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#49 Kendrick Dane: law, advocacy and the National Parks Service vs BASE jumping Apr 23, 2024

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In this episode, Laurent is joined by Kendrick Dane, a licensed attorney and BASE jumper. They explore the evolving world of BASE jumping, its legal battles, community spirit, and the pursuit of freedom through human flight.

Kendrick is also General Counsel for the advocacy group BASE Access, whose mission is to preserve and open site access on public lands within the United States. Kendrick and Laurent discuss the challenges and hopes of legalizing BASE jumping in national parks, Kendrick’s journey through law and adventure sports, and the pivotal role of community and respect in advancing the future of BASE jumping.

This episode is a dense discussion about the intersection of law, advocacy for our sport, and the culture war the National Park Service has waged against BASE jumping.
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Producers: Laurent Frat, Matt Blank, Mark Stockwell
Host: Matt Blank
Sound mixing: Mark Stockwell
Music credit: Staccato Strings by Andreas Beats
Timestamps:

00:41 Exploring the Legal Landscape of BASE Jumping

01:01 Advocacy, Culture, and the Future of BASE Jumping

00:00 Welcome to Exit Point: Diving into BASE Jumping Culture

00:28 Meet Kendrick Dain: Attorney and BASE Jumper

01:01 The Legal Landscape of BASE Jumping in the US

03:10 Exploring the Challenges of Legalizing BASE Jumping

03:46 Kendrick's Journey: From Legal Troubles to BASE Jumping

12:35 The Evolution of BASE Jumping and Its Community

17:59 Navigating Legal Access to National Parks for BASE Jumping

32:22 The Administrative Procedures Act and Its Impact

48:52 Exploring the Wilderness Act and Its Impact

49:26 The Intricacies of Rulemaking and Executive Orders

51:29 The Role of Tenure in Federal Employment

54:48 Navigating the Legal Landscape for Base Jumping

55:03 The Struggle for Base Jumping Permits

01:01:02 Cultural Evolution and Legal Challenges in Base Jumping

01:06:19 The Path to Legalizing Base Jumping in National Parks

01:22:34 Community and Personal Motivations Behind Base Jumping

01:26:41 Legal Advice for Base Jumpers in Gray Areas

01:32:09 Closing Thoughts on the Future of Base Jumping

#48 - Avery Badenhop, Dennis McGlynn, and Harry Parker: Team Ill Vision Mar 15, 2024

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In this episode, Matt Blank talks with Avery Badenhop, Dennis McGlynn, and Harry Parker, who were known during the 90s as the “three-headed dragon” of BASE and founders of the infamous Team Ill Vision. This team has been a timeless model for outlaw extreme sports gangs living an endless summer lifestyle. The leader of Team Ill Vision, Avery, is the quintessential counterculture athlete, creating a unique lifestyle that would inspire generations of jumpers to go all in and totally cut away from the mainstream. Dennis McGlynn, one of the first jumpers to perform BASE stunts for film and television, is also a pioneer of manufacturing BASE-specific gear. He was one of the original FJC instructors and the first to be prosecuted by the federal government for BASE jumping. Harry Parker, the man with the perspective, has been an active jumper and photographer for more than three decades, participating in and capturing some of our community’s historic moments. Harry helped put a face and voice to the BASE jumping lifestyle. Their team created a culture around the pursuit of BASE jumping, opening the first public events, competitions, and demonstrations. Their access efforts helped open jumps on BLM land, the Perrine Bridge, and recrafted Bridge Day in West Virginia, as well as forged paths to international BASE events, which have continued to grow over several decades.

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Producers: Laurent Frat, Matt Blank, Mark Stockwell
Host: Matt Blank
Sound mixing: Mark Stockwell
Music credit: Staccato Strings by Andreas Beats
Timestamps:

00:39 Avery Badenhop: The Counterculture Athlete 00:51 Dennis McGlynn: Pioneer of BASE Stunts and Gear 01:07 Harry Parker: The Man with the Perspective 01:22 Creating a Culture Around BASE Jumping 03:23 The Evolution of BASE Jumping Gear and Techniques 09:22 The Dark and Dangerous Early Days of BASE Jumping 24:55 The Transition to Legal and Sponsored BASE Jumping Events 28:52 The Art of BASE Jumping: Performance, Evolution, and Community 40:49 Cliff Camp '94: A Pivotal Moment in BASE Jumping History 44:14 The Legal Battle Over Aerial Delivery 46:47 The Cliff Camp Incident: A Tragic Turning Point 50:06 Learning from Mistakes: The Importance of Gear Awareness 54:07 From Legal Battles to Building a BASE Jumping Legacy 57:29 The Rise of Team Ill Vision and BASE Jumping Competitions 01:09:47 Navigating the World of Sponsorship and Event Organization 01:21:19 The Impact of Legal Troubles on Personal Life and the Sport 01:25:01 Surviving and Thriving in BASE Jumping: Lessons Learned 01:33:48 The Evolution of Safety and Community in BASE Jumping 01:34:00 The Shift in BASE Jumping Culture: From Tight Crews to Independence 01:34:30 Finding Community and Collaboration in a Solo Sport 01:36:13 The Challenges and Rewards of BASE Jumping Hiatus 01:38:24 Identity and Lifestyle: The Essence of Being a BASE Jumper 01:41:17 The Double-Edged Sword of Currency in BASE Jumping 01:54:03 The Impact of Gear and Training on BASE Jumping Sustainability 01:57:40 The Role of Community and Mentorship in BASE Jumping 02:08:26 Reflecting on Careers, Sacrifices, and Gifts in BASE Jumping

#47 – Marshall Miller: Saying yes, importance of patience in high risk sports, and balancing family w/ adventure Feb 15, 2024

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In this episode, Laurent welcomes Marshall Miller. Marshall has inspired both jumpers and the public with his epic videos from his early days to his recent projects, including his appearance in Line of Sight (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcWMZq8-3wI), shout-out to the KAVU boys for producing what we believe is one of the most incredible wingsuit BASE jumping videos ever made. Marshall, a pioneer in the world of professional BASE jumping, was one of GoPro's first sponsored athletes and has played a pivotal role in shaping the community. He candidly shares his experiences, including his brush with the law in Zion National Park and the absurdity of the National Park Services' enforcement. We delve into the crucial role of patience in high-risk sports, the potential pitfalls of group mentality, and the valuable lessons learned from walking down.
Marshall's Zion episode with Outside
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#46 - Jonathan Cox: A New World Record Jan 29, 2024

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In this episode, Matt Blank interviews John Cox, a mostly self-taught BASE jumper who recently shattered the world record for "Most BASE jumps in 24 hours". He surpassed the previous record holders (Miles Daisher and Danny Weiland) at the end of 2023 with an outstanding performance, completing more than 100 jumps off the Perrine Bridge in Twin Falls, Idaho. We talk to him about his progression in BASE, his training for the world record attempt, and what it was like during the grueling 24-hour slog to accomplish his childhood dream of being in the Guinness Book of World Records.

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#45 Laurent Frat, Matt Blank and Mark Stockwell: Exit Point team round table Jan 12, 2024

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In this episode, the Exit Point team holds a round table discussion about how we've been doing and where we hope to go. This episode also celebrates a milestone in our podcast. Sometime last year, thanks to all of you out there, we passed 100,000 downloads and have since blown past that. Thank you all for listening and supporting us by sharing the podcast, leaving us reviews, and donating so that we can continue producing the show.
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#44 - Dan Darby: wingsuit progression, survival, training and racing Dec 19, 2023

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In this episode, Matt and Laurent interview Dan Darby. Dan has been skydiving and BASE jumping for over fifteen years. He's a competitive wingsuit skydiver, BASE jumper, and a member of the US parachute team for wingsuit performance flying.

He's also a co-founder of Arcus Flight wingsuit school in DeLand, Florida, and a multidisciplinary skydiving and wind tunnel instructor. In this episode, Dan talks about wingsuit progression, survival tactics, training techniques for performance flying and the new wingsuit BASE race he created in Sass Pordoi, Italy.
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#42 - Scott Palmer: free fall legend, adventurer and 3rd generation aviator Oct 31, 2023

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In this episode, Laurent is joined by Scott Palmer. Scott, also known as Plamer, is a 3rd generation aviator, was a forward air controller with the US Air Force and after serving in Iraq, he went on to pursue a career in skydiving. With over 15 years in the sport and over 11,000 skydives, Scott traveled the world competing and became one of the world’s most sought-after tunnel coaches.

He has multiple world records and championship titles and has been involved in a ton of amazing aerial stunts, including appearing on Nitro Circus.

After reaching what might be the pinnacle of skydiving, Plamer changed his focus from flying his body to flying airplanes. He now is an aerial firefighter for the US federal government.

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#41 - Yuri Kuznetsov: surviving and thriving in the world of BASE Oct 18, 2023

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In this episode, Laurent sits down with Yuri Kuznetsov.
Yuri made his first skydive when he was 13 years old, his first BASE jump in 1994 with skydiving gear, and has since made thousands of jumps. He has been active in urban, terminal, wingsuiting, sliderdown, you name it - to say that he is experienced is a massive understatement.
We're looking forward to hearing some of his stories from back in the day, how his motivations around BASE have changed over the years, and talk about how he has remained so resilient
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#40 - Brian Germain: A Parachute And Its Pilot Sep 28, 2023

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In this episode, Matt Blank interviews Brian Germain. Brian is a career educator with a master's degree in sports psychology and a groundbreaking parachute engineer and test pilot. Brian has authored numerous critically acclaimed books, including The Parachute and Its Pilot.
https://briangermain.company.site/
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#39 - Luke Rogers: wingsuit performance, training and mindset Sep 12, 2023

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In this episode, Laurent speaks with Luke Rogers, a professional wingsuit pilot from Australia. He's won multiple national titles, podiumed at various world championships, and was the first person in the world to flare a wingsuit over 100 meters. Luke is constantly training, competing, and coaching at wingsuit events.

He's incredibly generous with all his tips and tricks regarding flying wingsuits. This conversation is packed with info about maximizing performance.

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