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    Fixing Healthcare Podcast

    “A podcast with a plan to fix healthcare” featuring Dr. Robert Pearl, Jeremy Corr and Guests

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    MTT #92: The worst flu season in 15 years, a measles resurgence & Medicaid cuts Mar 12, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode of Medicine: The Truth, co-hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr dive into the latest developments in American healthcare, from a severe flu outbreak to deep Medicaid cuts that could change health coverage as we know it.

    This year’s influenza season is the worst in 15 years, leading to more flu hospitalizations and deaths than COVID-19 for the first time since the pandemic began. Meanwhile, a measles outbreak in Texas is raising alarms, fueled by low vaccination rates and a surprising response from the new Health and Human Services Secretary, RFK Jr. On the policy front, federal funding cuts to Medicaid and the NIH are already affecting hospitals, academic research and public health agencies.

    Here’s a snapshot of just some of the major topics covered in this episode:

    • Flu cases surging as hospitalizations now outpace COVID.
    • A measles outbreak in Texas affecting unvaccinated children.
    • Massive Medicaid cuts to the tune of $880 billion.
    • NIH funding slashed with research centers feeling the squeeze.
    • FDA staff cuts are slowing drug approvals.
    • CDC is struggling to track new infectious disease threats amid cuts.
    • Congress debating whether AI should write prescriptions.
    • GLP-1 drugs may curb drinking, too.
    • Kids’ test scores are still down from the pandemic.

    Tune in as Dr. Pearl and Jeremy Corr break down these pressing healthcare topics and explore what they mean for the future of American medicine.

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    Dr. Robert Pearl is the author of the new book “ChatGPT, MD: How AI-Empowered Patients & Doctors Can Take Back Control of American Medicine” about the impact of AI on the future of medicine. All profits from the book go to Doctors Without Borders.

    Fixing Healthcare is a co-production of Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr. Subscribe to the show via Apple, Spotify, Stitcher or wherever you find podcasts. Join the conversation or suggest a guest by following the show on Twitter and LinkedIn

    The post MTT #92: The worst flu season in 15 years, a measles resurgence & Medicaid cuts appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.


    FHC #167: How Microsoft’s AI solutions got a doctor home in time for dinner Mar 05, 2025
    Show notes

    In the latest episode of Fixing Healthcare, hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr welcome Joe Petro, Corporate Vice President of Microsoft Health & Life Sciences Solutions and Platforms.

    A mechanical engineer by training, Petro offers a refreshing and sometimes surprising take on AI’s role in healthcare. Despite being at the forefront of innovation in one of the world’s largest tech companies, he describes himself as an “incredible technology skeptic.” He explains that skepticism is precisely what’s needed to ensure AI improves, rather than disrupts, the physician-patient relationship.

    This conversation is part of Fixing Healthcare’s Season 10, which explores how technology—particularly AI—can reshape American medicine. Petro highlights three major shifts that will define the coming decade:

    1. AI as the new co-pilot for doctors

    Petro sees a future where AI functions as a real-time assistant to physicians, handling administrative burdens, generating clinical insights and optimizing workflows. He envisions AI acting like an augmented intelligence tool, offering guidance at the point of care rather than replacing human decision-making.

    By reducing time spent on documentation and bureaucracy, AI lets clinicians focus more on patient interactions, improving both efficiency and quality of care. A prime example? Petro recounts how an AI-powered solution helped a hospital’s chief medical officer get home in time for dinner for the first time in 25 years.

    Petro likens this transformation to the “Bridge” from Star Trek—a place where AI, data, and human expertise come together seamlessly. Just as Captain Kirk relied on real-time insights from the ship’s computer, doctors will soon have an intelligent, AI-powered assistant guiding their decision-making and simplifying their workflow.

    2. The EHR is here to stay—but AI will completely change how we use it

    For years, physicians have bemoaned electronic health records (EHRs), blaming them for burnout and inefficiency. Petro doesn’t believe they’re going away. Instead, AI will radically improve them.

    Instead of static systems that require excessive manual input, AI-driven EHRs will automate documentation, surface relevant clinical insights and anticipate physician needs without ever typing a note. In fact, Petro describes a future where doctors never have to stare at a screen during a patient visit again. Instead, AI will listen in the background, generate documentation in real-time and provide decision support without disrupting the human connection between doctor and patient. This transformation, he argues, will reduce burnout, improve efficiency and ultimately lead to better care.

    3. AI will shift healthcare from treatment to prevention

    A central theme of the discussion is how AI can help shift medicine’s focus from reactive treatment to proactive disease prevention. Petro describes a future where AI-powered virtual assistants track patient health data, predict complications and intervene early. All this will empower patients to manage chronic conditions more effectively.

    He acknowledges regulatory and liability concerns but insists that the inevitability of AI-driven self-diagnosis will force the industry to adapt. He predicts AI-powered tools will soon deliver tailored medical insights, helping patients make informed decisions without waiting for in-person doctor visits.

    Humanity, skepticism remain important

    Beyond these predictions, Petro doesn’t shy away from skepticism. He warns against blind faith in technology, stressing that successful implementation requires trust, rigorous testing and physician buy-in.

    His passion for these topics are deeply personal. Petro shares a moving story about his mother, who struggled with health issues later in life. He emphasizes how empathetic, attentive care made all the difference for her—and how AI should be used to enable more of these meaningful interactions, not replace them.

    Ultimately, Petro’s vision is both optimistic and cautionary. He sees AI as a tool to enhance, not replace, human decision-making in medicine. With healthcare systems struggling under the weight of administrative burdens, staffing shortages and rising costs, he believes AI represents an opportunity to ease these pressures while improving patient outcomes.

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    Fixing Healthcare is a co-production of Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr. Subscribe to the show via Apple, Spotify, Stitcher or wherever you find podcasts. Join the conversation or suggest a guest by following the show on Twitter and LinkedIn.

    The post FHC #167: How Microsoft’s AI solutions got a doctor home in time for dinner appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.


    FHC #166: Musk’s DOGE vs. healthcare + UnitedHealth’s defining moment Feb 26, 2025
    Show notes

    In this month’s Diving Deep episode, part of the Fixing Healthcare podcast series, Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr examine three pressing topics shaping the future of American medicine: the Musk-led effort to slash government spending (including healthcare programs), the neuroscience behind irrational decision-making and the defining moment facing UnitedHealth Group in the wake of its CEO’s tragic death.

    We begin the episode with Donald Trump’s second term and the launch of DOGE (the Department of Government Efficiency), led by Elon Musk. The duo share a vision of cutting billions, perhaps trillions, of dollars in “fraud and waste” from the federal budget. But with Social Security, Medicare, and defense deemed untouchable, Pearl explains why the focus will inevitably turn to Medicaid and online health insurance exchanges—programs that provide healthcare access to low-income Americans. He then breaks down the consequences, which include millions of Americans losing health coverage and, therefore, access to vital medical services.

    Shifting gears, the hosts explore a fascinating cognitive phenomenon called “brainshift,” a subconscious process in which perception becomes altered when people are faced with situations that involve significant fear or reward. Drawing on research he conducted with neurologist Dr. George York, Pearl explains how brainshift can make irrational choices feel rational. To illustrate this phenomenon in medicine, Pearl points to various examples of brainshift and, ultimately, touches on ways to overcome its negative effects.

    Finally, the episode revisits the death of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson and the pivotal decisions now facing the company’s leadership. Pearl and Corr analyze UnitedHealth Group’s long-standing strategy of cost-cutting and claim denials, a model that has made it the largest insurer in the U.S. but also a target of public and congressional scrutiny. CEO Andrew Witty now has a chance to shift the company’s approach from restricting care to preventing illness. Pearl outlines three bold moves UnitedHealth could take.

    Click play to hear the full conversation and explore what it will take to transform healthcare for the better.

    HELPFUL LINKS

    • UnitedHealth Faces A Defining Moment After CEO’s Killing (Forbes)
    • The TikTok Reversal And The Science Of Illogical Medical Decisions (Forbes)
    • Musk’s DOGE Could Threaten The Health Of Millions Of Americans (Forbes)
    • Monthly Musings on American Healthcare (Robert Pearl’s newsletter)

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    Dr. Robert Pearl is the author of “ChatGPT, MD: How AI-Empowered Patients & Doctors Can Take Back Control of American Medicine.” All profits from the book go to Doctors Without Borders.

    Fixing Healthcare is a co-production of Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr. Subscribe to the show via Apple, Spotify or wherever you find podcasts. Join the conversation or suggest a guest by following the show on Twitter and LinkedIn.

    The post FHC #166: Musk’s DOGE vs. healthcare + UnitedHealth’s defining moment appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.


    FHC #165: Why doctors are doing side gigs Feb 19, 2025
    Show notes

    In this Unfiltered episode of Fixing Healthcare, co-hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr welcome back cardiologist and burnout expert Dr. Jonathan Fisher to explore a surprising and growing trend: the rise of physician side gigs.

    The discussion opens with eye-opening statistics: 40% of doctors now have a side gig, bringing in an average of $34,000 annually. This shift marks a stark departure from the past, when physicians expected to practice medicine full-time for decades.

    Drs. Pearl and Fisher debate the driving forces behind this change, from rising burnout and financial pressures to shifting generational attitudes about work and career fulfillment.

    The conversation also tackles broader questions about the evolving role of doctors in modern medicine. As AI reshapes healthcare and physicians increasingly work for large institutions rather than private practices, has medicine become less stimulating? Are doctors seeking side gigs as an outlet for creativity, financial stability or a deeper sense of purpose? And how can healthcare organizations adapt to retain and empower their workforce?

    Key topics discussed in this episode include:
    • The staggering rise in physician side gigs and what’s driving the trend
    • How burnout, job dissatisfaction and financial pressures factor in
    • The shift from independent practice to hospital employment
    • Medicine’s declining intellectual stimulation and the search for creative outlets
    • The role of AI in reshaping doctors’ work and financial futures
    • What healthcare leaders must do to engage and retain top medical talent

    For more raw, unfiltered commentary, listen to the full episode and check out these helpful links:

    ‘Just One Heart’ (Jonathan Fisher’s newest book)

    ‘ChatGPT, MD’ (Robert Pearl’s newest book)

    Monthly Musings on American Healthcare (Robert Pearl’s newsletter)

    * * *

    Fixing Healthcare is a co-production of Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr. Subscribe to the show via Apple Podcasts or wherever you find podcasts. Join the conversation or suggest a guest by following the show on Twitter and LinkedIn.

    The post FHC #165: Why doctors are doing side gigs appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.


    MTT #91: The future of AI in healthcare & the latest on vaccines, dementia, cancer Feb 12, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode of Medicine: The Truth, co-hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr discuss some of the most pressing issues in medicine today, from the latest breakthroughs in generative AI to concerning trends in breast cancer and dementia.

    A major shake-up in artificial intelligence is unfolding, with China’s DeepSeek releasing an open-source AI model that rivals industry leaders like ChatGPT and Gemini—at a fraction of the cost. Dr. Pearl explains how this could democratize AI in medicine, enabling more companies to develop specialized AI tools for chronic disease management, patient diagnosis and treatment recommendations. He predicts that within three to five years, AI-powered healthcare tools will be widely available, cutting costs while improving outcomes.

    Meanwhile, UnitedHealth Group’s latest earnings call sheds light on how the insurance giant plans to navigate growing public anger over healthcare costs. The company, which generated $400 billion in revenue and employs 90,000 doctors, is blaming high prices on hospitals and drugmakers. Dr. Pearl questions whether United will continue its current approach—restricting care through denials and prior authorizations—or if it will finally take the lead in reducing costs by investing in chronic disease prevention and patient health.

    Here’s a snapshot of just some of the other topics covered in this episode of Medicine: The Truth:

    • The latest on winter viruses, vaccine safety and the MMR controversy
    • The FDA’s plan to require clearer nutrition labels on food packaging
    • A concerning rise in aggressive breast cancer cases among younger women
    • Why dementia rates are expected to double over the next three decades
    • The FDA’s approval of a groundbreaking non-opioid pain medication
    • The Biden administration’s plan to negotiate drug prices, including Ozempic and Wegovy
    • The U.S. decision to withdraw from the World Health Organization and its potential consequences

    Tune in as Dr. Pearl and Jeremy Corr untangle these complex issues and explore what’s next for medicine in America.

    * * *

    Dr. Robert Pearl is the author of the new book “ChatGPT, MD: How AI-Empowered Patients & Doctors Can Take Back Control of American Medicine” about the impact of AI on the future of medicine. All profits from the book go to Doctors Without Borders.

    Fixing Healthcare is a co-production of Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr. Subscribe to the show via Apple, Spotify, Stitcher or wherever you find podcasts. Join the conversation or suggest a guest by following the show on Twitter and LinkedIn

    The post MTT #91: The future of AI in healthcare & the latest on vaccines, dementia, cancer appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.


    FHC #164: AI vs. healthcare’s staffing crisis with Hippocratic’s CEO Feb 05, 2025
    Show notes

    In the latest episode of Fixing Healthcare, hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr welcome Munjal Shah, co-founder and CEO of Hippocratic AI, to explore how generative AI can help address one of the biggest challenges in healthcare today: the growing shortage of clinical workers.

    Shah, a serial entrepreneur with a background in artificial intelligence, founded Hippocratic AI with an aim to build safe, scalable AI-powered healthcare agents that can assist with non-diagnostic patient care. In this interview, he shares his company’s progress in developing virtual solutions, lowering healthcare costs and expanding access to care.

    This discussion is part of Fixing Healthcare’s Season 10, which examines how technology is reshaping medicine. Shah highlights three key insights on how AI can support healthcare professionals and improve patient outcomes:

    1. AI-powered virtual Agents

    Shah describes how Hippocratic AI is developing virtual agents that call patients, provide education and support chronic disease management—all at a fraction of the cost of human outreach. Unlike AI models designed for diagnostics or clinical documentation, Hippocratic focuses exclusively on non-prescriptive, patient-facing tasks within the scope of registered agents.

    With AI-driven follow-ups, healthcare providers can now check in on all at-risk patients, not just the sickest 5-10%. Shah gives a powerful example of how missed blood pressure monitoring contributed to his mother’s heart failure—an outcome that AI-assisted outreach could have prevented.

    2. Reducing healthcare costs while scaling patient support

    One of the biggest challenges in healthcare today is the inability to scale preventive care and chronic disease management due to limited staffing. Shah reveals that Hippocratic’s AI-powered agents operate at a cost of just $9 per hour, which he says is a game-changer for health systems struggling with resource shortages.

    He envisions AI agents making millions of proactive calls, reminding patients to take their medications, checking for early signs of complications and preventing avoidable ER visits. The technology could also be used in disaster response—calling patients at risk during heat waves, hurricanes or blackouts to coordinate medical assistance.

    3. Safety, supervision & real-world testing with AI

    Despite AI’s promise, Shah acknowledges that safety and accuracy remain top priorities. He explains how Hippocratic rigorously tests its models, using real nurses to evaluate and refine AI performance before deployment.

    Unlike other AI tools that may hallucinate or provide misleading information, Hippocratic’s system is designed with 19 supervisory AI models to catch potential errors in real time. Shah argues that AI should complement, not replace, human clinicians—freeing them from administrative burdens so they can focus on hands-on patient care.

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    Fixing Healthcare is a co-production of Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr. Subscribe to the show via Apple, Spotify, Stitcher or wherever you find podcasts. Join the conversation or suggest a guest by following the show on Twitter and LinkedIn.

    The post FHC #164: AI vs. healthcare’s staffing crisis with Hippocratic’s CEO appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.


    FHC #163: Lessons from the tech industry & a CEO’s tragic murder Jan 29, 2025
    Show notes

    In this month’s Diving Deep episode, part of the Fixing Healthcare podcast series, Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr tackle two powerful stories that stand at medicine’s crossroads.

    Dr. Pearl begins by exploring the rise of Nvidia and the decline of Intel as a framework for understanding healthcare’s current challenges. Nvidia’s success in embracing cutting-edge GPU technology and pivoting toward future demands stands in stark contrast to Intel’s hesitation to adapt. The biggest lesson for healthcare professionals is clear: clinging to outdated models will lead to stagnation and failure. Pearl urges his colleagues in the industry to make an important series of shifts: to value-based care and chronic disease prevention that will transform the system, improve patient outcomes and empower clinicians.

    The episode then shifts to the controversial public response to the killing of Brian Thompson. Pearl and Corr discuss why tens of thousands of Americans reacted to the news with “likes” and laughter on social media. Pearl explains how this visceral response reflects the agony of patients and families who feel abandoned and powerless in a system that prioritizes bureaucracy over compassion. He argues that healthcare’s failures should be reframed as a moral crisis—one that demands immediate and transformative action from leaders and policymakers.

    Click play to hear the full conversation and explore what it will take to transform healthcare for the better.

    HELPFUL LINKS

    • Do We Care Enough To End The Suffering Our Healthcare System Inflicts? (Forbes)
    • Healthcare Professionals Are Doomed—Unless They Learn From Nvidia, Intel (Forbes)
    • Monthly Musings on American Healthcare (Robert Pearl’s newsletter)

    * * *

    Dr. Robert Pearl is the author of “ChatGPT, MD: How AI-Empowered Patients & Doctors Can Take Back Control of American Medicine.” All profits from the book go to Doctors Without Borders.

    Fixing Healthcare is a co-production of Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr. Subscribe to the show via Apple, Spotify or wherever you find podcasts. Join the conversation or suggest a guest by following the show on Twitter and LinkedIn.

    The post FHC #163: Lessons from the tech industry & a CEO’s tragic murder appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.


    FHC #162: Overcoming medical errors and rebuilding public trust Jan 22, 2025
    Show notes

    In this Unfiltered episode of Fixing Healthcare, co-hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr are joined by cardiologist and burnout expert Dr. Jonathan Fisher for an up-close look at two pressing challenges in healthcare: the persistent issue of medical errors and the growing erosion of public trust in the U.S. healthcare system.

    Dr. Pearl kicks off the discussion by highlighting a staggering statistic—400,000 people die annually from diagnostic errors in the U.S., with another 400,000 suffering permanent disability. Despite these figures, the conversation around AI in healthcare tends to focus on its limitations rather than its potential to reduce human error. Drs. Fisher and Pearl explore why physicians struggle to acknowledge medical mistakes and how shifting the culture to one of psychological safety and continuous learning could help.

    The conversation later pivots to the recent assassination of a prominent healthcare CEO and the surprising public response on social media. Fisher and Pearl dissect the public’s growing disillusionment with the healthcare system, emphasizing the deep emotional pain that many Americans experience when they feel powerless to access or afford the care they need.

    Key topics discussed in this episode include:

    • Medical errors and AI’s potential role in reducing misdiagnoses
    • The hidden fears and pressures physicians face in acknowledging mistakes
    • Rebuilding trust in healthcare leadership amid rising public frustration
    • The emotional toll of poor healthcare access and affordability
    • Balancing new technology with traditional patient care
    • Setting meaningful goals for healthcare organizations in the new year

    For more raw, insightful commentary, listen to the full episode and check out these helpful links:

    ‘Just One Heart’ (Jonathan Fisher’s newest book)

    ‘ChatGPT, MD’ (Robert Pearl’s newest book)

    Monthly Musings on American Healthcare (Robert Pearl’s newsletter)

    * * *

    Fixing Healthcare is a co-production of Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr. Subscribe to the show via Apple Podcasts or wherever you find podcasts. Join the conversation or suggest a guest by following the show on Twitter and LinkedIn.

    The post FHC #162: Overcoming medical errors and rebuilding public trust appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.


    MTT #90: Winter viruses, vaccine skepticism & America’s healthcare frustrations Jan 15, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode of Medicine: The Truth, co-hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr take on the pressing medical challenges dominating headlines this winter.

    From rising concerns about respiratory infections and vaccine skepticism to the harsh realities of healthcare costs, this episode delivers a comprehensive look at what’s happening in American medicine today.

    The conversation opens with an update on winter viruses, including COVID-19, the flu, RSV and a resurgence of whooping cough. Dr. Pearl explains the risks posed by low vaccination rates and the new COVID variant, XEC, which combines troubling mutations from prior strains. Meanwhile, pertussis (whooping cough) infections have soared to six times higher than last year, endangering unvaccinated children and vulnerable infants.

    The discussion also examines the role of vaccine skepticism in the political sphere, focusing on President-elect Trump’s appointment of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to a key health position. Dr. Pearl shares insights on the consequences of anti-vaccine rhetoric and what it could mean for public health policy.

    Here’s a snapshot of just some of the other topics covered in this episode of Medicine: The Truth:

    • The rise of bird flu and its potential to spark a pandemic
    • Falling public confidence in healthcare quality and coverage
    • The troubling response to the UnitedHealthcare CEO’s tragic death
    • New regulations eliminating medical debt from credit scores
    • Declining alcohol and marijuana use among teenagers
    • Encouraging trends in obesity rates thanks to GLP-1 medications

    Tune in as Dr. Pearl and Jeremy Corr untangle these complex issues and explore what’s next for medicine in America.

    * * *

    Dr. Robert Pearl is the author of the new book “ChatGPT, MD: How AI-Empowered Patients & Doctors Can Take Back Control of American Medicine” about the impact of AI on the future of medicine. All profits from the book go to Doctors Without Borders.

    Fixing Healthcare is a co-production of Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr. Subscribe to the show via Apple, Spotify, Stitcher or wherever you find podcasts. Join the conversation or suggest a guest by following the show on Twitter and LinkedIn

    The post MTT #90: Winter viruses, vaccine skepticism & America’s healthcare frustrations appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.


    FHC #161: AI will help docs be their best selves, says Google’s Karen DeSalvo Jan 07, 2025
    Show notes

    In the latest episode of Fixing Healthcare, hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr welcome Dr. Karen DeSalvo, an internal medicine physician and the Chief Health Officer at Google, to explore the transformative impact of technology on healthcare.

    Drawing from her vast experience—including roles as Health Commissioner in New Orleans and National Coordinator for Health Information Technology under the Obama administration—DeSalvo provides a compelling vision for how AI, multimodal data collection and cloud systems will shape the future of medicine.

    This interview is part of Season 10, which focuses on how technology will redefine healthcare in the coming years. When asked by Dr. Pearl about the three technologies she believes will have the greatest impact on healthcare, DeSalvo highlighted the following:

    1. Generative AI (Gen AI)

    DeSalvo delves into the revolutionary potential of generative AI in healthcare. She envisions a future where AI agents not only automate tasks but help healthcare providers achieve their “best selves.”

    These agents will enhance clinical workflows, facilitate patient engagement and support personalized medicine. Beyond the clinical setting, DeSalvo foresees AI acting as a patient’s personal advocate, navigating health journeys, offering preventive insights and even revisiting doctor-patient visits to clarify instructions or analyze diagnostics. While acknowledging the current limitations of AI’s reliability, she predicts that as these models grow exponentially in power, their integration into healthcare teams will revolutionize care delivery.

    2. Multimodal data collection

    The discussion shifts to the integration of multimodal data from various sources, such as sensors, smartphones and environmental monitors. DeSalvo explains how these technologies can create a comprehensive health narrative for individuals, aiding in the early detection of chronic diseases and other health issues.

    She paints a futuristic picture where these tools seamlessly integrate into daily life, acting like a constant companion—“like having your primary care doctor or even your mom with you at all times”—nudging healthier behaviors and contextualizing health data in real time.

    For underserved populations, such tools could expand access to culturally and linguistically appropriate care, bridging critical gaps in health equity.

    3. Cloud technology and data systems

    DeSalvo underscores the importance of cloud-based solutions in unlocking the potential of health data. She highlights the barriers posed by siloed, on-premise systems and paper records, which hinder care continuity, scientific research and patient experience.

    Cloud environments, she argues, offer enhanced cybersecurity, interoperability and opportunities for rapid AI advancements. By making data accessible while maintaining privacy and security, cloud technology could drive equitable health outcomes globally and foster collaboration across healthcare organizations.

    Throughout the episode, DeSalvo’s insights are grounded in her practical experiences in public health and technology. She shares examples of Google’s initiatives, such as using Android platforms to support community health workers in rural areas and leveraging AI tools like AlphaFold for groundbreaking protein-folding research. She emphasizes the importance of creating solutions tailored to real-world challenges, particularly in low-resource settings.

    Dr. Pearl concludes the interview by reflecting on DeSalvo’s optimism for technology’s role in transforming healthcare. He predicts that the integration of AI, multimodal data and cloud systems will empower patients, improve health equity, and alleviate the burdens on clinicians, ultimately leading to better outcomes and a more effective healthcare system.

    * * *

    Fixing Healthcare is a co-production of Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr. Subscribe to the show via Apple, Spotify, Stitcher or wherever you find podcasts. Join the conversation or suggest a guest by following the show on Twitter and LinkedIn.

    The post FHC #161: AI will help docs be their best selves, says Google’s Karen DeSalvo appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.


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