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    Florida’s Fourth Estate

    Florida’s Fourth Estate looks at everything from swampy politics to a fragile environment and even the crazy headlines that make Florida the craziest state in the Union. Ginger Gadsden and Matt Austin use decades of experience as journalists to dissect the headlines that impact Florida. Each week they have a guest host who helps give an irreverent look at the issues impacting the Sunshine State. Big influencers like Attorney John Morgan, renowned Florida journalists and the scientists protecting Florida’s ecosystem can often be found as guests. Look for new episodes every week, and visit ClickOrlando.com for the latest WKMG News 6 coverage of Orlando and beyond.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Florida teacher wins Netflix survival show May 15, 2023
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    Nick Radner went from teaching at a Pinellas County high school to competing on the Netflix show “Outlast.”

    He was also the wrestling coach and said he was used to cutting weight but didn’t expect to lose a whopping 48 pounds during taping.

    Radner joined Matt Austin and Ginger Gadsden on Florida’s Fourth Estate to talk more about his experience on the reality show.

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    DeSantis’ feud with Disney could go to US Supreme Court. A political expert explains why May 12, 2023
    Show notes

    The battle between Governor Ron Desantis and The Walt Disney Company continues to heat up.

    University of Central Florida History Professor and News 6 Political Analyst Dr. Jim Clark said it may not end until it gets to the Supreme Court.

    Clark recently joined Matt Austin and Ginger Gadsden on Florida’s Fourth Estate to talk about the governor’s ongoing battle to strip Disney of some of its self-governing abilities.

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    Florida’s top 5 roadside attractions May 08, 2023
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    As you plan your summer vacation Florida’s Fourth Estate is helping you go beyond the theme parks and beaches.

    Hosts Matt Austin and Ginger Gadsden are breaking down their top five roadside attractions in the sunshine state.

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    Florida student considering AI career after Twitter suspension for tracking Elon Musk May 05, 2023
    Show notes

    University of Central Florida student Jack Sweeney recently sat down for an interview with Florida’s Fourth Estate hosts Matt Austin and Ginger Gadsden.

    He said he didn’t mean to start a battle with one of the most powerful men in tech, but that’s exactly where he has found himself.

    Sweeney said it all started when he was just a child. His dad worked in the airline industry, so he would track planes to make sure his dad would be home on time.

    “And then I had an interest in Elon Musk, and where he was, what he was doing. And then I figured that he had a private jet. And that I could track it myself. But nobody was really doing it. So I started doing it during my free time during COVID,” he said.

    But when Sweeney posted that info to Twitter he said Musk didn’t like it.

    “So he hit me up in the Twitter DMs and it was like 1 a.m. here in Florida time,” he said. “He’s like, ‘Hey, can you take this down?’ And then he was asking how it worked. He didn’t have really any idea of how it worked. And I was like, ‘You know, I’ve put a lot of work into this (to) just take it down.’ You know, I didn’t really want to.”

    Sweeney said the conversation continued for about a month, with the two exchanging a couple of messages a week.

    Eventually, Sweeney said Musk offered him $5,000, but, he turned that down and asked for more. The two were not able to come to an agreement and after Elon Musk bought Twitter the tech company suspended Sweeney’s account.

    Sweeney still has a tracking account on Facebook and other platforms.

    Despite all of the controversy surrounding his introduction to the tech industry, Sweeney said he would like to continue working in the industry professionally.

    “I think in the future I might want to do (something) with AI and GPT, stuff like that, it’s very interesting,” Sweeney said.

    Software programming is also on his radar as are planes.

    “I’m still interested in doing something with aviation and aircraft,” the UCF student said.

    To learn more about Sweeney’s plans for the future, how the University of Central Florida is responding to him making national headlines and more, check out Florida’s Fourth Estate.

    You can download the podcast from wherever you listen to podcasts or watch it anytime on News 6+.

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    Florida company offers new affordable approach to road trips May 02, 2023
    Show notes

    There is a new affordable approach to taking a vacation in Florida and it allows you to bring the comforts of home with you.

    The owners of Florida Van Life renovate vans and turn them into a vacation on wheels.

    Lebelo Mosehle said he and Estelle Bain wanted to make travel more affordable. Instead of buying a brand-new RV which could cost you hundreds of thousands of dollars, Moshele told Florida’s Fourth Estate hosts Matt Austin and Ginger Gadsden the most they have ever charged for one of their renovated vans is $45,000. Others have gone for under $25,000.

    “The way we determine our price is by how much you put in, the time it takes us, and also the year of the vehicle, but mostly a lot of people who buy our vans they’re hippies so they don’t really care about ‘Oh, yeah, I want it to be so perfect, like 2023 whatever.’ As long as it is a van it’s got that retro look, and it feels like you’re back in like the 70s. That’s what our people are going for,” Moshele said.

    While Mosehle focuses on sales, Bain focuses on design.

    She said she incorporates the things that she likes into each of her custom creations. One of her vehicles is a redesigned U-Haul truck. Bain took Austin and Gadsden inside to show off the skylight she created. She said it really allows you to feel like “you’re sleeping underneath the trees, but you’re still protected.”

    She said, as a single woman, she was always concerned about safety and has designed her vehicles with that in mind.

    Bain admits some of the re-imagined vans can get warm in the summer, but said a fan can help with that and that it is still much more comfortable than a tent.

    It also includes a cooktop, bed, shower and toilet.

    To learn more about Mosehle and Bain and their business check out Florida’s Fourth Estate. You can download it from wherever you listen to podcasts or watch it anytime on News 6+.

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    Former Tampa Bay Bucs quarterback Doug Williams discusses what’s next for league Apr 28, 2023
    Show notes

    Doug Williams says the tide is turning in the NFL.

    “I feel like in the next five to 10 years, we’re gonna have over half of the quarterbacks in the league playing football as a Black quarterback, and it’s not about the color of their skin. It’s about what they can do and how well they can play,” he said.

    Williams was the first Black quarterback to play in and win a Super Bowl in 1988.

    But with the way the NFL draft is going and as more coaches give Black quarterbacks a chance, Williams said Florida’s Fourth Estate hosts Matt Austin and Ginger Gadsden he expects a majority of the quarterbacks in the league to be Black in the coming years.

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    What does it mean when I fall in my dreams? Apr 24, 2023
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    Most of us have been there: You have a dream and you wake up struck by how real it felt. But why did you have that dream?

    An Orlando-based mental health counselor says he is helping people figure it out all, while at the same time improving their mental and physical health.

    Jesse Lyon describes himself as a Clinical Hypnotherapist and Dream Interpreter who helps people work through the trauma they face in their day-to-day life by analyzing the dreams they have at night.

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    Surfing Dogs: How to tell if your pup is ready to catch a wave Apr 17, 2023
    Show notes

    Usually, when you think of surfing, you don’t think of dogs.

    Well, that’s about to change. Flagler Beach is preparing to welcome back the Hang 8 Dog Surfing event.

    The city’s mayor said it all “came about because of Wednesday,” her 8-pound chihuahua.

    Mayor Suzie Johnston told Florida’s Fourth Estate hosts Matt Austin and Ginger Gadsden her pup has no fear of the water.

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    Art scandal hits Orlando museum Apr 14, 2023
    Show notes

    Matt Austin and Ginger Gadsden share their thoughts on recent headlines, including a scandal at the Orlando Museum of Art, where works were falsely attributed to artist Jean-Michel Basquiat.

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    ‘It’s terrifying:’ TV News Engineer talks about repairs at 1,300 feet Apr 10, 2023
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    For many people going to work means driving to the office and logging into their computer, but for News 6 Maintenance Supervisor Ben Vaughn the day starts 1,300 feet up in the air.

    Vaughn has worked as an engineer at News 6 in Orlando since 2018.

    When he first accepted the gig, he said he didn’t know it would involve going hundreds of feet up into the air to make repairs to a TV news tower.

    Vaughn spoke with Florida’s Fourth Estate hosts Matt Austin and Ginger Gadsden about how he came to News 6.

    “I was in video post-production in New York for 20 years. When I took this job, I was like, ‘Oh, I can work on machines and computers,’” he said.

    Not long after he was hired, he said there was an issue at the tower. He said he was nervous the first time he had to make a repair so high above the ground.

    “I actually never stood up the entire time I was up there. I was on my hands and knees. Absolutely terrified,” Vaughn said.

    Over time, despite the swaying, clanking and vibrating, Vaugh said he has gotten a lot more comfortable working on a 1,300-foot-high platform, but he knows he has to be careful.

    When he does go up, he said he always has a partner with him.

    “If one person gets incapacitated, you can’t call Orange County Fire Rescue, they can’t get you. So, one guy has to be able to get the other person off the tower, get them into the elevator,” he said.

    But, when you think of an elevator, it’s not one of those fancy ones you see in a hotel. It looks more like a small metal cage and when two men are riding in it together for 26 minutes up and 26 minutes down, things can get tight.

    Vaughn said he often rides “belly to belly” and that “Larry and I have spent a lot of close time together.”

    Most recently the duo went up the tower to fix an antenna that allows viewers at home to see the signal from the Sky 6 helicopter live. Vaughn said he and the engineering department go up twice a year just to repair, replace or inspect those antennas.

    When they go up Vaughn said, it’s important to make sure you don’t go up too high.

    “You’d die... you’re talking about an enormous amount of RF energy. I mean, we oftentimes, around the base of the tower, you’ll see dead birds and whatnot. I mean, it’s like being in a microwave,” he said. “If you were to go any higher than, say 1,500 feet, then you would have to wear an RF alarm, similar to a radiation alarm.”

    As with everything else in Florida, Vaughn said weather also plays a factor in when engineers can go up the tower to make repairs.

    “In Florida, you’re off that tower by one o’clock. If it’s done or not, you’re off,” he said.

    The reason? The high risk of lightning strikes.

    When you are trying to get down, if for some reason, the elevator doesn’t work, Vaugh said, that’s where your safety harness comes into play.

    “There’s a ladder” and you would have to lock and unlock your harness the whole way down.

    “You better have nice boots on. Otherwise, the insides of your feet are going to be destroyed,” he said.

    Despite the inherent risk involved, Vaughn said he and the whole engineering team at News 6 is committed to doing whatever it takes,

    “We all have a common goal, and that goal is to make sure that the station stays on the air,” Vaughn said.

    To learn more, check out Florida’s Fourth Estate. You can download it from wherever you listen to podcasts or watch it anytime on News 6+.

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