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Exposing Scientology

Mike Rinder, prominent whistleblower, exposes the abuses of the church of scientology through personal stories, interviews and scrutiny of current affairs. Mike spent 34 years working at the top ranks of the church of scientology and was directly involved with the inner workings of their spy unit: the Office of Special Affairs. He left the church in 2007 and has been exposing the abuses of this cult since 2009. Mike co-hosted the popular Emmy winning TV show, Leah Remini, Scientology and the Aftermath, the podcast “Fair Game” and is also the author of the book “A Billion Years, My Escape from a Life in the Highest Ranks of Scientology. ”

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Brendan Tighe, A "Young Sea Org Member" Jul 09, 2024

Brendan Tighe was born and raised in Scientology. By age five he was a cadet in the Sea Organization and went on to work in the Office of Special Affairs, the Renovations Organization and as a Security Guard at the Flag Land Base. In this conversation between Christie and Brendan he shares interesting stories from his life in Scientology including interactions he had with David and Shelly Miscavige.

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Valerie Ross, Part Two: How Scientology Protects Domestic Abusers Jul 02, 2024

Valerie was a former Scientologist who worked in the Guardians office and was a spy planted in the FBI by Scientology. In this episode, she talks about her abusive relationship with her ex-husband, how Scientology protected him and how she finally escaped. This is a horrifying story of abuse, bravery and resilience.
Listen to Part one here.
Read more about Valerie's story here:
https://tonyortega.org/category/scientology/valerieross/#google_vignette

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Sarah Edmonson & Nippy Ames: NXIVM Survivors Jun 25, 2024

Mike talks with Sarah and Nippy who escaped the NXIVM cult and were featured in the HBO documentary, The Vow. They now host A Little Bit Culty podcast shining a light on cult-like groups and environments, and helping victims recover. We highly recommend Sarah's best selling book,Scarred, and her Ted talk, How To Spot a Cult.

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Ian Rafalko "Raised in Scientology" Jun 18, 2024

Ian Rafalko was raised in a prominent Scientology family. He joined staff at Atlanta “ideal org” and married a scientologist. Eventually he broke free, lost his wife and family and spoke out in a viral TikTok about his father Dr. Eric Berg. Ian shares about his time in the church and how he has moved forward in life since leaving scientology.

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Karen Pressley, Author and Former Sea Org Executive Jun 11, 2024

Karen Pressley is a former Sea Org member who worked directly with David Miscavige at the international scientology base, and was in charge of the Celebrity Centre. She shares how she got into scientology, stories about her experiences in the Sea Org, how she purged scientology from her mind and what she has been up to since leaving.

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Former BBC Producer, Sarah Mole Jun 04, 2024

Sarah Mole was the BBC Panorama producer that Mike came to know through her work on their two scientology episodes. In the first, Mike was a spokesman for the cult, in the second, he was a whistleblower. Sarah talks about what impressions Scientology and Mike made on her and the strange journey they have traveled from antagonists to friends.

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Scientology's Big "Blood on Your Hands" Lie Exposed May 31, 2024

Breaking down the facts that have now been revealed proving scientology was lying (and KNEW it) when they claimed Leah Remini and Mike Rinder had "incited" the murder of a scientology security guard in Australia in 2019. They had ALL the facts, but until now, they had remained secret. Their brazen lying relied on the documents that have now come to light never being public.

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Valerie Ross: Scientology Spy in the FBI May 28, 2024

Valerie shares about her time in the Guardian's Office, learning what Hubbard wrote about espionage, and then putting this into practice as a spy employed in the Los Angeles office of the FBI. We also talk about her interactions with L. Ron Hubbard, Mary Sue and Diana.
Read more about Valerie's story here:
https://tonyortega.org/category/scientology/valerieross/#google_vignette

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Rick Moxon: Scientology's Fair Game Poster Child May 23, 2024

High level scientologist and lawyer Kendrick (Rick) Moxon is an operative who has been carrying out scientology Fair Game activities since the mid-1970's, and he continues to this day. He was recently caught trying to frame Leah Remini for "inciting violence" against scientology but it backfired spectacularly.
The documents referred to in this discussion are available at Mike's blog here: https://www.mikerindersblog.org/new-l...

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Scientology Finally Admits Disconnection is Real May 21, 2024

Mike Rinder, Christie Collbran, Claire Headley & Marc Headley discuss the significance of the new PR position of scientology with respect to disconnection, the euphemism they have come up with to describe it, and the actual practice and personal experiences of this abusive policy of scientology. This episode originally aired on YouTube.

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Michele Adair: Former Navy Mental Health Counselor May 15, 2024

Mike speaks with Michele Adair, who was a Mental Health Counselor in the Navy for 11 years and is now married to Rachael Hastings, one of David Miscavige's former camerawomen. Michelle shares helpful information and advice from her years of providing therapy to people who have been traumatized.

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Phil Jones: Scientology in Canada Jan 30, 2024

Phil Jones, of the "Call Me" billboard joins Mike Rinder to discuss the state of scientology in Canada and their continued violation of minimum wage laws.
You can reach Phil at: https://stopscientologydisconnection....
Also see undercover investigation of Quebec Org here: https://tonyortega.substack.com/p/und...
The documents referred to in this video are available at Mike's blog: https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scien...

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Scientology Safe-pointing with Alex Barnes-Ross Jan 23, 2024

Recent events with the Mayor of East Grinstead accepting a check from scientology and attending a Tom Cruise movie premiere highlight the efforts of scientology to build a wall of protection for itself. Elected officials and law enforcement are rubbing shoulders with an organization actively engaged in human trafficking and other abuses. They should know who they are enabling. Alex Barnes-Ross (Apostate Alex) has been digging in and exposing the facts to the world.
Check out Alex's excellent website here: https://www.scientologybusiness.com/
You can also find him on X: / apostatealex
To find copies of the documents mentioned in this episode visit Mike's blog:

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Leah & Mike on Emotional Terrorism in Scientology Jan 18, 2024

Leah and Mike break down the emotional terrorism that is inherent in scientology based on a recent article in Psychology Today.
Find a link to the article and other things mentioned at my blog post: https://www.mikerindersblog.org/leah-...

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Proof Scientology Forbids Reporting to Outside Authorities Jan 10, 2024

Marc & Claire Headly and Mike reveal for the first time yet another smoking gun document proving scientology lies to the media and courts.
For more information on this episode and copies of the documents visit Mike's blog: https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-com...
The Taylor Holley dissertation on scientology being in violation of public policy: https://www.mikerindersblog.org/audit...

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Scientology Stacks Their Phony Arbitration Deck Jan 03, 2024

Marc & Claire Headley and Mike dive into the Alice in Wonderland world of scientology "arbitration" -- and in particular the "arbitrators" scientology chose for Valerie Haney's recent nightmare experience. Marc, Claire & Mike personally know each of them well and share the details.
For more information on this episode and the subject of scientology "arbitration" in general, visit Mike's blog: https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scien...

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Get Mike's book: "A Billion Years: My Escape from a Life in the Highest Ranks of Scientology" on Amazon.
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Tom Cruise & David Beckham: Behind the Scenes Dec 26, 2023

Mike Rinder and Marc Headley talk about the history of Tom Cruise's efforts to woo David and Victoria Beckham into scientology, why this was considered so important and why Cruise failed so miserably. Mike and Marc were both in on the ground floor for much of this and share behind the scenes details.
To see the documents and videos referred to in this episode, visit Mike's blog: https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tom-c...

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Get Mike's book: "A Billion Years: My Escape from a Life in the Highest Ranks of Scientology" on Amazon.
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Scientology Declares Danny Masterson a Suppressive Person Dec 21, 2023

Breaking news from Jeffrey Augustine, who joins Mike Rinder, Marc & Claire Headley to talk about the latest in the Masterson saga.
See Jeff's story at Scientology Money Project: https://scientologymoneyproject.com/2...

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Secret Scientology Document: Fair Game Proof Dec 19, 2023

Listen to the proof of scientology's fair game harassment activities as Leah and Mike dissect a secret scientology program written to intimidate a whistleblower into silence.
Find the documents and the Hubbard references here: https://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=26...

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Victim is a Dirty Word Dec 13, 2023

Leah and Mike explain how scientology views and treats victims of abuse and crimes and why it is so difficult to break the chains of indoctrination and agreement within the organization.
To see copies of the documents referred to in this episode, go to mikerindersblog.org.

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Get Mike's book: "A Billion Years: My Escape from a Life in the Highest Ranks of Scientology" on Amazon.
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Rosemary Chicwak: Elder Abuse in Scientology Dec 06, 2023

Rosemary Chicwak reached and asked to speak about the elder abuse in Scientology. Hearing her experiences first-hand adds to the outrage of these abuses.
To see the letter referred to go to my blog: https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scien...

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Mike Brown: Rampant, Horrifying, Elder Abuse in Scientology Part 2 Nov 29, 2023

Mike Rinder & Claire Headley continue their shocking interview with Mike Brown about the horrific treatment of his mother, Rosemary, now 77, in the Sea Org, and how, with the help of the Aftermath Foundation he managed to get her out.
In Part 2, Mike Brown shares the incredible details of exactly how they helped Rosemary escape and how she is doing now. Mike, Mike & Claire also answer listener questions.
To see the documents we discuss in this episode, go to Mike's blog: https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scien...

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Get Mike's book: "A Billion Years: My Escape from a Life in the Highest Ranks of Scientology" on Amazon.
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Mike Brown: Rampant, Horrifying Elder Abuse in Scientology Part 1 Nov 22, 2023

Mike Rinder & Claire Headley talk to Mike Brown about the horrific treatment of his mother, Rosemary, now 77, in the Sea Org, and how, with the help of the Aftermath Foundation he managed to get her out.
The details of what was done to her (and others) will make you angry and wonder how this sort of blatant and widespread mistreatment is allowed to occur in a civilized society.

Persons of Interest

From murderers to money launderers, thieves to thugs – police officers from the...

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Get Mike's book: "A Billion Years: My Escape from a Life in the Highest Ranks of Scientology" on Amazon.
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Rachael Hastings, Former Camerawoman of David Miscavige, Part 2 Nov 15, 2023

Rachael recounts her personal experiences as scientology tried to "cure" her of being gay.
She explains what it was like working directly for Miscavige, including that his $10,000 per day hair and make up people were not allowed to be gay, and the absolute insanity of what had to be done to make his hair look "perfect" for photos and video. It's some ridiculously crazy stuff.

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From murderers to money launderers, thieves to thugs – police officers from the...

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Get Mike's book: "A Billion Years: My Escape from a Life in the Highest Ranks of Scientology" on Amazon.
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Rachael Hastings, Former Camerawomen of David Miscavige, Part 1 Nov 11, 2023

Rachael Hastings was a Sea Org member at Scientology Media Productions, and a favored camerawoman of David Miscavige. As part of an "ethics handling" for being gay, she was required to interrogate a man who admitted to molesting young girls -- scientology officials refused to report this to the appropriate authorities or even kick him out of the Sea Org.
Due to algorithms and policies we have deleted the name of the perpetrator and some of the details from the interview. They can be found on Mike's blog here: https://www.mikerindersblog.org/anoth...

Persons of Interest

From murderers to money launderers, thieves to thugs – police officers from the...

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Get Mike's book: "A Billion Years: My Escape from a Life in the Highest Ranks of Scientology" on Amazon.
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Leah's Meeting with the LAPD Chief Nov 10, 2023

Leah Remini and Claire Headley met with LAPD Chief Moore after social media pressure shamed him into it. The LAPD has given Scientology preferential treatment, and met with Danny Masterson's attorneys. Leah and Claire hoped to educate the LAPD on the truth about Scientology. They describe how the meeting went and a lot more.

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Get Mike's book: "A Billion Years: My Escape from a Life in the Highest Ranks of Scientology" on Amazon.
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How Scientology Covers Up Crimes Nov 06, 2023

Leah & Mike expose the lies of scientology claiming they have no policy preventing anyone from reporting crimes to law enforcement. Read the policies for yourself and hear how scientology prevents perpetrators of crimes from facing justice.
See the full documents at Mikerindersblog.org.

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Get Mike's book: "A Billion Years: My Escape from a Life in the Highest Ranks of Scientology" on Amazon.
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Leah & Mike Talk Masterson Verdict Oct 27, 2023

Scientology celebrity, Danny Masterson, was sentenced to life in prison for the rape of women who reported these crimes to the Church of Scientology while they were all members. Scientology does not believe in reporting such crimes to law enforcement or any agency outside of Scientology. As a result the crimes were covered up. The victims fought for many years to see justice served. Leah Remini was in court for Masterson's sentencing. She brings her unique perspective as to how it unfolded.
See the letter from Jane Doe 1's mother at Leah's Substack: https://leahremini.substack.com/p/dav...

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Leah & Mike Are Back! Oct 27, 2023

Let the fun begin again!
Leah Remini and Mike Rinder are back, talking all things scientology. We discuss what happened to the Fair Game podcast and why it came to an abrupt ending. We also have some scientology documents that you need to hear about. You can find full copies of the documents we reference in this video at mikerindersblog.org.

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