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    FANTI

    Sometimes the people, places, and things we love don’t love us back. We’re fans, but we also have some ANTI- feelings toward them. Every week on FANTI, journalists Tre’vell Anderson and Jarrett Hill bring their pop culture and political expertise to things we must stan and stand up against. FANTI is a place where nuance reigns supreme with energetic, complicated, and sometimes difficult conversations that bring deep knowledge and thoughtful perspective to the things we love and rage about, from the White House to the Real House(wives).

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    WSEO: Indicting Yourself (ft Angelica Ross and Imara Jones) Aug 24, 2023
    Show notes

    **This week FANTI is passing the mic to We See Each Other: The Podcast while our show is on a short hiatus. But don’t worry, we’ll be back with all new episodes starting August 31st!

    This week, we have reached the end of the journey with the final episode of We See Each Other: The Podcast. Hosts Tre’vell Anderson and Shar Jossell welcome Pose and American Horror Story star, Angelica Ross. She speaks on the state of trans media representation, how comedy has been both a gift and curse for the trans community, and what it means to indict one’s self. Then, our hosts speak with political journalist and host of The Anti - Trans Hate Machine, Imara Jones. Imara speaks on how trans representation in media has changed over time, going from no representation at all to hypervisibility in just the span of a few years. While media representation is still an obstacle, Imara asserts that erasure is the most violent act on the trans community.

    But first, some heartfelt final thoughts in Pass The Mic, where we hear from some community members from the Unique Women Coalition, and a WSEO listener.


    Find us on IG: @Slayzhon

    We made it easy to share your thoughts. Go to SpeakPipe.com/WeSeeEachOther

    You can buy We See Each Other: A Black Trans Journey Through TV & Film the book wherever books are sold

    Mentioned in the Show

    Chicago’s Kit Kat Lounge

    The Anti-Trans Hate Machine podcast

    TransLash Podcast with Imara Jones

    IG:

    @Rayzhon

    @sharsaysso

    @slayzhon (WSEO IG)

    Twitter

    @trevellanderson

    @sharssaysso

    @slayzhon

    @vivalapalma (Producer, Palmira Muniz)

    @swishswish (Senior Producer, Laura Swisher)

    Music: Neverending Nina (IG @neverendingninanotes)

    Producer: Palmira Muniz

    Senior Producer: Laura Swisher

    Laura Swisher is senior producer

    Music: Never Ending Nina

    We See Each Other: The Podcast is produced and distributed by MaximumFun.org

    This podcast is supported by Critical Minded, an initiative to invest in cultural critics of color co founded by The Nathan Cummings Foundation and The Ford Foundation. It’s a production of Slayzhon and Maximum Fun!


    (Don’t) Take Me To Church Aug 17, 2023
    Show notes

    On this week’s episode, jarrett and Tre’vell talk about church. Can we get an A - THEM?! The hosts examine their experiences growing up in church as baby queers, bringing up the good parts and a lot of the bad. But first, in the wake of Jonathan Majors' arrest on Saturday for alleged domestic assault, our hosts react to the conversations happening online. [Note: this conversation was recorded on Tuesday, March 28th]

    Mentioned in this Episode

    Jonathan Majors

    DIS/Honorable Mentions

    jh:

    dm: Plus size fashion (But shout out to TrendyCurvy on combating fatphobia in the fashion world)

    hm: Tre’vell, Ray Love, Mary Grace and the whole team of NABJLA

    hm: Black guy voice of Siri

    TA

    HM: Give Them Their Flowers—An Exhibit of Black LGBTQ+ Miami History

    DM: Spotify

    HM: Trans Week of Visibility and Action

    Go ahead and @ us

    Email: FANTI@maximumfun.org

    IG

    @FANTIpodcast

    @Jarrett Hill

    @rayzon (Tre’vell)

    Twitter

    @FANTIpodcast

    @TreVellAnderson

    @JarrettHill

    @vivalapalma

    @Swish (Senior Producer Laura Swisher)

    Laura Swisher is senior producer

    Music: Cor.ece

    Graphics: Ashley Nguyen

    FANTI is produced and distributed by MaximumFun.org


    Can Copaganda Ever Be Good? (ft. Tia Oso & Jared Loggins) Aug 10, 2023
    Show notes

    Who’s bringing the potato salad to the Donald Trump is Going to Jail party? Jarrett’s got sign up sheets! Then later, the hosts bring you the long awaited Copaganda conversation.

    Mentioned In this Episode

    Donald Trump

    DIS/Honorable Mentions

    jh:

    HM: Janelle James and her opening monologue at the 2023 Writers Guild Awards

    TA:

    HM: Tre’vell takes a moment to celebrate themselves.

    Go ahead and @ us

    Email: FANTI@maximumfun.org

    IG

    @FANTIpodcast

    @Jarrett Hill

    @rayzon (Tre’vell)

    Twitter

    @FANTIpodcast

    @TreVellAnderson

    @JarrettHill

    @vivalapalma (Producer, Palmira Muniz)

    @Swish (Senior Producer, Laura Swisher)

    Laura Swisher is senior producer

    Music: Cor.ece

    Graphics: Ashley Nguyen

    FANTI is produced and distributed by MaximumFun.org


    Color Of Friendship Aug 03, 2023
    Show notes

    Ever had a white friend? Or perhaps you are the white friend? On this week’s episode we discuss the FAN and ANTI of interracial friending.

    Mentioned In This Episode

    Jussie Smollett

    White People

    People Who are White

    DIS/Honorable Mentions

    Jarrett’s picks:

    HM: Jason Johnson - Happy Birthday!

    HM: Unprisoned, (Hulu) starring Marque Richardson and Kerry Washington

    HM: Oscar’s production design

    HM: Tony Evans, jr for song, Starless

    Tre’vell’s picks:

    HM: Rihanna’s Oscar Performance

    HM: 17 Leading Broadcasters on Barbara Walters's Legacy

    Our Sponsors This Week

    Wild Grain

    Wild Grain is the first-ever, bake-from-frozen subscription box for sourdough breads, fresh pastas, and artisanal pastries.

    For a limited time, FANTI listeners can get $30 off their first box, plus free croissants in every box with their subscription.

    To get this offer, go to: Wildgrain.com/FANTI. FANTI listeners can also use the promo code FANTI at checkout to get the discount.

    Go ahead and @ us

    Email: FANTI@maximumfun.org

    IG

    @FANTIpodcast

    @Jarrett Hill

    @rayzon (Tre’vell)

    Twitter

    @FANTIpodcast

    @TreVellAnderson

    @JarrettHill

    @vivalapalma (Producer Palmira Muniz)

    @Swish (Senior Producer Laura Swisher)

    Laura Swisher is senior producer

    Music: Cor.ece

    Graphics: Ashley Nguyen

    FANTI is produced and distributed by MaximumFun.org


    This Barbie Is On Strike! Jul 27, 2023
    Show notes

    On this week’s episode, hosts Tre’vell Anderson and jarrett hill go over the complex and complicado of the highly anticipated Barbie movie. They get into their thoughts on the film’s rollout, marketing strategy, and how Stereotypical Barbie represents the beginning of white women’s self - reckoning. But first in our Pass The Popcorn segment, our hosts speak on the state of the entertainment industry, from the WGA/SAG - AFTRA union strikes, to Hollywood’s initiative of driving out diversity, specifically at the network executive level.

    Our hosts will also be on hiatus during the month of August, but don’t worry! We’ll be sharing content throughout the break and will be back on August 31st with a brand new episode.

    Mentioned In This Episode

    UPS Union Strikes

    Shuwanza Goff

    Kevin Maxen

    DIS/Honorable Mentions

    jh

    DM: Companies who email too damn much

    TA

    HM: Creative Cuisine / GLAAD

    Our Sponsors This Week

    Wild Grain

    Wild Grain is the first-ever, bake-from-frozen subscription box for sourdough breads, fresh pastas, and artisanal pastries.

    For a limited time, FANTI listeners can get $30 off their first box, plus free croissants in every box with their subscription.

    To get this offer, go to: Wildgrain.com/FANTI. FANTI listeners can also use the promo code FANTI at checkout to get the discount.

    Go ahead and @ us

    Email: FANTI@maximumfun.org

    IG

    @FANTIpodcast

    @Jarrett Hill

    @rayzon (Tre’vell)

    Twitter

    @FANTIpodcast

    @TreVellAnderson

    @JarrettHill

    @vivalapalma (Producer Palmira Muniz)

    @Swish (Senior Producer Laura Swisher)

    Laura Swisher is senior producer

    Music: Cor.ece

    Graphics: Ashley Nguyen

    FANTI is produced and distributed by MaximumFun.org


    What Was Said Jul 20, 2023
    Show notes

    On this week’s episode, we dive into our bag of listener letters from YOU, the #FANTIfam! Hosts jarrett hill and Tre’vell Anderson respond to your questions about Artificial Intelligence, Copaganda, and British Vogue’s Pride Issue featuring Ncuti Gatwa. Our hosts also get into a lesson on Scottish Parliament, potato wedges, why Flava of Love might have actually been a queer show, and more!

    Then later, some DisHonorable Mentions and a message from our producers.

    Mentioned In this Episode

    Stop Cop City: Copaganda Pt II (ft. Da’Shaun L. Harrison)

    Is Pride for Not-Queer People?

    Fake Smart, Real Problems: Artificial Intelligence

    I Just Wanna Be Successful

    DIS/Honorable Mentions

    HM: South LA Pride / Durand Bernarr

    HM: Netflix’s Survival Of The Thickest starring Michelle Buteau

    Go ahead and @ us

    Email: FANTI@maximumfun.org

    IG

    @FANTIpodcast

    @Jarrett Hill

    @rayzon (Tre’vell)

    Twitter

    @FANTIpodcast

    @TreVellAnderson

    @JarrettHill

    @vivalapalma (Producer Palmira Muniz)

    @Swish (Senior Producer Laura Swisher)

    Laura Swisher is senior producer

    Music: Cor.ece

    Graphics: Ashley Nguyen

    FANTI is produced and distributed by MaximumFun.org


    Writing A Book Is HORD! (ft. Donovan X. Ramsey) Jul 13, 2023
    Show notes

    In this week’s episode, hosts Tre’vell Anderson and jarrett hill bring you a little something different: an extended discussion on the pros and cons of authoring a book. Our hosts discuss how challenging the writing process really is with FANTI veteran and author of When Crack Was King, Donovan X. Ramsey. The writers get into the nitty gritty of writing a book, covering everything from the brainstorming stage, finding motivation to write consistently, and fighting tooth and nail over book cover art.

    Then later, Emmy winning director, Nneka Onuorah’s latest documentary, Truth Be Told, and more highlights in our DisHonorable Mentions.

    Mentioned In This Episode

    When Crack Was King

    Historically Black Phrases

    We See Each Other: A Black Trans Journey Through TV and Film

    We See Each Other: The Podcast

    DIS/Honorable Mentions

    Jh

    HM: Deeply Madly Modern YouTube channel

    HM: Truth Be Told - Nneka Onuorah’s latest, premiering at Outfest July 20th

    HM: The new (ish) social media app, Spill

    TA

    HM: Stealth: A Transmasculine Podcast

    Our Sponsors This Week

    Brooklinen

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    And to all the LA folks, you can now shop Brooklinen’s sheets, towels and more in person at their Santa Monica store.

    For a limited time, FANTI listeners will get $20 off plus free shipping on orders of $100 or more by using the code FANTI.

    Go ahead and @ us

    Email: FANTI@maximumfun.org

    IG

    @FANTIpodcast

    @Jarrett Hill

    @rayzon (Tre’vell)

    Twitter

    @FANTIpodcast

    @TreVellAnderson

    @JarrettHill

    @vivalapalma(Producer, Palmira Muniz)

    @Swish (Senior Producer Laura Swisher)

    Laura Swisher is senior producer

    Music: Cor.ece

    Graphics: Ashley Nguyen

    FANTI is produced and distributed by MaximumFun.org


    Stop Cop City: Copaganda Pt II (ft. Da’Shaun Harrison) Jul 06, 2023
    Show notes

    Y’all loved the first one so much, we had to bring it back! Hosts jarrett hill and Tre’vell Anderson welcome writer, editor, and Stop Cop City activist Da’Shaun L. Harrison. Harrison also discusses why they and fellow activists are trying to block the development and construction of a police training compound “Cop City”, on the outskirts of Atlanta. Stop Cop City activists believe that going forward with the development would displace and disenfranchise the lives of marginalized people, and further perpetuate the police state we are currently living in. In addition, they’ll discuss how copaganda goes beyond just “cop shows” and legal dramas and can show up in many different forms in media.

    Later on the show, Tre’vell and jarrett get into some DisHonorable Mentions and a history lesson on civil rights activist Pauli Murray.

    Mentioned In This Episode:

    Pauli Murray

    Copaganda

    Stop Cop City

    DIS/Honorable Mentions:

    jh:

    HM: Well, I Laughed Podcast - the system was never designed for us to stop working

    HM: See The Thing Is..Podcast - I’d rather work thru jealousy than work thru dishonesty”

    HM: Snoop Dogg, Doggyland Kid Hits, Affirmation Song

    HM: The Schomburg’s marking time: Arts In The Age of Incarceration

    TA:

    HM: The Hollywood Reporter and New York Times Envelope roundtable talk curators, particularly Lacey Rose.

    Plugs:

    Da’Shaun L. Harrison’s Belly Of The Beast: THE POLITICS OF ANTI-FATNESS AS ANTI-BLACKNESS

    My Name Is Pauli Murray - Prime Video

    We See Each Other: A Black Trans Journey Through Television and Film

    Buy The Book

    Listen To The Podcast

    Pre-order Historically Black Phrases

    Go ahead and @ us

    Email: FANTI@maximumfun.org

    IG

    @FANTIpodcast

    @Jarrett Hill

    @rayzon (Tre’vell)

    Twitter

    @FANTIpodcast

    @TreVellAnderson

    @JarrettHill

    @Vivalapalma (Producer Palmira Muniz)

    @Swish (Senior Producer Laura Swisher)

    Laura Swisher is senior producer

    Music: Cor.ece

    Graphics: Ashley Nguyen

    FANTI is produced and distributed by MaximumFun.org


    Is Pride for Not-Queer People? Jun 29, 2023
    Show notes

    On this week’s episode, hosts Tre’vell Anderson and jarrett hill make a call back to Tre’vell’s Dis/Honrable Mention of Ncuti Gatwa’s British Vogue’s Pride Issue feature in Ep #174. In the issue, Gatwa claims he chooses not to label himself as queer, which poses the question: has Pride rebranded (again) to fit those who do not identify as queer?

    But first, jarrett and Tre’vell discuss the state of employment, or rather unemployment, in media considering the rise of publication layoffs, like Buzzfeed News with 15% staff layoffs and Insider with 10%, just this past April. With many more platforms following the same trend, the future of journalism looks uncertain. And later, we get a history lesson on the very first Queen of Drag.

    Mentioned In The Episode

    Ncuti Gatwa in the Pride Issue of British Vogue

    Smithsonian Magazine, William Dorsey Swann, the First Self - Proclaimed “Queen of Drag”

    We See Each Other: The Podcast

    DIS/Honorable Mentions

    jh:

    DM: Amy Schumer’s new Netflix special “Emergency Contact”

    HM: Aisha Harris’s new book “Wannabe: Reckonings With The Pop Culture That Shapes Me”

    TA

    HM: Peacock original film, Praise This

    Our Sponsors This Week

    Wild Grain

    Wild Grain is the first-ever, bake-from-frozen subscription box for sourdough breads, fresh pastas, and artisanal pastries.

    For a limited time, FANTI listeners can get $30 off their first box, plus free croissants in every box with their subscription.

    To get this offer, go to: Wildgrain.com/FANTI. FANTI listeners can also use the promo code FANTI at checkout to get the discount.

    Go ahead and @ us

    Email: FANTI@maximumfun.org

    IG

    @FANTIpodcast

    @Jarrett Hill

    @rayzon (Tre’vell)

    Twitter

    @FANTIpodcast

    @TreVellAnderson

    @JarrettHill

    @vivalapalma (Producer, Palmira Muniz)

    @Swish (Senior Producer Laura Swisher)

    Laura Swisher is senior producer

    Music: Cor.ece

    Graphics: Ashley Nguyen

    FANTI is produced and distributed by MaximumFun.org


    WSEO - The Black Trans Gaze (ft. Kristen Lovell and D. Smith) Jun 22, 2023
    Show notes

    This week FANTI is passing the mic to We See Each Other: The Podcast. After you listen to the episode, make sure to check out Kristen Lovell’s The Stroll which premiered on Max the evening before this episode dropped.

    Hosts Tre’vell Anderson and Shar Jossell welcome producer and co - director of the documentary, The Stroll, Kristen Lovell as they discuss the documentary’s portrayal of trans sex workers who worked in the Meatpacking District of New York City during the 90s. Lovell also speaks on finally having the control of the Black trans narrative behind the camera, and not just as the subject. Then, our hosts speak with the producer and director of the documentary, Kokomo City, D. Smith. She discusses the audience's reception to the film and the legacy of Koko Da Doll, the star of the film who was tragically murdered earlier this year.

    But first, Tre’vell and Shar discuss sex work representation in media as it pertains to Black Trans women and while it being a necessary piece of trans history, it is not the end all be all of trans representation. And later we hear what every day trans folks have to say about trans visibility in another segment of Pass The Mic.

    Episode Notes:

    Hosts Tre’vell Anderson and Shar Jossell welcome producer and co - director of the documentary, The Stroll, Kristen Lovell as they discuss the documentary’s portrayal of trans sex workers who worked in the Meatpacking District of New York City during the 90s. Lovell also speaks on finally having the control of the Black trans narrative behind the camera, and not just as the subject. Then, our hosts speak with the producer and director of the documentary, Kokomo City, D. Smith. She discusses the audience's reception to the film and the legacy of Koko Da Doll, the star of the film who was tragically murdered earlier this year.

    But first, Tre’vell and Shar discuss sex work representation in media as it pertains to Black Trans women and while it being a necessary piece of trans history to learn, it is not the end all be all of trans representation. And later we hear what every day trans folks have to say about trans visibility in another segment of Pass The Mic.

    Over the course of this series, Tre’vell and Shar will be including the personal experiences of ‘everyday’ trans people. To that end, anyone in community who wishes to comment on or speak to issues brought up on the show, please share your thoughts with them. We’ve made it easy to record a message. Just click SpeakPipe.com/WeSeeEachOther and follow the very simple instructions. If you’d like to email Shar and Tre’vell, you can send any message to FANTI@maximumfun.org and put WSEO in the subject line.

    Find us on IG: @Slayzhon

    We made it easy to share your thoughts. Go to SpeakPipe.com/WeSeeEachOther

    You can buy We See Each Other: A Black Trans Journey Through TV & Film the book wherever books are sold

    Mentioned in the Show

    D. Smith on Kokomo City

    Kokomo City

    Pose (Hulu)

    Stroll

    Good Trouble (Freeform)

    Sylvia Rivera’s Place

    Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil

    Plugs

    Kokomo City will be in select theaters on July 28th

    The Stroll drops June 21 on HBO

    IG:

    @Rayzhon

    @sharsaysso

    @slayzhon (WSEO IG)

    Twitter

    @trevellanderson

    @sharssaysso

    @slayzhon

    @vivalapalma (Producer, Palmira Muniz)

    @swishswish (Senior Producer, Laura Swisher)

    Music: Neverending Nina (IG @neverendingninanotes)

    Producer: Palmira Muniz

    Senior Producer: Laura Swisher

    Laura Swisher is senior producer

    Music: Never Ending Nina

    We See Each Other: The Podcast is produced and distributed by MaximumFun.org


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