Fail Like An Artist

From art burnout to balance Jul 22, 2024

Whoop we made an episode!! After a long hiatus, Julie & Phoebe discuss the challenges they've faced in balancing art, life, and other responsibilities. We reflect on the difficulties of staying connected and maintaining a creative practice amidst busy schedules and personal obstacles. Despite these challenges, Phoebe talks about recent efforts to carve out studio time, the emotional rollercoaster of feeling like an artist, the pressure of social media, and the small victories in reconnecting with their artistic identities. Julie talks about her new podcast, "The Creative Kind," and how it offers a different perspective by interviewing other artists. They also touch on the importance of community and support, highlighting how connecting with others facing similar struggles can be validating and motivating.

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Failing to record a podcast Mar 06, 2024

It was so nice to record a new episode for you! in this episode we touch on what has been keeping us in and out of the studio lately, and why there's been a lengthy break between podcast episodes!

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Reflecting Back On The Year Dec 18, 2023

In this episode we reflect back on 2023 and chat about the biggest things that we’ve learnt through all the ups and downs.

Thanks for sticking with us this year! we’re not entirely sure how our Christmas/New Year scheduling will go, but we’ll get you the next episode as oon as we can!

xx JB & PG

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Perceptions Around Instagram Dec 11, 2023

This week we are chatting about perceptions. Phoebe recently reached a milestone and tipped over 100,000 Instagram followers, so we chat about how this came about after a long time little growth. We discuss how this number is a bit like being ‘rich in Monopoly’ and doesn’t mean instant sales or success. We delve into how it is impossible to predict when a reel will go viral, and also how follower count can impact people’s expectations and perceptions. We both have different ways of communicating using Instagram, but the one key similarity is that we never stray from being ourselves - sharing in a way that comes most naturally to us - and we both agree that using it to keep an up-to-date portfolio of work and building a genuine connection with your audience is far more important than follower count number. We also talk about what to do when you feel like there’s “no point” in posting because of the algorithm, and what holds artists (ourselves included) back from posting, such as worrying about how others perceive you and your art.

We hope you found this week’s episode interesting, please let us know your thoughts and any questions it raised.

PG & JB

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Failing Forward - Learning To Pause Before You Start Dec 04, 2023

This week we are chatting about how we reboot or start new artworks and art projects. We discuss the ways that we have failed at this in the past, by jumping in too quickly and not fully allowing ideas to develop, and how we both want to get better at pausing before rushing ahead. When thinking about planning, it’s no surprise that Julie is more of a spreadsheet user and Phoebe tends to use her less reliable ‘mind map’ system… We also discover the ‘interesting’ way that Phoebe visualises a year.

We hope you enjoy this chat, please share with us how you like to plan and restart!

PG & JB

Mentioned:

Sarah Tasker - Letters To A Hopeful Creative Episode here

Listener Fail: Sierra Roberts @sierrarobertspaint

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Exhibition debrief & general catch up Nov 27, 2023

It’s been a minute since we sat down to record, and we just about forgot how to do it! This episode sees us catching up with the big life events that have been the reason for our absence. Phoebe’s trip to the UK and Julie’s visit back to Australia for her solo exhibition. We chat about the highs and lows of the past couple of months, barely scratching the surface, but at least we know there will be more episodes to come!

That you for sticking with us whilst we took a pause… We hope you enjoyed this episode!

PG & JB

Mentioned:

Julie’s exhibition: Above & Below

Listener Fail: Charlotte Buskin @charlottebuskinartist

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Interview with Alice Sheridan Oct 16, 2023

This week we chat with Alice Sheridan, a London based artist, one half of the popular art podcast ‘Art Juice’, and creator of the ‘Connected Artist Club’, a supportive art community full of advice, resources and workshops.

Alice spoke really honestly about her failures, what struck us most how insightful she is when she looks back onto past and recent failures. There’s so much to learn from Alice’s thoughtful approach to her art making, we hope you enjoy it as much as we did!

Alice’s Website

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Interview with Amber Creswell Bell Oct 09, 2023

After our ‘Finding gallery representation’ episode we had a bunch of interesting questions from you lovely folks that we definitely wanted to dig into deeper and answer, but we also weren’t sure we were the best people to answer them which is where the idea for this episode came from! We wanted to interview a curator and ask her your questions. We feel we were incredibly lucky that Amber said yes as she was so generous and helpful with the information she gave, we felt we learnt a lot, and we hope you do too!

Find out more about Amber Creswell Bell

Find out more about Michael Reid galleries

Mentioned in the show:

Willy Russo’s interview with Amber on ‘Interview with an Artist’

Art W**k’s interview wtih Amber

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Slightly Crunchy Deadlines Sep 14, 2023

Julie & Phoebe catch up about their weeks, looming deadlines and trips. They talk about the hurdles of buying art supplies and their many abandoned carts.

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Evolving your art style Sep 11, 2023

This week we revisit the topic of art style. We dig into the difference between style and genre and discuss how our art styles have emerged, and where they continue to evolve. We discuss the pros and cons of wanting to try ‘everything’ and how some people seem to display a style from the get-go. Julie talks through the differences between her two styles of painting, but doesn’t want to be pigeonholed, and Phoebe shares her S.T.Y.L.E acronym that explains how her style is evolving and what things she’s let go of in order to grow. We realise that a style is not a thing that you arrive at but a continually evolving process!

Mentioned in the show:

Creative Pep Talk (Andy J Pizza) episodes on style:

Episode 354

Episode 392

Laura Horn Art Podcast

Susan Nethercotes Podcast

Ben Howard article

Phoebe’s colour mixing course “The Key To Colour Mixing” - 20% off with code ‘spring20’

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Artist, interrupted Sep 07, 2023

A catch up on our weeks so far! We celebrate hitting 100k downloads and discuss some of our fails and wins, similarities and differences this week.

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You Asked, We Answered! Sep 04, 2023

This week we thought we’d try something new, so as the title suggests we asked the listeners to throw some questions at us. From our favouring artists to our favourite colours, there’s hopefully something of interest for you to listen to as we witter on... Full disclosure, we asked for questions aimed specifically at either of us but ended up just having a big ol’ pile that we picked randomly from. So sorry if we asked the wrong question to the wrong person, or if we didn’t manage to get to your question, we might just have to do another Q&A episode down the track! Keep the questions and fails coming, you can DM us a voice note @faillikeanartist on instagram and we might just play it out on the pod - Imagine that!

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None of these are sponsored ( I mean, we wouldn’t say no if any of you are reading this!)

‘Read this book if you want to take great photographs” Henry Carroll

Gamblin Ground here

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We're both fine Aug 31, 2023

In this weeks catch up, Julie & Phoebe ignore the rest of their lives and focus on art.

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Navigating Comparison & Competitiveness as Artists Aug 28, 2023

This week on the pod we discuss the tricky subject of comparison and competitiveness. We both admit to having these feelings especially during recent times when sales have been slower, and talk openly about how it makes us feel, and how we manage things when the green eyed monster inevitably does show up. We both realise that it is completely normal to feel a level of competitiveness and comparison, and it’s not about trying to quash that, but it’s what we do with those feelings that matters. We share personal anecdotes highlighting times when we’ve caught ourselves comparing, feeling jealous when we see fellow artists succeed, and how feelings of envy can actually be signposts towards growth. We chat about the negative impact of using others’ success as a metric to compare ourselves to, how to manage social media and stop the doom scroll… and how it’s far better to lean into community rather than see others as competition.

So if you’ve ever compared yourself to other artists and feelings of scarcity are creeping in, you’re not alone! This episode is one for you.

PG & JB xx

Mentioned:

How To Fail with Elizabeth Day & Brene Brown

Woo-woo podcast (Very Vedic -Competitiveness, Social Media & The Status Trap)

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The Time Crunch Aug 24, 2023

Phoebe and Julie talk about their lives post visit, Phoebe talks about her time timer and how she's starting painting again since getting home and Julie talks about the how pressured she feels around time leading up to her exhibition.

Artist shout out to : Emilybell.art who has launched her etsy shop!

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Gallery Representation, from Swiping Right to Partnering Up! Aug 21, 2023

In this episode we discuss forming relationships with galleries and interior stores. From finding and approaching a gallery (specifically how we have approached them), and what to do if you get the ‘dreaded rejection’ email or worse still - totally ghosted. It’s a bit like the dating game really - just like finding the right partner involves figuring out compatibility, communication styles and looking for someone who supports you, finding the right gallery who you connect with and one that supports your growth in a way that feels aligned with you is very important. But it’s not always an easy journey - of course there’s always going to be times when things don’t work out, so finding a gallery does take resilience! Of course, we only have our own experiences to draw from, and we share what we feel are some things to consider. However, we have future episodes planned where we actually talk to some experts to get the inside knowledge!

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Bonus Catch Up Episode #2 Aug 17, 2023

We've finally met! Our first in person record we're just catching up on the week of mishaps and having some fun. Enjoy!

Back to normal programming next week

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Sick, burnt out & excited to meet up IRL Aug 13, 2023

Just a quick catch up, Phoebe and Julie both talk about their weeks of being sick, tired, and burnt out and how excited and nervous they are about meeting in person tomorrow!

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When Failure Leads to Art Opportunities with Laura Horn Aug 07, 2023

Well what an exciting episode - for the first time we have a co-host on the pod, the wonderful Laura Horn! We had a lovely relaxed chat with Laura, who is such an easygoing person full of so much knowlege and art biz wisdom.

We ask Laura where she is on the Fail Scale, and chat to her about why she hasn’t released an episode of her own podcast ‘The Laura Horn Art Podcast’ in almost a year. She reveals to us her biggest failure - and how that inspired a big change of focus that lead to a very successful but different type of revenue from art. We chat about how she has managed to step away from social media but still have her art business thrive, and her plans for her new art and recording cottage studio!

Thank you so much Laura! xx

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Laura Horn’s website

Laura’s new cottage studio

Laura’s podcast interview with Phoebe

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Time Management & Self Care Jul 30, 2023

This week on the pod we’ve both had fairly stressful things going on, which has led to some fwobbles and generally feeling like we are running on empty. So we end up chatting about how to apply self care during times when, well, there doesn’t seem to be time - and you realise there will never actually be enough time unless you make it. That led us onto the subject of time management where we discuss different strategies such as ‘paying yourself first’ and how we manage (and fail to manage) our time.

mentioned:

4000 weeks , Oliver Burkeman

Pomodoro technique

Ten percent happier, ep. 606 laura vanderkam

Quotes: “Have you accepted that you are who you are, or are you still hung up on becoming the person you think you ought to be?” Oliver Burkman

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Pulling Threads & Answering Questions Jul 23, 2023

This week is a slightly more upbeat conversation after the heaviness of the previous one. Phoebe breathes a sigh of relief that the school holidays are over, and reflects on her recent kid’s art workshop. Julie is sleep deprived, also grateful for some more studio time, and reveals how her new fitness regime is playing out…

We discuss the new meta app that is the latest hot topic - Threads. What is it? What’s the point of it, and do we - especially creatives - need it? We dig into how it could be useful vs a time waster.

We then move on and answer some of the listener questions that came in following on from our episode on quitting, pivoting, resting and second jobs.

Finally we wrap up with a call out for anyone in Dunedin who is interested in getting together with us in August when we meet up IRL! If you are please drop Julie a line here: faillikeanartist@gmail.com

Magic Lessons podcast link (Mark Nepo episode)

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Quitting, Second Jobs, Pivoting & Resting Jul 16, 2023

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This week we delve into the the tricky subject of when you feel like you want to throw in the towel, and give up trying to make ‘ends meet’ as an artist…

First, Julie chats about why she’s feeling peppy and shares her enthusiasm over her newest cloudscapes. Phoebe shares how the winter school holidays are going, how she survived a long car journey and her plans for a local kids art workshop.

This brings them onto the topic, as Phoebe reveals she’s been finding it challenging running an art business lately. They chat about the pitfalls of being self employed during a time when the economy is struggling, and what other options there are out there for artists. Julie boulsters Phoebe’s moral and reminds her of all the ways she’s diversified her income stream, and they discuss how feeling like ‘quitting’ can really just be a motivator to explore new directions or just to press pause on full time arting, and perhaps supplement your income another way - and how none of these makes you a failure.

We have never had so many people DM us about a topic before, so next week we’ll be dedicating a whole episode to answering your listener questions around quitting. If you have any more questions please drop us a line and let us know.

Mentioned in this episode

Phoebe’s kids podcast suggestion list: Tumble Science Podcast for Kids, Smash Boom Best, Who When Wow!
Stereophonic song - One Thousand Trees
Creative NZ article Creative New Zealand and NZ On Air creative professionals research released
Glennon Doyle ‘We can do hard things"‘ episode on quitting

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Unravelling Perfectionism - Part 2 Jul 09, 2023

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This week, Julie chats about how her photoshoot went, and Phoebe reveals how she got over a fwobble. She also reveals her big news - that her artwork is now being represented in Australia by Greenhouse Interiors!

In this episode we carry on the conversation around perfectionism. We dig a bit deeper into how perfectionism affects our art practices, how it shows up in sneaky ways - even the recording of the podcast…

Quotes:

Paul Valéry “a work is never completed, but merely abandoned.”

“The imperfections are what connect us so often. We strive for perfection to belong, to be loved and to have approval, and yet what connects us more than anything is the imperfections of our journey” - The Imperfects Podcast.

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Unravelling Perfectionism - Part 1 Jul 02, 2023

This week Julie discusses how lucky she feels to love her job, her impending photoshoot and her struggle with writing a newsletter. Phoebe is sick of the rain, feeling likes she’s failing at remembering important things and has finally sent off an important parcel of artwork. She has been procrastinating, which leads them into this week’s topic of perfectionism. What is perfectionism and how does it show up for them both? Do they even consider themselves perfectionists?

FLAAP also now has a Facebook group ‘Fail Like An Artist Group’ so please click on the link and sign up, think of it as a place to connect with other FLAAPers, share your issues and wins! If you are interested in helping us moderate the group please drop us an email faillikeanartist@gmail.com

Mentioned:

The Neurodivergent Woman Podcast: Perfectionism with Jennifer Kemp

The Imperfects: Dr Emily - Curb Your Perfectionism

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Positivity during difficult times Jun 25, 2023

In this episode we delve into the topic of positivity, after a listener asked if we would consider changing the podcast title to something more ‘positive’. Julie and Phoebe chat about their thoughts on this idea, and why they decided to use the word ‘fail’ in the podtcast title in the first place. This leads them into a deeper dive into the concept of positivity. It’s not always easy to stay positive when life throws you lemons, (and you’re out of gin and your tonic has gone flat) sometimes you don’t want to ‘smile’ and put on a brave face. So what else can we do? They reflect on how they turn difficult situations around - using analogies about marigolds and onions…

Mentioned:

Ben Howard interview with Jo Whiley Radio2

Ben Howard interview in the Gaurdian

‘Walking Backwards’ Song

Julie’s GRIT Rubric

How Do You Cope Podcast

https://www.cultofpedagogy.com/marigolds/

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Juggling porridge & listener Q's Jun 18, 2023

This week on the pod Julie’s household has been hit by yet another bout of illness, causing her to fret over more missed studio time. Phoebe debriefs Julie on how her first ‘Sip and Paint’ art workshop went… and it brings up some profound realisations about why she has avoided teaching for so long. Julie realised she may now not be able to complete as many artworks for her exhibition, but shares a podcast she listened to that had a positive impact on the way she viewed this - realising that its only her that cares about the number of artworks, and the importance of enjoying the process rather than becoming stressed over a fixed outcome. Then they move on to answering listener questions, and share their advice on topics ranging from studio lighting and creating engaging instagram posts, to overcoming creative block and getting over the fear of getting crickets when you share your work.

Enjoy!

PG & JB xx

Mentioned:

The Imperfects Podcast

Preview app for planning Instagram posts

Shop Canvas Light

Phoebe’s Studio Light

Phoebe’s coaching for artists

Low Toxic Painting information:

Green Guide for Artists (book)

Non- Toxic oil painting mediums and oil varnishes- Jackson’s blog

Less toxic brush cleaning method- Jackson’s blog

Oil Painting without solvents - Sophie Ploeg

Find Julie here: www.juliebattisti.com , @juliebattisti

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From sunbathing to surrendering... Jun 11, 2023

Woohoo! We’re back after a two week break - a break that almost broke Julie! We really missed recording and chatting to each other, and had so much to tell each other that this episode ended up just being a ‘catch up’ chat, rather than the Q&A episode we had planned (that will be coming next week instead). We hope you enjoy this informal, funny chat that’s even less structured or professional than ever!

We discuss holidaying with kids and how challenging the reality of it can be, almost as challenging as saying the word “Worcestershire”! Julie is also struggling to name her upcoming exhibition, but shares how every cloud has a silver lining - her Fiji cloud photos have sparked a new creative direction…Phoebe updates us about her ‘fwobble’ and talks about how letting go of her word of the year has led to some surprising things happening. She also shares about a new venture that is out of her comfort zone - but she’s facing the fear and doing it anyway!

We hope you enjoy!

Mentioned: @mominard_abstracts

The Art Law Podcast

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Kofi Thanks:

Wendy, Michelle, Belinda, Trudy, Caroline, Holly, Kate & Roni

Thank you all so much! Seriously floored by the support that came in, even while we were on break. It does really help us to keep the podcast going!

Artist Shout Outs:

The Art Chatter podcast - 50th episode, everyone’s advice for people starting out, a really great listen. We give our 2 cents worth! (JB said 200th in the episode, I’m sorry for the mistake here, I can only blame lack of sleep )
Melissa Boardman @melissa_boardman Melissa Boardman has just released a bunch of brand new native bird art prints. Her prints are based on her distinctively bold gouache illustrations and reflect her love and admiration for the native birds of New Zealand.

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Anxiety, success and having a ‘fwobble’ May 21, 2023

In this week’s episode Phoebe shares her ‘panic and the pizzeria’ and her decision to change her ‘word’ of the year. She talks about how this year she has felt like she has been on the backfoot and talks about the anxiety that she's been struggling with because of this. Julie lets us know how she got on at her first ‘artist meet-up’ social event, wonders whether she’s been taking photos illegally and reveals a solution to her hunt for pliers! She shares that she's feeling time pressured to be able to adhere to her own deadline, especially with a holiday looming - will she be able to relax??!

They both delve into the idea of success and what this means to them. What is the difference between pride and success? And why can’t Julie say she’s successful!? It's a tricky topic and it brings up some interesting thoughts and feelings!

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AI & Art - Is it Intelligence or Insanity? May 14, 2023

In this episode Phoebe and Julie open the can of worms that is AI in art. They discuss this rapidly evolving new technology and its impact in the art world. And what a messy can of worms it is! They acknowledge that with this landscape changing so rapidly, the information they share may well be out of date very quickly. They try to keep the conversation neutral however it does occasionally swerve into their own personal opinions…

They (do their best to) answer listener questions about the use of AI in art and also the concerns over copyright, how AI image generators collect their data via ‘scraping’ and the potential risks this poses to artists. Also what impact the use of AI might have to those artists who create digital or graphic design work. They acknowledge that AI can have many benefits to artists such as short cutting some mundane creative processes, or how easy it can be to create ‘original’ source images, and how text AI generators can help those who struggle with writing. They also touch on the ethical and environmental implications around AI and talk about the need for development of regulations around the creation of AI art.

We may or may not end the show with Phoebe rapping a “Fail Like An Artist” rap created by ChatGPT…

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Odd socks, crocs and the importance of art friends May 07, 2023

As an artist, experiencing self-doubt and loneliness is inevitable, especially since many of us tend to work alone. In this episode, Julie shares her struggles with self-doubt and exhibition worries, & how she overcame a recent experience of the 'comparison trap' with the help of her art friends. Phoebe expresses concern that Julie is working too hard (does she ever sleep?) shares some exciting news about her crocs*, and discusses her own current struggle with her work being stuck in the 'messy middle' stage. They also discuss they divided opinion of “should socks match” and introduce The Fail Scale - where are they at this week? If 1 is “whoops I spilled my paint water” and 10 is “whoops I burned down my studio”??

The conversation then shifts to the importance of having 'studio buddies' and how having an artist friend to talk to can help us overcome difficult moments more easily. If you are seeking a studio bestie, you can use the hashtag #FLAAPfriends in your posts or stories to let other artists know that you are open to connecting with someone. Remember that it's not necessary to meet up or even be in the same country - virtual support buddies can be just as valuable as in-person friends!

*this is a joke btw

Phoebe has started Creative Coaching for artists, you can find out more here

Mentioned:

Imposter Syndrome Episode link

Spicy Playlist link

Jim Carey’s spiritual awakening

Florence Lee & Co reel

Use the hashtag #flaapfriends

All of the other links and information from this weeks episode can be found in our newsletter:

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"Shut up, you can" and other motivational quotes Apr 30, 2023

We’re back baby!! We hope you’ve missed us in your ears because we’ve certainly missed podcasting. This week the format has changed slightly, firstly you’ll notice the pod has dropped at the beginning of the week, (yay you can now plan your entire week around when to listen!) and secondly since we hadn’t had a proper chat for a while, we decided to keep this episode more of a catch up rather than focusing on one particular topic. There definitely still fails in here though! Julie chats about her mission of setting herself a deadline to finish an ambitious amount of paintings and Phoebe…fails a lot…! And you’ll have to listen to find out why!

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Failing at Prints Apr 11, 2023

To print, or not to print… that is the question. In this episode we delve into the world of prints. Julie talks about when she tried to make selling photographs work and why she doesn’t offer prints or photographs any more. Phoebe talks about her print offerings and how she feels she’s failing at making them a streamlined part of her business. This week we also reached out to two artists for extra advice, Jen Seivers and Sierra Roberts, as we both felt we lacked enough experience to give a rounded view! With their help we do our best to answer as many listener questions as we could in the time we had. Feel free to carry on the conversation - if you have more questions do reach out!

Kofi Thank yous:

Aimee,Christina,Melissa,Cheryl, Jenni, Julia, Nina,and Caroline

Thank you to Sierra and Jen for sharing their knowledge with us!

Sierra Roberts @sierrarobertspaint

Jen Seivers @jensievers_art

Phoebe’s newsletter:

Phoebe’s prints

Julie’s newsletter

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Failing with Art Supplies Apr 04, 2023

This week on the pod Julie’s experiencing the ‘joys of teething’ and subsequent sleep deprivation, whilst working on so many large artworks that 1 meter actually feels small! Phoebe has learnt a new skill - wand making, is trying anything to make her recovery from covid speedier and is trying out sound healing (*woo woo alert) to recalibrate her request for abundance. Then we move on to discussing art supplies, the things we’ve bought that we no longer use and what we use now. Phoebe discusses the pros and cons of acrylic whilst Julie does the same for oil paint. Then the listener questions cover a range of topics that we try to troubleshoot and give advice about.

Visit our newsletter for the full list of recommendations from this weeks episode- too many to fit in the show notes!

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Failing to Get the Blue Tick Mar 28, 2023

What is a ‘blue tick’ and what does it mean if you get one? This week we discussed the ins and outs of the new ‘paid for verification badge’ that Meta are offering Instagram users. We chat about how much does it cost, how can you get a discount, and what the benefits for artists - if any - actually are. We share feedback from those who got a blue tick prior to the paid version plus from a few artists who’ve already signed up for the paid version. As always we discuss our thoughts on the matter and our own fails with getting the elusive blue tick…

Mentioned:

Eckhart Tolle

The Convent in Auckland

Meta Instagram verification link

Contributors:

@loveludie

@HannahJensenArt

@Anastasiaparmson.art

Quotes from:

Should you pay Zuckerberg or Musk for a blue tick? Financial Review, Mark DiStefano

Social media used to be free, not anymore, Vox, Shirin Ghaffary

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Find Phoebe here: www.phoebegander.com or @phoebeganderart

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Failing at Being Original Mar 21, 2023

What makes art original, when is copying ok and not ok? What can you do if you are worried about being copied? Phoebe opens up about a sensitive time, when she was blocked by an artist she admired, and also times when she has been copied and had images stolen and passed off as others’ work. Julie chats about sometimes feeling unoriginal due to the subject matters she paints, and how it feels to see others doing similar work. We discuss the ideas around whether there is such a thing as an original idea, where creative ideas come from and when it's ok to copy - and how not to cross the line.

Mentioned

Hamish Blake instagram cake stories

Thank you to these Ko-Fi supporters; Rita, Helen, Wendy, Michelle and Caroline and everyone else who has sent us some Ko-fi Money!

CJ Hendry

(She turned the video of her destroying it into and NFT)

Willy Russo

Books:

Rick Rubin - The Creative Act

Elizabeth Gilbert - Big Magic

Austin Kleon - Steal Like An Artist

Gallah Newsletter with an interesting editorial on the impact of AI

Quotes

Austin Kleon “The only way to find your voice is to use it. It’s hardwired, built into you. Talk about the things you love. Your voice will follow.”

Chuck Close “Inspiration is for amateurs — the rest of us just show up and get to work.”

Find Julie here:

www.juliebattisti.com

@juliebattisti

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www.phoebegander.com

@phoebeganderart

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Failing at Shipping Mar 14, 2023

We hate shipping, but it’s one of those things we both need to do, so join us to learn from our fails, but also our tips and tricks. We cover shipping fails like not charging enough, taxes and duties for international packages and damaged shipments. We answer some listener questions about how to package and send larger works, using recycled materials, how to package prints and end the episode with some great tips from our listeners!

Claire Te Au’s first solo show: https://www.instagram.com/claireteauartist/

Aftership : You can use aftership to track your parcels across countries,(and find out when they get stuck in customs.

Duties and Taxes : Simply Duty: There are a few of these websites around, this one lets you use it for free 5 times a day and covers quite a few counties

Fed Ex

PackSend : This is the link to the NZ site- but they are available in various locations

Paccabag: Australian made reusable art packaging

Frames by Daniel : NZ Made art freight boxes

Just a note to say we’re not sponsored by any of these companies/people, it is just who we have used/heard about!

Check out our newsletter for all the process tips and tricks!

Flapjacks : English muesli bar made by Phoebe - recipe is also in the newsletter.

Find Julie here:

www.juliebattisti.com

@juliebattisti

Find Phoebe here:

www.phoebegander.com

@phoebeganderart

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Failing at Art & Motherhood Mar 07, 2023

We started today's episode with the title ‘juggling art & life, but it quickly morphed into a discussion on balancing art & motherhood. We do hope to expand on other areas of the balancing act of having a creative career , but we just couldn’t fit any more into this episode !

We discuss the difficulties in finding time for art while parenting; mum guilt, time restraints, and financial pressure. Phoebe was primarily a mum first and then had to carve out time from her life for art, and Julie started her art career first and then had to find a way to parent and still find time to create. We also answer a bunch of listener questions and share some fails.

Mentioned:

The Witch Trials of JK Rowling
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Fail from @paintings_by_caitlin

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www.juliebattisti.com

@juliebattisti

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www.phoebegander.com

@phoebeganderart

Podcast Website:

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Failing at Instagram Q&A's Feb 28, 2023

This week on the pod Phoebe and Julie have a follow up conversation about Instagram, this time answering listener questions. We chat about everything from scammers, bots, and fake followers to recording reels without cringing and choosing hashtags. As you can see this is quite a long episode, avd we still didn’t manage to answer every question that was submitted. If your question wasn’t answered we’re sorry! No doubt we will revisit this topic again as Instagram is an ever evolving platform so there will undoubtedly be new features and issues in the future. Hopefully this conversation will spark some ideas and put some concerns to rest, and there will be something in here for everyone to learn something new or put into practice!

Phoebe’s phone clamp for recording reels etc:

Apps for editing video: Splice, Inshott

Ask An Artist podcast

Episode on NFTs:

NZ Creators Instagram

March Meet The Maker

Fail: eviedavis_studio

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www.juliebattisti.com

@juliebattisti

Find Phoebe here:

www.phoebegander.com

@phoebeganderart

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Failing at Imposter Syndrome Feb 21, 2023

This week Julie and Phoebe discuss imposter syndrome. From feeling not good enough to feeling like a fake, the ways it has impacted us and our different strategies for overcoming it (or not).

This podcast was recorded on the eve of Cyclone Gabrielle hitting NZ. Clearly we didn’t have any idea about the kind of destruction it would have. If you’re wanting to donate, you can go to the red cross website:

Or if you’re an artist wanting to donate the proceeds of your work you can use the hashtag #artforcyclonerelief so that its easy to find and share!

Last week's fail from Jasmine Kroeze I forgot to add to the show notes. you can find her here: Jasmine.Kroeze

Mentioned in this episode:

Andy J Pizza :

Questions from:

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www.juliebattisti.com

@juliebattisti

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www.phoebegander.com

@phoebeganderart

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Failing at Instagram Feb 14, 2023

Julie & Phoebe discuss the changing instagram landscape, Phoebe talks about the ways she’s continuing her growth, tips like continuing to focus on quality captions and images, challenges. JB talks about researching tips and advice. We discuss the fallacy of thinking that followers = sales, and Phoebe shares a handy acronym to help you when thinking about what to post for maximum engagement. Plus the importance of two factor authentication & mailing lists.

Editing Apps Phoebe Used:

Instagram Challenges:

March Meet the Maker Challenge - @joannehawker #marchmeetthemaker
31 days of creative practice with @phoebeganderart #31daysofcreativepractice

Accounts worth checking out:

Product Recommendation:

Shop Canvas co

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www.juliebattisti.com

@juliebattisti : https://www.instagram.com/juliebattisti/

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www.phoebegander.com

@phoebeganderart : https://www.instagram.com/phoebeganderart/

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Failing at Varnishing Feb 07, 2023

Varnishing ; What you should do, when you should trial (always) and all the different fails.

Dust, Different brands, different processes, timing, panicking, removing varnish.. here’s to learning from our mistakes !

Questions from:

@Ian_Versace_artist

Mentioned : m

Find Julie here:

www.juliebattisti.com

@juliebattisti : https://www.instagram.com/juliebattisti/

Find Phoebe here:

www.phoebegander.com

@phoebeganderart : https://www.instagram.com/phoebeganderart/

Subscribe to the podcast here:

@faillikeandartist

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Failing at Exhibitions Jan 31, 2023

In this episode Phoebe and Julie talk about some of their exhibition failures. From location to sales, solo shows, art fairs & everything in between we chat about our fails and what we’ve learned.

Mentioned :

Find Julie here:

www.juliebattisti.com

@juliebattisti

Find Phoebe here:

www.phoebegander.com

@phoebeganderart

Subscribe to the podcast here:

@faillikeandartist

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Failing at Commissions Jan 24, 2023

Failing at commissions. It’s good to have a process, turns out that both Phoebe and Julie learned this the hard way. In this episode discuss a few failures around processes and approaches to collectors, what we’ve learned and the changes we still need to make!

See out mailing list for a list of commission recommendations: Mailing List

We share some a funny listener fail one anonymous listener and

@amymarcyart

Quotes from:

Samuel Beckett: "try again, fail again, fail Better"

Emily McDowell @emandfriends

Mentioned :

Susan Nethercote

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www.juliebattisti.com

@juliebattisti

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www.phoebegander.com

@phoebeganderart

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Failing at Art Education Jan 17, 2023

In episode two we’re talking about art education. Julie studied Visual Arts at University and Phoebe is largely self taught from online courses. We discussed how we both felt we’d failed in some ways with our choices, and what we learnt. Julie talks about what she regrets regarding her decision to go to art school and what she saw as being the biggest things she got out of it, and Phoebe discusses her feelings around not going to art school and how she found the online courses that she did instead.

Mentioned in this ep:

creative visionary program
Laura horn podcast and courses
ArtJuice podcast
‘Don’t go to art school’ by Noah Bradley - which has the 10k Ultimate Art Education guide.
Phoebe's 'Key to Colour Mixing' Course

We move on to sharing a funny listener fails from the following artist:

@katebradshaw

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www.juliebattisti.com

@juliebattisti

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www.phoebegander.com

@phoebeganderart

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Failing to find a style Jan 10, 2023

It's episode 1 of Fail Like An Artist! In today's episode, we are discussing the juicy and elusive topic of “finding your style” - Is it something you need to search for? Are you born with one? Is it ok for it to change? What's the difference between style and genre?? Julie chats about when she felt called to bring in a completely different subject matter, and how that affected her style and made her worry galleries would reject her. And Phoebe talks about her journey of trying many different types and styles of art from resin to still life and everything in between… and how led her to feel like a failure for not being able to stick at one. Then we share how we have ‘not failed’ - the things we have learnt and where we are at now.

We move on to sharing a funny listener fails from the following artists:

@marijkepoppema_art

@jensievers_art

@iamjaneputnam

Then have some words of wisdom from Jerry Saltz and Ira Glass

Mentioned :

Find Julie here:

www.juliebattisti.com

@juliebattisti

Find Phoebe here:

www.phoebegander.com

@phoebeganderart

Subscribe to the podcast here

@faillikeandartist

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Trailer Dec 15, 2022

What's it all about?

Failing, learning, and laughing. This trailer is just a little intro into what we'll be discussing on our podcast; how our failures in our creative process and lives have taught us valuable insights into how to progress (and how not to) as artists.

First episode drops Jan 11 2023, Subscribe now so you don't miss it!

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