Either Side Eaters

BONUS: Burnt Toast: I Draw the Line at Tongue May 22, 2023

We invite chef, bakery owner, and cookbook author Allison Robicelli on our show to talk about all manner of strange food: What constitutes strange, the craziest things we’ve ever eaten, and how we feel about all of it. Things get weird.

[BONUS] Foo-foo for Fufu With Ego Nwodim, Femi Kuti & Made Kuti May 18, 2023

Self-proclaimed fufu-head Peter J. Kim sits down with comedian Ego Nwodim and Afrobeat pioneers Femi and Made Kuti to discuss ultimate jollof, Nigerian religi-pop, and the beloved ball of cooked starch that goes by many names.

Find more Counterjam episodes here; season 2 will look at Mexican, Jewish, Ethiopian, and French food and music; featuring guests like Broad City creator Ilana Glazer, comedian Felipe Esparza, and Top Chef favorite Mory Sacko. It's an absolute audible feast—wee hope to see you there!

The Evolution of Kitchen Appliances With Emmy Cho May 04, 2023

Co-hosts Katie (@QKatie) and Jen (@JenEatsLife) discuss the transformation of the modern-day kitchen as we know it: from the Industrial Revolution's impact on the woman's "place" in the kitchen, to how domestic duties have evolved over time. They also discuss their shared adoration for cooking infomercials with YouTuber Emmy Cho (@EmmyMade).

Referenced in this episode:

The 100-year evolution of 9 kitchen appliances (HomeAdvisor)
Rural cooking channels: Dianxi Xiaoge, Traditional Me
Vintage kitchen films: A Step Saving Kitchen, 1949; It Happened in the Kitchen, Part 2 - ca. 1941
Japanese modern kitchen features: check out this fish drawer (!) and microwave-oven combo
Emmy's Tangerine Bao recipe and vintage mayo gadget
Moley's robotic kitchen

Specials thanks to Danielle for your question, and Brian Quinn (@bqfunk) for our theme music.

That's a wrap on season 1! We'll be interviewing Counterjam host Peter J. Kim live on Clubhouse at 1:30pm PDT on 7/14. Hope to see you there (and answer some of your questions)!

It Takes Two to Mango With Ravneet Gill May 04, 2023

A few years ago, Katie got cancelled over a video on mango con chile. Why? Katie and Jen talk about the cultural appropriation in food; how to share excitement over "discovery" of new foods sensitively; and the importance of better, more diverse representation in media.

They're later joined by pastry chef and The Pastry Chef's Guide author Ravneet Gill, who shares a wealth of mango inspo—including a hot tip for stellar mangoes year-round.

P.S. Here's the NSFW mango TikTok mango hack Jen mentions.

P.P.S. And, Ravneet's Mango Mousse recipe from her book, The Pastry Chef's Guide to make this weekend.

Special thanks to our listeners for your questions and Brian Quinn (@bqfunk) for our theme music.

Got a Q for us? Record a voice memo and send it here for a chance to be featured!

The Best Chili Oil, John Cena–Approved With James Park May 01, 2023

Co-hosts Katie (@QKatie) and Jen (@JenEatsLife) talk all things spice—and the not-so-nice. They trace peppers' trade routes and WWE professional wrestler John Cena's contribution to the chile crisp trend. Later in the episode, they dissect the anatomy of a perfect chili oil with Eater's social media manager James Park (@jamesyworld).

Special thanks to Allison for your question and Brian (@bqfunk) for our theme music!

Have a Q? Send us a voice memo for a chance to get featured.

Nuts About Nut Butters With Chetna Makan Apr 27, 2023

It's a nutty episode: co-hosts Katie and Jen talk about Americans' obsession with peanut butter (plus Italians' indifference to the stuff), Haiti's "spicy peanut butter," and the various peanut "seasonings" in south Asian cuisines. Later on Food52 resident and Great British Bake-Off semi-finalist Chetna Makan joins to talk about her later-in-life adoption and love of nut butters.

Special thanks to listener Deandra for your question and Brian Quinn (@bqfunk) for our theme music.

What Makes Food Go Viral? With Sophia Roe Apr 27, 2023

Co-hosts Jen Phanomrat and Katie Quinn discuss the history and concept of "cucina povera" (making the most from simple, seasonal ingredients); Anna Maggio's Under the Olive Tree; and how we can see hints of this "poor cooking" approach in viral food trends today. Later on, chef and VICE Counter Space's Sophia Roe shares why equal access greater representation is important even—especially—in food.

Special thanks to our listener Leo for your question and Brian Quinn (@bqfunk) for our theme music.

Got a Q for us? Record a voice memo and send it here for a chance to be featured!

Aperitif AKA The Happiest Hour With Rachel Khoo Apr 24, 2023

Jen Phanomrat and Katie Quinn talk about the happiest hour, aka aperitivo, apéritif, and fika. They also talk about airplane food, ice cubes in wine, and how Apéritif author Rebekah Peppler and Food Network TV personality Rachel Khoo craft Friday coziness affordably.

Special thanks to our listeners for your questions and Brian Quinn (@bqfunk) for our theme music.

Got a Q for us? Record a voice memo and send it here for a chance to be featured!

The History of Ketchup Is Bananas With Frankie Celenza Apr 24, 2023

Who knew ketchup could be so controversial? Co-hosts Katie Quinn and Jen Phanomrat are joined by Tastemade's Frankie Celenza to discuss which foods are OK to smother in the stuff, catsup's surprising original formula (hint: no tomato), banana ketchup (!), homemade ketchup (!!), and why Heinz has remained king.
You can find Frankie's Tastemade show, Struggle Meals, on most streaming platforms, or follow his kitchen adventures on Instagram at @frankiecooks.

Special thanks to listeners for your questions and Brian Quinn (@bqfunk) for our theme music. Have a Q for us? Send us a voice memo for a chance to be featured.

Breakfast! With Zoe Kelly Apr 20, 2023

Quick: are you a pancakes or eggs benny person? Congee or oats?

Filipino-Thai New Yorker Jen Phanomrat grew up with silog for breakfast; Katie Quinn's Midwestern household usually had cereal. On this episode, they discuss breakfast traditions across the world, and discover many surprising universalities. They're joined by Chef and Founder of Little Chef & Me Zoe Kelly, who shares a dunktastic idea we'll be making our new morning tradition.
Special thanks to our listeners Clifton and Janet (@JustJanet69) for your questions, and Brian Quinn (@bqfunk) for our theme music.

Have a Q for us? Send us a voice memo for a chance to be featured.

Chicken or the Egg With Julie Nolke Apr 20, 2023

New-Yorker-for-life Jen keeps her eggs in her fridge; Katie, who's now in Puglia, used to but now doesn't—as per her Egg Guy's (yup) recommendation. We look at which cultures chill vs. not, what makes an egg brown or white (and orange-yolked!), if a "proper" omelet even exists, and consult very special guest, Canadian actress and comedian Julie Nolke on her breakfast feelings.
Check out Julie's vids on YouTube, or follow her @julienolke on Instagram and @juliemarienolke on Twitter.
Special thanks to Michelle (@Michelle_MadisonTV) for your question and Brian Quinn (@bqfunk) for our theme music. Send us a voice memo for a chance to be featured!

[BONUS] Holiday Baking SNAFUs with ATK's Elle Simone Scott Dec 02, 2021

For the past 10 years, the Food52 Editors have been answering the community's questions on the Food52 Hotline. We've debated the very best way to cut an onion, whether garlic pressing is sacrilegious, and compared notes on how to get the crispiest chicken skin. And now, we're taking those questions to the airwaves! Hosted by chef and restaurateur Esther Choi, Hotline Offline will leave you with a better understanding of how and why recipes and chefs say what they do (and empower you to abandon those rules completely!). On this episode: ATK's Elle Simone Scott joins Esther to tackle your questions all about holiday baking.

Got a question? Call ‪(518) 291-9877‬ and leave us a message on the hotline, and be sure to follow Hotline Offline so no question goes unanswered and no answer unheard.

The Evolution of Kitchen Appliances With Emmy Cho Jun 24, 2021

Co-hosts Katie (@QKatie) and Jen (@JenEatsLife) discuss the transformation of the modern-day kitchen as we know it: from the Industrial Revolution's impact on the woman's "place" in the kitchen, to how domestic duties have evolved over time. They also discuss their shared adoration for cooking infomercials with YouTuber Emmy Cho (@EmmyMade).

Referenced in this episode:

The 100-year evolution of 9 kitchen appliances (HomeAdvisor)
Rural cooking channels: Dianxi Xiaoge, Traditional Me
Vintage kitchen films: A Step Saving Kitchen, 1949; It Happened in the Kitchen, Part 2 - ca. 1941
Japanese modern kitchen features: check out this fish drawer (!) and microwave-oven combo
Emmy's Tangerine Bao recipe and vintage mayo gadget
Moley's robotic kitchen

Specials thanks to Danielle for your question, and Brian Quinn (@bqfunk) for our theme music.

That's a wrap on season 1! We'll be interviewing Counterjam host Peter J. Kim live on Clubhouse at 1:30pm PDT on 7/14. Hope to see you there (and answer some of your questions)!

It Takes Two to Mango With Ravneet Gill Jun 17, 2021

A few years ago, Katie got cancelled over a video on mango con chile. Why? Katie and Jen talk about the cultural appropriation in food; how to share excitement over "discovery" of new foods sensitively; and the importance of better, more diverse representation in media.

They're later joined by pastry chef and The Pastry Chef's Guide author Ravneet Gill, who shares a wealth of mango inspo—including a hot tip for stellar mangoes year-round.

P.S. Here's the NSFW mango TikTok mango hack Jen mentions.

P.P.S. And, Ravneet's Mango Mousse recipe from her book, The Pastry Chef's Guide to make this weekend.

Special thanks to our listeners for your questions and Brian Quinn (@bqfunk) for our theme music.

Got a Q for us? Record a voice memo and send it here for a chance to be featured!

The Best Chili Oil, John Cena–Approved With James Park Jun 10, 2021

Co-hosts Katie (@QKatie) and Jen (@JenEatsLife) talk all things spice—and the not-so-nice. They trace peppers' trade routes and WWE professional wrestler John Cena's contribution to the chile crisp trend. Later in the episode, they dissect the anatomy of a perfect chili oil with Eater's social media manager James Park (@jamesyworld).

Special thanks to Allison for your question and Brian (@bqfunk) for our theme music!

Have a Q? Send us a voice memo for a chance to get featured.

Nuts About Nut Butters With Chetna Makan Jun 03, 2021

It's a nutty episode: co-hosts Katie and Jen talk about Americans' obsession with peanut butter (plus Italians' indifference to the stuff), Haiti's "spicy peanut butter," and the various peanut "seasonings" in south Asian cuisines. Later on Food52 resident and Great British Bake-Off semi-finalist Chetna Makan joins to talk about her later-in-life adoption and love of nut butters.

Special thanks to listener Deandra for your question and Brian Quinn (@bqfunk) for our theme music.

What Makes Food Go Viral? With Sophia Roe May 27, 2021

Co-hosts Jen Phanomrat and Katie Quinn discuss the history and concept of "cucina povera" (making the most from simple, seasonal ingredients); Anna Maggio's Under the Olive Tree; and how we can see hints of this "poor cooking" approach in viral food trends today. Later on, chef and VICE Counter Space's Sophia Roe shares why equal access greater representation is important even—especially—in food.

Special thanks to our listener Leo for your question and Brian Quinn (@bqfunk) for our theme music.

Got a Q for us? Record a voice memo and send it here for a chance to be featured!

Aperitif AKA The Happiest Hour With Rachel Khoo May 20, 2021

Jen Phanomrat and Katie Quinn talk about the happiest hour, aka aperitivo, apéritif, and fika. They also talk about airplane food, ice cubes in wine, and how Apéritif author Rebekah Peppler and Food Network TV personality Rachel Khoo craft Friday coziness affordably.

Special thanks to our listeners for your questions and Brian Quinn (@bqfunk) for our theme music.

Got a Q for us? Record a voice memo and send it here for a chance to be featured!

The History of Ketchup Is Bananas With Frankie Celenza May 13, 2021

Who knew ketchup could be so controversial? Co-hosts Katie Quinn and Jen Phanomrat are joined by Tastemade's Frankie Celenza to discuss which foods are OK to smother in the stuff, catsup's surprising original formula (hint: no tomato), banana ketchup (!), homemade ketchup (!!), and why Heinz has remained king.
You can find Frankie's Tastemade show, Struggle Meals, on most streaming platforms, or follow his kitchen adventures on Instagram at @frankiecooks.

Special thanks to listeners for your questions and Brian Quinn (@bqfunk) for our theme music. Have a Q for us? Send us a voice memo for a chance to be featured.

Breakfast! With Zoe Kelly May 06, 2021

Quick: are you a pancakes or eggs benny person? Congee or oats?

Filipino-Thai New Yorker Jen Phanomrat grew up with silog for breakfast; Katie Quinn's Midwestern household usually had cereal. On this episode, they discuss breakfast traditions across the world, and discover many surprising universalities. They're joined by Chef and Founder of Little Chef & Me Zoe Kelly, who shares a dunktastic idea we'll be making our new morning tradition.
Special thanks to our listeners Clifton and Janet (@JustJanet69) for your questions, and Brian Quinn (@bqfunk) for our theme music.

Have a Q for us? Send us a voice memo for a chance to be featured.

Chicken or the Egg With Julie Nolke May 06, 2021

New-Yorker-for-life Jen keeps her eggs in her fridge; Katie, who's now in Puglia, used to but now doesn't—as per her Egg Guy's (yup) recommendation. We look at which cultures chill vs. not, what makes an egg brown or white (and orange-yolked!), if a "proper" omelet even exists, and consult very special guest, Canadian actress and comedian Julie Nolke on her breakfast feelings.
Check out Julie's vids on YouTube, or follow her @julienolke on Instagram and @juliemarienolke on Twitter.
Special thanks to Michelle (@Michelle_MadisonTV) for your question and Brian Quinn (@bqfunk) for our theme music. Send us a voice memo for a chance to be featured!

Halloumi Is Hella Good May 06, 2021

Why are Brits so obsessed with halloumi? Just Eats Life's Jen Phanomrat (and New Yorker for life!) and expat-in-Europe Katie Quinn look at the hella complicated history of halloumi.

Some more ways to houdini cheese into your life:

Cheddar Brownies recipe from Katie's newest book (!)
the Masamman Halloumi Curry Jen mentions

Special thanks to our listeners for your questions and Brian Quinn (@bqfunk) for our theme music.

Have a Q for us? Send us a voice memo for a chance to be featured.

Introducing: Either Side Eaters Mar 17, 2021

Quick: What goes on the scone first, cream or jam? Is it called a hot dog or a frankfurter? With the help of listeners and notable guests, New Yorker Jen Phanomrat and expat in Europe Katie Quinn explore food culture and social norms from either side of the Atlantic.

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