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Episode 45 (Bonus): How the Beatles really got booked on "The Ed Sullivan Show" Jun 20, 2023

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This week's guests are Margo Precht Speciale and Andrew Solt, who join host Kenneth Womack for a special episode devoted to celebrating the 75th anniversary of The Ed Sullivan Show and its lasting impact on American culture, including Beatles fandom.

The granddaughter of Ed Sullivan, Precht is a documentary filmmaker, as well as a UCLA graduate with a degree in Sociology. Her latest project traces her grandfather's life and work as a television pioneer who reigned as the medium's longtime tastemaker. In particular, Precht's documentary explores a little-known aspect of Sullivan's legacy, which involves his radical dedication to diversity that would act as an inflection point for igniting conversations about race in America.

Andrew Solt is an Emmy- and Grammy-winning, producer, director, writer and documentary filmmaker. Over the years, Solt has released a number of documentaries on the history of rock and roll. His collaboration with television documentarian and producer David Wolper included their work together on "Imagine: John Lennon" in 1988. In 1990, Solt purchased the rights to The Ed Sullivan Show library, which consists of 1,087 hours of kinescopes and videotapes that CBS broadcast between 1948 and 1971 on Sunday nights. Included in the archive are over 10,000 live performances by virtually every popular entertainer of the post-war era, highlighted by appearances from Elvis Presley and the Beatles.

Episode 44: The Boxmasters, Billy Bob Thornton and J.D. Andrew Jun 13, 2023

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On this episode, the Boxmasters — an American rock band comprised of Grammy Award-winning recording engineer J.D. Andrew and Academy Award-winning actor Billy Bob Thornton — join host Ken Womack for a spirited discussion of songwriting, recording, and what Thornton says is "the most difficult thing about being a Beatles fan."

Formed in 2007, the Boxmasters have recorded a diverse catalog of music that touches on their shared love of the rock and roll of the 1960s. Listening to The Boxmasters, one can hear obvious odes to the Beatles, Byrds and Beach Boys, but also The Mothers of Invention, Kris Kristofferson, John Prine and Big Star.

Since the formation of The Boxmasters, several long-time friends have contributed to the sound of the band, but the core of The Boxmasters has always been Andrew and Thornton. As primary songwriters, the sound of the Boxmasters has been an evolution as the duo constantly strive to find new inspiration, new sounds and new means of expression.

As a touring band, The Boxmasters have cultivated a rabid fanbase across the United States and Canada. Opening for the likes of ZZ Top, Steve Miller, George Thorogood and Kid Rock, their touring highlights include appearances at Levon Helm's "Midnight Ramble" in Woodstock, New York, a performance at "Ramble at The Ryman" in 2008, and "The Grand Ole Opry" in 2015. Their 14th and latest album is entitled '69, with an ensuing tour that includes a stop at Monmouth University's Pollak Theatre in June 2023.

Episode 43: Jazz guitarist Dan Wilson on urgency in "Eleanor Rigby" and what genius actually looks like May 30, 2023

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Ken Womack's guest this week is Grammy-nominated American jazz guitarist Dan Wilson. Hailing from Akron, Ohio, Wilson made his recording debut with pianist Joe McBride and performed to worldwide acclaim with Joey DeFrancesco and Christian McBride's Tip City, eventually recording his debut as a band leader with "To Whom It May Concern" in 2012. Over the years, Wilson has shared the stage with a host of jazz greats including Eric Marienthal, Russell Malone, Les McCann, René Marie, Jeff Hamilton, David Sanborn and Dave Stryker. In 2017, Wilson earned a Grammy nomination for his work on DeFrancesco's "Project Freedom" album. He also served as a guitarist on Van Morrison's recent albums "You're Driving Me Crazy" and "The Prophet Speaks."

In 2021, Wilson released "Vessels of Wood and Earth," which includes the standout cut "Who Shot John." The album was produced by McBride for his Brother Mister Productions label. In 2022, Wilson was named a Letter Rising Stars Jazz Winner. His latest LP, "Things Eternal," features his innovate take on the Beatles' "Eleanor Rigby."

Episode 42: Madison Cunningham: "It's really hard to write a joyful song well" May 16, 2023

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In this episode, Ken Womack talks with Grammy Award-winning singer-songwriter Madison Cunningham. She made her recording debut in 2014 with the self-released gospel album "Authenticities," which reflected her exploration of faith. In 2017, Cunningham joined the cast of American Public Media's "Live from Here." In 2019, she released her breakthrough LP "Who Are You Now," nominated for the Best Americana Album Grammy. Her 2020 EP, "Wednesday," featured cover versions of songs by Tom Waits, Radiohead and the Beatles, while also earning a Grammy nod for Best Folk Album. In 2022, she released her follow-up LP "Revealer," which enjoyed extensive critical acclaim. "Revealer" was nominated for two Grammy Awards and won Best Folk Album.

Episode 41: Ian Hunter of Mott the Hoople on the Beatles, playing with Ringo and how to follow a David Bowie hit May 02, 2023

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Legendary singer-songwriter, author, and rock 'n' roll star Ian Hunter's illustrious career is now in its seventh decade. His rock 'n' roll life has long been marked by collaboration, from the golden age of Mott the Hoople to his fabled partnership with Mick Ronson and 21st-century renaissance with his crack backing combo, the Rant Band. Over the years, Hunter has enjoyed numerous chart successes, especially Mott the Hoople's international hit "All the Young Dudes," the David Bowie composition that emerged as a countercultural anthem in the 1970s. Hunter would later recount the trials and tribulations of his life with Mott the Hoople in his autobiography "Diary of a Rock 'n' Roll Star."

During his solo career, Hunter's best known work includes the song "Once Bitten, Twice Shy", later covered by Great White, and "Cleveland Rocks," (originally "England Rocks") the popular theme song for "The Drew Carey Show."

With his latest album DEFIANCE PART 1, Hunter takes creative solidarity to an unprecedented new level with accompaniment from a truly awe-inspiring roster of special guests, famous fans, and lifelong friends. DEFIANCE PART 1 sees backing from luminaries such as Ringo Starr, Jeff Beck, Todd Rundgren, Joe Elliott (of Def Leppard), Guns N' Roses' Slash, Jeff Tweedy and – in one of his final recordings – the Foo Fighters' late, great drummer Taylor Hawkins.

Episode 40: With guest Barbara Feldon, Agent 99 on "Get Smart" Apr 18, 2023

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This episode's guest is Barbara Feldon, a model, author and actress best known for portraying "Agent 99" on the classic '60s sitcom "Get Smart."

Feldon was born Barbara Anne Hall in a suburb of Pittsburgh and studied drama at Carnegie Mellon University. Soon after, she departed for New York City to pursue a career in acting, where a stint as a showgirl led to her appearance on the game show, "The $64,000 Question," where she took home the top prize for her knowledge of Shakespeare. The next year, Barbara married Lucien Feldon-Verdeaux, a handsome European she'd been dating, and took "Feldon" as her last name personally and professionally. Working as a fashion model led to a few TV ad spots before landing the one that would make her a household face, lolling about on an animal rug and daring all the male "tigers" out there to try Revlon's Top Brass hair tonic. That led to securing the plum role of Agent 99 in the spy spoof "Get Smart" opposite comedian Don Adams. The role became Feldon's biggest break, leading to an Emmy nomination and several film roles to boot. In more recent years, Feldon has written two books: 2003's "Living Alone and Loving It: A Guide to Relishing the Solo Life" and, in 2022, "Getting Smarter: A Memoir," which recounts for the first time the true story of her marriage and the many lessons she's learned since.

Episode 39: Kenny Loggins on the "electricity" of the Beatles and creating anthems for "Caddyshack," "Footloose" and "Top Gun" Apr 04, 2023

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On this episode, host Kenneth Womack welcomes Grammy winner Kenny Loggins, whose songs have left a musical imprint on "the soundtrack of our lives." Over the last four decades, his chart-topping songs have included "This Is It," "I'm Alright," "Footloose," "Danger Zone," and so many more. "Danger Zone" was featured once again in Paramount's "Top Gun: Maverick," the biggest theatrical release of 2022, earning over $1.5B in box offices globally. "Danger Zone" earned over 1 million streams per day across streaming services at its peak. On June 14, 2022, Hachette Books published "Still Alright," Loggins' long-awaited memoir. In "Still Alright," Loggins gives fans a candid and entertaining perspective on his life and career as one of the most noteworthy musicians of the 1970s and '80s. In addition to his string of successful recordings, both solo and as a member of the famed duo Loggins & Messina, Kenny became the first major rock star to dedicate himself to recording music for children and families. His album "Return to Pooh Corner" remains the best-selling children's album of the last 20 years. His gift for crafting deeply emotional music is unparalleled, and it's been a part of his life as long as he can remember. His generous support of countless local organizations has made a lasting impact on the causes that are close to his heart. And in 2016, he was a recipient of the ASCAP Harry Chapin Humanitarian Award at the annual Chapin Awards hosted by WhyHunger.

Episode 38: Pattie Boyd on falling for George Harrison and why "you can't grasp" the intensity of Beatles fame Mar 21, 2023

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Pattie Boyd is an English model, photographer, and an eyewitness to key moments in rock 'n' roll history, particularly in terms of the lives and times of the former members of the Beatles, especially George Harrison. In 1962, Boyd began her modeling career, later appearing on the covers of Vogue and other leading magazines. In 1964, she met Harrison while working as an extra on the set of "A Hard Day's Night." After moving in together at Harrison's Kinfauns home in Esher, Boyd and Harrison married in January 1966.

Boyd was a regular fixture in the Beatles' lives, attending the June 1967 Our World live simulcast and joining them in Rishikesh, India, for the group's February 1968 visit to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's ashram. In 1970, Boyd and Harrison relocated to Friar Park, the former Beatle's enormous Victorian mansion in Henley-on-Thames. By 1973, the Harrisons' relationship was disintegrating. In 1974, the couple separated, with Boyd later marrying Harrison's longtime friend and collaborator Eric Clapton, who had nurtured a long-running passion for the model.

Over the years, Harrison had written numerous songs for Boyd, including the top-charting Beatles hit "Something." In 1970, Boyd was the subject of the legendary Derek and the Dominos' album "Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs." The album's title track describes Clapton's unrequited love for Boyd. Clapton later composed the Top 20 U.S. hit "Wonderful Tonight" with Boyd as his inspiration.

In 2007, Boyd published her best-selling autobiography entitled "Wonderful Tonight: George Harrison, Eric Clapton, and Me." In 2022, she published her latest book, "Pattie Boyd: My Life in Pictures."

Episode 37: Hayley Orrantia on authenticity, inspiration and "Sgt. Pepper's" Dec 20, 2022

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Today's guest is Hayley Orrantia, an American singer and actress known for her role in the hit TV show "The Goldbergs." The show follows the hilarious and awkward lives of a colorful, suburban family in Jenkintown, Pennsylvania in the 1980s. Orrantia is a scene stealer as Erica, the eldest Goldberg sibling, who fans have watched transform from a socially awkward, nerdy high schooler to popular, college-aged beauty who drops out of school to form a band with her girlfriends. In film, Orrantia most recently starred in Amazon/Lionsgate's holiday comedy "Christmas is Cancelled" alongside Dermot Mulroney and Janel Parrish.

Born and raised in Texas, Orrantia discovered her love of performing at nine years old, performing impromptu concerts in her bedroom. Now Orrantia is widely recognized as a successful independent music artist, who draws on inspiration from all genres to create soulful country-pop. In 2018, Orrantia conducted her first headlining tour, the Strong, Sweet and Southern Tour, hitting 22 cities across the United States.

On this episode of "Everything Fab Four," host Kenneth Womack and Orrantia discuss covering iconic songs like "Maybe I'm Amazed," her search for authenticity as an artist, working with the late George Segal, and how Lindsay Lohan's "The Parent Trap" introduced her to the Beatles.

Episode 36: Dougie Payne of Travis on how, as a second-generation fan, the Beatles become "part of your DNA" Dec 06, 2022

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In this episode, bassist Dougie Payne of Travis joins host Kenneth Womack to talk about his Beatles influence, the 20th anniversary of "The Invisible Band" and why "everyone needs their own Mal Evans." The Scottish band, originally named Glass Onion after the famous "White Album" song, was formed in 1990 and later took its name from a character in the movie "Paris, Texas." Payne learned to play bass and joined the band, also providing background vocals. Growing up, he says the Beatles were "always there," having had three older sisters who loved music and one who was a "Beatles obsessive." As he says, the Beatles' music "has a way of becoming part of your DNA."

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