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[S2/E3] On Location at Smog City Brewing Co. Jan 19, 2015

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Season 2, Episode 3 - Four Brewers is on the road! Our first stop in this three episode series devoted to Los Angeles beer is Smog City Brewing Co., in Torrance, California.

This week, we’re trying our hand at remote shows, and exploring the LA beer scene. The first stop on the tour is at Smog City Brewing Co., located in Torrance, California. Jonathan Porter and Chris Walowski sat down with us three hours before the release of their bourbon barrel-aged imperial stout named Infinite Wishes, to talk about the brewery and share some tasty brews and interesting stories.

Sabre-Toothed Squirrel Labels

The first beer, which was served up at a bright and early nine o’clock in the morning, was their “hoppy amber” ale named Sabre-Toothed Squirrel. This beer is made with Falconer’s Flight hops, and could almost be described as “Arrogant Bastard light” in terms of the way the hops and amber malt qualities interact with each another. This sabre-toothed squirrel definitely has some bite… (See what I did there?)

Next up is Smog City’s outstanding imperial stout called The Nothing. This beer was originally brewed by Porter at his former brewing home, Tustin Brewing Company, as Double Chocolate Imperial Stout. Coming in at 10% ABV, it contains two types of TCHO cocoa nibs and two types of chocolate malt, and is meant to have a mouthfeel similar to that of a chocolate milk shake. It’s also made with malted oats, which of course, gives John a beer boner.

Infinite Wishes

Infinite Wishes is the next beer on deck. It’s the bourbon barrel-aged version of The Nothing, and is in the neighborhood of 12% ABV. It was aged in bourbon barrels for precisely 364 days, and it is truly spectacular. It’s quite smooth and hides its alcohol quite well. The barrel character really shines and isn’t too overwhelming or woody. Fans of Smog City were lined up outside of the brewery when we finished recording this episode at 10:00 am, and it sold out in a matter of hours. Here’s to hoping the’ll make this beer again next year…

We wrap up the show with a nice, palate cleansing Smog City saison named Saison Contraire. This beer was fermented with Smog City’s house brettanomyces yeast, and then refermanted with two other types of brett yeast. It’s then dry-hoppped and packaged with another dose of brettanomyces to condition the beer in the bottle. That’s a lot of brett, yo. Needless to say, it’s pretty friggin’ great.

Smog City Brewing Co. have been at their current location since 2013, but were brewing beers at Tustin Brewing Company under the name Smog City since 2011. They’ve come a long way in the last four years, and we can’t wait to see what 2015 has in store for them. Big, big thanks to the staff at Smog City for having us, and hosting our debut on-location show!

Thanks, Smog City!

Side note: About halfway through the episode, there is a faint, consistent white noise that can be heard in the background. That was the sound of their CO2 tank being refilled by an outside vendor. Hey, we were in a brewery. It happens.

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Links to things from this week’s episode:S2/E3 Show Outline Smog City’s Taxidermy Squirrel TCHO

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[S2/E2] Miracle Berry Flavor Trippin' Jan 12, 2015

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Season 2, Episode 2 - This week, we’re altering our palates and sacrificing some great beers in the process, all in the name of fun!

This week, we’re altering our palates, be it for good or bad, to experience what’s like to taste different styles of beer after eating “Miracle Berries”. Miracle Berries are known for their ability to basically make things that are bitter taste sweet, and things that are sour to tastes even sweeter than if it were bitter. They come from West Africa, and Jason and Greggot some as part of Cards Against Humanity’s “12 Days of Holiday Bullshit” promotion.

Flavor Trippin’… (Blood Orange Gose not pictured)

Without giving too much away in the blog post, the results were quite interesting. Johnwas not a fan of this little experiment going into it, simply because he thought it was a waste of time and (great) beer. But we all know that John can be a bit of a party-pooper at times…

Miracle Berry Pamphlet from CAH

We try a variety of different beers from sour, to bitter, to big and rich. Here’s a list of the beers that we’re tasted with the Miracle Berries:

– Brouwerij Rodenbach -

Rodenbach

– The Bruery –

Tart of Darkness

– Anderson Valley Brewing Company –

Blood Orange Gose

– Stone Brewing Co. –

Ruination Double IPA

– The Bruery –

Grey Monday

Being that this was the third show of session 11’s recording session, the usual “third show syndrome” antics kick in, and fun is had by all…except John, of course.

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Links to things from this week’s episode:CAH 12 Days of Bullshit S2/E2 Show Outline

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[S2/E1] The Homebrew Blowout Jan 05, 2015

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Season 2, Episode 1 - Happy New Year! This week, we’re kicking off Season 2 of the podcast with a whopper of a show, mostly dedicated to homebrew, and Daniel Cady joins us for another go-around.

We kick off the show with another Saison collaboration brew from John and Matt named Raincross Saison. Everyone enjoys it, more or less, but there isn’t much enthusiasm, and we do our best to completely pick it apart. John talks about his plan to condition it with the East Coast Yeast ECY34 brettanomyces blend, so we’ll surely revisit it in the future.

Nagelbrew!

Next up, we have a tasty stovetop home brewed roggenbier named Rye Oh My! from Señor Nagel. Brewed as a quick, kitchen-sink beer for his holiday guests, everyone on the show enjoyed its easy drinking and bready yeast complexities. Greg also brought along a hoppy (reddish) IPA homebrew named Burning Ugly Christmas Sweaters that was…a bit…off…um… Finally from Greg, we revisit his Rye Saison that he fermented with the White Labs American Farmhouse Blend. We all enjoy it, but agree the brett needs more development time.

Finally, we finish off with an epic Going In Blind session. The beers for this long, awesome session were all supplied by good friends of Greg’s, Kristina and Steve Allison (Kristina is also a Patreon 4B patron–thanks!) We have some killer beers, and some not so killer beers, but good, sloppy times are had by all.

We’ve had a great response to our Patreon campaign thus far, and we’re totally stoked to have NINE Patrons supporting the show! We can’t thank them enough for the support and are humbled by their generosity. If you feel you’re getting any sort of value/entertainment/knowledge from 4B, please consider supporting the show on Patreon: http://patreon.com/fourbrewers

Links to things from this week’s episode:Recipe for John and Matt’s Saison, v2 S2/E1 Show Outline

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Episode 31 - Twisted Manzanita Ales & Spirits Dec 30, 2014

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Season 1, Episode 31 - This week, head brewer at Twisted Manzanita Ales & Spirits, Daniel Cady, joins us live in the studio.

Twisted Manzanita Ales & Spirits, formally known as Manzanita Brewing Company, has only been around for a few years but they’re making some spectacular brews. This week on the show their head brewery, Daniel Cady, joins us to share some of their best. First on deck is an India pale lager named Tinfoil Hat that they brewed in conjunction with San Diego Brewing Company. The unique thing about this IPL is the use of an Alt-Bier yeast, instead of standard Lager yeast. The yeast character really shines through, and the citrusy aspect of the hops really work well. This isn’t a grassy hop bomb, but its balance is quite refreshing.

Twisted Manzanita Ales & Spirits

Next up is Twisted Manzanita’s delicious chocolate mint stout named Enlightenmint. Clocking in around 8% ABV, and finishing it’s fermentation at around 7° Plato, this beer is like drinking chocolate ice cream. It’s really something great. Big body and minty aroma, followed by a thick, sweet chocolate backbone. This is definitely worth picking up if chocolate and mint is your jam.

This is where we get into the heavy hitters, as if 8% ABV wasn’t enough, and break out the sippers. First up is a brew from the original Manzanita Brewing Co branding, batch 1 of the Serenity barleywine, coming in at just around 3 years old, and aged in whiskey barrels. The beer is incredibly smooth and deceivingly easy to drink. The barrels shine through just like they should, and the body is just right. The beer is slightly oxidized, but it only enhances the character even more.

The next beer is pretty special. It’s an “iced” version of the Serenity barleywine, in that it was ice distilled. Daniel gets into the logistics of how this was done on the show. This beer was not available to the public, but since we happen to know the brewer, we get to try it. Lucky us, right?! In short, this beer is boozy, but still fairly well balanced.

The final beer is a sour that was blended just for the show and it’s named after a part number in the McMaster Carr catalogue…really, it is, and Daniel gets into why that is. Pretty rad, indeed. Daniel talks about the sour mashing that went into making this beer, and the many strains of brettanomyces from Europe that he got to experiment with in order to get the final product.

Big, big thanks to Daniel and the folks at Twisted Manzanita for the insight and fantastic brews. Twisted Manzanita has a big future if they keep up the quality of the beers they’re brewing, and we couldn’t be more stoked on what’s to come from them.

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Episode 30 - Merry Ducking Christmas Dec 22, 2014

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Season 1, Episode 30 - Happy holidays, everyone! This week, it’s all about the holiday brews.

Damn, these last few months have gone by fast! It’s already that magical time of year when you stress out over the perfect gifts to give your friends and family, freak out at your Uncle’s twisted viewpoints on the latest controversial news topics, watch grandpa fall asleep at 4:30pm, and crack open your favorite holiday brews. This week, John Ryti and Tim “Showtime” Ryan join us for the last time in 2014, and we’re opening some…wait for it…holiday brews!

Ken Schmidt / Iron Fist Brewing Company Collaboration

We kick the show off with a beer that’s not necessarily a holiday beer, but was brewed by a local beer celebrity of sorts, who is actually quite jolly. We’re talking about none other than San Diego, California’s own Ken Schmidt. He got together with Iron Fist Brewing Company out of Vista, California, and made a chocolate mint stout, appropriately named Chocolate Mint Stout, that’s quite fitting for the season. Ken’s a great guy, and you can’t miss him in public–he’s always sporting his short pants, a Hawaiian shirt, and a big smile.

Next up is a pretty rad tasting of some vintage Our Special Ale from Anchor Brewing Company, specifically the years 1995, 1996, and 2005. Jason picked these up at Stuffed Sandwich a while back, and he graciously donated them to the show.

Anchor Brewing Company – Our Special Ale

Our Special Ale is a beer that changes slightly from year to year. The recipe tends to be a little different, but is always reminiscent of the previous years it’s been brewed.

The final two beers on the show are from some local SoCal breweries. First up is Noble Ale Works‘ You’ll Shoot Your Eye Out, Kid! which is a winter warmer made with organic apple cider. Beer nerds tend to have mixed feeling when is comes to apples in beer, generally because “apple flavor” is usually considered to be an off-flavor, but that’s not always the case.

Noble Ale Works and Karl Strauss Brewing Company

The final beer is from Karl Strauss Brewing Company, Five Wee Heavy Bells. Karl Strauss has been following the 12 Days of Christmas theme, and this is the fifth release in the series. Karl’s holiday beers are usually some of their best yearly releases, and this brew is no exception.

The show tends to dip in and out of the good ol’ “third show syndrome”, but we hold it together and don’t embarrass ourselves too much. I guess one could say that we’re like those dudes at a holiday party that are having a bit more fun than everyone else. Le sigh…

Oh yeah…If you’re feeling the holiday spirit and would like to show your love for the show, please considering become a Patron at our Patreon page. XOXOXO

So, yeah. Happy holidays from 4B and BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT!

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Episode 29 - Blood Oranges and Barrels Dec 15, 2014

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Season 1, Episode 29 - This week on the show, we are again joined by John Ryti and Tim “Showtime” Ryan, and this time, Ryti brought along some homebrew.

We kick off the show this week with a fantastic brew from the folks at Refuge Brewery in Temecula, California. Blood Orange Wit is a tangy and big-bodied, low ABV pale ale. This beer isn’t just another fly-by-night wheat ale—this thing is delicious! This is Refuge’s first offering in a can, and it’s totally worth checking out.

Refuge Brewery – Blood Orange Wit

Next up on the show are a few brews from Ryti. First up is, well, we don’t know. Neither does Ryti. He found this keg of brew hiding in a cold-box and forgot to label what it was.

The second beer up is a stout that Ryti made as part of a group brew. This beer went into ~50 gallon port wine barrel that was about 75 years old. Pretty cool, right?

Ryti’s final beer is a clone of Stone Brewing Co.’s Vertical Epic Ale 09.09.09. Ryti made this brew a few years go. The cool thing about the Vertical Epic series is that Stone provides the recipes for each beer so homebrewers can whip up a batch themselves. We tried Ryti’s version along side an actually bottle of the beer, which at this point in on its way downhill, so drink up if you still have any. Ryti’s version of the brew turned out quite well. 09.09.09 was one of the best of the Vertical Epic series in our opinions. If you never got a chance to try it, check out the recipe and brew it up!

We end the show with the Aventinus Eisbock from Weisses Bräuhaus G. Schneider & Sohn. On a previous show, we mentioned that this style of beer wasn’t very widely brewed and was somewhat difficult to attain. Well, Jason found the mother load at a local Total Wine.

If you missed the announcement last week: We’ve started a Patreon campaign! If you don’t know what Patreon is, it’s a crowdfunding service similar to Kickstarter, except it’s meant to allow donors, or “patrons” as they call them, the opportunity to give continued support for artists through monetary donations. In our case, we are accepting donations on a per-episode basis. You can contribute any amount you wish, per episode, be it a quarter or ten bucks (holy shit!).

Take the time to check it out. We ultimately want to offer more content to our fans, i.e. supplemental video content of our personal brew days and homebrewing techniques, visiting breweries, going to more festivals, etc., and we can only do that with your help. If you feel you get any value from the show, please consider throwing some duckets our way. We’re off to a great start, and couldn’t be happier about the generosity of our fans and friends thus far. THANK YOU!

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Links to things from episode 29:Recipe for Stone Brewing Co. Vertical Epic Ale 09.09.09 Stone’s Vertical Epic Series

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Episode 28 - Four Duders on Foudres! Dec 09, 2014

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Season 1, Episode 28 - This week, some totally rad brews from our friend Philip Lorenzini, special guests John Ryti and Time Ryan, and Foudre, duders!

Long time friend of New Brew Thursday and Four Brewers, Philip Lorenzini, hooked us up with some really great beers, and we invited some friends to spread the beer love, John Ryti, aka Temecula’s Beer Ambassador, and Tim Ryan, aka “Showtime”.

We start with a beer that we meant to get to last month on the show, Cascade Brewing Company‘s Foudre #1. This beer is a blend of three soured triple ales and was released in celebration of Cascade’s newly acquired foudre. If you’re not sure what a foudre is, it’s essential a very large wooden barrel, or cask. This photo was taken at Crooked Stave a few years ago and shows a style of foudre.

Cascade, Perennial, and Three Taverns Beers.

Needless to say, Foudre #1 is pretty great. Cascade used to be a somewhat rare treat for us in these parts, since they are located in Portland, Oregon, but their distribution to SoCal has picked up, and now we can very easily and joyfully give them all of our beer monies.

Next up are two beers from Perennial Artisan Ales, one of which was provided by Philip Lorenzini, and the other acquired by our very own Matt Becker. Fist up is Saison de Lis, which is a Belgian style ale made with chamomile flowers. The chamomile works very well in this brew, and the beer itself stands out as very unique. Hints of cinnamon spice crept their way into the beer, too. It’s really interesting and totally worth trying if the opportunity ever presents itself to you.

Stefon is next up. This was a collaboration beer between Perennial and Solemn Oath Brewery. It’s a dark rye farmhouse ale that was conditioned with brettanomyces. The brett isn’t very dominant in this beer, which is neither a good nor bad quality, and the beer overall is very well balanced and flavorful.

Last up from Philip is Theophan The Recluse from Three Taverns Craft Beers. This beer is an Imperial Russian Stout that has flavors of raisins, bread and chocolate. This brewery is new to us, and this first offering was really solid.

BIG, BIG thanks to Philip for sending these beers. He’s and awesome guy and a loyal fan. Cheers, dude!

Onto something that we’re really excited about: We’ve started a Patreon campaign! If you don’t know what Patreon is, it’s a crowdfunding service similar to Kickstarter, except it’s meant to allow donors, or “patrons” as they call them, the opportunity to give continued support for artists through monetary donations. In our case, we are accepting donations on a per-episode basis. You can contribute any amount you wish, per episode, be it a quarter or ten bucks (holy shit!).

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This week’s episode is sponsored by the OC Brew HoHo Holiday Ale Festival, which is Saturday, December 13th at the Phoenix Club in Anaheim, California. There will be a plethora of great brews on tap, and a butt-load of tasty food trucks. Check out the tap list, and head over to OCBrewHoHo.com for tickets. It WILL sell out, so snatch ‘em up while you can!

Links to things from episode 28:Jesse Friedman’s Podcast, Brewer’s Log

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Episode 27 - John and Matt's Homebrew Saison Dec 01, 2014

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Season 1, Episode 27 - John and Matt brewed a special grisette-style saison, David Gillanders is back on the show, and we’re drinking a DIPA from Barley Forge Brewing Co..

John and Matt finally did some goddamn brewing, and they made a pretty great brew! Matt got his hands on a “special” strain of yeast (he really didn’t give us any details other than that) and called upon John and his pimp-ass brewing setup to make ten gallons of a grisette-style saison, aptly named Grisette Beta. To date, this is probably one of the best brews that has come from said brewhouse.

John’s Brewhouse

It was originally intended to be a 4.0% ABV beer, but due to some miscalculations while mashing, the original gravity came out a little higher than it should have, thus raising the final amount of alcohol in the beer. This beer was very much an experiment for Matt. He was looking to have a solid session-able saison that he could brew the shit out of, and outside of a few tweaks that need to be made, this beer is pretty much what he wanted.

Feature: “Going In Blind.”

Sara joins us yet again for another round of Going In Blind. The beers this week were themed around witbier, and consequently, the tasting was a bit lackluster. But, yeah…listen to it anyway! Not to give anything away, but we may be experiencing some third-show-syndrome antics…

Barley Forge Brewing Co.

Keeping in line with said antics, we wrap this episode up with an excellent double IPA from a brand new brewery from Costa Mesa, California, Barley Forge Brewing Co.. Their beer, named One Louder is DANK! Like, WOW, in a totally good way. It’s a Hop Head’s dream. Yum. Barley Forge opened about three weeks ago and so far, we’re very impressed with their beer offerings. Barley Forge is definitely worth hitting up the next time you’re in the OC. Greg did a nice write up on the brewery back in July while it was still under construction.

Links to things from episode 27:Grisette Beta Recipe

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Episode 26 - The Festival Nov 24, 2014

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Season 1, Episode 26 - David Gillanders is back on the show this week, and we’re drinking beers from Sante Adairius, Jester King, and Fantôme.

This week on the show, we try to recreate the magic that is The Festival – brought to you by the Shelton Brothers. Not only do they import some amazing beers from overseas, but they distribute some of the coolest craft breweries in the US. We weren’t able to recreate the bottle list of one of the craziest festivals we’ve ever seen, but damn it did we ever try! Just for good measure, we invited our buddy David along as a thanks for all the Citra.

We start out with Witchmaker from Jester King, a rye farmhouse IPA. This beer is a classic farmhouse beer, despite the creepy sparkle eyes on the label that stare right into your soul.

Jester King / Fantôme Collaboration Beer.

This was just a warm up for the main event – a collaboration between Fantôme and Jester King. It took two continents to get this bad boy into our hands, it’s the Del Rey – but as it turns out, NOT a summertime sadness beer! Will these two great tastes go great together? How could they not, right?

Bringing it back to our home state of California, we opened up a bottle of Cask Strawberry from Sante Adairius Rustic Ales in Carpenteria, CA. It was muled back from the brewery by our very own Jason Harris, and the gang had very differing opinions on this saught after beer. (Spoiler: half of them are DEAD WRONG -Jason)

Lastly, we managed to score a bottle of the BlizzCon Exclusive beer, ThunderBrew, which was called an “Imperial Brown”. We had our suspicions about it’s true origins, however. You can’t pull the wool over the Four Brewers’ eyes, there are too freaking many of us!

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Episode 25 - Knee Deep in Citra Nov 17, 2014

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Season 1, Episode 25 - Put on your fishing waders because this week, we’re knee deep in brews from Kern River Brewing Co., Knee Deep Brewing Co., and Spiteful Brewing Company.

Devout craft beer drinkers far and wide make the pilgrimage to central California for the periodic release of Kern River Brewing Company‘s hoppy masterpiece known as Citra double IPA. We just happen to be friends with someone who won the Citra lottery (really, the brewery holds a lottery to buy the beer) and that someone is Mr. David Gillanders, who coincidentally is this week’s guest.

David was gracious enough to bring over a couple bottles to share with us, as well as some other beers he picked up during a recent trip he took to Chicago.

Kern River Brewing Company – Citra

Citra is an amazing beer. The beer won gold at GABF in 2011, and it absolutely deserved it. While all of us on the show are big hop heads, Nagel isn’t too fond of the Citra hop, due to its “cat piss and orange” smell (he meant that in a negative way, too). Hey, sounds good to us!

Big, big aromatics on this beer, and yes, cat piss and orange are two of the dominant aromas present in the beer. Luckily, these bottles are super-fresh, so all of the aromatics and flavors just pop. It’s awesome.

Knee Deep/Kern River Collaboration – Deep River

Next is a collaboration beer between Knee Deep Brewing Co. and Kern River Brewing Co. called, Deep River Double IPA. One of Jason’s good friends picked up this bottle for him. Knee Deep is another brewery known for its intensely hoppy brews, so this beer fit right in with the Citra. Not a lot of details were given about the beer, so yeah…just know that it’s hoppy and delicious.

Spiteful Brewing Company – God Damn Pigeon Porter

The final beer is another beer from David that he picked up while in Chicago, Spiteful Brewing Company‘s God Damn Pigeon Porter. Hey, how’d that name get past Battle‘s desk?!

This beer is brewed to taste and smell like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, and it really does taste like a PB&J! It’s pretty incredible. David claims to have never had a PB&J sandwich (dude’s been known to be a bit of a fibber in the past). If you’ve also never had PB&J, this beer pretty much hits the nail on the head. Even the saltiness of the peanut butter is present in the beer. Weird!

Big thanks to David for the brews. He’s the fucking man!

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