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If you were our friend, and if we could look you in the eyes and see your struggles and know you fully, and if we could only give you ONE thing—we’d give you God’s Word. There is more power and love and truth in one verse than in a thousand other words. So, let us help you memorize God’s words in a simple, easy way. We hope you’ll love listening in while we chat about what our verse means, why it matters, and how it intersects with our daily lives.

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You Can't Earn OR Lose God's Love Nov 20, 2024

The everlasting love of God frees us from the fear of messing up and from hiding away from him when we do mess up (which is constantly). He's always that warm and loving Father who...even though your "wrecked the car"...says, "I am going to pay for that. My arms are open wide and I will love you regardless."
— Natalie Abbott
Today's Episode: Do you ever try to earn God's love for you? Or do you doubt his love when you mess up? Well, here's the best news, God's love isn't dependent on you. Today, Dwell co-founders Natalie and Vera are talking about the joy and relief of knowing that God is unchanging in his character. You'll be encouraged as they relate stories of how they've seen God's love, goodness, and faithfulness in their own lives.
This month's memory verse: "For the LORD is good and his love endures forever; his faithfulness continues through all generations." — Psalm 100:5
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Links from today's show:

Check out The Pour Over, Natalie and Vera's go-to source for concise, unbiased news from a Christian perspective.
Check out Natalie and Vera's new Bible study, Dwell on These Things: Transform Your Heart and Mind by Memorizing God's Word.
Memorize 11 new verses in Natalie and Vera's book, Dwell Differently: Overcome Negative Thinking with the Simple Practice of Memorizing God’s Truth.
Dig deeper into this month's verse in our weekly devotionals. Get them sent to your inbox free every Monday!

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All the Time, God is Good // Tina Boesch Nov 13, 2024

"The reality is, we see God's goodness all the time—when we wake up in the morning and there's light streaming in through the window and the rains fall and water the earth—there are these things that are happening all the time that we can miss that are displays of God's goodness and his sustaining grace."
— Tina Boesch
Today's Episode: You won't want to miss today's episode about the amazing goodness of our God! Listen in as Tina Boesch and Natalie share personal stories of God's goodness. They encourage us to find and recount God's goodness in hard times. They relate stories about how we can experience goodness through God's people. Through it all, they relate how we see the nature of God's goodness as it's expressed throughout the Bible. You will walk away encouraged to recount God's goodness all the time, because he is good all the time, even when we don't quite see it.
This month's memory verse: "For the LORD is good and his love endures forever; his faithfulness continues through all generations." — Psalm 100:5
Today's guest: Tina Boesch serves as manager of the Lifeway Women's Bible Study team. For fourteen years, she and her husband and their three kids—Lois, Micah, and Naomi—called Istanbul, Turkey, home. Now they've settled north of Nashville, but she still misses steaming cups of Turkish tea. Tina is the author of Given: The Forgotten Meaning and Practice of Blessing and has written for publications like Christianity Today and The Gospel Coalition. She earned a Master of Arts in Theology from Regent College in Vancouver, British Columbia. You can find some of her stained glass window design and writing on travel, art, Scripture, and life together at tinaboesch.com.
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Find out more about Tina at TinaBoesch.com.
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Dig even deeper into God's Word (and memorize it!) in Natalie and Vera's new Bible study, Dwell on These Things and book, Dwell Differently.

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Psalm 100:5 Deep Dive // God, Help Me Praise You! Nov 04, 2024

"All of this praise is built on the foundational bedrock of who God is."
— Natalie Abbott
Today's episode: Has your praise ever felt hollow or empty? On today's episode, Dwell Differently cofounder Natalie Abbott shares about how she initially felt "meh" reading Psalm 100 and our memory verse. She shares how God met her in confessional prayer and used his Word to transform her heart and help her honestly say those words of praise. She also helps us see how God himself and his character must fuel our worship. Finally, she leaves us with practical tips on how we can build our own honest praise on the foundation of who God is.
This month's memory verse: "For the LORD is good and his love endures forever; his faithfulness continues through all generations." — Psalm 100:5
Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about the easy button for Scripture memory, Dwell Differently’s monthly kit!
Support Our Show: Leaving us a review is the best way to encourage us and help other people find our show.
Links from today's show:

Read Natalie's Devotional, Feeling Far From God?to hear more about how she wrestled with this verse.
Check out The Pour Over, Natalie's go-to source for concise, unbiased news from a Christian perspective.
Check out Natalie and Vera's new Bible study, Dwell on These Things: Transform Your Heart and Mind by Memorizing God's Word.
Memorize 11 new verses in Natalie and Vera's book, Dwell Differently: Overcome Negative Thinking with the Simple Practice of Memorizing God’s Truth.
Dig deeper into this month's verse in our weekly devotionals. Get them sent to your inbox free every Monday!

Support the show

Follow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferenly.

BONUS SERIES: Dwell on These Things, Ep. 6 //Courtney Doctor & Hunter Beless - Finding a Mentor Oct 30, 2024

"Everybody has a 'yes' they can give [to mentor someone]. Give up your time for the good of someone else, then you will...also grow in it."
— Courtney Doctor
Today's Episode: What does a mentoring relationship really look like? Today Courtney Doctor and Hunter Beless are pulling back the curtain of their mentoring relationship. They are real and deep and rooted in the Word. And they are fun and practical and hilarious, and you won't want the conversation to end! We hope this episode blesses you and encourages you to intentionally pursue relationships with your gospel-friends like Hunter and Courtney do.
Today's Verse: "Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me—put it into practice. And the God of peace will be with you." — Philippians 4:9
The Dwell on These Things Series: We’re talking about the 6 verses in our new Scripture memory Bible study with some of our favorite people! We’re talking about joy, peace, a firm mind, and the nearness of God himself. And we’re also talking with vulnerability and compassion about the things that plague our hearts, keep us up at night, and give us anxiety. Want more? Get the Dwell on These Things Bible studytoday!

Today's guests:
Courtney Doctor received an MDiv from Covenant Theological Seminary and currently serves as the Director of Women’s Initiatives for The Gospel Coalition. She is a Bible teacher and author of From Garden to Glory as well asseveral Bible studies including In View of God’s Mercies, Behold and Believe, and Remember your Joy. Courtney and her husband Craig have four children, five beautiful grandchildren, and a goofy dog named Walter.
Hunter Beless is passionate about helping women and children know and love God more, especially through His Word. She is the founder of Journeywomen, hosts the Journeywomen podcast, and loves doing ministry in her local church context. Hunter and her husband, Brooks, have four wonderful kiddos. When they’re not snuggled up reading a good book, you can find the Beless family gardening, riding bikes, or exploring the Buffalo River. Learn more about Hunter at www.hunterbeless.com.
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Find out more about Courtney at CourtneyDoctor.org and Hunter at HunterBeless.com.
Get your own copy of the Dwell on These ThingsBible study.
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BONUS SERIES: Dwell on These Things, Ep.5 // Elizabeth Woodson - Right Thinking Oct 30, 2024

"We have been formed by the world...and we have to be reformed by the way of truth."
— Elizabeth Woodson
Today's Episode: The world has so much impact on our thought life—on how we think about ourselves, about what matters, about who God is—and so often we just passively allow the world to form us. On this episode, Elizabeth Woodson is urging us not to just passively or thoughtlessly receive what the world is dishing out, but to actively take in God's Word and reform our thinking. She encourages us to spend time in God's Word—to meditate on it, study it, memorize it, and allow it to impact our whole person for good.

Today's Verse: "Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things." — Philippians 4:8

The Dwell on These Things Series: We’re talking about the 6 verses in our new Scripture memory Bible study with some of our favorite people! We’re talking about joy, peace, a firm mind, and the nearness of God himself. And we’re also talking with vulnerability and compassion about the things that plague our hearts, keep us up at night, and give us anxiety. Want more? Get the Dwell on These Things Bible studytoday!

Today's guest: Elizabeth Woodson is a Bible teacher, the author of Embrace Your Life and From Beginning to Forever, and the founder of The Woodson Institute, an organization that equips believers to understand and grow in their Christian faith. She is also a graduate of Dallas Theological Seminary with a master’s in Christian education.
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Find out more about Elizabeth and the Woodson institute here.
Get your own copy of the Dwell on These ThingsBible study.
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BONUS EPISODE: Dwell on These Things, Ep. 4 // Melissa Spoelstra - Finding Peace Oct 30, 2024

"I can actually hold on to peace and grief at the same time. I can hold on to peace and disappointment at the same time. I can savor the peace that Jesus offers me because of who he is, not because of what is going on in my life."
— Melissa Spoelstra
Today's Episode: Looking for real and lasting peace—peace that isn't dependent on perfect outcomes or shifting circumstances? Then stop right here and take a listen. Today Natalie and Vera are chatting with Melissa Spoelstra about peace. She helps us understand that Biblical peace isn't a tranquil state of circumstances, but a tranquil state of the soul. She helps us see how real and lasting peace is found in Jesus, and she gives us practical insights into how we can find our peace in him.
Today's Verse: "And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus." — Philippians 4:7
The Dwell on These Things Series: We’re talking about the 6 verses in our new Scripture memory Bible study with some of our favorite people! We’re talking about joy, peace, a firm mind, and the nearness of God himself. And we’re also talking with vulnerability and compassion about the things that plague our hearts, keep us up at night, and give us anxiety. Want more? Get the Dwell on These Things Bible studytoday!

Today's guest: Melissa Spoelstra is a Bible teacher and author who is madly in love with Jesus. She is passionate about studying God’s Word and helping women of all ages to seek Christ and know Him more intimately through serious Bible study. Melissa has a degree in Bible theology and has authored many Bible studies, including Isaiah: Striving Less and Trusting God More andThe Gospel of John: Savoring the Peace of Jesus in a Chaotic World. Melissa enjoys spending time with her pastor husband, Sean, and their children: Zach & Morgan, Abby, Sara, Rachel, and Yoni.
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Find out more about Melissa at MelissaSpoelstra.com.
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BONUS SERIES: Dwell on These Things, Ep. 3 // Debra Fileta - The Anxiety Exchange Oct 23, 2024

"When you feel anxious, your body is sending you this signal. Don't just sit in that. Respond. Do something about it. Go to prayer; ask God to help you realign your mindset...Give him the burdens. Go to this quiet special place and start to adjust and recalibrate and do things differently. And when you leave that place, you will be filled with the peace of God."
— Debra Fileta
Today's Episode: Debra Fileta wants you to take good care of your soul. In today's episode she helps us see how anxiety is an alarm signal that lets us know something's wrong in us. She encourages us to consider and incorporate the spiritual rhythms Jesus practiced in our own lives. It's a really practical, encouraging conversation...one you won't want to miss!
Today's Verse: "Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God." — Philippians 4:6
The Dwell on These Things Series: We’re talking about the 6 verses in our new Scripture memory Bible study with some of our favorite people! We’re talking about the highest highs—like joy and peace and a firm mind and the nearness of God himself. And we’re also talking with vulnerability and compassion about our lowest lows—like the things that plague our hearts, keep us up at night, and give us anxiety. These are such good, honest, real conversations with real friends and experts on these matters. Want more? Get the Dwell on These Things Bible studytoday!

Today's guest: Debra Fileta is a Licensed Professional Counselor, relationship expert, national speaker, and founder of the Debra Fileta Counselor’s Network. She is the author of True Love Dates, Choosing Marriage: Why it Has To Start With We > Me, Love in Every Season, Are You Really OK?, Married Sex, RESET, and Soul Care. Debra is the creator of the popular relationship advice blog, www.TrueLoveDates.com, and the host of Talk To Me: The Debra Fileta Podcast where she facilitates on-air authentic counseling-style sessions. You may also recognize her voice from her 200+ articles published across the internet. Connect with her on Facebook or Instagram!
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Get Debra's new book, Soul Care.
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BONUS SERIES: Dwell on These Things, Ep. 2 // Jeannie Cunnion - Get Closer to God Oct 23, 2024

"It grieves me that so many women and men struggle to experience God's presence...Somehow the enemy has fooled us into believing that enjoying [God's] presence, experiencing his presence, hearing his voice, being led by his Spirit, is something that they somehow haven't figured out the formula for."
— Jeannie Cunnion
Today's Episode: Jeannie Cunnion is convinced that God's purpose for you is to enjoy his presence. On today's episode, she shares how God goes about making himself available, and even, near to his people. It's such a beautiful conversation that will leave you not only wanting a closer relationship with Jesus, but also, practically equipped to pursue God as he pursues you.
Today's Verse: "Let your gentleness be evident to all. The Lord is near." — Philippians 4:5
The Dwell on These Things Series: We’re talking about the 6 verses in our new Scripture memory Bible study with some of our favorite people! We’re talking about the highest highs—like joy and peace and a firm mind and the nearness of God himself. And we’re also talking with vulnerability and compassion about our lowest lows—like the things that plague our hearts, keep us up at night, and give us anxiety. These are such good, honest, real conversations with real friends and experts on these matters. Want more? Get the Dwell on These Things Bible studytoday!

Today's guest: Jeannie Cunnion is a bestselling author of several books and Bible Studies. Her work has been featured on outlets such as The TODAY show, Fox News, CBN, and a host of popular podcasts. Jeannie holds a master’s degree in social work and she is the co-founder of The 509 Foundation. She and her husband, Mike, live in Greenwich, Connecticut, with their five boys. Connect with her at JeannieCunnion.com.
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Get Jeannie's new book, Closer to God.
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BONUS SERIES: Dwell on These Things, Ep. 1 // Melissa Kruger - Experience Real Joy Oct 23, 2024

"In the midst of a world that's not right, we drink from the well—which is Christ—and we have refreshment in a dry and weary land."
— Melissa Kruger
Today's Episode: How do we find joy? Real, deep joy in joyless circumstances, in dry seasons or dark places? On today's episode, Melissa Kruger walks us through the journey of finding joy. Spoiler alert: joy isn't discovered or mustered, it's given to us when we abide in Jesus. He is the source of all safe and solid joy, not our circumstances. It's both a practical and a beautiful conversation that will encourage you to find true joy in Jesus.
Today's Verse: "Rejoice in the Lord always. I will say it again: Rejoice!" — Philippians 4:4
The Dwell on These Things Series: We’re talking about the 6 verses in our new Scripture memory Bible study with some of our favorite people! We’re talking about joy, peace, a firm mind, and the nearness of God himself. And we’re also talking with vulnerability and compassion about the things that plague our hearts, keep us up at night, and give us anxiety. Want more? Get the Dwell on These Things Bible studytoday!

Today's guest: Melissa Kruger serves as vice president of discipleship programming for The Gospel Coalition (TGC). She’s the author of multiple books, including The Envy of Eve: Finding Contentment in a Covetous World, Growing Together: Taking Mentoring Beyond Small Talk and Prayer Request, Parenting with Hope: Raising Teens for Christ in a Secular Age, andWherever You Go I Want You to Know. Her husband, Mike, is the president of Reformed Theological Seminary and they have three children.
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Find out more about Melissa at MelissaBKruger.com.
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Dig deeper into this month's verse in our weekly devotionals. Get

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Revelation Doesn't Have to Be Scary // Jen Wilkin Oct 16, 2024

"Whatever is going to happen—whatever the literal next things are that happen in my life—this symbolic vision of God means that in the end, it's going to be alright. I can trust the God who made time to steward time all the way to its conclusion."
— Jen Wilkin
Today's Episode: Does the book of Revelation intimidate you? Maybe even scare you a little? Or do you wonder how it could relate to your life in the slightest? On today's episode, Jen Wilkin acknowledges the scary and the weird in Revelation while pointing our hearts to the true purpose of the book: reassurance. The God who is holy and mighty is coming back to make all things right, and we can take great comfort in this knowledge. But this book and our memory verse isn't just about the future. Jen helps us consider how we can live faithful lives in the present as we trust in our everlasting, powerful, returning God. It's a conversation that you won't want to miss!
This month's memory verse: "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who is, and was and is to come." —Revelation 4:8b
Today's guest: Jen Wilkin is an author and Bible teacher from Dallas, Texas. Her passion is to see others become articulate and committed followers of Christ, with a clear understanding of why they believe what they believe, grounded in the Word of God. Jen is the author many books and Bible studies. Find her at JenWilkin.net and learn more about her latest Bible study, Revelation, at lifeway.com/revelation.
Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about the easy button for Scripture memory, Dwell Differently’s monthly kit!
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Get a copy of Jen's Revelation Bible study.
Find out more about Jen here.
Check out Natalie and Vera's new Bible study, Dwell on These Things: Transform Your Heart and Mind by Memorizing God's Word.
Dig deeper into this month's verse in our weekly devotionals. Get them sent to your inbox free every Monday!

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Transformed by Scripture Memory // Elizabeth Hyndman Oct 07, 2024

"When I start to feel anxious about something, I have trained myself to be like, 'What is true? Is this true? Is this thing that you're worrying about...is it true?' And then going to the other passages of Scripture that I have memorized or that I'm familiar with and thinking, 'Okay, what is true? What is true is that God is good. What is true is that God fulfills all of his promises.'"
— Elizabeth Hyndman
Today's Episode: We are co-releasing today's episode with Lifeway Women's Marked podcast. Hear about the transformational power of memorizing God's Word with Elizabeth Hyndman, Vera Schmitz, and Natalie Abbott. They share stories from their own lives that you won't want to miss!
Today's guest: Elizabeth Hyndman leads Lifeway Women Academy, edits Bible studies, and cohosts the MARKED podcast. A Nashville native, grammarian, traveler, and tea drinker, Elizabeth can be found on Instagram @edhyndman.
The MARKED Podcast by Lifeway Women is a podcast for women who are marked by a hunger for God’s Word, a longing to impact culture, and a desire to discover and live out God’s calling in their lives. In each episode, Elizabeth Hyndman talks about what God is doing—how He has and is marking each of us.
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Check out Natalie and Vera's new Bible study, Dwell on These Things: Transform Your Heart and Mind by Memorizing God's Word.
Dig deeper into this month's verse in our weekly devotionals. Get them sent to your inbox free every Monday!

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Revelation 4:8b Deep Dive // A Peek into Heaven Oct 02, 2024

"Right now we can join in that worship and sing out with those angels, 'Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come.'"
— Natalie Abbott
Today's episode: Natalie is talking about Revelation 4:8b, which tells us, "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who is, and was and is to come." It's a peek into the throne room of God and the perpetual worship of his heavenly creatures. Natalie walks us through what this verse tells us about the character of our God, why these specific names are used, and how this verse fits not only into the book of Revelation, but into God's bigger redemptive story and our lives.
This month's memory verse: "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who is, and was and is to come." —Revelation 4:8b
Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about the easy button for Scripture memory, Dwell Differently’s monthly kit!
Support Our Show: Leaving us a review is the best way to encourage us and help other people find our show.
Links from today's show:

Check out The Pour Over, Natalie's go-to source for concise, unbiased news from a Christian perspective.
Check out Natalie and Vera's new Bible study, Dwell on These Things: Transform Your Heart and Mind by Memorizing God's Word.
Memorize 11 new verses in Natalie and Vera's book, Dwell Differently: Overcome Negative Thinking with the Simple Practice of Memorizing God’s Truth.
Dig deeper into this month's verse in our weekly devotionals. Get them sent to your inbox free every Monday!

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Why Am I Suffering? // Vaneetha Risner Sep 25, 2024

"When you realize God meets us in the pit, that's a way that we can really glorify God, not for what he does, but for who he is." — Vaneetha Risner
Today's Episode: So often in our suffering we ask this question, "If God loves me, why did this happen?" On today's episode, Vaneetha Risner (who is no stranger to suffering), encourages us to ask a different question. She reminds us that we are loved by God and therefore should ask, "Because God loves me, why did this happen?" Vaneetha helps us see how God meets us in our suffering, how our suffering is not without purpose, and how we can grow in hope through it all.
This month's memory verse: "Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful." — Hebrews 10:23
Today's guest: Vaneetha Rendall Risner writes and speaks about suffering. She is the author of several books including a Bible study, Desperate for Hope, and her memoir, Walking Through Fire. Vaneetha and her husband Joel live in Raleigh, NC where she writes at her website https://www.vaneetha.com about struggle and loss and the breathtaking way Christ meets us in it.
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Find out more about Vaneetha on her website.
Listen to Held by Natalie Grant—the song that Crystal Wells wrote about the loss of Vaneetha's newborn son.
Check out Natalie and Vera's new Bible study, Dwell on These Things: Transform Your Heart and Mind by Memorizing God's Word.
Dig deeper into this month's verse in our weekly devotionals. Get them sent to your inbox free every Monday!

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Faithful Because... Sep 18, 2024

"I just want to be faithful because he is so faithful." — Vera Schmitz
Today's Episode: How do you hold on to hope? That's what Natalie Abbott and Vera Schmitz are talking about on today's episode. They discuss how easy it can be to lose hope when our hope is placed in our circumstances, our tendency to slowly drift away from God, and his faithfulness to forgive us and restore us when we return to him. They also give us two practical tips for how we can remain faithful over time. It's a great conversation—one you won't want to miss.
This month's memory verse: "Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful." — Hebrews 10:23
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Get our FREE weekly devotional email: Dive deeper into this month’s verse!
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Memorize and study Philippians 4:4-9 in Vera and Natalie's new Bible study, Dwell on These Things: Transform Your Heart and Mind by Memorizing God's Word.
Check out Natalie and Vera's book, Dwell Differently: Overcome Negative Thinking with the Simple Practice of Memorizing God’s Truth.
Don't miss out on the Dwell Differently companion resources (temporary tattoos, verse memory cards, a necklace, etc...).

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Pivot with Purpose and Hope // Katherine Wolf Sep 11, 2024

"I also give myself permission to dream new dreams for my life and to not be wedded to the dreams from when I was a child...I have the ability to pivot into the story that God is writing and not be insistent on a story that's no longer available...God is on the move in this story right in front of my nose if I have eves to see that." — Katherine Wolf

Today's Episode: Everything doesn't always work out the way we hope it will. Certainly, Katherine Wolf's life didn't go as planned. As a new mom in her twenties, Katherine suffered a stroke that nearly took her life and did taking many of her abilities. Yet, she is one of the most hope-filled people you could meet. She shares today about how she was able to pivot from her expectations and learned to embrace her new "assignment from God" with hope. She shares about living with purpose in the right now, being emotionally agile, escaping the "what if" loop, and dreaming new dreams. It's a conversation you won't want to miss.
This month's memory verse: "Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful." — Hebrews 10:23
Today's guest: Katherine Wolf
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Find out more about Katherine here.
Check out Katherine's devotional, Treasures in the Dark: 90 Reflections on Finding Bright Hope in the Hurting.
Read an article by Katherine where she quotes Sir Richard Baker
Listen to "Steadfast" by Sandra McCraken
Start memorizing Scripture with your family with the Dwell Differently Family Membership.
Dig deeper into this month's verse in our weekly devotionals. Get them sent to your inbox free every Monday!

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Hebrews 10:23 Deep Dive // Jesus, Our Best Hope Sep 02, 2024

"This is the hope that we long for: the throne room of God himself. It is a better country, a heavenly one. It is the place we belong. And you have been invited in." — Natalie Abbott
Today's Episode: Jesus is our best hope. In him, we've been given access to God the Father. And because this is true, it should profoundly affect our lives. Listen today as Natalie Abbott teaches us how our theology (or what we believe about Jesus) has practical implications for how we live. Hear about how Jesus fulfills the Old Testament promises, how that changes everything for how we live right now, and how he welcomes us into the throne room of heaven itself.
This month's memory verse: "Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful." — Hebrews 10:23
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Memorize 11 new verses in Natalie and Vera's book, Dwell Differently: Overcome Negative Thinking with the Simple Practice of Memorizing God’s Truth.
Dig deeper into this month's verse in our weekly devotionals. Get them sent to your inbox free every Monday!
Check out The Pour Over, Natalie's go-to source for concise, unbiased news from a Christian perspective.

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Truth When You're Anxious Aug 28, 2024

"Whatever you're anxious about, it's real. Don't feel dumb or ashamed because other people don't deal with the thing you're dealing with in the same way that you're dealing with it." — Vera Schmitz

On today's episode: All month long we've been considering the perfect peace of God. And today, we're going to get practical and look at how we can fight for peace when we're anxious by using God's Word. Anxiety is something Vera has struggled with over the years in big and small ways. You won't want to miss her honest conversation and practical advice. Today's episode is from the Overcome Podcast, where Vera and Natalie discuss chapters from their book, Dwell Differently: Overcome Negative Thinking with the Simple Practice of Memorizing God's Truth.
Today's verses: "You will keep in perfect peace those whose minds are steadfast, because they trust in you." — Isaiah 26:3
"Cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you." — 1 Peter 5:7
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Creating Habits of Peace Aug 21, 2024

"The promise of the peace of God is so much greater than we can even comprehend. And the beauty of that promise and the culmination of that promise is the very thing our hearts long for."
— Natalie Abbott

On Today's Episode: How do we find the peace of God in all circumstances, in our difficult things and in our mundane everyday lives? That's what Dwell Co-founders and sisters Vera Schmitz and Natalie Abbott are discussing today. They talk about their own experiences of God's peace, the full promise of God's peace in our verse, and how we can practically establish patterns in our everyday lives to promote peace.
This month's memory verse: "You will keep in perfect peace those whose minds are steadfast, because they trust in you." — Isaiah 26:3
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Secrets, Panic, Anxiety, and Being Set Free // Scarlet Hiltibidal Aug 14, 2024

"I was a Christian hiding this secret. "
— Scarlet Hiltibidal

Today's Episode: Have you ever been eaten up with anxiety? Have you ever found yourself all in a panic? Or have you held on tight to a secret struggle and felt like everything would fall apart if anyone found you out? If so, you're not alone. Scarlet Hiltibidal is a mom, pastor's wife, author, speaker, and someone who struggles with anxiety and panic. She used to try desperately to be perfect and to hide her struggles. But one day, she realized that she couldn't do it anymore, and it was the best thing! You'll be so encouraged by Scarlet's story of how God worked his great peace in her heart and continues to do so. It is a picture of the story God wants to tell not in just Scarlet's life but in all our lives.
This month's memory verse: "You will keep in perfect peace those whose minds are steadfast, because they trust in you." — Isaiah 26:3
Today's guest: Scarlet Hiltibidal is the author of Afraid of All the Things, You’re the Worst Person in the World, He Numbered the Pores on My Face, and the Anxiousand Ashamed Bible studies. She writes regularly for ParentLife Magazine, HomeLife Magazine, and She Reads Truth. Scarlet enjoys speaking to women around the country about the freedom and rest available in Jesus. She and her husband live in Tennessee, where she loves sign language with her daughters, nachos by herself, writing for her friends, and studying stand-up comedy with a passion that should be reserved for more important pursuits.

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Read more about Scarlet's take on this month's verse and about how she found herself screaming through a parking lot in her article Screaming, Sprinting, and Seeking Peace: Fighting Anxiety with the Word of God.
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Isaiah 26:3 Deep Dive // Peace Then, Now, and Forever Aug 05, 2024

“God is the worker of salvation. God is the one who has done everything for us. And his salvation is good, and it is on offer for all of us.” — Natalie Abbott
We all want peace. We need peace! And our verse this month promises just that! It's the very thing God wants to give us and all people for all time. In today's teaching episode, Natalie Abbott shows us how this big promise of peace in our verse is even bigger than it seems at first glance. She helps us understand how God's promised peace (and judgement) in the book of Isaiah has multiple fulfillments, much like a mountain range has numerous peaks. From a zoomed out vantage point we can not only understand each of these peaks of peace, but how we can apply God's promise of peace in our own lives.
This month’s memory verse: "You will keep in perfect peace those whose minds are steadfast, because they trust in you." — Isaiah 26:3

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God, If You're There... Natalie's Story Jul 31, 2024

“I went on this quest where I was like, if there is a God, I guess I should give him a fair shake (or her or them). So I started praying every night...'God if you're there, show me who you are.'"
— Natalie Abbott
If you've been praying for someone who is far off from God, let this episode be an encouragement to you. Natalie Abbott (Dwell Differently Co-founder) shares her own story of how God transformed her life—bringing light into darkness and life where there was death. She helps us see how beautiful the love and forgiveness of Jesus sounded to her when she was lost and lonely, trying desperately to fill herself up with empty things. May her story remind you of God's loving pursuit of all people and your calling to be a part of that pursuit.

This month’s memory verse: "As far as the east is from the west, so far has he removed our transgressions from us." — Psalm 103:12

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Jesus Paid It All // Rachelle Starr Jul 24, 2024

"If we believed that Jesus only died for a few of our sins, we'd still be living as captive people. But when I first understood that God remembers no more and when he sees me he sees Jesus—that changed everything about how I live, what I believe about the power of the Gospel, and what I share with people."
— Rachelle Starr

The blood of Jesus is enough to cover every sin—no sin is too big or too insignificant for him to forgive. He paid the full price for everyone who trusts in his saving work on the cross. It's the best news! And it's what we're discussing today with Rachelle Star, founder of Scarlet Hope. Her ministry helps women caught in the sex industry experience the love and forgiveness of Jesus. You will be so encouraged to hear her testimony of hope for all sinners, including herself.

This month's memory verse: "As far as the east is from the west, so far has he removed our transgressions from us." — Psalm 103:12
Today's guest: Rachelle Starr is first and foremost a lover of Jesus. In 2007, Rachelle founded the nonprofit, Scarlet Hope, when God called her to share His hope and love with exploited and trafficked women. Scarlet Hope has since expanded across ten cities in the United States and has trained thousands to launch similar nonprofits worldwide under Rachelle’s leadership. Rachelle is an entrepreneur at heart and enjoys developing innovative ways to reach and disciple women, wherever they are. As a speaker, coach, and author of Outrageous Obedience, Rachelle has shared her story on numerous platforms to inspire women to live an outrageous life for Jesus. When Rachelle’s not sharing the gospel in a strip club, you will find her spending time with her husband, Josh, and two boys, baking tasty treats, or playing card games.

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Condemnation or Conviction? And How to Tell the Difference Jul 17, 2024

"The narrative that Satan tells us is that we're unforgiven, we're unforgivable, we're steeped in this, there's no way out. And when you feel that way, that's condemnation. And my encouragement is when you hear those voices that you would respond with what is true—you would respond with some of the verses that we've memorized like...'As far as the east is from the west, so far has he removed our transgressions from us.'" —Natalie Abbott
Today's episode: Are you making too much of your sin or too little? Or to put it another way, have you confessed your sin to God, but you cannot forgive yourself? Or do you tend to minimize or dismiss your sin as no big deal? How can you tell the difference between self-condemnation and healthy conviction? These are some of questions Vera and Natalie are answering today. You won’t want to miss this conversation!
This month's memory verse: "As far as the east is from the west, so far has he removed our transgressions from us." — Psalm 103:12
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God Belongs in Prison // Jake Bodine Jul 10, 2024

“No matter what you've done or where you've come from there is a God in heaven that loves you. And he wants to have a relationship with you."
— Jake Bodine

This month we're focusing on the radical, endless love and forgiveness God offers sinners. Today we're seeing that love and forgiveness through the lens of prison inmates. Jake Bodine, founder of God Behind Bars, shares about the revival happening behind prison walls—inmates all over the country are experiencing the profound forgiveness and freedom found only in Christ. His stories and wise words will give us new insights into our self-justification, our sin ranking, and the radical mercies of God. You'll be encouraged to embrace the grace of Jesus for the worst of sinners (namely the person in the mirror)!

This month's memory verse: "As far as the east is from the west, so far has he removed our transgressions from us." — Psalm 103:12
Today's guest: Jake Bodine is the founder & CEO of God Behind Bars. He is a passionate entrepreneur with a huge heart to see those who are lost find Jesus and success in knowing Him. Jake is passionate about using his gifts and talents to change the world for the forgotten society behind prison walls. He has served as the CEO of God Behind Bars for 15 years and was recently named of the Top 40 Leaders in the city of Las Vegas.
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Psalm 103:12 Deep Dive // You Don’t Have to Carry That Around Anymore Jul 03, 2024

“If you are walking around right now carrying a heavy burden of shame and guilt, and you feel like there is no way God could forgive you, you are wrong…that sin has already been paid for by the blood of Christ.” — Natalie Abbott
Our verse this month is a message we all need to hear again and again. Join Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, as she unpacks the truth of what God has done for his people and the total forgiveness available because of Christ. As Natalie walks through the broader context of Psalm 103, she helps us focus in on the character of God, the benefits he offers to his children, and what to do when we don’t feel forgiven. We pray that as you listen today, you would remember afresh the love God has for you, receive the full forgiveness of Jesus, and join the psalmist David in praising our merciful God for who he is.

This month’s memory verse: "As far as the east is from the west, so far has he removed our transgressions from us." — Psalm 103:12

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Throwback!!! How a Simple Act of Generosity Can Change a Life // Jonathan Almonte Jun 26, 2024

Today we're resharing one of our most inspiring episodes about how God uses ordinary people to make an extraordinary impact. You won't want to miss hearing Jonathan Almonte’s story. He was born into poverty in the Dominican Republic with no education and no prospects. But God changed the trajectory of his life entirely when a 20-something from Michigan decided to sponsor a Compassion child (Jonathan) instead of buying a new car. So the question we're asking today is this: How can you use what God has given you to bless others and point them to Jesus? We’d love to challenge you to consider sponsoring a child through Compassion International as a way to practically love others. Sign up here and receive a bonus Dwell Differently kit!

This month’s memory verse: "Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world." — James 1:27
The original episode's memory verse: “Each of you should use whatever gift you have received to serve others, as faithful stewards of God’s grace in its various forms.” — 1 Peter 4:10
Today's Dwell guest: Jonathan Almonte, manager of Supporter Engagement of Compassion Dominican Republic, is passionate about empowering the next generation, bringing hope to the hopeless, and mobilizing the Church into action. He is also the founder of Doulos Liderazgo, Servicio, y Amor, a ministry which provides leadership training to local churches and cares for people’s spiritual and emotional needs through mentorship programs and camps. Jonathan lives in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic, with his wife, Kary, and son, JD.
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Do You Practice True Religion? Jun 19, 2024

“Are the actions plugged into faith, or are they unplugged? What are we operating out of? Are we operating out of a duty to do these things because that's the right thing to do? Or are we plugged into faith and motivated by the love God has for us to do the things we're called to do?" — Vera Schmitz
What's the difference between false religiosity and true religion? That's the question that Natalie Abbott and Vera Schmitz, sisters and co-founders of Dwell Differently, are answering on today's episode. Find out how religion can be something that pleases God himself, something that reflects his character and the beauty of the gospel. They also talk about what threatens to pollute their faith, their own struggles against those temptations, and how loving the least of these keeps our hearts pure.
This month’s memory verse: "Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world." — James 1:27
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Make an Impact, One Person at a Time // Jenny McGee Jun 12, 2024

“I would just encourage people to step out and love those people in front of you...you're just trying to impact one by one. And that's all that any of us can do.” — Jenny McGee

Join Natalie Abbott as she talks with Jenny McGee, founder of Starfish Project. They talk about Jenny's specific calling to help exploited and trafficked women and girls find freedom, independence, and meaningful work. They discuss the importance of helping just one person at a time and the calling we all have to love the people God puts in our paths. It's both an inspiring conversation about the dramatic work of God, and one that calls us to practice our faith in our everyday lives.

This month's memory verse: "Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world." — James 1:27
Today's guest: Jenny McGee is the founder of Starfish Project, an organization that helps formerly trafficked women and girls experience freedom and develop careers in the jewelry business. Starfish Project creates all of the jewelry for Dwell Differently and 100% of their proceeds go to helping the women they employ.
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James 1:27 Deep Dive // Take the Ice Plunge of Obedience Jun 05, 2024

“God has done so much for us in Christ Jesus, and it is beautiful and it is wonderful, and it should change the way we live out our faith—both externally and internally."
— Natalie Abbott

Today, Natalie Abbott talks about how the book of James is like an ice plunge—a wake-up call for us to live out our faith. And James 1:27 (our memory verse) is where the rubber meets the road, calling us to consider both the external and internal expression of our beliefs. She discusses who modern-day orphans and widows are and how caring for them is a reflection of the heart of God. She also challenges how we think about the world and its priorities and practices, calling us not to be lured into those things. In all of this, she confesses her own failures and calls us to consider our own. It's a great episode, the very ice plunge we need!

This month’s memory verse: "Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world." — James 1:27

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God's Word: The Off-Ramp We Need for Negative Thinking May 29, 2024

"These are not just good words, these are powerful, true, universe-creating words that you are speaking into your soul...these words have the power to completely transform your life. We believe that. We've experienced that." — Vera Schmitz
On today's episode, Natalie Abbott and Vera Schmitz are talking about their new book Dwell Differently: Overcome Negative Thinking with the Simple Practice of Memorizing God's Truth. They discuss how sometimes we get stuck in thought paths that are so consistent and repetitive it's like those paths have become superhighways—and we need an off-ramp. God's Word is that off-ramp! In today's discussion, they talk about the significance of memorizing God's truth, the verses that speak most to them from the book, and the fact that God himself is the one who works to transform us through the power of his Word.
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Let God’s Word Be the Thing That Remains // Courtney Doctor May 22, 2024

“The words that we speak simply are revealing what’s already there—they’re not making it, they’re not creating it, they’re just the thing that spills over.” — Courtney Doctor

Join Natalie Abbott and Courtney Doctor as they discuss how what we say reveals what’s going on inside us, how seeing the ugliness within us come out can sometimes be a gift, and how Jesus enables us to be people with transformed hearts and good that spills out. God himself is our ultimate good and the one who bears good fruit in us, and we know him through his Word. Let’s be people who let God’s Word be the thing that remains.

This month's memory verse: "A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart." — Luke 6:45a
Today's guest: Courtney Doctor received an MDiv from Covenant Theological Seminary and currently serves as the Director of Women’s Initiatives for The Gospel Coalition. She is a Bible teacher and author of several Bible studies including From Garden to Glory, In View of God’s Mercies, and Behold and Believe. You can connect with Courtney on Instagram or through her website.
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What Are You Consuming? May 15, 2024

“Memorizing Scripture…actually stores up the good thing in my heart. The only good things I have are from the Lord. The only good in me is from the Lord….Any goodness that I perform or any kindness that I have first comes from a truth that I’m believing about God or about myself.” — Vera Schmitz

What are you filling your mind and heart with these days? Join Vera Schmitz and Natalie Abbott, sisters and co-founders of Dwell Differently, as they talk honestly about their own struggles, encouraging us to be intentional with what we’re storing up in our hearts. Find out what Vera’s been memorizing from God’s Word to fill her mind with goodness and truth, and what you can do if you feel like things are out of control in your life. There’s so much good for us in Luke 6:45a—we can’t wait for you to join us in allowing Jesus’s words to change our lives!
This month’s memory verse: "A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart." — Luke 6:45a
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God's Word Pulled Me Through // Jennifer Dukes Lee May 08, 2024

“We have that ability—we can take God’s Word and when it’s ingrained in us we can just take it and pick it up and pray it over ourselves and pray it over our loved ones.” — Jennifer Dukes Lee

Today, Jennifer Dukes Lee joins Natalie Abbott to talk about Luke 6:45a, and you won't want to miss it. Jennifer talks vulnerably about how God has met and sustained her and her family in hard seasons through his Word. She encourages us to love our future selves by investing right now in knowing and loving God—banking up deposits by reading and memorizing his Word. She relates how God brings his Word back to mind and uses it to transform us in hard seasons. He is our good, and he alone can give us the good we are longing for.
This month’s memory verse: "A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart." — Luke 6:45a
Today's guest: Jennifer Dukes Lee is the bestselling author of several books, including Growing Slow, It’s All Under Control, and Stuff I’d Only Tell God. She’s a fan of queso, bright lipstick, and singing too loudly to songs with great harmony. She lives on a fifth-generation family farm in Iowa, where she and her husband have made a life of growing crops, pigs, two beautiful humans, and an enduring faith.

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Luke 6:45a Deep Dive // It's Time to Take Inventory May 01, 2024

“What you store up in your heart—either good or bad—has a real effect in your life. And the good things that come out of your heart, or the bad things, are the result of what you’re putting inside of you. So here’s the thing: we can know what’s going on inside of us by evaluating what’s coming out of us.” — Natalie Abbott

Have you ever said something and been shocked by what came out of your mouth, or maybe even how you said it? Join Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, as she unpacks Jesus's words in Luke 6, helping us see the diagnostic questions he was asking. Listen in as Natalie walks through what Jesus is asking us to take inventory of in our hearts and lives, looking at how we might be blind to our own sin, how we might be expecting to get good things from a bad source, and offering hope for all of us who long to be a person who has goodness of Christ coming out of our heart.
This month’s memory verse: "A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart." — Luke 6:45a
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How to Share Your Faith // Mike Grenier Apr 24, 2024

“God invites us to participate in what we’re seeing there in Ezekiel 36 and 37. It’s not that we’re making this heart of stone into a heart of flesh—God’s the actor. It’s not that we’re making these dry bones come alive—God’s doing that. But he invites us to be a part of that. That is an incredible privilege and it’s exciting.” — Mike Grenier

If you're honest, do you ever feel like you should want to share the gospel more than you do, or that you just don't quite know how to talk about Jesus in a natural way? If so, you’ll love this conversation with Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, and Mike Grenier as they talk about the implications our verse has on how we think about evangelism, and the 4 practical steps Mike offers for sharing your faith:

Don’t be afraid to share with people what you’re really enjoying about your faith and why Jesus is beautiful.
Ask questions. Be really interested in people as people, not as projects.
Don’t underestimate the impact of real-life hospitality.
Don’t be afraid to take risks. Don’t wait. God’s at work and he can take imperfect words and do great things with them.

Let’s bring the hope of the gospel to the people in our lives who, like us, need someone to tell them about the God who gives new hearts and new spirits!
This month’s memory verse: "I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh." — Ezekiel 36:26
Today's guest: Mike Grenier is an IT Manager with TE Connectivity. He and his wife, Emily, and their three kids live in Harrisburg, PA, where they're members of Community Evangelical Free Church. Mike serves in various ways at his church, and loves to help those unfamiliar with the Christian faith grapple with the big questions of life and introduce them to Jesus.

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Vera's Salvation Story Apr 17, 2024

“When you get to the end of yourself and you’re truly honest with yourself, and then you hear this, and you hear that God comes right then with the promises, ‘I’ll give you a new heart and put my spirit in you,’ that is so good.” — Vera Schmitz
We can be tempted to think we just need to be “cleaned up” before coming to Jesus, but our verse this month helps us see the amazing truth about a God who does far more than just clean things up—he brings dead things to life. Join Vera Schmitz and Natalie Abbott, sisters and co-founders of Dwell Differently, as they talk about the deep hope of Ezekiel 36:26. Hear Vera’s salvation story, what to do when you feel like your heart is stone cold, and the beauty of the gospel that is on offer for all!

This month’s memory verse: "I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh." — Ezekiel 36:26
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True Transformation // Nicole Zasowski Apr 10, 2024

"The very thing that we most deeply need as human beings we can’t actually do for ourselves. It’s the work of God in us.” — Natalie Abbott

What do you do when you find yourself not caring spiritually, when your heart feels cold toward God? What does it look like to have a heart that is soft toward the Lord? Join Natalie Abbott and Nicole Zasowski as they dig into how Ezekiel 36:26 continues to impact the lives of God’s people. They share practical hope for what to do when our hearts feel calloused, how to grab hold of what is true in times of struggle, and personal stories of God’s transforming work in their lives. We were so encouraged by this conversation and know you will be too!

This month’s memory verse: "I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh." — Ezekiel 36:26
Today's guest: Nicole Zasowski is a licensed marriage and family therapist, sought-after speaker, and author of What If It's Wonderful? and From Lost to Found. She lives in Connecticut with her husband and three young children. Nicole would love to connect with you on her website: www.nicolezasowski.com or on Instagram: @nicolezasowski.

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Ezekiel 36:26 Deep Dive // This Verse Has Been Following Me Around Apr 03, 2024

“God has given us his own Spirit, and that’s how as believers we are able, by the power of the Holy Spirit, to follow him and to do what is right. But so often, we don’t. And that’s where this verse has been following me around. This verse has been convicting my heart where it’s hard and convicting my spirit where it’s unwilling and not wanting to follow the Holy Spirit who is in me and to listen to his voice and his guidance.” — Natalie Abbott

Have you ever read a Bible verse that just keeps ringing in your ears in the best possible way? Join Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, as she helps us understand the context of this month’s memory verse, highlighting the depth of its beauty as we zoom out to see the big picture story of Scripture, how this verse fits into that story, and finally how this verse fits into the stories of our lives. This amazing promise that God gave Israel is good news for our hearts today as well.

This month’s memory verse: "I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh." — Ezekiel 36:26
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The Beauty We're Longing For // Jason Abbott Mar 27, 2024

“We have a God who first loved us…and sacrificed for us and served us, and that’s a beautiful, beautiful thing." — Jason Abbott

This month’s verse raises so many questions: Why is Jesus able to be a ransom for us? What does this verse teach us about the kingdom of God? How does our servant-King’s example impact the way we live our lives? What should I do when I know the right way to serve and love others but just don’t want to? Join Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, and her husband, Jason Abbott, as they talk about all this and more, reminding us of the absolute beauty of Jesus—the God who came to save us and to serve us.

This month’s memory verse: "For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many." — Mark 10:45
Today's Dwell guest: Dr. Jason Abbott is married to Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently. They have a big family of seven and spend a lot of time running around Jefferson City, Missouri, together. Jason has been in pastoral ministry for the past 20 years in the Evangelical Free Church of America. He’s currently the Senior Pastor at Central Church of Jefferson City, Missouri.

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Are You Keeping a Scorecard? Mar 20, 2024

“If we make Christ greater, then we are thinking of ourselves less…I just want my life to be about Christ…it’s Christ above all, Christ greatest, Christ more. That’s what I want. And so I think that if that is true of me, then service out of that is easier and also I stop vying for position and rank and approval.” — Vera Schmitz
Do you tend to keep a scorecard when it comes to serving others? Our verse this month, Mark 10:45, helps us reframe what serving like Jesus really means—especially when we come face to face with our self-serving tendencies. Tune in as Natalie Abbott and Vera Schmitz, sisters and co-founders of Dwell Differently, talk through the implications of this verse, what genuine humility really looks like, and how to truly live our lives in a way that echoes John the Baptist’s words in John 3:30: “He [Jesus] must become greater; I must become less.”
This month’s memory verse: "For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many." — Mark 10:45
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Flipping Greatness on Its Head // Caroline Saunders Mar 13, 2024

“Jesus is trying to flip everything you expect upside down so that you can see him as he actually is.” — Caroline Saunders

Caroline Saunders joins Dwell Differently’s Natalie Abbott for a super honest conversation about what greatness really is, how to explain the truth of this month’s memory verse to a 10-year-old, what a ransom is, and more. You won't want to miss the practical implications and encouragement they share, helping us serve others like our Savior has served us!

This month’s memory verse: "For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many." — Mark 10:45
Today's Dwell guest: Caroline Saunders is a writer, Bible teacher, pastor's wife, and mother of three who believes in taking Jesus seriously and being un-serious about nearly everything else. Her upcoming projects include her first women's Bible study called Come Home: Tracing God's Promise of Home in Scripture (May 2024, Lifeway Women) and a storybook Bible, Kids of the Bible Storybook (April 2024, B&H Kids). In every project, she seeks to use wit and wisdom to help others know and love God and His Word. Find her writing, resources, and ridiculousness at WriterCaroline.com and on Instagram @writercaroline.

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Mark 10:45 Deep Dive // What Do You Really Want Jesus to Do for You? Mar 06, 2024

“He came to serve us because we are actually incapable of doing the thing that we most desperately need, which is to be made right before God.” — Natalie Abbott

How would you answer the question Jesus asks twice in Mark 10: “What do you want me to do for you?”? If you’re anything like us, you may wrestle with what you think that answer should be and what it really is. Join Natalie Abbott to learn more about the context of this month’s memory verse, Mark 10:45, and to see what these three interactions Jesus has in Mark 10 reveal about what people wanted Jesus to do for them and what he really came to do for them—and for us. May you be in awe again today of our God who loves us and gave up his own life for our sake.

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Who's in Control? // Joanna Kimbrel Feb 28, 2024

When it comes to control, we often tend to fell like we have it all under control or like everything is spinning out of control. Our verse this month tells us neither is true. Jesus is the one who is in control. On todays episode our guest, Joanna Kimbrel, shares just how easy it is for us to live under the illusion of our self control, asking Natalie if she's been reading her journal. And she also shares specific times when she felt like everything feels out of control. Joanna tells us why we would want to give Jesus the reigns of our lives and she gives us practical advice for how we can make that happen.

This month’s memory verse: "He is before all things, and in him all things hold together" — Colossians 1:17
Today's Dwell guest: Joanna Kimbrel is a Bible teacher, a writer, and the coordinator of women’s initiatives for The Gospel Coalition. She is coauthor of Behold and Believe: A Bible Study on the “I Am” Statements of Jesus and author of The Greatest Hero: The Book of Romans. She is a student at Westminster Theological Seminary pursuing her Master of Arts in Theological Studies. Joanna and her husband, Chad, have three daughters and are members of Sojourn Community Church in Woodstock, Georgia.

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This Brings Peace Feb 21, 2024

“He sees everything, and there is a peace that comes when you remind yourself of how big and capable he is to hold all things together.” — Vera Schmitz

What do you do when peace feels elusive and all the plates that are spinning feel like they’re about to crash? Join Dwell Differently co-founders and sisters, Vera Schmitz and Natalie Abbott, as they talk about times they’ve felt a lack of control in their lives, share how praying the Lord’s Prayer has been so formative, and invite us to give the things that weigh heavy on us to a God who is fully capable of holding all things. Bonus: Vera and Natalie share a mini teaser about a big project Dwell Differently has been working on—you won’t want to miss it!

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When You're Brought to the End of Yourself // Jen Oshman Feb 14, 2024

“But the Lord, I believe, in his mercy brought me to the end of myself and just said, ‘Actually, Jen, you can’t do it all. You are not self made. You are not self-sufficient. I made you—and I made you for me. And that’s where you’re going to find peace.’” — Jen Oshman

What do you do when overwhelm strikes? Or when you find yourself in a place of relying only on your own efforts and self-sufficiency? Join Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, and Jen Oshman as they talk about what to do when we come to the end of ourselves, what this verse means for us in our suffering, and how remembering who Jesus is truly changes everything.
This month’s memory verse: "He is before all things, and in him all things hold together." — Colossians 1:17
Today's Dwell guest: Jen Oshman has been in women’s ministry for over two decades on three continents. She’s the author of Enough about Me and Cultural Counterfeits, she hosts a weekly podcast about cultural events and trends called All Things, and she is the mother of four daughters. Jen's family currently resides in Colorado, where they planted Redemption Parker.

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Colossians 1:17 Deep Dive // Jesus Is Holding It All Together Feb 07, 2024

If you've ever felt like everything depends on you (maybe you even feel that way right now), like you're the one holding it all together, then today's message is for you! Here is the good news: everything does not depend on you, you are not the one holding it all together. Jesus is. He made, sustains, and will redeems all things. And this is exactly the reminder our weary souls need. On today's episode, Natalie Abbott takes us to God's Word to help us see the beautiful truth of who Jesus is and why our response to that truth makes all the difference.

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Set Free from Fear, Control & Busyness (One of Our Most Helpful Episodes!) Jan 31, 2024

Have you ever struggled with fear, control, or busyness? Who doesn't?! We wanted to revisit this topic today by sharing one of our all-time most helpful episodes (first released in August 2022). Dwell Differently co-founder Vera Schmitz shares how memorizing specific truths from God's Word has helped set her free from these struggles in her own life. She relates how the truth about God's transcendent peace in Philippians 4:6–7 has helped her in anxious moments. She shares how Exodus 14:14 has reminded her to rely on God to fight for her. And she testifies about how the words of rest in Psalm 116:7 have come to mind in seasons of busyness. We hope that Vera's stories of freedom will be an encouragement to you as you consider how God's words have bolstered you when you've needed them.

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God's Purpose in Your Pain // Kristen Wetherell Jan 24, 2024

What is God's purpose for us in our pain and suffering? How do we walk through our trials in faithful prayer and even joy? In this episode, Kristen Wetherell answers these questions with vulnerable honesty. Kristen is a pastor's wife, busy mom of three, author, speaker, and she also suffers from chronic pain. In our conversation today, she helps us see how knowing God in his Word is absolutely essential—it's the lens through which all of life makes sense, especially in our suffering.
This month’s memory verse: "Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer " — Romans 12:12
Today's Dwell guest: Kristen Wetherell is a wife, mother, writer, and speaker. She is the author of several books, including Help for the Hungry Soul, and coauthor of the award-winning book Hope When It Hurts. Kristen is a member of the Orchard and lives in Chicagoland with her husband and three children.

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How Do We Live This Out? Jan 17, 2024

Our verse this month is Romans 12:12: "Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer." How in the world do we live like this? How do we have joy in our unrealized hopes? How do we patiently endure hardship? How do we faithfully pray in all of it? On today's episode, Natalie Abbott and Vera Schmitz wrestle through how they try (and often fail) to live like this, pointing us to the foundation and source of our joy, patience, and faithfulness: Jesus.
This month’s memory verse: "Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer" — Romans 12:12
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When I Don't Know What to Pray // Andrew Peterson & Doug McKelvey Jan 10, 2024

Have you ever wanted to pray but couldn't find the words? In today's episode, Natalie talks with Andrew Peterson and Doug McKelvey about prayer—how we find time to pray in the midst of our lives, how we find words to pray when words are elusive, and how God wants to meet us in all of our emotions and situations with himself.
This month’s memory verse: "Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer " — Romans 12:12
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Andrew Peterson is a recording artist, songwriter, producer, filmmaker, publisher and award-winning author of The Wingfeather Saga, Andrew Peterson is also founder and president of The Rabbit Room, which has published thirty books to date and fosters community and spiritual formation through music, story and art.
Doug McKelvey is an author, scriptwriter, church sexton, video director, and song lyricist—penning more than 350 lyrics recorded by a variety of artists including Switchfoot, Kenny Rogers, Ella Mine, and Jason Gray.

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Romans 12:12 Deep Dive // How to Wait Well Jan 03, 2024

Are you good at waiting? Do you want to be? Our verse this month is all about waiting well. In it, we're encouraged to be joyful and patient and faithful in the unrealized and even difficult parts of our lives. But how do we do that? Tune in as Natalie Abbott walks us through the book of Romans, looking at the themes we see in Romans 12:12, and pointing us to the God in whom we can have confidence while we wait.

This month’s memory verse: "Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer." — Romans 12:12
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2023 Wrap Up and 2024 Sneak Peek Dec 27, 2023

Join Vera and Natalie, sisters and Dwell Differently co-founders, as they look back at 2023 and take a sneak peak into some exciting updates for Dwell Differently in 2024. They talk about which verses impacted them the most, their favorite podcast guests of the year, and what they're looking forward to in the new year!
This month’s memory verse: "But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy." — Titus 3:4–5a
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Discover Everything You Long For // Tara-Leigh Cobble Dec 22, 2023

Tara-Leigh Cobble is convinced that everything we long for in life is found in knowing God and reading his Word—but she didn't always feel that way. In today's episode, she shares with Natalie Abbot her own story of how God moved her from a place of not wanting to read the Bible to actually loving it. She talks about being surprised and encouraged by some totally weird parts of the Bible, and shares about her passionate commitment to helping people understand the Bible on The Bible Recap podcast and other resources. Tara-Leigh also shares some practical advice for people on the fence about reading through the whole Bible. It is such a great episode, you won't want to miss it!
This month’s memory verse: "But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. " — Titus 3:4–5a
Today's Dwell guest: Tara-Leigh Cobble is a speaker, author, Bible teacher, and podcast host. Tara-Leigh is the Bible reader's trusted friend and guide, leading thousands of people through the Bible chapter by chapter every year, helping them understand the Bible and engage with God. She hosts The Bible Recap podcast and has numerous other resources available on her website.

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Jesus’s Perfection = Our Freedom Dec 20, 2023

Do you feel like you have to get everything right all of the time? On today's episode, Natalie Abbott and Vera Schmitz talk about the freedom Jesus offers us when we trust in his perfection instead of relying on our own performance. Vera shares honestly about her regular struggle of trying to prove her worth and how verses like Titus 3:4–5a help her refocus on the truth of Christ throughout her day. There's so much encouragement and practical advice in this episode not just for perfectionists, but for us all.
This month’s memory verse: "But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy." — Titus 3:4–5a
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The Impact of Memorizing Scripture // Randall Goodgame Dec 13, 2023

Randall Goodgame of Slugs and Bugs joins Natalie Abbott to talk about how memorizing Scripture has impacted his life. They dig into how he found freedom in pointing his kids to Jesus as a dad, the mercy and kindness of God in Titus 3:4–5a, and the ministry the Lord has given him to help families have fun and learn Scripture together!
This month’s memory verse: "But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. " — Titus 3:4–5a
Today's Dwell guest: Randall Goodgame is a singer/songwriter and the creative force behind Slugs & Bugs. He is passionate about helping kids and families know God’s Word—and have fun. He and his family live in Nashville, TN.

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Titus 3:4–5a Deep Dive // The Christmas Message You Need to Hear Dec 06, 2023

If you’re feeling overwhelmed with all the Christmas things, this episode is for YOU today! Listen in as Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, walks us through the context of this month’s memory verses, highlighting 3 things from the book of Titus: who we were, who we are, and being who we are. Jesus came—and he came for us. This is the kindness and love of God our Savior. This is "good tidings of great joy" for all people!

This month’s memory verse: "But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. " — Titus 3:4–5a
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Dads Who Dwell Differently // Jerrad Lopes and Matt Schmitz Nov 29, 2023

Tune into this raw conversation between Jarred Lopes of Dad Tired and Matt Schmitz (husband of Dwell Differently co-founder Vera Schmitz) as they offer real encouragement and hope for dads who want to find their identity in Jesus, be spiritual leaders in their homes, and walk in the freedom of the gospel. And for any men who long to live like this, but don’t (and for the women who love them), don’t miss the end of the episode where Jarred shares the miraculous story of how God rescued him out of the darkest time in his life and marriage, giving him hope and putting his feet on the right path.

This month’s memory verse: "For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." — Matthew 6:21
Today's Dwell guest: Jerrad Lopes is a Christian author, speaker, and the founder of Dad Tired. As a father of four, he knows first-hand that living as a leader in your home is a weighty calling. He is passionate about equipping men and fostering community where, together, men can live out the gospel. He and his wife, Leila, live in South Carolina with their four children.
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How Do I Know If Jesus Is My Treasure? Nov 22, 2023

Vera Schmitz brings us a heart check-up today: If we truly take inventory, are we just wanting the blessings of God, or are we wanting God himself? Tune in to hear a powerful quote from John Piper, the story of Vera’s battle with anxiety and what she learned in that season, and some helpful questions to evaluate what your heart is truly treasuring today.
This month’s memory verse: "For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." — Matthew 6:21
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Is Your Heart in Danger? Nov 15, 2023

Do you find yourself more afraid of losing earthly treasure than your spiritual health? Ouch. If we’re honest, we all find ourselves there sometimes, and today Natalie Abbott and Vera Schmitz want to help us reorient our hearts toward our greatest treasure: Jesus Christ. Tune in to hear them talk about the story behind this month’s verse design, an antidote to worry, and an encouragement to ask God to help us all treasure him first.
This month’s memory verse: "For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." — Matthew 6:21
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What Are You Chasing After? // Jerrad Lopes Nov 08, 2023

What comes to mind when you think of “treasure”? More importantly, what does Jesus say about it? Join Jerrad Lopes, founder of Dad Tired, and Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently as they dig into our memory verse for the month: Matthew 6:21. They take a look at the context of our verse, dig into what the Bible has to say about treasure and blessing, and share honestly about ways they are convicted by God’s call to treasure him more than any earthly thing. We hope you’ll be heartened by the beautiful truth that delighting in Jesus will offer far more treasure than all the other things we are chasing after—true and lasting treasure that can never be lost!
This month’s memory verse: "For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." — Matthew 6:21
Today's Dwell guest: Jerrad Lopes is a Christian author, speaker, and the founder of Dad Tired. As a father of four, he knows first-hand that living as a leader in your home is a weighty calling. He is passionate about equipping men and fostering community where, together, men can live out the gospel. He and his wife, Leila, live in South Carolina with their four children.

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Matthew 6:21 Deep Dive // The Safe Place for Your Heart Nov 01, 2023

“Is your heart wrapped up in something right now that it cannot lose? Something that's lasting, something that's dependable, something that won't break it. Is your heart confident, rested, and secure? Is your heart set on the incorruptible, unfading, forever treasures of heaven? Or, is your heart filled with something that it dreads losing?” — Natalie Abbott

Join Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, as she walks us through the context of Matthew 6:21, helping us see the contrast between earthly and heavenly treasures, evaluate what our hearts are really treasuring, and see Christ as the ultimate safe treasure for our hearts.
This month’s memory verse: "For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." — Matthew 6:21
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How Has God Shown Up in Your Life? // Sadie Robertson Huff and Christian Huff Oct 25, 2023

You won’t want to miss today’s episode with Sadie Robertson Huff and Christian Huff! Together with Natalie Abbott, they talk about why God is worth basing our whole life on, the overarching storyline of the Bible and how we see God’s faithfulness on display in it, how Sadie and Christian have seen God’s faithfulness in their own lives, and a word of hope to anyone listening who is struggling today. As we wrap up this month’s memory verse, may we be people who see the faithfulness of God and declare, “For this God is our God for ever and ever; he will be our guide even to the end” (Psalm 48:14).
This month’s memory verse: “For this God is our God for ever and ever; he will be our guide even to the end.” — Psalm 48:14
Today's Dwell guests: Sadie Robertson Huff is a speaker, New York Times bestselling author, influencer, and founder of Live Original. She is married to Christian Huff, host of the 4:8 Men Podcast. Together they are on a mission to see lives changed by the Gospel of Jesus. They reside in Louisiana with their two beautiful daughters.
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Not Our Faithfulness, but God's Oct 18, 2023

What motivates our faithfulness? What can we learn about being faithful to God from the lives of other Christians? And what do we do when we realize that we've failed? Join Natalie Abbott and Vera Schmitz, sister and co-founders of Dwell Differently, as they talk about these questions and more! Want to learn more about the discussion questions they talk through today? Check out the Dwell Differently Membership—all members have access to unique questions every month to help apply the memory verse and have God-centered conversations with family and friends!
This month’s memory verse: “For this God is our God for ever and ever; he will be our guide even to the end.” — Psalm 48:14
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A Guide You Can Trust // Elizabeth Woodson Oct 11, 2023

How do we know who “this God” from Psalm 48:14 really is? And how can we be sure that he will be our God for ever and ever? Join Natalie Abbott and Elizabeth Woodson as they zoom out to help us see the big picture of what Scripture says about the faithfulness of God. They dig into why God's faithfulness is a theme in our verse, why it’s such good news that God is faithful (even when we are faithless), what it means that God is our guide, and how we can pass this declaration along to the next generation. May memorizing and meditating on our memory verse this month help you declare this pledge of faithfulness to our God who is faithful!

This month’s memory verse: “For this God is our God for ever and ever; he will be our guide even to the end.” — Psalm 48:14
Today's Dwell guest: Elizabeth Woodson is a Bible teacher, theologian, author, and the Founder of The Woodson Institute, an organization that equips believers to understand and grow in their Christian faith. She loves helping people internalize their faith and connect it practically to everyday life. She is the author of the book Embrace Your Life: How To Find Joy When The Life You Have Is Not The Life You Hoped For and From Beginning To Forever: A Study of the Grand Narrative of Scripture.
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Psalm 48:14 Deep Dive // Tracing God’s Presence with His People Oct 04, 2023

Have you ever wondered how modern believers should view the Old Testament and its promises? What can we learn from Israel’s talk about the City of God? Join Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, as she walks us through the context of Psalm 48, zooms out to look at God’s presence with his people from Genesis through Revelation, and helps reflect on the good news that this God—the God who dwells with his people—is our God for ever and ever.

This month’s memory verse: "For this God is our God for ever and ever; he will be our guide even to the end." — Psalm 48:14
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3 Things I’ve Learned about Loving My Enemy Sep 27, 2023

Join Vera Schmitz, co-founder of Dwell Differently, as she reflects on what she’s been learning this month from Luke 6:27. She shares 3 takeaways from her own life about loving her enemy, and reminds us that because Jesus loved us when we were his enemies, we can also love our enemies.
This month’s memory verse: “But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you.” — Luke 6:27
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Love Like Jesus Sep 20, 2023

Vera is BACK and she has an exciting update to share! Today Natalie and Vera are talking all about our verse this month and how this hard call to love our enemies is really just loving the way Jesus loves. They talk about what to do if you can’t easily think of an “enemy,” how Jesus has been turning enemies into friends since he called his first disciples, and how when we remember that we were once God’s enemies who are now his friends we can extend his otherworldly love to others.
This month’s memory verse: “But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you.” — Luke 6:27
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How This Missionary Loves Ukrainian Refugees and Their Enemies // Madison Perekotiy Sep 13, 2023

We are so glad to have Madison Perekotiy on the podcast today to talk about what it means to love our enemies with the love of Christ. Madison and her Ukrainian-born husband Yuriy have been full-time missionaries since 2018, first in Ukraine and now in Romania. In this episode, she and Natalie talk about what it’s like to have enemies in an ongoing war, how the character of God helps us to make sense of difficult circumstances, why the gospel is so important to remember when we are tempted to hate instead of love, and why the future restoration of all things offers great hope in the here and now.

This month’s memory verse: “But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you.” — Luke 6:27
Today's Dwell guest: Madison Perekotiy is a follower of Jesus, wife to her Ukrainian husband Yuriy, and mom to four Amerikrainian kiddos! They have been full-time missionaries since 2018, first in Ukraine and now in Romania. Madison's heartbeat has always been for the vulnerable, fatherless, and for families. She is currently in grad school studying social work and applying that to what they do with Ukrainian refugees.
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Luke 6:27 Deep Dive // This Is A Non-Negotiable Sep 06, 2023

Is loving our enemies really a non-negotiable for Christians? If we're being honest, our verse this month is a hard one to live out. What is Jesus calling us to believe that we aren’t believing? Why is it a non-negotiable to love our enemies? And how can we live that way? Join Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, as she walks us through the context of this passage, looking at the 2 ways of living Jesus talks about, why loving our enemies is non-negotiable, and the difference it makes when we consider the mercy of God and his kindness toward us. We pray this verse would take root today, encouraging you to live in a way that is beautiful and otherworldly and, most importantly, like our Father.
This month’s memory verse: “But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you.” — Luke 6:27
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BONUS EPISODE: What If Creativity Was an Others-Focused Activity? // Ashlee Gadd Aug 30, 2023

We are so excited to share this special bonus episode with you today!
Have you ever thought that creativity was limited to scrapbooking, or that you just aren't a "creative person"? Ashlee Gadd, author of Create Anyway, is joining Natalie Abbott to talk about why being created in the image of God informs how we should view creativity, why creativity doesn't need to be a selfish pursuit, and how motherhood and creativity collide. May you be inspired to use the creativity God has given you to serve others for his glory!

This month’s memory verse: “Therefore, as God’s chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience.” — Colossians 3:12
Today's Dwell guest: Ashlee Gadd is author of Create Anyway: The Joy of Pursuing Creativity in the Margins of Motherhood and the founder of Coffee + Crumbs—a beautiful online space where motherhood and storytelling intersect. As a writer and photographer, Ashlee has spent her entire motherhood creating in the margins. When she's not writing or vacuuming Cheerios out of the carpet, she loves making friends on the internet, eating cereal for dinner, and rearranging bookshelves. She and her husband have three kids and live in Northern California.
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Does Living Out This Verse Feel Impossible? Aug 23, 2023

Does it ever feel impossible to clothe yourself with compassion, kindness, gentleness, humility, and patience? On today’s episode, Dwell team member Lindsay Tully is sharing a story about how God has used this month’s verse in her family’s life. Tune in to hear where to start when we realize we’re failing, a creative way to remember this month’s verse, and an encouragement to remember you’re not alone as you seek to put on the new clothes Christ give his people.

This month’s memory verse: “Therefore, as God’s chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience.” — Colossians 3:12
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Jesus > Others > You Aug 16, 2023

Where is your gaze today? If you’re anything like us, you might be finding your gaze is far too often on yourself first instead of on Jesus. Listen in as Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, and Lindsay Tully, Dwell Differently editor and writer, look to God’s Word to offer hope when we’re struggling to put on the new “clothes” this verse calls us to wear. They take a look at how Jesus specifically describes himself with some of the attributes from our verse in the book of Matthew, talk about a helpful framework for how to prioritize who and what we focus on, and reflect on Tim Keller’s helpful definition of biblical humility.
This month’s memory verse: “Therefore, as God’s chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience.” — Colossians 3:12
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Redefining "Be Who You Are" // Glenna Marshall Aug 09, 2023

We are thrilled to have Glenna Marshall back again to talk about one of her favorite hacks for prioritizing Scripture memory in her life, the 3 things Colossians 3:12 reminds us are true of believers followed by the 5 virtues we are called to put on, and what to do when we try to obey but fail. We are right here with you, seeking to memorize God's Word and live the way he's called us to, and we know this episode will be an encouragement to you!
This month’s memory verse: “Therefore, as God’s chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience.” — Colossians 3:12
Today's Dwell guest: Glenna Marshall is a pastor’s wife and mother of two sons. She is the author of The Promise is His Presence, Everyday Faithfulness, and Memorizing Scripture. She writes regularly at GlennaMarshall.com on biblical literacy, suffering, and the faithfulness of God. She is a member of Grace Bible Fellowship in Sikeston, Missouri.
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Colossians 3:12 Deep Dive // Chosen, Holy, and Dearly Loved Aug 02, 2023

Do you ever wonder how God sees you? If you’ve trusted in Jesus, the beginning words of our verse this month are balm for our souls: chosen, holy, and dearly loved. Join Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, as she walks us through the context of this verse and the vital place we need to start before we try to tackle living out the virtues listed in Colossians 3:12. There is freedom awaiting us when we rely on God as we seek to live as he’s called us to!

This month’s memory verse: “Therefore, as God’s chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience.” — Colossians 3:12
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What Do You Evangelize About? Jul 26, 2023

What does it mean to make Jesus great in our lives? April Harper, CEO of Dwell Differently, asks us some super practical questions today to help us identify what we are holding up as great to those around us. What do you functionally act like you're more excited about than Jesus? Would others see his greatness by what you say, or are other messages coming through more clearly? If we believe that Jesus is our greatest good, how can our words and actions reflect that? Praise God, he is at work to help us as we seek to magnify him!
This month’s memory verse: “He must become greater; I must become less.” — John 3:30
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Where Is Your Spotlight Shining? Jul 19, 2023

You won’t want to miss today’s episode with Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, and April Harper, Dwell Differently’s CEO, as they dig into John 3:30 and what they’ve been learning this month. Natalie and April share how this verse is convicting them, a prideful moment April wishes she could take back, what we should be asking ourselves after an accomplishment, and how we can live lives that give glory to God.

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How to War against Pride // Trillia Newbell Jul 12, 2023

Do you catch yourself being more prideful than you'd like to admit? Pride is a difficult battle for all of us, and today Trillia Newbell and Natalie Abbott help us learn from Scripture how we can war well against pride. Looking at John the Baptist's famous words in John 3:30, they walk us through their own struggles with pride, why John the Baptist was able to say what he did about Jesus, and the freedom awaiting us when we worship the Lord for who he is and see ourselves as he sees us: covered in Jesus's righteousness.
This month’s memory verse: “He must become greater; I must become less.” — John 3:30
Today's Dwell guest: Trillia Newbell is the author of several books including A Great Cloud of Witnesses, Sacred Endurance, If God Is For Us, Fear and Faith, and the children’s books, Creative God, Colorful Us and God’s Very Good Idea. When she isn’t writing, she’s encouraging and supporting other writers as the Acquisitions Director at Moody Publishers.Trillia is married to her best friend, Thern, they reside with their two children near Nashville, TN. You can find her at trillianewbell.com and follow her on instagram at @trillianewbell.
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John 3:30 Deep Dive // Are You Jealous of Jesus? Jul 05, 2023

As humans, we have a perennial tendency to focus on ourselves. We are all hungry for glory, and can try to put ourselves in the spotlight instead of Jesus. And John the Baptist's words in John 3:30 help us to see this sneaky tendency we all have—our longing for greatness—and put it in its proper place. John understood who he was, and he understood who Jesus was, and that made all the difference. Join Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, as she unpacks the context of John 3:30 for us today, helping us see the starting point for our humility, and how dwelling on the true greatness of Jesus is the antidote to our struggle against focusing on ourselves.

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A Prayer for When I Feel Afraid Jun 28, 2023

Surprise! This month’s wrap up comes from Natalie Abbott (Vera will be back soon)! We know you’ll be encouraged as Natalie prays the truth of Scripture over us today. May God's peace be present as you remember who he is and how he has been at work in your life. Because our God is our light, our salvation, and our stronghold, we can face whatever circumstances come our way with courage, knowing that we are not alone, but are held and protected by the God of the universe.
This month’s memory verse: “The Lord is my light and my salvation—whom shall I fear? The Lord is the stronghold of my life— of whom shall I be afraid?” — Psalm 27:1
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Why Do We Get So Afraid? Jun 21, 2023

Why do we get so afraid? And what is our first response when we feel fear? Join Vera Schmitz and Natalie Abbott, sisters and co-founders of Dwell Differently, as they talk all about fear—their irrational fears, their real fears, and where fearfulness is actually rooted. They look at two responses to fear, and share Scripture passages that have been helpful when they experience fear and anxiety. There is hope to be found today, right in the middle of our battles against fear, as we remember who God is!
This month’s memory verse: “The Lord is my light and my salvation—whom shall I fear? The Lord is the stronghold of my life— of whom shall I be afraid?” — Psalm 27:1
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Be Strong and Take Courage // Jamie Ivey Jun 14, 2023

Today’s guest, Jamie Ivey, digs into Psalm 27:1 with Dwell Differently co-founder Natalie Abbott. Listen in to hear some of Jamie’s biggest fears, when this verse became a lifeline for her, and what it really means that God is our light, our salvation, and our stronghold. We know you’ll be encouraged as Jamie and Natalie remind us that Jesus and his Word are never changing in our ever changing world, and we pray that you would have victory over your fears today as you remember who our God is!

This month’s memory verse: “The Lord is my light and my salvation—whom shall I fear? The Lord is the stronghold of my life— of whom shall I be afraid?” — Psalm 27:1
Today's Dwell guest: Jamie Ivey is an author, speaker, podcast host of “The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivey” and host of the parenting podcast "Launch."
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Psalm 27:1 Deep Dive // How You Can Overcome Fear Jun 07, 2023

Would you like to know how to overcome fear in your life? Join Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, as she shows us what God’s Word says about how we can conquer our fear. In Psalm 27:1, King David gives us 3 images of who God is as a way to battle against the fear that is threatening to overwhelm him, and we can do the same thing today! As we understand and remember who our God is, our fears fall into the proper place, losing the power to overwhelm us. In whatever battle you find yourself in today, take heart remembering that God defends his children. He is our light, our salvation, and our place of safety.
This month’s memory verse: “The Lord is my light and my salvation—whom shall I fear? The Lord is the stronghold of my life— of whom shall I be afraid?” — Psalm 27:1
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How a Simple Act of Generosity Can Change a Life // Jonathan Almonte May 31, 2023

You won't want to miss hearing the story of Jonathan Almonte’s life—born in poverty in the Dominican Republic, unable to attend school, burdened with medical challenges, and contemplated becoming part of a gang—all interrupted in the best way by God caring for him through a local church, Compassion International, and his sponsor. Not only was Jonathan’s life changed, but his family came to know Christ as well. And all this came about because of the way God used a woman from Michigan named Jamie, who chose to sponsor a child in her 20s instead of getting a new car. How can you share what God has given you to bless others and point them to Jesus? We’d love to challenge you to consider sponsoring a child through Compassion International as a way to practically love others. Sign up here and receive a bonus Dwell Differently kit!

This month’s memory verse: “Each of you should use whatever gift you have received to serve others, as faithful stewards of God’s grace in its various forms.” — 1 Peter 4:10
Today's Dwell guest: Jonathan Almonte, manager of Supporter Engagement of Compassion Dominican Republic, is passionate about empowering the next generation, bringing hope to the hopeless, and mobilizing the Church into action. He is also the founder of Doulos Liderazgo, Servicio, y Amor, a ministry which provides leadership training to local churches and cares for people’s spiritual and emotional needs through mentorship programs and camps. Jonathan lives in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic, with his wife, Kary, and son, JD.
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Let Others Shine by Letting Go of Control May 24, 2023

Today on the podcast, Dwell Differently co-founder Vera Schmitz is asking one question: Are your control issues keeping others from using their gifts to serve God and serve others? It can be hard at times to take a step back and invite others to use the gifts and abilities God has given them, and Vera walks us through what this has looked like in her own life. We pray this episode will spark a renewed excitement for the ways God has uniquely gifted all believers and calls us to work together for his glory and our good!
This month’s memory verse: “Each of you should use whatever gift you have received to serve others, as faithful stewards of God’s grace in its various forms.” — 1 Peter 4:10
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How Can God Use Me? May 17, 2023

Have you ever felt afraid to use the gifts God has given you? Have you ever thought you were inadequate, or maybe even that the ways God has given you to serve others feel mundane and insignificant? We can relate! Join Vera Schmitz and Natalie Abbott, co-founders of Dwell Differently, as they remind us that in God’s economy, there’s no small thing. As stewards (not owners) of these gifts, we can trust him as the gift giver to equip us with all we need to serve where he’s called us. It’s all from him and for him!
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Stepping into Your Gifting // Heather MacFadyen May 10, 2023

Have you ever felt unsure of how God has gifted you? As Heather MacFadyen says, we’ve all been called to make disciples, but the where and how will look different in everyone’s lives—and that is freeing! Join author and podcaster Heather MacFadyen as she talks with Natalie Abbott about how to identify what God has uniquely equipped you to do, why God gives gifts to his people, and how to not miss out on the goodness that God has for you.
This month’s memory verse: “Each of you should use whatever gift you have received to serve others, as faithful stewards of God’s grace in its various forms.” — 1 Peter 4:10
Today's Dwell guest: Heather MacFadyen is the host of the popular parenting podcast Don't Mom Alone, with more than 20 million downloads from around the globe, as well as the author of the books Right Where You Belong and Don't Mom Alone. She finds great joy in connecting other women to mentors and experts through her podcast and in speaking at live events with women across the country. She and her husband and their four sons live in Dallas, Texas. Learn more at www.heathermacfadyen.com.
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1 Peter 4:10 Deep Dive // Why Serve? May 03, 2023

This month on the podcast, we’re talking all about gifts. God tells us in his Word that he has given all of us gifts, but in a world where we are bombarded with messages to live our best lives, focus on our own happiness, and put ourselves first, we can easily miss the why behind the gifts God has given. Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, walks us through the context of 1 Peter 4:10, helping us understand what this verse is saying and what it means for how we live our lives. If you’re stuck living with a scarcity mindset or just need a bit of encouragement to rediscover the joy of using your gifts to serve others, you’re in the right place!

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Remember Who Won Apr 26, 2023

We know that Jesus raised from the dead, defeating sin and Satan and death. And we know that if we are in Christ, Jesus’s victory is true of us too. But all too often, we don’t live like Jesus has already won—we slip into being stressed and fearful and discouraged as our situations loom large in our minds. Join Vera Schmitz, co-founder of Dwell Differently, as she shares a story from her own life about this and points us again to the reality of the gospel and the real difference Jesus’s victory makes in our day-to-day struggles and stressors. We are a forgetful bunch of humans, but there is hope!
This month’s memory verse: “He is not here; he has risen, just as he said.” — Matthew 28:6a
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Resurrection Every Day Apr 19, 2023

As Christians, the resurrection can sometimes seem like something we only focus on at Easter, but the resurrection of Jesus has implications that reach far beyond an Easter Sunday church service. Join Vera Schmitz and Natalie Abbott, co-founders of Dwell Differently, as they talk about why the resurrection matters and makes a difference in our everyday lives. Don’t miss Vera’s book recommendations and the question about the resurrection she has for Natalie—maybe you’ve wondered about it before too!
This month’s memory verse: “He is not here; he has risen, just as he said.” — Matthew 28:6a
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Matthew 28:6a Deep Dive // This Is Central Apr 12, 2023

This month, we are memorizing beautiful words about a promise fulfilled—words on the lips of an angel. Words spoken to women who were desperate and mourning the loss not only of their friend, but of the man whom they had believed was the Messiah. The truth of the resurrection of Jesus Christ is central to the Christian faith, but it can sometimes be hard to wrap our minds around its implications—not just for the past, but also for our present and future. Join Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, as she unpacks this incredible truth and explores 4 things that we can learn from the resurrection.
This month’s memory verse: “He is not here; he has risen, just as he said.” — Matthew 28:6a
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How Do I Talk to My Friends about Easter? // Rebecca McLaughlin Apr 05, 2023

How can we talk with unbelievers about the truth of the resurrection in a way that makes sense? We all know it can be difficult—and sometimes intimidating—to talk about, but Jesus’s resurrection from the dead is central to the Christian faith. Join Natalie Abbott and Rebecca McLaughlin as they talk about how they connect with unbelievers when initiating conversations about the resurrection of Jesus, how the resurrection offers us great hope, what Jesus accomplished for us in his death and resurrection, and an important question Jesus asks in the Gospel of John that we should all be asking. The truth of our verse this month makes all the difference, and we know this episode will be an encouragement to you as you prepare to celebrate the reality of Easter and have conversations with others about the true hope offered in Christ!

This month’s memory verse: “He is not here; he has risen, just as he said.” — Matthew 28:6a
Today's Dwell guest: Rebecca McLaughlin holds a Ph.D. in Renaissance Literature from Cambridge University and a theology degree from Oak Hill College in London. She is the author of Confronting Christianity: 12 Hard Questions for the World's Largest Religion (2019), which was named book of the year by Christianity Today, and of 10 Questions Every Teen Should Ask (and Answer) about Christianity (2021), The Secular Creed: Engaging 5 Contemporary Claims (2021), and Is Christmas Unbelievable? Four Questions Everyone Should Ask About the World's Most Famous Story (2021). She lives in Cambridge Massachusetts with her husband, Bryan, and their three children.
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Get Your Heart Ready for Easter with These Readings Mar 29, 2023

Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, wants to read God’s Word over you today. As we prepare to celebrate Easter, hear the truth about why the resurrection matters; slow down to remember that this good news is for us today; and meditate on the promise, power, and hope we have because Jesus is alive! If you want to follow along, open your Bible to 1 Corinthians 15:1–8, 12–28, 50–58; Romans 6:1–14; and Ephesians 1:18–23.

This month’s memory verse: “Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says.” — James 1:22
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Are You Seeing Yourself Clearly? // April Harper Mar 22, 2023

April Harper, CEO of Dwell Differently, is today’s podcast host! Listen in as April reflects on what she’s learned from this month’s verse, James 1:22. She shares a great quote from Paul Tripp’s book Do You Believe?, talks about how this verse intersects with what the Lord taught her this year at IF:Gathering, and prays over us all, that we would know what God wants us to know and do what he wants us to do. You won’t want to miss it!
This month’s memory verse: “Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says.” — James 1:22
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Help! I’m Struggling with the Same Things Over and Over Mar 15, 2023

Our verse this month is not a call to just pull up our “good Christian bootstraps.” And that is good news! Join Natalie Abbott and Vera Schmitz, co-founders of Dwell Differently, as they share their real struggles with living this out, talk through practical questions we all have, and discuss real-life application for James 1:22. Are our good works what save us? What do we do when we find ourselves struggling with the same thing again and again? What does it mean to live in the Spirit and rely on God to help us? If you ever wondered those things, you won’t want to miss out on this honest conversation!
This month’s memory verse: “Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says.” — James 1:22
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Do You Really Believe God’s Word? // Tara Sun Mar 08, 2023

If you took inventory of your day-to-day choices, would they reveal you're following after Jesus? Or are you merely listening to the Bible but not believing it enough to live out what it says? Those can be hard questions to sit with (for us, too!), but they’re important. We all know the struggle to live out what we know to be true, but there is hope for us! In this episode, Tara Sun joins Dwell Differently co-founder Natalie Abbott to dig into what it means to be a disciple of Jesus, how to prioritize the right things in our busy lives, how we tend to get tripped up when we read this verse, and the good news about where our justification from God really comes from. As Tara says, may you know God’s Word, love God’s Word, and live God’s Word. We’re here alongside you for the journey!

This month’s memory verse: “Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says.” — James 1:22
Today's Dwell guest: Through the Truth Talks with Tara podcast, her Instagram community, her book Surrender Your Story,and other resources, Tara Sun passionately teaches women of all ages how to know, love, and live God’s Word for themselves. She shows how to break down God’s Word into understandable pieces, while also adding an artistic flare through her digital art. Tara is married to her high school sweetheart, Michael, and is a mom to their newest addition, Hunter. You’ll find them living and serving the Lord in Oregon.
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James 1:22 Deep Dive // Do My Everyday Decisions Really Matter? Mar 01, 2023

What is God’s Word supposed to do in our lives? And is my obedience really that important? We’re so glad you’re here today as Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, unpacks James 1:22 for us, answering important questions, digging into the context, and helping us avoid 2 common dangers when reading this verse. Our prayer is that you would see James 1:22—which can feel a little bit like a kick in the pants—as a kindness from God, convicting us where we need it, and inviting us to live life in community as we seek to follow Jesus in our everyday lives. As Natalie says, “I hope that it brings us to a place of repentance and restoration, which is God’s heart for us as his people.”

This month’s memory verse: “Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says.” — James 1:22
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3 Barriers to Receiving the Everlasting Love of God // Vera Schmitz Feb 22, 2023

“It’s not about me, it’s not about what I say. It’s about what God says about you and about himself. He loves you with an everlasting love.” — Vera Schmitz
This month’s memory verse: “I have loved you with an everlasting love; I have drawn you with unfailing kindness.” — Jeremiah 31:3b
Today’s podcast: If you’re a human being listening today, you’re going to resonate with the 3 things Vera shares that can be roadblocks to feeling like we can receive God’s everlasting love for us. Listen in as she not only helps us to understand what those things are, but shares verses from Scripture to help us combat those lies and root our minds in the truth of God’s Word. And don’t miss the inside scoop at the end about why we created a new necklace featuring Jeremiah 31:3b with our friends at Starfish Project. We even have a special discount code exclusively for our podcast listeners all month long!
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Do You Believe You Have To Earn God's Love? // Vera & Natalie Feb 15, 2023

“Sometimes I think we think this promise is something that we earn, or that we get when we're good enough, or when we’re doing all the right things. But the beauty of this promise is the context of the promise: when we fail, when we are faithless, God is still faithful. God still loves us. He draws us with unfailing kindness—the kind of kindness that doesn’t fail. That’s who our God is.” — Natalie Abbott
This month’s memory verse: “I have loved you with an everlasting love; I have drawn you with unfailing kindness.” — Jeremiah 31:3b
Today’s podcast: We’re so glad you’re joining Natalie Abbott and Vera Schmitz, sisters and co-founders of Dwell Differently, as they talk about Jeremiah 31:3b today. Listen in to hear their ideal podcast walk out song, what happens when we look to people for the love that only God can give, and the truly good news about how God’s love is different—and far better—than the love we experience anywhere else. What would your life look like today if you really believed that God’s love is everlasting and his kindness is unfailing? God loves you even in the midst of your mess, and we pray that your understanding of his love for you would grow as we memorize the Bible together!
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Love That's Bigger Than Our Rebellion // Cindy Bultema Feb 08, 2023

“It was then, in the midst of my mess, that I encountered Jesus. And I kept thinking, ‘How come no one ever told me? How come no one ever told me about God and his unbelievable love—even for a messed up woman like me?’” — Cindy Bultema
This month’s memory verse: “I have loved you with an everlasting love; I have drawn you with unfailing kindness.” — Jeremiah 31:3b
Today’s podcast: It’s February, and Valentine’s Day is right around the corner! In this month where we celebrate love, we wanted to stop and look at God’s everlasting love. Join Natalie Abbott as she talks with Cindy Bultema, Executive Director of GEMS Girls’ Clubs, about this month’s verse: Jeremiah 31:3b. You won’t want to miss Cindy’s testimony of how God rescued her, what to do when we find ourselves looking for love in people and places that are not God, and why this verse was so significant not only for the original hearers in Jeremiah’s day but for our lives today as well. May you be encouraged as you hear these stories of God’s everlasting love and unfailing kindness!
Today's Dwell guest: Cindy Bultema is a wife, mom of four, author, and Executive Director of GEMS Girls’ Clubs. She loves traveling the world sharing with women of all ages and stages about the fullness and freedom available through Christ.
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Good News in the Midst of Our Mess // Natalie Abbott Feb 01, 2023

“This is a verse not spoken in a place of perfection and goodness and righteousness…but a place of mess and of need and even of God’s rebuke. In this midst of their sin, God says this to [his people]: 'I have loved you with an everlasting love; I have drawn you with unfailing kindness.'” — Natalie Abbott
This month’s memory verse: “I have loved you with an everlasting love; I have drawn you with unfailing kindness.” — Jeremiah 31:3b
Today’s podcast: What should we do when we feel unlovable? Join Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, as she digs into the context of the book of Jeremiah, helping us to see the richness of God’s unfailing love for people like us who just keep messing up. In the midst of the drumbeat of impending judgement throughout Jeremiah, there is also the heartbeat of God’s love for his people—calling them to return to him, showing his faithfulness in the face of their faithlessness. And this is still our God today, calling out to us in the middle of our wandering and wavering and offering us instead a secure, safe place with him in his steadfast love. Who can you share this love with this month?
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Words That Bring Light // Vera Schmitz Jan 26, 2023

“For each of us—no matter who you are, no matter how mentally tough you are—there are things in our lives we are believing that are not true. Or maybe we need guidance in our life. And God’s Word is saying here in this verse, in Psalm 119:105, that his Word is the light and the lamp for our path.” — Vera Schmitz

This month’s memory verse: “Your word is a lamp for my feet, a light on my path.” — Psalm 119:105
Today’s podcast: We all know what darkness is—we know what it feels like and how we try to avoid it. The good news in our verse this month is that God’s Word is a lamp and a light, breaking through the darkness around us and in us, illuminating our path. In today’s episode, Vera shares about her struggle with anxiety and how the practice of “breathing Scripture” has helped her to memorize and meditate on truth to help her remember what God has said when her mind is spinning. He is faithful to bring light to our darkness through the truth of his Word, and we pray that as you memorize the Bible along with us, you will experience the light his Word brings as well!
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Training for the Olympics, Training for Life // Kelsie Holahan Jan 19, 2023

“God’s Word is this lamp, it’s a light. It makes a way in the darkness. It shows you the path where you should be going.” — Vera Schmitz

This month’s memory verse: “Your word is a lamp for my feet, a light on my path.” — Psalm 119:105
Today’s podcast: As we celebrate the 5 year anniversary of Dwell Differently, Vera Schmitz, co-founder of Dwell, talks with her good friend Kelsie Holahan about how Dwell came to be. Listen in as they share about their days of training together for the Olympic trials as pole vaulters, why Vera started writing Bible verses on her arm, and how the mental fortitude they developed in training has helped them replace lies with truth in their everyday lives.
Today's Dwell guest: Kelsie Holahan is a 2016 Rio Olympian, nurse, wife, mom, and good friend of Vera's. We're so glad to have her on the show today!
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How God’s Word Brought Light into the Darkest Season of My Life // Lauren McAfee Jan 12, 2023

“To be able to look to Scripture in the dark times, and look to Christ in those dark seasons of my life, gave me hope that brought light into the darkness and really was just a foundation for me when it felt like the earth beneath me was shaken and shattering.” — Lauren McAfee
This month’s memory verse: “Your word is a lamp for my feet, a light on my path.” — Psalm 119:105
Today’s podcast: Have you ever walked through a season of darkness and longed for light? Today’s episode is a special one as we welcome back Dwell’s very first podcast guest, Lauren McAfee. She shares about how God’s Word has brought light in seasons of significant grief. We know you’ll be encouraged as you hear her passion for knowing God through his Word, what spending time in the Bible practically looks like for her, and how to discern which path to take when there is more than one good choice. We have one prayer for you (and us) this year: that we would be people who are in God’s Word—reading it, studying it, memorizing it, applying it, and letting it shape us—because it is from God himself and is for our flourishing as we come to know and love him more.
Today's Dwell guest: Lauren McAfee is a wife and mom who works at the Hobby Lobby corporate office and is currently pursuing a PhD in ethics. She is a speaker and an author, and is passionate about knowing and loving the Bible.
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Lessons from a Rule Lover // Natalie Abbott Jan 05, 2023

“We walk in a dark place. This is inherently saying that we need God’s Word to light the way. We are not the light—we need God to be the light, to shine a light on our path and to illuminate where it is we are supposed to go. We need God’s Word.” — Natalie Abbott
This month’s memory verse: “Your word is a lamp for my feet, a light on my path.” — Psalm 119:105
Today’s podcast: When you hear the word “law,” does it make you bristle a bit, or do you want to start composing a love poem? Join Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, as she walks us through 3 important questions as we memorize and and meditate on Psalm 119:105 this month. This important verse, and important chapter, in God’s Word helps set the tone for us as we think about the Bible and how we interact with and respond to it in our daily lives. We know you’ll be encouraged as you see afresh the benefits and beauty of the Word of God!
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Behind the Scenes with Dwell in 2022 // Vera & Natalie Dec 29, 2022

“We’re not just putting verses on stuff to put verses on stuff. If it’s not going to bring life and push forward the Word for the good of God’s people, then we’re not going to do it.” — Vera Schmitz
This month’s memory verse: “Arise, shine, for your light has come, and the glory of the LORD rises upon you.” — Isaiah 60:1
Today’s podcast: Here’s your chance to hear a behind-the-scenes conversation with Vera Schmitz and Natalie Abbott, co-founders of Dwell Differently! Hear about their favorite designs and verses from this past year, what they’ve learned and what’s stuck with them, and find out about the “Dwell Vault” for members. You won’t want to miss the special sneak peak at what’s coming in 2023!
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BONUS EPISODE: How to Read the Whole Bible in One Year // Tara-Leigh Cobble Dec 26, 2022

“You can read the whole Bible in a year in about 12 minutes a day…it’s 1% of your day that’s going to change the whole other 99%.” — Tara-Leigh Cobble

We are so excited to share this special bonus episode with you today!
Have you ever started reading through the Bible and then stopped soon after starting because it felt hard or you were confused? Here at Dwell, while we focus in on memorizing and meditating on one verse a month together, we also have a passion for knowing the whole counsel of Scripture. We can’t wait for you to hear today’s episode with Tara-Leigh Cobble, Bible teacher, podcast host, and author of The Bible Recap. Our prayer is that we would all grow in our knowledge of and love for God through his Word, and we’d love to invite you to join The Bible Recap to read through the whole Bible in 2023!
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Anticipation and Awe // Vera Schmitz Dec 22, 2022

“So often we get so caught up in our own individual lives that our heads are down and we’re doing all the things and we forget that we have God’s light in us and that we can shine—that we are called to be a city on a hill that cannot be hidden, and we are to point other people to Jesus.” — Vera Schmitz

This month’s memory verse: “Arise, shine, for your light has come, and the glory of the LORD rises upon you.” — Isaiah 60:1
Today’s podcast: What if Jesus came back today? What would you want your life to look like on the day he returns? Vera Schmitz, co-founder of Dwell Differently, is bringing us 3 reflections on Isaiah 60:1 today—and telling us why Isaiah 60 is one of her favorite chapters in the whole Bible. May your awe of the King of the universe grow today as we anticipate the return of Christ!
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Arise and Shine // Vera & Natalie Dec 15, 2022

“This should be our heartbeat…when we feel the pain and the darkness in our lives, that we would look at that eternal restoration of all things and long for it—we would long for this light, the glory of the Lord, to shine on us.” — Natalie Abbott
This month’s memory verse: “Arise, shine, for your light has come, and the glory of the LORD rises upon you.” — Isaiah 60:1

Today’s podcast: Curious why we picked Isaiah 60:1 for December? Listen in as Natalie and Vera talk about the layers to this verse, our longing for the glory of the Lord to shine upon us, and how it all applies to our lives today.
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What Is the Glory of God? // Jason Abbott Dec 08, 2022

“The darkness is being dispelled—the light is coming. Sin is being dispelled—righteousness is coming. Death is being dispelled—life is coming.” — Jason Abbott
This month’s memory verse: “Arise, shine, for your light has come, and the glory of the LORD rises upon you.” — Isaiah 60:1
Today’s podcast: What does “glory” mean? Chances are you’ve heard that word a lot already this Christmas season, but how should we understand and explain what it means for the glory of the Lord to rise upon his people? We’re so excited to have a special guest on the podcast today as we dig into Isaiah 60:1: Natalie’s husband, Jason Abbott! We know you’ll be encouraged as you learn more about how to understand Old Testament prophecy, hear a helpful conversation about what the glory of the Lord is, and walk away with practical ways we can shine forth the glory of God as we await his second coming.
Our December Dwell guest: Dr. Jason Abbott is married to Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell. They have a big family of seven and spend a lot of time running around Jefferson City, Missouri, together. Jason has been in pastoral ministry for the past 20 years in the Evangelical Free Church of America. He’s currently the Senior Pastor at Central Church of Jefferson City, Missouri.
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Light for the Helpless and Hopeless // Natalie Abbott Dec 01, 2022

“I really hope that as you memorize and mediate on this verse this month, it would really guide you in the process of reflection on who Jesus is, and the beauty of who he is, and what he has done for us, and that it would compel you to share that good news with others throughout the month.” — Natalie Abbott

This month’s memory verse: “Arise, shine, for your light has come, and the glory of the LORD rises upon you.” — Isaiah 60:1
Today’s podcast: Happy December! Join Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, as she digs into the book of Isaiah today, exploring our verse for the month in its context to help us understand it at an even deeper level. See anew the hope that Israel had as they awaited a Savior, the hope that we have today, and the sure hope that is still yet to come when the Lord comes again and we will be with him. May you arise and shine the light of Jesus today, and invite people into his light all month long!
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What's the Most Wonderful Thing God Has Done in Your Life? // Vera Schmitz Nov 24, 2022

“My challenge to you is to find somebody…who is further along in the faith than you and I want you to ask them this question: 'What is the most wonderful thing God has done in your life?’ and just treasure their answer.” — Vera Schmitz

This month’s memory verse: “Let them give thanks to the LORD for his unfailing love and his wonderful deeds for mankind.” — Psalm 107:8
Today’s podcast: In our final episode for Psalm 107:8, Vera Schmitz, co-founder of Dwell Differently, brings us a super practical way to live out our verse: remembering and giving thanks to God. Hear how this practice has helped Vera in seasons of anxiety, and join us in committing to ask someone this week: “What is the most wonderful thing God has done in your life?” We pray it will give an opportunity to together thank God for who he is and what he’s done!
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Let the Redeemed of the Lord Tell Their Story // Vera & Natalie Nov 17, 2022

“This is why this verse says let them give thanks—because when we share in the triumphs of God with others, our faith grows.” — Vera Schmitz
This month’s memory verse: “Let them give thanks to the LORD for his unfailing love and his wonderful deeds for mankind.” — Psalm 107:8
Today’s podcast: How have you experienced the goodness of God? Psalm 107:2, just a few verses before our memory verse this month, says, “Let the redeemed of the LORD tell their story,” and that is exactly what we are doing here today! Join Natalie and Vera as they share about God’s unfailing love and wonderful deeds in their lives, pointing not just to the good gifts and acts of deliverance, but to the Giver himself. May these stories of God’s kindness spark reflection and thankfulness in your own heart today as you dwell on who he is and what he’s done, and share those stories with those around you.
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Cultivating Thankfulness Together // Rachel Gilson Nov 10, 2022

“There’s something about the practice of [thankfulness] in community that completes it. And that’s God’s design, that’s not a crutch. It’s not more holy if I’m just praying to Jesus alone in my thankfulness—it is in fact the bigger vision of what God’s redemption is that he creates a people that is marked by thankfulness.” — Rachel Gilson

This month’s memory verse: “Let them give thanks to the LORD for his unfailing love and his wonderful deeds for mankind.” — Psalm 107:8
Today’s podcast: Have you ever heard someone thank an item instead of the person who gave it to them? What is behind that impulse to be thankful, and where should it really be directed? If you’re looking for both a deep dive into the meaning of Psalm 107 as well as some practical questions and tools to help you live out it’s call to thank the Lord, you’re in the right place! Rachel Gilson and Natalie Abbott dig into the details to not only help us see what Scripture is saying, but to lead us in learning how to live lives of thankfulness to God together as his people.
Our November Dwell guest: Rachel Gilson is a writer, speaker, and campus minister with Cru. She is the author of Born Again This Way. We are so glad to have her with us this month!
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The Unfailing Love of the Lord // Natalie Abbott Nov 03, 2022

“[Psalm 107] is just such a beautiful picture of the gospel, isn’t it? That Jesus came not to save those who were good and righteous and the best, but he came to seek and save the lost. He came for those of us who were his enemies, who were thumbing our nose at him. And that is who our God is, and his love is unfailing, and his deeds are wonderful. Even to people like me who, in so many ways, am undeserving of the kindness of the Lord.” — Natalie Abbott

This month’s memory verse: “Let them give thanks to the LORD for his unfailing love and his wonderful deeds for mankind.” — Psalm 107:8
Today’s podcast: When’s the last time you took a minute to stop and think about the things the Lord has done for you? And when’s the last time you stopped to give him thanks? If you are looking for ways to grow in gratitude this month, we are right there with you! We are excited to dive into a new verse together this month that calls us to remember and rehearse what the Lord has done: Psalm 107:8. Join Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, as she walks us through what the context of this verse is and how we can rightly understand and apply it to our lives today. You won’t want to miss it!
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His Word Does Not Return Void // Vera Schmitz Oct 27, 2022

“Don’t be afraid to share your heart, to share God’s truth, and to share his promise, because it’s true that we can live full lives following Jesus—it is the only way to be full in a real and lasting way.” — Vera Schmitz

This month’s memory verse: “The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.” — John 10:10
Today’s podcast: You won’t want to miss today’s episode where Dwell Differently co-founder Vera Schmitz shares how this month’s verse, John 10:10, was pivotal in her own spiritual journey as well as in her husband’s. She fills us in on why she put her now-husband in the “friend zone” for a couple of years, how she’s seen the way that the Word of God never returns void but always accomplishes what he has planned, and encourages all of us to share the truth and hope of God’s Word with those around us.
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A Warning and an Offer // Vera & Natalie Oct 20, 2022

“This is the promise that we have in Jesus: not to be taken from but to be given. Even when we don’t deserve the kinds of gifts, the fullness that he gives us, he does it—willingly, fully, beautifully for us.” — Natalie Abbott
This month’s memory verse: “The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.” — John 10:10
Today’s podcast: If somebody were going to look in on your life today and make a list of how you spent your time, what would that tell them about you? Where are you looking for peace and rest today? Listen in as Vera and Natalie, co-founders of Dwell Differently, talk about John 10:10, encouraging us to experience fullness of life and abundance in Jesus by choosing to follow him and listen to his voice.
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The Good News about Failure // Jen Oshman Oct 13, 2022

“I know what it is to grow up with my identity rooted in something that is temporary, and something that actually does come to steal, kill, and destroy rather than he who gives abundant life. And so it is with some urgency and compassion and drive that I want others to know that as well.” — Jen Oshman
This month’s memory verse: “The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.” — John 10:10
Today’s podcast: Have you ever thought you understood what a Bible verse was saying only to be surprised after taking some time to study it that what you initially thought wasn’t actually the main point? You’re not alone! Don’t miss this conversation between Natalie Abbott and Jen Oshman where they confess their initial misunderstanding of what this verse means, how the Old Testament helps us to understand what Jesus is saying in John 10:10, how to recognize a thief when they come along, and how to encourage ourselves or someone else who is caught up in a lie. Savor the good news today that instead of coming to exploit others like the religious leaders of Jesus’s day were doing, we have a Savior who came for the exact opposite purpose: to lay his own life down so that his people could have abundant life.
Our October Dwell guest: Jen Oshman is an author, speaker, podcaster, missionary, pastor’s wife, and mom to four daughters. She is passionate about helping herself and the women around her understand and remember that we have a Creator and Savior who designed us to live abundantly with him, and that we were made for so much more than the world has to offer us.
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- Enough about Me by Jen Oshman
- Cultural Counterfeits by Jen Oshman
- Jen’s weekly podcast: All Things
- Jen’s website
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Who Is the Thief? // Natalie Abbott Oct 06, 2022

“Are we going to entrust ourselves and believe in those things that are taking from us, or are we going to entrust ourselves and believe in Jesus, the Good Shepherd, who has laid down his life for us, and promises us abundant life?” —Natalie Abbott

This month’s memory verse: “The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.” — John 10:10
Today’s podcast: Spoiler alert: in today’s episode, Natalie Abbott shares how she misunderstood this verse for a long time, and she’s wondering if you might be in the same boat! Listen in as Natalie walks us through the context of this month’s verse, John 10:10, and helps us see how it fits into the big picture of the Bible, what it tells us about who God is, and what it tells us about who we are. We pray this will encourage you as you follow Jesus today and walk in the abundant life he offers!
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A Movement to Memorize the Bible // April Harper Sep 29, 2022

“You only have one life, and while you can have a few careers in it, if my time was running out, what do I really want to be focusing my life on? And so that’s really what I’m here to talk about today.” — April Harper
This month’s memory verse: “May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit.” — Romans 15:13

Today’s podcast: Have you ever wrestled with discerning your calling or choosing a career? You’re not alone! We know you’ll be encouraged by this episode today with Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell Differently, and April Harper, Dwell Differently’s CEO. Listen in as April shares her story of how God changed her course and brought her to be part of the Dwell team, how she has learned to make decisions differently as a result of growing in listening to the Holy Spirit, and her heart and passion for the work she is doing to help people know and love God’s Word. We are so grateful for her leadership and passion here at Dwell, and are so glad to officially introduce you all to her today!
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- Learn more about the ministry of Scarlet Hope, and check out the Dwell Differently podcast episodes with their founder, Rachelle Star.
- Take a look at Get Out of Your Head by Jennie Allen.

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Where Do You Find Hope? // Vera Schmitz Sep 22, 2022

“The reality is, we’re all empty vessels that are needing to be filled. So practically speaking, how then do we fill our buckets?” — Vera Schmitz
This month’s memory verse: “May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit.” — Romans 15:13

Today’s podcast: Welcome to our monthly wrap-up episode with Dwell Differently co-founder Vera Schmitz! Where do you find yourself going most often to fill up your “soul bucket”? And what happens when you look to people and things that are not God to do that for you? We know you’ll be encouraged by Vera’s reflections on what she’s been learning as she’s memorized and meditated on Romans 15:13 this month!

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An Invitation to Experience Hope // Vera & Natalie Sep 15, 2022

"The promise is that we would overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit, and I think that’s the lynchpin there. It’s not my own scraped-up hope, it is hope only by the power of the Holy Spirit.” — Vera Schmitz

This month’s memory verse: “May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit.” — Romans 15:13
Today’s podcast: Is it hard for you to believe that you can experience overflowing hope daily? If so, you’re in the right place! Join Natalie and Vera, co-founders of Dwell Differently, as they share what they’ve been learning as they've memorized and meditated on Romans 15:13 this month. Consider this your invitation to experience true hope as you trade in your own independent efforts to muster up some kind of hope for a real dependence on the God of hope, who offers us abundant joy and peace and hope as we trust in him by the power of the Holy Spirit.

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Overflowing Hope // Courtney Doctor Sep 08, 2022

“These things that he’s giving—the hope and the joy and the peace—are not separate from him, they are part of him. He’s the God of hope, so he’s actually giving us himself.” — Courtney Doctor

This month’s memory verse: “May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit.” — Romans 15:13

Today’s podcast: In today’s episode, Natalie Abbott and Courtney Doctor are taking a deep dive into this month’s verse, Romans 15:13. So what is “hope”? And what are we supposed to hope in? Is overflowing with hope really possible? Don’t miss this uplifting conversation where you’ll be encouraged to remember who God is, be rooted in why hope and joy and peace that defy our circumstances is a reality for those who trust in Christ, and be stirred to think about how this overflowing hope isn’t just for us, but for those around us as well.

Our September Dwell guest: Courtney Doctor is an author, Bible teacher, frequent conference and retreat speaker, and periodic blogger. She received an MDiv from Covenant Theological Seminary in 2013 and is the author of several Bible studies (linked below). She currently serves as the Coordinator of Women's Initiatives for The Gospel Coalition. Her greatest desire in all of this is to be able to faithfully study, apply, and teach the Word of God and help others to do the same.

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- Courtney Doctor's website
- From Garden to Glory: A Bible Study on the Bible’s Story by Courtney Doctor
- Steadfast: A Devotional Bible Study on the Book of James by Courtney Doctor
- In View of God's Mercies: The Gift of the Gospel in Romans by Courtney Doctor
- Dwell Differently’s monthly membership that shows up in your mailbox each month to help you memorize and meditate on God’s Word

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What Is Hope? // Natalie Abbott Sep 01, 2022

“Biblical hope is not a wishing and a longing—biblical hope is a certain hope because it is rooted and grounded in the faithful God of hope.” — Natalie Abbott
This month’s memory verse: “May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit.” — Romans 15:13

Today’s podcast: Have you ever wondered what “hope” really means? Is it just a wish, or is biblical hope something more? In today’s teaching episode, Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell, fills us in on the context of Romans 15:13, how we can understand this verse rightly, and why it is so important and encouraging for our everyday lives. But this hope isn’t just for us—it’s an overflowing hope for those around us as well, that they too might meet Jesus, the source and sustainer of our hope. This prayer from Romans is a message we need to hear!

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Set Free from Fear, Control, and Busyness // Vera Schmitz Aug 25, 2022

"It says, 'The LORD will fight for you; you need only to be still.' It doesn't say, 'You need only to make a plan, you need only to make a list, you need only to buy this thing.' No. 'The LORD will fight for you; you need only to be still.'" — Vera Schmitz
This month’s memory verse: "Then you will know the truth and the truth will set you free." —John 8:32

Today’s podcast: This month, Dwell Differently co-founder Vera Schmitz shares how memorizing specific truths in God's Word have helped to set her free from struggles in her own life. She relates how the truths about God's transcendent peace in Philippians 4:6-7 have helped her in anxious moments. She shares how Exodus 14:14 teaches here to rely on God to fight for her. And she also relates how the words of rest in Psalm 116:7 come to her mind in seasons of busyness. We trust that Vera's stories of freedom will be an encouragement to you as you consider how God's words have bolstered you up when you've needed them. And be sure to join us next week as we memorize on more verse to help us do just that.

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A Hard but Beautiful Message // Vera & Natalie Aug 18, 2022

“I love this truth, even though it’s hard. It’s a promise for the [initial] one time choice to follow Jesus, and for my day in and day out. He’s going to continue to set me free from my sin.” — Vera Schmitz

This month’s memory verse: “Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” — John 8:32

Today’s podcast: So many people have heard the words of this verse—quoted in movies, literature, and everyday life—but what many may not know is that these words were spoken by Jesus about himself. Join Natalie and Vera, co-founders of Dwell Differently, as they talk about what this verse means, why this hard truth is actually good news, and how to fight against the lies that we all face with the truth of God’s Word alongside his people.

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Walk in the Truth // Blair Linne Aug 11, 2022

“Then you have Jesus who is Truth materialized. He is sincerity and genuineness in the flesh. He shows up on the scene and says, ‘I’m going to give you the truth in my Word, but also, I am the Truth. I am the Word. You come to me, and I will set you free…I’m going to help you walk further in reality.’” — Blair Linne

This month’s memory verse: “Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” — John 8:32

Today’s podcast: Join Blair Linne and Natalie Abbott as they talk about this month’s verse: John 8:32. We know you’ll be encouraged by Blair’s story of being set free by Jesus! Listen in to learn more about the context of this verse, consider the contrast between our old nature and and our new nature of freedom as those who are united with Christ, and explore what it looks like to continue walking in freedom as we continue to walk in Truth.

Our August Dwell guest: Blair Linne is a spoken word artist, author, and speaker. She is passionate about using the gifts God has given her to present the message and the Person that transformed her life. Blair and her husband, Shai, have three kids and live in Philadelphia.

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- Finding My Father by Blair Linne
- Finding My Father: A Poem by Blair Linne
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The Truth That Sets You Free // Natalie Abbott Aug 04, 2022

“If Jesus tells you that you’re a sinner, will you still believe in him? Will you be honest with your sin and your failings? Will you confess that you could never measure up? Will you believe in the Son of God who came not to condemn the world but instead to save it? Or are you going to hold on to your own righteousness and keep justifying yourself?” — Natalie Abbott

This month’s memory verse: “Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” — John 8:32

Today’s podcast: What is “the truth” Jesus is talking about in this verse? And what do we need to be set free from? Join Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell, as she digs into the context of the Gospel of John, looks at how this verse connects with last month’s verse (John 6:29), and speaks truth about the Savior who came not to condemn but to set us free.

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3 Takeaways from John 6:29 // Vera Schmitz Jul 28, 2022

“Even if Jesus gave me all his miracles and he met every last need, the belief in him is the treasure. He is the treasure. He is the thing that my heart really truly longs for.” — Vera Schmitz
This month’s memory verse: “Jesus answered, ‘The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.’” — John 6:29

Today’s podcast: You won’t want to miss today’s episode with Dwell Differently co-founder Vera Schmitz as she reflects on three takeaways from John 6:29! We hope you’ve been encouraged as you’ve memorized along with us this month, and pray that your belief in Jesus is continuing to grow. Don’t forget to come back next week for our new August verse!

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It’s Not about a Checklist // Vera & Natalie Jul 21, 2022

“We don’t have to keep relying on our works or measuring ourselves by our failures. We can measure ourselves and see ourselves as Christ sees us, which is people that he loves, his beloved bride.” — Natalie Abbott

This month’s memory verse: “Jesus answered, ‘The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.’” — John 6:29

Today’s podcast: Have you ever wrestled with feeling like you need to be “good” to earn God’s favor? Even as Christians who know we are saved not by our works but by Jesus, we can still fall back into thinking our good works are necessary to save us. Join Natalie and Vera today as they talk about the design for this month’s verse, get real as they share their own experiences of realizing they were trying to work to earn God’s favor with their efforts instead of coming to Jesus, and remind us of the beauty of our God who is always ready to bring us back to him as he helps us to believe in the One he has sent.

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- To go deeper, check out “Are You Asking the Wrong Question?” by Natalie Abbott on the Dwell Differently blog.
- Want some help spending time in the Word with your kids this summer? Check out our fruit of the Spirit summer kit for kids!
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What Is the Work of God? // Amanda Bible Williams Jul 14, 2022

“It’s not just the head knowledge, in this case, that the work of God is to believe in the one he has sent, to believe in Jesus—but to actually know it to the point that that’s how I’m operating. That that’s the belief that I’m not just knowing with my head but that I’m living out of.” — Amanda Bible Williams

This month’s memory verse: “Jesus answered, ‘The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.’” — John 6:29

Today’s podcast: Have you ever wondered how good works and faith relate to each other? We often are looking for boxes to check and ways to justify ourselves, but following Jesus is a true following—step by step. Join Natalie Abbott and Amanda Bible Williams today as they dig into what this verse means, discuss barriers to belief, and encourage us to truly do the work of God: to believe in the one he has sent, Jesus.

Our July Dwell guest: Amanda Bible Williams is co-founder and chief content officer of She Reads Truth. A lover of words and the Word, Amanda spends her days reading and leading, writing and editing, and explaining that her maiden name really is Bible. She lives with her husband and their four children in a chaotic farmhouse just south of Nashville, Tennessee.
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That You May Believe // Natalie Abbott Jul 07, 2022

"If Jesus is our spiritual food, are we looking to Jesus to give us the food that perishes, or are we looking to Jesus for eternal, spiritual satisfaction? Are we looking for him to meet only our earthly needs and earthly comforts, or do we have eyes to see, spiritual eyes to understand our spiritual needs and to find them met in Jesus?” — Natalie Abbott

This month’s memory verse: “Jesus answered, ‘The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.’” — John 6:29

Today’s podcast: What is the message of the Gospel of John? Are we like the crowds following Jesus who were looking to him for the wrong reasons? Join Natalie Abbott today as she walks through the context of our verse for this month, John 6:29. Find out why the original hearers had a hard time wrapping their minds around this concept, how we can evaluate our own thinking about the work of God, and be encouraged as we clearly look at the point that John is making and the question we all need to answer.

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4 Ways God Keeps Us from Drifting // Lindsay Tully Jun 30, 2022

“It’s so encouraging to me that God has not left us on our own to follow after him—we don’t just hear a warning like this to not drift away without him also being the one to enable us.” — Lindsay Tully
This month’s memory verse: “We must pay the most careful attention, therefore, to what we have heard, so that we do not drift away.” — Hebrews 2:1

Today’s podcast: If we're being honest, we all know we have a tendency to drift spiritually. But how do we pay the most careful attention to what we have heard about Jesus? Join us today as Natalie Abbot, Co-founder of Dwell, and Lindsay Tully, Dwell Editor and Writer, sit down to talk about 4 of the instruments God has given us to help us stay the course and pay the most careful attention to the truth of the gospel, so that we do not drift away.
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Links from today's show:
- If you missed it, be sure to check out “Lessons from Flight School” on the Dwell Differently blog!
- Want some help spending time in the Word with your kids this summer? Check out our fruit of the Spirit summer kit for kids!

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Fighting the Current with Christ // Vera Schmitz Jun 23, 2022

“What am I paying the most careful attention to right now? And how can I re-anchor myself to the truth with an easy habit or practice or rhythm?” — Vera Schmitz

This month’s memory verse: “We must pay the most careful attention, therefore, to what we have heard, so that we do not drift away.” — Hebrews 2:1

Today’s podcast: If you had an inventory of your thoughts, what (or who) are you paying the most careful attention to? In today’s episode, Vera Schmitz, co-founder of Dwell Differently, takes a look at 4 common things we are tempted to pay the most careful attention to, and encourages us to instead re-anchor ourselves to the truth of Jesus.

Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about Dwell’s monthly kit with temporary tattoos, a display card, a key tag, and more to help you know and dwell on God’s Word.
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Link from today's show:
- Get Out of Your Head by Jennie Allen
- Want some help spending time in the Word with your kids this summer? Check out our fruit of the Spirit summer kit for kids!

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Help...I'm Drifting // Vera & Natalie Jun 16, 2022

“The reason this verse is in Scripture at all is because we have this tendency to drift.” — Natalie Abbott

This month’s memory verse: “We must pay the most careful attention, therefore, to what we have heard, so that we do not drift away.” — Hebrews 2:1

Today’s podcast: Let’s be honest—it’s hard to talk about drifting. Today’s episode is a very real conversation between Natalie and Vera about how they see drifting happen in their own lives, spiritual habits they’d like to incorporate to help them stay on course, and the danger of looking good on the outside but dying on the inside. Are you in a season of drifting? Do you want some encouragement to keep digging into the Word? We’ve got you covered, and we are paddling toward God alongside you.

Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about Dwell’s monthly kit with temporary tattoos, a display card, a key tag, and more to help you know and dwell on God’s Word.
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Links from today's show:
- Want some help spending time in the Word with your kids this summer? Check out our fruit of the Spirit summer kit for kids!
- We are loving The Bible Recap to help us daily dig into the Bible and pay the most careful attention to Jesus.
- Did you know we have a Facebook group for Dwell Members? Join us as we seek to live out what we are learning each month!

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The Danger of Drifting // Emma Mae McDaniel Jun 09, 2022

“That’s the danger of drifting—while running away is an intentional, purposeful act, drifting away happens without our awareness.” — Emma Mae McDaniel

This month’s memory verse: “We must pay the most careful attention, therefore, to what we have heard, so that we do not drift away.” — Hebrews 2:1

Today’s podcast: Do you find yourself easily distracted? Is it challenging to prioritize spending time with the Lord in busy seasons? Have you ever realized that you've unintentionally started focusing on things that weren’t worth paying “the most careful attention” to, and drifted away from the Lord? What should you do if you have a friend who is drifting? Listen in today as Natalie Abbott and Emma Mae McDaniel chat about all this and more. We know this conversation will be an encouragement to you today as we take a look at how to pay the most careful attention to Jesus.

Our April Dwell guest: Emma Mae McDaniel is a wife, writer, podcaster, YouTuber, speaker, clothing brand starter, and recent grad from Liberty University. Her life is all about knowing God and making him known, and we are so glad to have her join us on the podcast this month!
Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about Dwell’s monthly kit with temporary tattoos, a display card, a key tag, and more to help you know and dwell on God’s Word.
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Links from today's show:
- Listen to Why Memorize Scripture? with Emma Mae & Natalie Abbott on the “Have You Heard?” Podcast
- Pre-order You Are: Realizing Who You Are Because of Who God Is by Emma Mae McDaniel
- Check out All-Caps YOU: A 30-Day Adventure toward Finding Joy in Who God Made You to Be by Emma Mae McDaniel (Natalie is currently reading this with her teenage daughters!)
- Visit Emma Mae McDaniel’s website

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Pay the Most Careful Attention // Natalie Abbott Jun 02, 2022

“This is a daily practice—of not drifting, of coming back. And we have a God who welcomes us with open arms.” — Natalie Abbott

This month’s memory verse: “We must pay the most careful attention, therefore, to what we have heard, so that we do not drift away.” — Hebrews 2:1

Today’s podcast: Don’t miss today’s episode with Natalie Abbott, co-founder of Dwell, as she digs into our verse for this month: Hebrews 2:1! She walks us through some important questions: How does this fit into the big picture of redemption in the Bible? What does it say about God? And what does it say about us and our everyday lives? We hope that you’re memorizing this verse along with us, and pray that this deeper dive helps you as you meditate on God’s Word this month!

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Link from today's show:
Check out the Dwell Differently website and the free resources we have waiting for you there!

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Do You Want a Mentor? // Melissa Kruger May 26, 2022

“This is what the church should look like, this sharing: ‘What I have, I’m going to offer to you, and what you have, you can offer to me.’ And that’s a beautiful thing, without either demanding it of the other.” — Melissa Kruger

This month’s memory verse: “Because we loved you so much, we were delighted to share with you not only the gospel of God but our lives as well.” — 1 Thessalonians 2:8b

Today’s podcast: Have you been listening to our series this month and found yourself thinking, “I want that! I’ve never been mentored. How do I even start?” Well you’re in the right place! We know today’s conversation with Melissa Kruger and Natalie Abbott will give you some super practical next steps to dig into what it looks like to share our lives with one another.

Our May Dwell guest: Melissa Kruger is a wife, mom, and the author of multiple books, includingThe Envy of Eve,Walking with God in the Season of Motherhood, andGrowing Together: Taking Mentoring Beyond Small Talk and Prayer Requests. She enjoys teaching women the Bible and serves as the director of women's initiatives for The Gospel Coalition.
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Links from today's show:
Melissa’s website
Growing Together: Taking Mentoring beyond Small Talk and Prayer Requestsby Melissa Kruger
How Christianity Transformed the World by Sharon James

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How Do We Do This "Gospel Life" Thing? // Melissa Kruger May 19, 2022

"If there is one verse that I would want to characterize my ministry, it would be this one.” — Melissa Kruger

This month’s memory verse: “Because we loved you so much, we were delighted to share with you not only the gospel of God but our lives as well.” — 1 Thessalonians 2:8b

Today’s podcast: What does it really look like to share not only the gospel but also our lives with one another? In today’s episode, Melissa Kruger and Natalie Abbott talk about the power of life-on-life ministry, why mentoring is not like marriage, and the joy of seeing how the gospel is impacting someone’s life over time. You won’t want to miss this encouragement and wisdom from women who have faithfully been mentoring others for years!

Our May Dwell guest: Melissa Kruger is a wife, mom, and the author of multiple books, including The Envy of Eve, Walking with God in the Season of Motherhood, and Growing Together: Taking Mentoring Beyond Small Talk and Prayer Requests. She enjoys teaching women the Bible and serves as the director of women's initiatives for The Gospel Coalition.
Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about Dwell’s monthly kit with temporary tattoos, a display card, a key tag, and more to help you know and dwell on God’s Word.
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Links from today's show:
Melissa’s website
Growing Together: Taking Mentoring beyond Small Talk and Prayer Requestsby Melissa Kruger

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Living Out Our Faith Together // Melissa Kruger May 12, 2022

“I don’t want women to be in the Word because they think there’s some angel in heaven with a star chart who’s keeping track of their progress. I want them to be in the Word because there is a joy of knowing Christ that you just simply can’t explain other than to say he has such depths to be uncovered that we will spend all eternity knowing him more.” — Melissa Kruger

This month’s memory verse: “Because we loved you so much, we were delighted to share with you not only the gospel of God but our lives as well.” — 1 Thessalonians 2:8b

Today’s podcast: What does it look like to live out the gospel in a way that is relational and that impacts people in a powerful way? Join Natalie Abbott and Melissa Kruger as they talk about what the word “gospel” means, the importance of both telling and showcasing the truth of the gospel, and why Melissa is so passionate about the Word of God. Don’t forget to subscribe and come back to hear their conversation about spiritual mentoring next week!

Our May Dwell guest: Melissa Kruger is a wife, mom, and the author of multiple books, includingThe Envy of Eve,Walking with God in the Season of Motherhood, andGrowing Together: Taking Mentoring Beyond Small Talk and Prayer Requests. She enjoys teaching women the Bible and serves as the director of women's initiatives for The Gospel Coalition.
Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about Dwell’s monthly kit with temporary tattoos, a display card, a key tag, and more to help you know and dwell on God’s Word.
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Links from today's show:
Melissa’s website
Growing Together: Taking Mentoring beyond Small Talk and Prayer Requests

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Who Are You Sharing Your Life With? // Vera & Natalie May 05, 2022

“This is what God has for us. We were created to be in community with one another. And as hard as it can be, that’s where the joy is—when we are not only sharing the gospel at an arm’s length, but when the gospel is penetrating into those relationships and making them beautiful and vibrant." — Natalie Abbott
This month’s memory verse: “Because we loved you so much, we were delighted to share with you not only the gospel of God but our lives as well.” — 1 Thessalonians 2:8b

Today’s podcast: We know that the Bible calls us to live in community, but what does that look like? What is the impact of having people in your life who know you and love you, and who speak the truth of the gospel to you? What if you’re in a busy season of life and it just doesn’t seem possible? Join Vera and Natalie today as they share practical ways they are sharing their lives with others (spoiler alert: it’s easer than you may think!) and dive into our verse for this month!

Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about Dwell’s monthly kit with temporary tattoos, a display card, a key tag, and more to help you know and dwell on God’s Word.
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Links from today's show:
Lessons from an Ordinary Mom

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God Redeems, No Matter What // Rachelle Starr Apr 28, 2022

Important Note: If you have little listeners with you today, you may want to put in headphones or listen later as this episode is about sharing the gospel with women in the adult entertainment industry.
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“God redeems, no matter what. No matter how long you’ve been away from him, no matter how far you’ve been away from him, or how far you’ve been kept from him.” — Rachelle Starr

This month’s memory verse: “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ.” — Ephesians 2:13

Today’s podcast: What do we do when our sin feels too big for Jesus to forgive? What should we do if we feel far away from God? In this encouraging episode, Natalie and Rachelle Starr dig into what this month’s verse says about the radical love of God, share super practical ideas for being near God when we feel far away, and talk about a redemption story you won’t want to miss!

Our April Dwell guest: Meet Rachelle Starr, founder and president of Scarlet Hope! She says, “Twelve years ago God called me to serve women in the adult entertainment industry with the gospel message that he loves them and cares for them. Through the gospel I have seen countless lives changed by the transforming work of Christ, that's why we exist!”
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Links from today's show:
Scarlet Hope’s Website

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Jesus Is the One Who Does the Work // Rachelle Starr Apr 21, 2022

Important Note: If you have little listeners with you today, you may want to put in headphones or listen later as this episode is about sharing the gospel with women in the adult entertainment industry.
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“The more drastic and dark and depraved you recognize you were, the more Christ’s sacrifice on the cross becomes real because you knew how bad you were and how much grace you’ve been given.” — Rachelle Starr

This month’s memory verse: “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ.” — Ephesians 2:13

Today’s podcast: What does it mean that we’ve been brought near by the blood of Christ? When we stop to think about it, we are all rebellious before Christ gets ahold of us, and at the foot of the cross, we are all the same. God is the one who bring us near, no matter how dark we are or how far we’ve tried to get from him. Join Natalie and Rachelle Starr today as they talk about the hope that’s on offer from God himself!

Our April Dwell guest: Meet Rachelle Starr, founder and president of Scarlet Hope! She says, “Twelve years ago God called me to serve women in the adult entertainment industry with the gospel message that he loves them and cares for them. Through the gospel I have seen countless lives changed by the transforming work of Christ, that's why we exist!”
Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about Dwell’s monthly kit with temporary tattoos, a display card, a keychain ring, and more to help you know and dwell on God’s Word.
Get our weekly devotional email: Dive deeper into this month’s verse.
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Links from today's show:
Scarlet Hope’s Website

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God Loves Those Who Are Far Away // Rachelle Starr Apr 14, 2022

Important Note: If you have little listeners with you today, you may want to put in headphones or listen later as this episode is about sharing the gospel with women in the adult entertainment industry.
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“It really just takes one act of obedience to advance God’s kingdom.” — Rachelle Starr

This month’s memory verse: “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ.” — Ephesians 2:13

Today’s podcast: How do you embody what Jesus has done and tangibly share his love with those around you? Need some encouragement to carry out the gospel in your daily life and to live in obedience to what God has called you to? Join Natalie Abbott and Rachelle Starr today as they talk about Scarlet Hope, a ministry that exists to share the hope and love of Jesus with women in the adult entertainment industry. Jesus changes lives!

Our April Dwell guest: Meet Rachelle Starr, founder and president of Scarlet Hope! She says, “Twelve years ago God called me to serve women in the adult entertainment industry with the gospel message that he loves them and cares for them. Through the gospel I have seen countless lives changed by the transforming work of Christ, that's why we exist!”
Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about Dwell’s monthly kit with temporary tattoos, a display card, a keychain ring, and more to help you know and dwell on God’s Word.
Get our weekly devotional email: Dive deeper into this month’s verse.
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Links from today's show:
Scarlet Hope’s Website

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How Do I Talk to My Kids About Easter? // Vera & Natalie Apr 07, 2022

“Jesus invites us to bring our little people to him” — Vera Schmitz

This month’s memory verse: “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ.” — Ephesians 2:13

Today’s podcast: It’s a new month and a new memory verse! Today, Natalie and Vera dive into Ephesians 2:13 and talk about how to share the gospel with our kids. Want some help with questions to get the conversation going? Need some guidance when it comes to explaining why we need the blood of Christ? Don’t miss this encouraging episode, and be sure to grab the free Easter coloring sheet and devo for kids on our website!
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Links from today's show:
Free coloring sheet & devo

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How to Memorize the Bible with Your Kids // Hunter Beless Mar 31, 2022

“As we continue to dwell on the truths of God’s Word, it’s leading us to delight in them and to testify to those realities in the lives of the people that are around us.” — Hunter Beless

This month’s memory verse: “So do not throw away your confidence; it will be richly rewarded.” — Hebrews 10:35

Today’s podcast: Have you even wondered how to memorize the Bible with your kids? What if they aren't interested? Is it really that important? Hunter Beless joins Dwell co-founder Natalie Abbott to give us some great insights into why and how to memorize Scripture together. Listen in to hear how to bring excitement to memorizing the Bible, the benefits of regularly intaking the truth of the Bible, how to invite and incorporate your kids into your time with the Lord, and about Hunter's awesome new book for kids, Read It, See It, Say It, See It.

Our March Dwell guest: Meet Hunter Beless! Hunter loves Jesus and is passionate about helping others know and treasure the Word of God. She is a wife, mom, podcast host, author, and speaker. We absolutely loved having her on the show this month, and can't wait for you to hear her heart for memorizing the Bible and living for Jesus!
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Links from today's show:
Read It, See It, Say It, Sing It by Hunter Beless
The Journeywomen Podcast
Hunter Beless on Instagram
Hunter Beless's website

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Know Who God Is, and You'll Know Who You Are // Sadie Robertson Huff Mar 24, 2022

“If you want to be confident, and you want a daily confidence boost, get to know the character of who your God is. Speak it out. Say it over your life. Because when you know who God is, you will know who you are." - Sadie Robertson Huff
This month’s memory verse: “So do not throw away your confidence; it will be richly rewarded.” — Hebrews 10:35

Today’s podcast: Vera Schmitz, co-founder of Dwell Differently, and Sadie Robertson Huff, author and speaker, talk about how to break free from the comparison trap, the importance of speaking truth over our feelings, what might tempt us to throw away our confidence, how to guard our hearts on social media, and a final "pump up" to hold onto our confidence.

Our March Dwell guest: Meet Sadie Robertson Huff! Sadie is a wife, mom, author, and speaker—and those are only a few of her titles! This girl is busy and she's on a mission. Her love for Jesus and the Word are infectious, and we know that you're going to absolutely love hearing from her this month!
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Links from today's show:
Live Original
Who Are You Following?
Sadie on Insta @legitsadierob
WHOA That's Good Podcast
Sadie on YouTube
Priscilla Shirer - The Attributes of God

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Where Is Your Confidence? // Sadie Robertson Huff Mar 17, 2022

“I was thinking I'd find something in the Word where God says, ‘This is who you are, and you're amazing, and you're so awesome, and why would you ever feel insecure.’ That's not what I found . . ." - Sadie Robertson Huff
This month’s memory verse: “So do not throw away your confidence; it will be richly rewarded.” — Hebrews 10:35

Today’s podcast: Vera Schmitz, co-founder of Dwell Differently, and Sadie Robertson Huff, author and speaker, are diving into why Sadie includes Hebrews 10:35 in every book she writes, how we can find true confidence, ways to anchor ourselves in God’s Word, and hope for those who desire to know the Bible better.

Our March Dwell guest: Meet Sadie Robertson Huff! Sadie is a wife, mom, author, and speaker—and those are only a few of her titles! This girl is busy and she's on a mission. Her love for Jesus and the Word are infectious, and we know that you're going to absolutely love hearing from her this month!
Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about Dwell’s monthly kit with temporary tattoos, a display card, a keychain ring, and more to help you know and dwell on God’s Word.
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Links from today's show:
Live Original
Who Are You Following?
Sadie on Insta @legitsadierob
WHOA That's Good Podcast
Sadie on YouTube

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Be an Influencer Worth Following // Sadie Robertson Huff Mar 10, 2022

“When you’re following someone who is lost, do you understand that you’re also going to be lost? It’s important that individually, we are all following Jesus—the Way, the Truth, the Life—leading us to the Father so that we know where we are leading other people as well.” — Sadie Robertson Huff
This month’s memory verse: “So do not throw away your confidence; it will be richly rewarded.” — Hebrews 10:35

Today’s podcast: Vera Schmitz, co-founder of Dwell Differently, and Sadie Robertson Huff, author and speaker, are talking today about every believer’s call to be an influencer—not just those with a notable social media following. Listen in for the best advice Sadie has ever received, a more biblical definition of “influencer,” how to be a light on social media, and why dwelling on truth about who Jesus is (and who we are because of him) is foundational to our confidence.

Our March Dwell guest: Meet Sadie Robertson Huff! Sadie is a wife, mom, author, and speaker—and those are only a few of her titles! This girl is busy and she's on a mission. Her love for Jesus and the Word are infectious, and we know that you're going to absolutely love hearing from her this month!
Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about Dwell’s monthly kit with temporary tattoos, a display card, a keychain ring, and more to help you know and dwell on God’s Word.
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Links from today's show:
Live Original
Who Are You Following?
Sadie on Insta @legitsadierob
WHOA That's Good Podcast
Sadie on YouTube

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It's Not About Us // Vera & Natalie Mar 03, 2022

“You can’t rely on your feelings. You have to rely on what’s actually true—who God actually is and what he actually says about you.” — Vera

This month’s memory verse: “So do not throw away your confidence; it will be richly rewarded.” — Hebrews 10:35

Today’s podcast: Join Natalie and Vera—sisters and co-founders of Dwell—as they take a look at the confidence our verse of the month is talking about, some times in their own lives when they’ve come face-to-face with a lack of confidence (and how Dwell was born in the midst of one of those seasons!), and some super helpful ways we can practice putting our confidence in Jesus. You won’t want to miss it!

Our March Dwell guest: Sadie Robertson Huff will be joining Vera on the podcast starting next week! Be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss their conversations about Hebrews 10:35 and what it looks like to live out the truth of Scripture in our everyday lives.

Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about Dwell’s monthly kit with temporary tattoos, a display card, a keychain ring, and more to help you know and dwell on God’s Word.
Get our weekly devotional email: Dive deeper into this month’s verse.
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Links from today's show:
Who I Am In Christ

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How Do We Live In Love? // Debra Fileta Feb 24, 2022

“God’s love is so different from the relationships we have in this world, where there’s always the expectation of giving and receiving. God is love. He is the epitome of love. There’s nothing I have to do to engage in the process, or give back. I just receive it. It’s almost hard for the brain to compute, but there’s something really special about that.” — Debra Fileta
This month’s memory verse: “And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them.” — 1 John 4:16
Today’s podcast: Natalie and Debra are digging into our verse for this month: 1 John 4:16. Listen in for a conversation about what it means that God is love, how Jesus comes to give us a new identity in him, and the absolute confidence we can have in the love of God for us.
Our February Dwell guest: Meet Debra Fileta, a Licensed Professional Counselor and the author of 5 books on the topics of dating, marriage, love, and healthy relationships (see links below). Her heart for Jesus informs her work, her writing, and her conversation with us about what love is.
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Dwell #124: The Hungry Monster - Debra Fileta Feb 17, 2022

Meet our February Dwell Guest: Debra Fileta! Debra is a Licensed Professional Counselor and the author of 5 books on the topics of dating, marriage, love, and healthy relationships (see link below). Her heart for Jesus informs her work, her writing, and her conversation with us this month about what love is.
Here's what we're talking about today!
-Ways to know God's love
-Defining and recognizing transference
-Examples from Debra's work as a counselor
-Healing from our past
-Having a right understanding of who God is
-The impact of "The Hungry Monster" of dissatisfaction
Links from today's show:
Meet Debra Fileta
Books by Debra
Debra's podcast : Love + Relationships
A n d // s o // w e // k n o w
a n d // r e l y // o n
t h e // l o v e // G o d // h a s
f o r // u s.
G o d // i s // l o v e.
W h o e v e r // l i v e s // i n // l o v e
l i v e s // i n // G o d,
a n d // G o d // i n // t h e m.
1 j o h n // 4 : 1 6

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Dwell #123: Healthy Love - Debra Fileta Feb 10, 2022

Meet our February Dwell Guest: Debra Fileta! Debra is a Licensed Professional Counselor and the author of 5 books on the topics of dating, marriage, love, and healthy relationships (see link below). Her heart for Jesus informs her work, her writing, and her conversation with us this month about what love is.
Here's what we're talking about today!
-How healthy people make healthy relationships
-"Ah-ha!" moments in counseling and in ministry
-Seeing psychology in Scripture
-Using our ability to love as a gage for our own spiritual health
Links from today's show:
Meet Debra Fileta
Books by Debra
Debra's podcast : Love + Relationships
A n d // s o // w e // k n o w
a n d // r e l y // o n
t h e // l o v e // G o d // h a s
f o r // u s.
G o d // i s // l o v e.
W h o e v e r // l i v e s // i n // l o v e
l i v e s // i n // G o d,
a n d // G o d // i n // t h e m.
1 j o h n // 4 : 1 6

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Dwell #122: God Values Me, and That Ain't Changin' - Vera & Natalie Feb 03, 2022

We're a full week into February, so you've probably had a minute to check out this month's verse - 1 John 4:16! What do you think?! We hope that the truth of living in God's love, and him living in you, is blessing you deeply. Today's conversation could've lasted a long time, but we did our best to squeeze it into just a bite-sized amount of time so that you can dip your toes into the waters of what we're memorizing together for the month of February. Thanks for listening, friends.
On today's show we're talking about:
- Our value in God's eyes
- Relying on God's love
- Reminding our people of their worth
- Tiny doors and matryoshka dolls...you're just going to have to listen to understand!

a n d // s o // w e // k n o w
a n d // r e l y // o n
t h e // l o v e // G o d // h a s // f o r // u s.
G o d // i s // l o v e.
W h o e v e r // l i v e s // i n // l o v e
l i v e s // i n // G o d,
a n d // G o d // i n // t h e m.
1 j o h n // 4 : 1 6

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Dwell #121: The Pink Bathtub - Ellie Holcomb Jan 31, 2022

Meet January's Dwell Guest: Ellie Holcomb! Ellie is a singer, songwriter, wife, mama, and lover of God and his Word. We are big fans of her work and we're pumped to start the year with Ellie on the podcast! After you listen today, take a few minutes to check out Ellie's newest book, Fighting Words (linked below). If you're here, we know that you've got some interest in Scripture memory so we know you'll love this book too!
Here's what we're talking about today!
- When Ellie first understood the gospel (yes, it includes a pink bathtub!)
- What to do if you feel awkward sharing your faith
- Ellie's experience with Young Life and ways that it helped her to share hope with others
Links from today's show:
More about Ellie
Fighting Words Devotional: 100 Days of Speaking Truth into the Darkness
The Jesus Storybook Bible
l i g h t // i n // a // m e s s e n g e r ' s // e y e s
b r i n g s // j o y // t o // t h e // h e a r t,
a n d // g o o d // n e w s // g i v e s
h e a l t h // t o // t h e // b o n e s.
p r o v e r b s // 1 5 : 3 0

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Dwell #120: Light Is Stronger - Ellie Holcomb Jan 24, 2022

Meet January's Dwell Guest: Ellie Holcomb! Ellie is a singer, songwriter, wife, mama, and lover of God and his Word. We are big fans of her work and we're pumped to start the year with Ellie on the podcast! After you listen today, take a few minutes to check out Ellie's newest book, Fighting Words (linked below). If you're here, we know that you've got some interest in Scripture memory, so we know you'll love this book too!
Here's what we're talking about today!
- A peak into why Ellie wrote Fighting Words
- The good news that suffering doesn't get the final word
- A helpful way to show kids (and remind our own hearts) that light is stronger
Links from today's show:
More about Ellie
Fighting Words Devotional: 100 Days of Speaking Truth into the Darkness
l i g h t // i n // a // m e s s e n g e r ' s // e y e s
b r i n g s // j o y // t o // t h e // h e a r t,
a n d // g o o d // n e w s // g i v e s
h e a l t h // t o // t h e // b o n e s.
p r o v e r b s // 1 5 : 3 0

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Dwell #119: Sharing Jesus through Song - Ellie Holcomb Jan 17, 2022

Meet January's Dwell Guest: Ellie Holcomb! Ellie is a singer, songwriter, wife, mama, and lover of God and his Word. We are big fans of her work and we're pumped to start the year with Ellie on the podcast! After you listen today, take a few minutes to check out Ellie's newest book, Fighting Words (linked below). If you're here, we know that you've got some interest in Scripture memory so we know you'll love this book too!
Here's what we're talking about today!
- The unique way that music helps Ellie share the message of Jesus
- Ellie's family and how she came to treasure the Word
- How her experiences as a teacher and with Young Life led her to song writing and Scripture memory
- The “why” behind Ellie’s passion for memorizing Scripture, and how that has changed her life and music writing
Links from today's show:
More about Ellie
Fighting Words Devotional: 100 Days of Speaking Truth into the Darkness
l i g h t // i n // a // m e s s e n g e r ' s // e y e s
b r i n g s // j o y // t o // t h e // h e a r t,
a n d // g o o d // n e w s // g i v e s
h e a l t h // t o // t h e // b o n e s.
p r o v e r b s // 1 5 : 3 0

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Dwell #118: The Messengers In Your Life - Vera & Natalie Jan 10, 2022

Are you loving this month's verse? We hope so! We chose it because we wanted to kick off the year with a reminder of hope, joy, and good health. You'll hear a little bit more about that in today's episode as we introduce the January 2022 verse; Proverbs 15:30.
On today's show we're talking about:
-How and why we picked Proverbs 15:30
-The messengers in our own lives
-What it looks like to be a messenger of good news
-Ideas for life on life discipleship
-A great book recommendation for you to share with your kids

Links from today's show:
You Are Special by Max Lucado

l i g h t // i n // a // m e s s e n g e r ' s // e y e s
b r i n g s // j o y // t o // t h e // h e a r t,
a n d // g o o d // n e w s // g i v e s
h e a l t h // t o // t h e // b o n e s.
p r o v e r b s // 1 5 : 3 0

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Dwell #117: So Long, 2021 - Vera & Natalie Jan 03, 2022

What just happened!? You guys - we've entered a new year! Happy 2022!
Before we dive into our January 2022 verse (have you seen it yet?? It's so good!), we're going to take some time to reflect back on what exciting things happened with Dwell in 2021.
On today's show we're talking about:
-The Dwell verse tracker and our goal for 1 million verses memorized!
-Where we started and where we're going (and how thankful we are that you're along with us for the ride.
-Vera & Natalie's most impactful 2021 verses
-The Seed Company; our partnership with them and our family tie to Bible translation

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Dwell #116: Sorry, But You Can't Earn This - Tara-Leigh Cobble Dec 27, 2021

Meet December's Dwell Guest; Tara-Leigh Cobble! Tara-Leigh is an author, podcast host, and Bible teacher who has an obvious passion for pointing people to a Jesus through gaining a deeper understanding of the Word. She's got some great thoughts to share with you this month, and you're going to love the Bible reading resources she has available. We're thrilled to have her with us and know that you're going to love hearing from her!
Here's what we're talking about today!
-The encouragements and challenges in this verse
-Why we need Jesus' life, not just his death
-Our spiritual bankruptcy
-The sufficient work of Jesus
Links from today's show:
About Tara-Leigh Cobble
The Bible Recap Podcast
The Bible Recap Book
He's Where the Joy Is - Getting to Know the Captivating God of the Trinity
D-Groups
T h e // W o r d
b e c a m e // f l e s h
a n d // m a d e
h i s // d w e l l i n g
a m o n g // u s.

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Dwell #115: Our Ransom - Tara-Leigh Cobble Dec 20, 2021

Meet December's Dwell Guest; Tara-Leigh Cobble! Tara-Leigh is an author, podcast host, and Bible teacher who has an obvious passion for pointing people to a Jesus through gaining a deeper understanding of the Word. She's got some great thoughts to share with you this month, and you're going to love the Bible reading resources she has available. We're thrilled to have her with us and know that you're going to love hearing from her!
Here's what we're talking about today!
-Context for our verse (John 1:14a)
-What it means that Jesus "took on flesh"
-Letting God do the work
-Jesus' role as our "translator"
-The Trinity
Links from today's show:
About Tara-Leigh Cobble
The Bible Recap Podcast
The Bible Recap Book
He's Where the Joy Is - Getting to Know the Captivating God of the Trinity
D-Groups
T h e // W o r d
b e c a m e // f l e s h
a n d // m a d e
h i s // d w e l l i n g
a m o n g // u s.

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Dwell #114: We're Being Pursued - Tara-Leigh Cobble Dec 13, 2021

Meet December's Dwell Guest; Tara-Leigh Cobble! Tara-Leigh is an author, podcast host, and Bible teacher who has an obvious passion for pointing people to a Jesus through gaining a deeper understanding of the Word. She's got some great thoughts to share with you this month, and you're going to love the Bible reading resources she has available. We're thrilled to have her with us and know that you're going to love hearing from her!
Here's what we're talking about today!
-Telescopic and microscopic ways of studying the Bible
-Resources that Tara-Leigh has created for Bible study (see links below)
-Experiencing scripture come to life while on trips to Israel
Links from today's show:
About Tara-Leigh Cobble
The Bible Recap Podcast
The Bible Recap Book
He's Where the Joy Is
D-Groups
T h e // W o r d
b e c a m e // f l e s h
a n d // m a d e
h i s // d w e l l i n g
a m o n g // u s.
J o h n // 1 : 1 4a

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Dwell #113: The Infinite Becomes Infant - Vera & Natalie Dec 06, 2021

It's December! Merry Christmas! We have been waiting and waiting to share this month's verse and design with you. It's one of our favorites and we hope you'll be blessed by it. If you haven't checked it out yet, head over to our Insta page @dwelldifferently and take a look. On today's episode we're diving into the beautiful truth that Jesus became human and made his dwelling among us. We hope that you'll find encouragement and focus on the true meaning of Christmas today and throughout the holiday season.
Here's what we're talking about today!
- Jesus' perfect ability to understand us as humans
- The unbelievable plan that God had to save the world
- How we can mirror Jesus' example of incarnation
- A beautiful song that expresses the reality of this December memory verse
Link's from today's show:
"Immanuel " - Beautiful Eulogy
t h e // W o r d
b e c a m e // f l e s h
a n d // m a d e // h i s
d w e l l i n g // a m o n g // u s.
J o h n 1 : 1 4 a

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Dwell #112: The One Who Makes the Promise - Katie Guiliano Nov 29, 2021

The Bible is full of beautiful words - and today's guest, Katie Guiliano, has made it her mission to translate that beauty into intentional tools that draw us further into scripture. Katie is the founder of Hosanna Revival. Her company has the most gorgeous bibles, journals, devos, and more! Give today's episode a listen and then go check her out!
Here's what we're talking about today!
-Personal examples of persistence
-When you plant the seeds but someone else reaps the harvest
-Times when kindness is is not well received or acknowledged
-Knowing God's character and trusting in the one who makes these promises to us
-Psalm 126
Links from today's show:
Hosanna Revival
Psalm 126
Psalm 126 - song from Bifrost Arts
Dwell #110: Beauty In The Word - Katie Guiliano
Dwell #111: The Harvest You're Actually Promised - Katie Guiliano

L e t // u s // n o t // b e c o m e // w e a r y
i n // d o i n g // g o o d,
f o r // a t // t h e // p r o p e r // t i m e
w e // w i l l // r e a p // a // h a r v e s t
i f // w e // d o // n o t // g i v e // u p.
G a l a t i a n s // 6 : 9

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Dwell #111: The Harvest You're Actually Promised - Katie Guiliano Nov 22, 2021

The Bible is full of beautiful words - and today's guest, Katie Guiliano, has made it her mission to translate that beauty into intentional tools that draw us further into scripture. Katie is the founder of Hosanna Revival. Her company has the most gorgeous bibles, journals, devos, and more! Give today's episode a listen and then go check her out!
Here's what we're talking about today!
-The commonly used phrase, "You reap what you sow."
-Our understanding of what harvest we're promised
-Seeds of eternal importance that we can sow
Links from today's show:
Hosanna Revival
Dwell #110: Beauty In The Word - Katie Guiliano
L e t // u s // n o t // b e c o m e // w e a r y
i n // d o i n g // g o o d,
f o r // a t // t h e // p r o p e r // t i m e
w e // w i l l // r e a p // a // h a r v e s t
i f // w e // d o // n o t // g i v e // u p.
G a l a t i a n s // 6 : 9

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Dwell #110: Beauty In The Word - Katie Guiliano Nov 15, 2021

The Bible is full of beautiful words - and today's guest, Katie Guiliano, has made it her mission to translate that beauty into intentional tools that draw us further into scripture. Katie is the founder of Hosanna Revival. Her company has the most gorgeous bibles, journals, devos, and more! Give today's episode a listen and then go check her out!
Here's what we're talking about today!
-How Hosanna Revival began
-Persistence in day to day work life
-The goodness of God to know and provide for us personally
-Using the gifts that we've been given
Links from today's show:
Hosanna Revival
L e t // u s // n o t // b e c o m e // w e a r y
i n // d o i n g // g o o d,
f o r // a t // t h e // p r o p e r // t i m e
w e // w i l l // r e a p // a // h a r v e s t
i f // w e // d o // n o t // g i v e // u p.
G a l a t i a n s // 6 : 9

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Dwell #109: Advent Blocks - Clayton Greene & Chris Pappalardo Nov 08, 2021

The countdown to Christmas is on, and you're not going to want to miss this episode. Special guests, Chris and Clayton from the Advent Blocks team are joining us to talk about how we can keep Jesus central throughout the Christmas season. Advent Blocks help kids and parents anticipate the birth of Jesus, and not just presents.
Here's what we're talking about today!
- What is Advent?
- How Advent Blocks were created and how they work
- A special promo code for Dwell listeners
- ** SPOILER ALERT** Find out the December Dwell verse, and the hidden message on Advent Blocks!
Links from today's show:
Advent Blocks - use code DWELL for 10% off

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Dwell #108: Heavenly Deposits - Vera & Natalie Nov 01, 2021

Welcome to November! It's time for a new verse! We're inching towards the holidays and we want yo to hear what this verse has to say about persistence and handling weariness.
Here's what we're talking about today!
- Persistence in your every day life
- Healthy ways to handle weariness
- Heavenly deposits put toward our eternal life
- An Advent teaser!
L e t // u s // n o t // b e c o m e // w e a r y
i n // d o i n g // g o o d,
f o r // a t // t h e // p r o p e r // t i m e
w e // w i l l // r e a p // a // h a r v e s t
i f // w e // d o // n o t // g i v e // u p.
G a l a t i a n s // 6 : 9

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Dwell #107: Refinement - Lindsay May Oct 25, 2021

Lindsay is wrapping up our time together with a great episode today. We're talking about some tough stuff - the kinds of things that bring refinement in our lives. If you've loved chatting with Lindsay May this month, make sure to check her out at The Truly Co Magazine and Podcast (links below).
Here's what we're talking about today!
-Lessons from Lindsay's time in Israel
-A literal back breaking experience
-Practical ways to renew your spirit
-How to encourage friends not to lose heart
Links from today's show:
-The Truly Co Magazine
-The Truly Co Podcast
T h e r e f o r e // w e // d o // n o t
l o s e // h e a r t.
T h o u g h // o u t w a r d l y
w e // a r e // w a s t i n g // a w a y,
y e t // i n w a r d l y // w e // a r e
b e i n g // r e n e w e d // d a y // b y // d a y.
2 C o r i n t h i a n s // 4 : 1 6

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Dwell #106: Don't Stay Stagnant - Lindsay May Oct 18, 2021

It's a joy to continue my chat with Lindsay May today. We're digging deeper into what the purpose of renewal is in our lives. Lindsay shares a great analogy about the importance of renewal with us and reminds us of the hope we have in the one who does the renewing. Thanks for listening with us today.
Here's what we're talking about today!
-The purpose of renewal
-Suffering in our lives
-Hope in the unseen
Links from today's show:
-The Truly Co Magazine
-The Truly Co Podcast
T h e r e f o r e // w e // d o // n o t
l o s e // h e a r t.
T h o u g h // o u t w a r d l y
w e // a r e // w a s t i n g // a w a y,
y e t // i n w a r d l y // w e // a r e
b e i n g // r e n e w e d // d a y // b y // d a y.
2 C o r i n t h i a n s // 4 : 1 6

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Dwell #105: Spiritual Renewal - Lindsay May Oct 11, 2021

Meet my friend, Lindsay May! I've been WAITING to introduce you to her for way too long. She's the founder and publisher of The Truly Co. Magazine. It's just such a beautiful, inspiring magazine. I love it! Lindsay has assembled the most amazing team of writers, photographers, and artists to create the Truly Co. content. You'e going to love hearing from her.
Here's what we're talking about today!
-How Truly Co. began
-Lindsay's passion for beauty and relatable stories
-Ways we care for ourselves and embrace our renewal in Jesus
Links from today's show:
-The Truly Co Magazine
-The Truly Co Podcast
-The Parable of the Lost Son (Luke 15:11-32)
T h e r e f o r e // w e // d o // n o t
l o s e // h e a r t.
T h o u g h // o u t w a r d l y
w e // a r e // w a s t i n g // a w a y,
y e t // i n w a r d l y // w e // a r e
b e i n g // r e n e w e d // d a y // b y // d a y.
2 C o r i n t h i a n s // 4 : 1 6

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Dwell #104: What A Promise - Vera & Natalie Oct 04, 2021

Welcome to October! It's time for a new verse! Jump in and hear a little bit of the behind the scenes of this month's memory verse, 2 Corinthians 4:16.
Here's what we're talking about today!
-The reason for this month's tattoo and print designs
-A Dwell member must have
-Leaning on the promise in this verse
-How we can participate in our day by day renewal
T h e r e f o r e // w e // d o // n o t
l o s e // h e a r t.
T h o u g h // o u t w a r d l y
w e // a r e // w a s t i n g // a w a y,
y e t // i n w a r d l y // w e // a r e
b e i n g // r e n e w e d // d a y // b y // d a y.
2 C o r i n t h i a n s // 4 : 1 6

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Dwell #103: Scripture's World Wide Impact - Mark Farr Sep 27, 2021

We are so thankful for today's guest, Mark Farr, and for the work that he and his team are doing with Seed Company. Seed Company's mission is to translate the Bible into every language of every people group, to the ends of the earth. How amazing is that!? We are humbled to be able to partner with them in working towards this goal, and we can't wait for you to hear more from Mark this mont.
Here's what we're talking about today!
-Creating muscle memory for scripture
-The context of our memory verse (Deuteronomy 11:18a)
-Practical ways to "fix these words" in our hearts and minds
-A first hand account from Mark of how scripture translation is impacting lives around the world
-"You Pick Two" : ways you and I can partner with the Seed Company
Links from today's show:
Dwell + The Seed Company. Your purchases are helping to support Bible translation!
Read more about the amazing work of the Seed Company.
F i x // t h e s e // w o r d s
o f // m i n e // i n // y o u r
h e a r t s // a n d // m i n d s
D e u t e r o n o m y // 11 : 18a

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Dwell #102: The Sweetness of Scripture - Mark Farr Sep 20, 2021

We are so thankful for today's guest, Mark Farr, and for the work that he and his team are doing with Seed Company. Seed Company's mission is to translate the Bible into every language of every people group, to the ends of the earth. How amazing is that!? We are humbled to be able to partner with them in working towards this goal, and we can't wait for you to hear more from Mark this mont.
Here's what we're talking about today!
-Why can't we just use Google translate?
-Our own forgetful hearts and minds and the need for many reminders of scripture.
-Defining the term "Gospel Poverty" and understanding how it drives the mission of Seed Company.
Did you know Dwell is supporting the Seed Company's efforts Guatemala?
Click here to find our more!
Links from today's show:
Seed Company
F i x // t h e s e // w o r d s
o f // m i n e // i n // y o u r
h e a r t s // a n d // m i n d s
D e u t e r o n o m y // 11 : 18a

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Dwell #101: Heroes On The Ground - Mark Farr Sep 13, 2021

We are so thankful for today's guest, Mark Farr, and for the work that he and his team are doing with Seed Company. Seed Company's mission is to translate the Bible into every language of every people group, to the ends of the earth. How amazing is that!? We are humbled to be able to partner with them in working towards this goal, and we can't wait for you to hear more from Mark this month.
Here's what we're talking about today!
-Mark's journey of bringing Bible translation to the nations.
-A quick lesson on how many languages there are in the world, and the amount of them that do not have a Bible translation (yet!).
-Why Seed Company uses local people to lead the translation efforts.
-A final cliff hanger question to ponder for next week!
Did you know Dwell is supporting the Seed Company's efforts Guatemala?
Click here to find our more!
Links from today's show:
Seed Company
Mission Possible by Marilyn Laszlo
Wycliffe Bible Translators
F i x // t h e s e // w o r d s
o f // m i n e // i n // y o u r
h e a r t s // a n d // m i n d s
D e u t e r o n o m y // 11 : 18a

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Dwell #100: Why It Matters - Vera & Natalie Sep 06, 2021

It's a new month. Are you ready to dive into Deuteronomy 11:18a with us!? Let's get God's words into our hearts and minds.
Here's what we're talking about today!
-Why scripture memorization is important
-How the words we've memorized come back to us and impact our lives
-Some of the surprises we've encountered along the way as Dwell has grown
-The verses that Vera & Natalie find themselves coming back to over and over again
-Our goal for Dwell members to memorize 1 million verses! Check out our verse counter (scroll almost to the bottom of the page to see it!)
F i x // t h e s e // w o r d s
o f // m i n e // i n // y o u r
h e a r t s // a n d // m i n d s
D e u t e r o n o m y // 11 : 18a

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Meet Ruthie : Dwell Designer - Ruthie Haas Aug 30, 2021

Have you ever wondered how the Dwell designs are created?
Ruthie is here to answer that question for you today! Take few minute to meet our sweet friend and hear some behind the scenes info on how the memory verse designs are created.
Members! Don't miss out on your freebies! Go over to our site, log in, and take a look at the Member Shop. We've got digital downloads for your phone and computer - plus a new coloring sheet every month.

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Access Granted - Jenny McGee Aug 23, 2021

This month Jenny McGee, founder of Starfish Project, joins Natalie to discuss 2 Timothy 1:7. Starfish Project exists to help exploited women and girls experience freedom, establish independence and develop careers. This amazing organization came about when Jenny took a bold step of faith to help those around her.
Here's what we're talking about today!
-A big anniversary for Starfish Project
-Walking daily with the Spirit
-The amazing truth that we have access to God and his power
-Ways to seek out mentors in your life
We want to sincerely thank Jenny and her team for the work that they're doing in Asia through Starfish Project. Their boldness, love, and self-discipline are an encouragement to us.
John 1:5 Necklace : Starfish Project & Dwell collaboration
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F o r // t h e // S p i r i t
G o d // g a v e // u s
d o e s // n o t // m a k e
u s // t i m i d // b u t
g i v e s // u s // p o w e r
l o v e // a n d // s e l f - d i s c i p l i n e
2 // T i m o t h y // 1 : 7

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Must Be the Spirit - Jenny McGee Aug 16, 2021

This month Jenny McGee, founder of Starfish Project, joins Natalie to discuss 2 Timothy 1:7. Starfish Project exists to help exploited women and girls experience freedom, establish independence and develop careers. This amazing organization came about when Jenny took a bold step of faith to help those around her.
Here's what we're talking about today!
-Unexpected opposites within the verse.
-Releasing control and fear of failure.
-The work that Starfish Project is doing within brothels, and the support they receive.
-What it looks like to discern God's leading in our lives.
John 1:5 Necklace : Starfish Project & Dwell collaboration
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F o r // t h e // S p i r i t
G o d // g a v e // u s
d o e s // n o t // m a k e
u s // t i m i d // b u t
g i v e s // u s // p o w e r
l o v e // a n d // s e l f - d i s c i p l i n e
2 // T i m o t h y // 1 : 7

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Be Bold - Jenny McGee Aug 09, 2021

This month Jenny McGee, founder of Starfish Project, joins Natalie to discuss 2 Timothy 1:7. Starfish Project exists to help exploited women and girls experience freedom, establish independence and develop careers. This amazing organization came about when Jenny took a bold step of faith to help those around her.
Here's what we're talking about today!
-The Dwell Differently + Starfish Project necklace collaboration.
-The creation of Starfish Project in Asia.
-How the jewelry is helping to establish careers and confidence.
-Jenny's background and what brought her to Asia.
-Stepping boldly into the calling that God lays on our hearts.
John 1:5 Necklace : Starfish Project & Dwell collaboration
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F o r // t h e // S p i r i t
G o d // g a v e // u s
d o e s // n o t // m a k e
u s // t i m i d // b u t
g i v e s // u s // p o w e r
l o v e // a n d // s e l f - d i s c i p l i n e
2 // T i m o t h y // 1 : 7

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Empowered by the Spirit - Vera & Natalie Aug 02, 2021

This month we are talking about how God's own Spirit lives in us, giving us power, love, and self-discipline. Oh YEAH!
Vera and Nat take you through each of these concepts, talking about which of these gifts of the Spirit speaks most to them, why this verse only tackles three gifts of the Spirit, and even the why some translations have sound mind instead of self-discipline. It's some good stuff people.
Can't wait to get going on this verse:
F o r // t h e // S p i r i t
G o d // g a v e // u s
d o e s // n o t // m a k e
u s // t i m i d // b u t
g i v e s // u s // p o w e r
l o v e // a n d // s e l f - d i s c i p l i n e
2 // T i m o t h y // 1 : 7
For more insights into this month's verse, check out Natalie's weekly devo on the Dwell website, www.dwelldifferently.com.

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The Art of the Gracious "No" - Alli Worthington Jul 26, 2021

This episode is so so good. Alli is bringing it home and wrapping up her last episode with us by leaving us with some very encouraging tips on how to put rest into practice. She's giving us permission to offer a gracious "no" when we need to. She's encouraging us to take care of what's in front of us. And, she's even suggesting that we make a "stop doing" list.
We hope that this verse and these conversations have encouraged you to find rest this month. Thanks for listening!
Find out more about Alli Worthington here.
r e t u r n // t o // y o u r // r e s t
m y // s o u l
f o r // t h e // L o r d
h a s // b e e n // g o o d // t o // y o u.
p s a l m 116 : 7

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Patterns of Rest - Alli Worthington Jul 19, 2021

It's summer. Maybe that means a slower pace and relaxing days... Or... maybe that means new patterns and routines and a faster-than-normal post pandemic pace. Whatever your schedule looks like these days, we bet you'd benefit from finding a healthy pattern of rest.
Today we're talking about biblical rest. What is it and how do we work towards it? Alli has some great tips for us.
Find out more about Alli Worthington here.
r e t u r n // t o // y o u r // r e s t
m y // s o u l
f o r // t h e // L o r d
h a s // b e e n // g o o d // t o // y o u.
p s a l m 116 : 7

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Quality Freak Out Time - Alli Worthington Jul 12, 2021

Do you need to schedule some "quality freak out time"?
We can't wait for you to hear about how important it can be from this month's featured guest, Alli Worthington. She's an author, speaker, coach, wife, and busy mom of 5 sons.
And we just love her! She has so much to teach us about what it looks like to really rest. She's got so much wisdom on this topic, in fact, she wrote the book about it; it's called Breaking Busy : How To Find Peace & Purpose in a World of Crazy. We just know you're gonna love hearing from her about how to take a break from the busy and get to the heart of rest.
In today's episode Alli and Natalie talk about the differences between good busy and bad busy. And Alli gives us permission to schedule some "quality freak out time" when we need it!
To learn more about Alli and her books and resources, check out her site here.
r e t u r n // t o // y o u r // r e s t
m y // s o u l
f o r // t h e // L o r d
h a s // b e e n // g o o d // t o // y o u.
p s a l m 116 : 7

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Need Some Rest? - Vera & Natalie Jul 05, 2021

Summer is in full swing, life's pace is picking up in this post pandemic time, and this verse is bringing us something that we need : R E S T. If you're a long time listener, you know that this first week of the month is always Vera & Natalie (Dwell Co-Founders/sisters) introducing the new verse to us and sharing some of their thoughts. We are eager to jump into Psalm 116:7 with you all this month. May your soul find rest as you memorize and learn about this verse.
*Get Out of Your Head by Jennie Allen
r e t u r n // t o
y o u r // r e s t
m y // s o u l
f o r // t h e
L O R D // h a s
b e e n // g o o d
t o // y o u
p s a l m // 1 1 6 : 7

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Released From My Courtroom - Ruth Chou Simons Jun 28, 2021

Oh friends. This is a good one. The final part of our verse leads us to the discussion of forgiveness. We've all been there, in a spot where we need to forgive, or move towards forgiveness, but sometimes it is HARD! We hope that today's episode will be encouraging to you in all the right ways. We're thankful for Ruth's vulnerability and wisdom that she has shared today and throughout the month of June. If you missed any of her past episodes, go take a quick listen!
b e // k i n d // a n d // c o m p a s s i o n a t e
t o // o n e // a n o t h e r,
f o r g i v i n g // e a c h // o t h e r
j u s t // a s // i n // C h r i s t
G o d // f o r g a v e // y o u.
E p h e s i a n s // 4: 3 2
Find out more about Ruth Chou Simons here.

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A Posture of Kindness - Ruth Chou Simons Jun 21, 2021

Be kind and compassionate. Ok...but...how? What exactly is kindness, and how can we muster that up all on our own? These are the things we're diving into today with Ruth Chou Simons.
We all encounter people who are difficult to be kind and compassionate towards. That's just life. But what we believe about God and the posture that we take towards those people, impacts why and how we can show kindness.
Find out more about Ruth Chou Simons here.
b e // k i n d // a n d // c o m p a s s i o n a t e
t o // o n e // a n o t h e r,
f o r g i v i n g // e a c h // o t h e r
j u s t // a s // i n // C h r i s t
G o d // f o r g a v e // y o u.
E p h e s i a n s // 4: 3 2

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Beauty in the Word - Ruth Chou Simons Jun 14, 2021

We are thrilled to introduce you to our June Dwell Guest, Ruth Chou Simons! You may know her from her art and lifestyle brand, Gracelaced, or from some of her recent writings such as Beholding and Becoming or Foundations. If you don't know her yet, today is a great opportunity to hear from her and to be encouraged!
In today's episode Ruth is sharing her eye for beauty with us. We love connecting with other artists who are working toward drawing us closer to God and his Word. You're going to love spending the month of June with us and with Ruth!
Find out more about Ruth Chou Simons here.
ESV Journaling Bible "Be Transformed"
b e // k i n d // a n d // c o m p a s s i o n a t e
t o // o n e // a n o t h e r,
f o r g i v i n g // e a c h // o t h e r
j u s t // a s // i n // C h r i s t
G o d // f o r g a v e // y o u.
E p h e s i a n s // 4: 3 2

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Simple, But Hard - Vera & Natalie Jun 07, 2021

At first glance, the application of our verse this month seems simple. But when we really break it down... it's actually a little more tricky than we'd like to admit! Kindness, compassion, forgiveness—can we do it? Not on our own. But, because of what Jesus as done for us, there's hope. We can't wait to dig into this with you more today and throughout June!
B e // k i n d
a n d // c o m p a s s i o n a t e
t o // o n e // a n o t h e r ,
f o r g i v i n g // e a c h // o t h e r ,
j u s t // a s // i n // C h r i s t
G o d // f o r g a v e // y ou .
E p h e s i a n s // 4 : 3 2

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Special: KID Guests! - The Bush Family May 31, 2021

A few weeks ago we received the sweetest letters from a few of our youngest Dwell members. They shared with us how much they love using their Dwell kits to memorize scripture. We were so excited about what they share with us that we knew we had to turn around and share it with you today!
Enjoy our chat with the Busch family kids. We know you'll be as encouraged as we were.
D o // n o t // c o n f o r m
t o // t h e // p a t t e r n // o f // t h i s // w o r l d
b u t // b e // t r a n s f o r m e d // b y // t h e
r e n e w i n g // o f // y o u r // m i n d .
T h e n // y o u // w i l l // b e // a b l e // t o // t e s t
a n d // a p p r o v e // w h a t // G o d ’ s // w i l l // i s —
h i s // g o o d // p l e a s i n g // a n d // p e r f e c t // w i l l .
R O M A N S // 12 // 2

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Renewing Your Mind - Crystal Paine May 24, 2021

These show notes are going to be GOLD for you today! Crystal wraps up her last interview with us by sharing a huge list of tips for cramming as much of God's word into your mind as possible. Check those resources out below!
Daily Light, Morning & Evening Edition by Samuel Bagster
She Reads Truth & He Reads Truth daily reading plans
YouVersion Bible App
Bible Gateway
First 5 App
Learn more about Crystal here.
Check out Crystal's new book, Love Centered Parenting.
Listen to The Crystal Paine Show.
D o // n o t // c o n f o r m
t o // t h e // p a t t e r n
o f // t h i s // w o r l d
b u t // b e // t r a n s f o r m e d
b y // t h e // r e n e w i n g
o f // y o u r // m i n d .
T h e n // y o u // w i l l
b e // a b l e // t o // t e s t
a n d // a p p r o v e // w h a t
G o d ’ s // w i l l // i s —
h i s // g o o d // p l e a s i n g
a n d // p e r f e c t // w i l l .
R O M A N S // 12 // 2

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How Would "Loved You" Live? - Crystal Paine May 17, 2021

We don't want to give all the good stuff from today's episode away... but here's one of our favorite tidbits.
During our chat, Crystal mentions that she often thinks of the question, " How would 'loved me' live?". Pushing out the lies, and leaning into the truth that you are loved by God; how would that impact your life? Renewing our minds with scriptural truth makes all the difference.
Learn more about Crystal here.
Check out Crystal's new book, Love Centered Parenting.
Listen to The Crystal Paine Show.
D o // n o t // c o n f o r m
t o // t h e // p a t t e r n
o f // t h i s // w o r l d
b u t // b e // t r a n s f o r m e d
b y // t h e // r e n e w i n g
o f // y o u r // m i n d .
T h e n // y o u // w i l l
b e // a b l e // t o // t e s t
a n d // a p p r o v e // w h a t
G o d ’ s // w i l l // i s —
h i s // g o o d // p l e a s i n g
a n d // p e r f e c t // w i l l .
R O M A N S // 12 // 2

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Seeking Discernment - Crystal Paine May 10, 2021

Ready to meet our May Featured Guest? Let us introduce you to Crystal Paine! Crystal is a wife, mom, speaker, author, and online entrepreneur. You may know her as The Money Saving Mom, or as the author of Love Centered Parenting.
Today we're talking about our verse, Romans 12:2, and how the discernment of God's will has played out in Crystal's life over the past few years. Thanks for listening!
Learn more about Crystal here.
Check out Crystal's new book, Love Centered Parenting.
Listen to The Crystal Paine Show.
D o // n o t // c o n f o r m
t o // t h e // p a t t e r n
o f // t h i s // w o r l d
b u t // b e // t r a n s f o r m e d
b y // t h e // r e n e w i n g
o f // y o u r // m i n d .
T h e n // y o u // w i l l
b e // a b l e // t o // t e s t
a n d // a p p r o v e // w h a t
G o d ’ s // w i l l // i s —
h i s // g o o d // p l e a s i n g
a n d // p e r f e c t // w i l l .
R O M A N S // 12 // 2

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He Showed Up - Vera & Natalie May 03, 2021

New month, new verse!
Today we're diving in to talk about Romans 12:2.
Vera & Natalie share personal experiences of times when they were wrestling through discerning God's will for their lives.
D o // n o t // c o n f o r m
t o // t h e // p a t t e r n
o f // t h i s // w o r l d
b u t // b e // t r a n s f o r m e d
b y // t h e // r e n e w i n g
o f // y o u r // m i n d .
T h e n // y o u // w i l l
b e // a b l e // t o // t e s t
a n d // a p p r o v e // w h a t
G o d ’ s // w i l l // i s —
h i s // g o o d // p l e a s i n g
a n d // p e r f e c t // w i l l .
R O M A N S // 12 // 2

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Are You There? - Christine Gordon Apr 26, 2021

Just beyond our verse, Romans 8:31, we find a list of things that often times feel like they can separate us from God. What's on your list? Stress? Anxiety? You name it- it's included in the "N O T H I N G" that can detach you from God and his love for you.
We have been so blessed by our time with Christine Gordon this month, and we hope that you have been as well. If you'd like to learn more from Chris, go check out At His Feet Studies, for a list of her studies. We know you won't be disappointed!
W h a t // t h e n
s h a l l // w e // s a y
i n // r e s p o n s e
t o // t h e s e // t h i n g s ?
I f // G o d // i s
f o r // u s // w h o // c a n
b e // a g a i n s t // u s ?
R o m a n s // 8 : 3 1
Find out more about Chris:
At His Feet Studies

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These Things - Christine Gordon Apr 19, 2021

We're digging deeper this week! If you've got a Bible handy, pop it open to Romans 8 and join us in our chat about what Paul refers to as "these things". Chris is bringing the truth today, and we are here for it.
Bonus - she's sharing a little bit more about how and why she wrote her study on Romans with her friend, Hope. Enjoy!
W h a t // t h e n
s h a l l // w e // s a y
i n // r e s p o n s e
t o // t h e s e // t h i n g s ?
I f // G o d // i s
f o r // u s // w h o // c a n
b e // a g a i n s t // u s ?
R o m a n s // 8 : 3 1
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At His Feet Studies

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Answering Life's Big Questions - Christine Gordon Apr 12, 2021

Meet Christine Gordon. Chris writes Bible studies for At His Feet Studies—including one on the book of Romans. So you better believe that we're excited to pick her brain about this month's verse from Romans.
Today we get to know Chris' story just a bit. If you're someone who always asks the "why" questions, you'll really relate to our discussion today. Chris grew up with that question always on the forefront of her mind, and we are so thankful that she did. Her mind is well-trained for thinking and discussing life's big questions. Thankfully though, as Chris reminds us, it's not a WHY that we need, but a WHO—Jesus. And, if he's for us, who can be against us?
W h a t // t h e n
s h a l l // w e // s a y
i n // r e s p o n s e
t o // t h e s e // t h i n g s ?
I f // G o d // i s
f o r // u s // w h o // c a n
b e // a g a i n s t // u s ?
R o m a n s // 8 : 3 1
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At His Feet Studies

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Someone Who's For Us - Vera & Natalie Apr 05, 2021

Our lives can feel full of things working against us. Internal things. External things. Things unseen. We NEED someone to be FOR us! And, good news, that's exactly what this month's verse tells us: God is for us. He's bigger than every hardship or worry. Though we are unfaithful, he remains steady.
Thank you for listening and memorizing with us this month. We're so glad you're here!
-Vera & Nat
W h a t // t h e n
s h a l l // w e // s a y
i n // r e s p o n s e
t o // t h e s e // t h i n g s ?
I f // G o d // i s
f o r // u s // w h o // c a n
b e // a g a i n s t // u s ?
R o m a n s // 8 : 3 1

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Easter Traditions - Vera & Natalie Mar 29, 2021

How do you celebrate Easter? Do you have a certain candy that you always get? Is there a church service you look forward to each year?
Vera & Natalie share some of their favorite Easter traditions with us in today's episode. They've got everything from creepy bunny costumes to a special recipe your kids will love! Thanks for listening - we hope that you experience the victory of the cross this Easter.

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Forgiven! - Curtis Gilbert Mar 22, 2021

There could not be any better news to share with you than this: as children of Jesus, we are forgiven! Once and for all. His wounds have healed us! That is true on the days you feel it and on the days you don't.
If you've ever wondered how to become a Christian, Pastor Curtis gives us the low down on what that looks like. It's both simple and profound. We hope you enjoy this final interview with Curtis Gilbert. Thanks for listening!
b u t // h e // w a s // p i e r c e d
f o r // o u r // t r a n s g r e s s i o n s,
h e // w a s // c r u s h e d // f o r // o u r // i n i q u i t i e s;
t h e // p u n i s h m e n t // t h a t
b r o u g h t // u s // p e a c e // w a s // o n // h i m,
a n d // b y // h i s // w o u n d s // w e // a r e // h e a l e d.
isaiah 53:5
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What's So Good About Good Friday? - Curtis Gilbert Mar 15, 2021

What exactly is Good Friday? Why do we call it that? If you've ever wondered this, or maybe you've been asked this question, but weren't really sure how to answer it, today's chat is going to help you out!
The day of celebration is coming, but we can't get there without first going through this sacrifice of Good Friday. We can't wait to look at this day through the lens of Easter.
b u t // h e // w a s // p i e r c e d
f o r // o u r // t r a n s g r e s s i o n s,
h e // w a s // c r u s h e d // f o r // o u r // i n i q u i t i e s;
t h e // p u n i s h m e n t // t h a t
b r o u g h t // u s // p e a c e // w a s // o n // h i m,
a n d // b y // h i s // w o u n d s // w e // a r e // h e a l e d.
isaiah 53:5
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Finding Peace - Curtis Gilbert Mar 08, 2021

It's time to introduce you to our March featured guest, Curtis Gilbert!
Pastor Curtis our very own cofounder, Vera Schmitz's, pastor. He's Senior Pastor of the Journey Church in St. Louis, MO.
Today, Pastor Curtis is helping us to look towards the victory of Easter that's just around the corner. He shares some of his own story of how he personally experienced the peace and healing of Jesus in his own life. We can't wait for you to meet him, he is both deep and lighthearted. You're going to enjoy listening in as we start digging into this month's verse:
b u t // h e // w a s // p i e r c e d
f o r // o u r // t r a n s g r e s s i o n s,
h e // w a s // c r u s h e d // f o r // o u r // i n i q u i t i e s;
t h e // p u n i s h m e n t // t h a t
b r o u g h t // u s // p e a c e // w a s // o n // h i m,
a n d // b y // h i s // w o u n d s // w e // a r e // h e a l e d.
isaiah 53:5
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Hard But Hopeful - Vera & Natalie Mar 01, 2021

Easter is just around the corner, and we plan to spend the nest few weeks setting our eyes and hearts on the cross. Our verse holds both hard AND hopeful truth in it and we can't wait to unpack it with you.
b u t // h e // w a s // p i e r c e d // f o r // o u r
t r a n s g r e s s i o n s,
h e // w a s // c r u s h e d // f o r // o u r
i n i q u i t i e s;
t h e // p u n i s h m e n t // t h a t // b r o u g h t
u s // p e a c e // w a s // o n // h i m,
a n d // b y // h i s // w o u n d s // w e // a r e // h e a l e d.
i s a i a h 53 : 5

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Children of Light - Kristy Cambron Feb 22, 2021

We're wrapping up our time with Kristy Cambron by talking about what it means to "live as children of light". You'll find some practical applications and some personal stories in today's conversation. What does this part of our memory verse mean to you? How are you a child of light? Don't be shy- share! Talking about this topic and holding one another accountable plays right into living this out!
f o r // y o u // w e r e // o n c e
D A R K N E S S
b u t // n o w // y o u // a r e
L I G H T
i n // t h e // l o r d.
l i v e // a s // c h i l d r e n // o f // l i g h t
EPHESIANS 5:8
Links from today's episode:
Kristy's website
Instagram: @kristycambron
How to do Verse Mapping

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Map Your Bible! - Kristy Cambron Feb 15, 2021

You're going to want to grab your pen and your Bible for this episode! Kristy Cambron is taking us on a Bible-mapping journey. In this episode she breaks down the 5 steps to verse mapping. It is super practical and really simple. In this episode, Natalie and Kristy go deep with our verse discussion and actually verse map Ephesians 5:8 together. Do try this at home! We would love to know how you like it, so drop us a review or shoot us an email (dwell@dwelldifferently.com)!
f o r // y o u // w e r e // o n c e
D A R K N E S S
b u t // n o w // y o u // a r e
L I G H T
i n // t h e // l o r d.
l i v e // a s // c h i l d r e n // o f // l i g h t
EPHESIANS 5:8
Links from today's episode:
Kristy's website
Instagram: @kristycambron
How to do Verse Mapping
Bible Gateway
Olive Tree Bible App
Blue Letter Bible
Bible Hub

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Stories of Light - Kristy Cambron Feb 08, 2021

Friends, we are just so excited to introduce you to Kristy Cambron!
Kristy is an author who writes both fiction and non-fiction (a rare talent, for sure). It's not often you can read award-winning fiction and engage the Biblical text in deep study with the same author. But Kristy does both, using her aptitude for research to create engaging stories and thorough Bible studies. We love what she's doing, and we're pretty sure you'll love her too.
Give today's episode a listen, to hear more about her story as we discuss our verse of the month:
f o r // y o u // w e r e // o n c e
D A R K N E S S
b u t // n o w // y o u // a r e
L I G H T
i n // t h e // l o r d.
l i v e // a s // c h i l d r e n // o f // l i g h t
EPHESIANS 5:8
Want to read Kristy's latest book, or find out more about her verse mapping Bible and studies? Here you go:
Kristy's website
Instagram: @kristycambron
The Paris Dressmaker
Verse Mapping Bibles

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Live in the Light - Vera & Natalie Feb 01, 2021

Happy February! We're on to our 2nd verse of the year:
f o r // y o u // w e r e // o n c e
D A R K N E S S
b u t // n o w // y o u // a r e
L I G H T
i n // t h e // l o r d.
l i v e // a s // c h i l d r e n // o f // l i g h t
EPHESIANS 5:8
This month we're going to break down what it means to "live as children of light", and we're going to dig into all that the light does. It reveals, it heals, it encourages growth... it's where we're meant to be! Thanks so much for memorizing and listening with us!
On this episode we mention:
*Get Out of Your Head, by Jennie Allen

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Life on Life - Tracy Sullivan Jan 27, 2021

How exactly do you encourage others? And what about taking it one step further; how do you encourage others in the Lord, making disciples!?
Tracy is the girl to help us unpack these questions! During today's episode, we dig into the context of our verse in order to get to the practical application. We take a look at Paul's example of encouraging others. We hope you'll learn about what it looks like to live life on life, inviting others into the gospel and into our own, every day lives.
Want to know more about Tracy? Find out more here:
Tracy's website
Instagram: @tracysullivandiscipleship
NEW book!: Small Batch Discipleship
t h e r e f o r e // e n c o u r a g e // o n e
a n o t h e r // a n d // b u i l d // e a c h
o t h e r // u p, // j u s t // a s // i n
f a c t // y o u // a r e // d o i n g.
1 Thessalonians 5:11

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Linking Arms - Tracy Sullivan Jan 20, 2021

Last week Tracy left us with a cliff hanger question:
"Who are the people that have had the most influence in your life?"
Are they famous authors? People in high leadership positions? Or are they teachers, mentors, friends, family members? In this episode we discuss how important relationships are and the role that they play in discipleship and leadership.
Want to know more about Tracy? Find out more here:
Tracy's website
Instagram: @tracysullivandiscipleship
NEW book!: Small Batch Discipleship
t h e r e f o r e // e n c o u r a g e // o n e
a n o t h e r // a n d // b u i l d // e a c h
o t h e r // u p, // j u s t // a s // i n
f a c t // y o u // a r e // d o i n g.
1 Thessalonians 5:11

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It's the Little Things - Tracy Sullivan Jan 13, 2021

Do you have any friends that you are just deeply thankful for? The kind who share wisdom and truth, the kind who push hard for community? Today's guest, Tracy Sullivan, is one of those people. This girl is passionate about the Word, about discipleship, and about community. We know you're gonna live her just as much as we do.
Give today's episode a listen, and take a few minutes to answer Tracy's cliff hanger question at the end!
Want to know more about Tracy? Find out more here:
Tracy's website
Instagram: @tracysullivandiscipleship
NEW book!: Small Batch Discipleship
t h e r e f o r e // e n c o u r a g e // o n e
a n o t h e r // a n d // b u i l d // e a c h
o t h e r // u p, // j u s t // a s // i n
f a c t // y o u // a r e // d o i n g.
1 thessalonians 5:11

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Be the Encourager - Vera & Natalie Jan 06, 2021

Happy New Year, friends! The name of the game this month is ENCOURAGEMENT! We've got a new verse for you and we've got some great suggestions for how you can be an encourager. We can't wait to learn more and more about 1 Thessalonians 5:11 with you.
t h e r e f o r e // e n c o u r a g e // o n e
a n o t h e r // a n d // b u i l d // e a c h
o t h e r // u p, // j u s t // a s // i n
f a c t // y o u // a r e // d o i n g.
1 thessalonians 5:11

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Dwell #65: Hindsight on 2020 - Vera & Natalie Dec 30, 2020

Before we close the door on 2020, let's take a quick look back at what the Lord has done this year. It wan't an easy year, but we are certain that there has been holy work done through all that we've experienced. Our memory verses have helped to root us to the Lord this year and we hope that they've done the same for you!
Here are some questions to get you thinking:
What particular verses impacted you the most this year?
How have you seen God show up this year?
What have you learned that you could have never learned without this difficult year?
Handbook to Prayer: Praying Scripture Back to God by Kenneth Boa.

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Dwell #64: The Nature of Our God - Mary Wiley Dec 23, 2020

What we believe about God impacts every decision that we make. God is so good to give us his word so that we can know who he is! It has been a gift to spend time talking about God; the Alpha and Omega, who is, and who was, and who is to come, with Mary Wiley this month!
Find more about Mary here:
Mary's website
Instagram: @Marycwiley
Podcast: Everyday Theology + Questions Kids Ask

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Dwell #63: In the Middle - Mary Wiley Dec 16, 2020

Week #2 with Mary Wiley - and it's a good one!
During our chat with Mary today, she so wisely reminds us that no matter what we feel like we're "in the middle" of, we can know for certain what - or who - is at the beginning and the end.
It's Jesus. He's the Alpha and the Omega, just like it says in our verse this month!
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." - Revelation 1:8
Find more about Mary here:
Mary's website
Instagram: @Marycwiley
Podcast: Everyday Theology + Questions Kids Ask

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Dwell #62: Part of A Bigger Story - Mary Wiley Dec 09, 2020

Today, we welcome, Mary Wiley, our December featured guest, to the podcast!
Mary is the author of Everyday Theology, she's a podcast host, a wife and mama, a student of God's word, and a gifted teacher! Mary is passionate about knowing what we believe, why we believe it, and why it matters.
You'll be blessed to hear her story of how she came to faith through a difficult season in life. We can't wait to chat more with Mary this month!
Find more about Mary here:
Mary's website
Instagram: @Marycwiley
Podcast: Everyday Theology + Questions Kids Ask

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Dwell #61: So Long, 2020 - Vera & Natalie Dec 02, 2020

"Who is, and who was, and who is to come."
What a comfort this December verse is! 2020 has been a doozy, y'all. But, we haven't walked this crazy road alone. God, in his unchanging character, has met us time and time again.
As we chose our 2020 memory verses last year, we could never have imagined how perfectly timed they would be! We have already prayed over and chosen our 2021 verses- and we promise we only picked realllly light hearted, easy ones! Just kidding (but we are praying that 2021 is kinder to us all!). We are so grateful that you're here learning scripture with us and listening as we introduce our December verse, Revelation 1:8:
I // a m
t h e // A l p h a
a n d // t h e // O m e g a
s a y s // t h e // L o r d // G o d
w h o // i s // a n d
w h o // w a s // a n d
w h o // i s // t o // c o m e
T h e // A l m i g h t y
R e v e l a t i o n // 1 : 8

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Dwell #60: The Word In Action - Wren Robbins Nov 25, 2020

We have to know the word of God. Why? Because Jesus tells us that it's what we live on! Not just bread, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.
Natalie and Wren are breaking down our verse and getting practical in today's episode. How exactly do we live on the word? Wren graciously shares with us a few ways that the word has been life to her during everyday moments and during difficult trials.
We have loved dwelling on Matthew 4:4 with you and with Wren this month. If you have a story to share about how this verse, or another verse, has been life to you this month, leave us a review and then shoot us an email! We love hearing from you! dwell@dwelldifferently.com

Find out more about Wren here.

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Dwell #59: Fighting Words - Wren Robbins Nov 18, 2020

Pop Quiz! Do you know what's happening to Jesus as he shares Matthew 4:4 with us? Context is so important and we are answering this question for you in today's podcast with Wren Robbins.
Jesus tells us that we are not meant to live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the mouth of God. Scripture is not just important, it is crucial. It's our weapon against the enemy. It's our source of truth. It's our life line.
As Wren shares, it's not a matter of IF you'll need scripture, but a matter of WHEN you'll need it. And guess what? It's all day, every day.
Thanks for spending a few minutes listening in our our chat with Wren today. We're so glad you're here!

Find out more about Wren here.
Ellie Holcomb Fighting Words

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Dwell #58: What We Desperately Need - Wren Robbins Nov 11, 2020

We are pumped to introduce you to our November Dwell guest, Wren Robbins! Wren is not new to the world of podcasts. In fact, she is a Podcast Coach AND she's also the host of her own podcast- Friends of a Feather.
Today we're talking about just how desperately we need the Word to nourish us. Not just sometimes, not just when we're feeling a little out of sorts, but DAILY! As always, this is just the first of three episodes chatting with our featured guest. Join us each week as we dive deeper and deeper into our November memory verse:
Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.'" -Matthew 4:4
Find out more about Wren here.

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Dwell #57: Words of Life - Vera & Natalie Nov 04, 2020

Happy November! We could not be more excited to share this month's verse with you!
Jesus answered; "It is written: 'Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.'" -Matthew 4:4
While this month is often filled with feasting on good food, we will also be dwelling on the idea that God's word is our true feast. It's not the turkey and mashed potatoes that will keep us full- it's the very word of God. We are eager to share with you some examples of how the scriptures have fed our souls this year, and we also want to hear how that has happened for YOU! Shoot us an email, leave us a comment, head over to Insta and DM us...we want to know how you've been feasting on the word!

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Dwell #56: Whole and Holy Thoughts - Kristin Funston Oct 28, 2020

Today we're wrapping up our thoughts on the fruit of the Spirit, and hearing a few helpful tips from author, Kristin Funston. Listen to today's episode to hear four helpful strategies that Kristin uses to help keep her mind focused on what's true. We hope that you've been blessed by memorizing and dwelling on Galations 5:22-23 this month!
Read more from Kristin:
www.kristinfunson.com
*book noted in episode:
Nice: Why We Love to Be Liked and How God Calls Us to More
By Sharon Hodde Miller

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Dwell #55: Fruit We Cannot Manufacture - Kristin Funston Oct 21, 2020

This week we're diving deeper into the fruits of the Spirit with Kristin Funston!
We're getting nitty gritty and talking about which fruits feel harder or easier for us to let show in our lives. Which one has been a struggle for you lately?
Love? Joy? Peace? Maybe it's a few (or all of them)! Listen in today for some encouragement about where these fruits truly come from in our lives.
To hear more from Kristin, check out her site here.

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Dwell #54: Stop Striving - Kristin Funston Oct 14, 2020

Meet our member of the month, Kristin Funston! Kristin is a Christian author, speaker, web designer, and regular contributor to multiple popular blogs. She's been featured on sites such as The Better Mom, City Moms Blog, FaithIt, TODAY Parenting, and Scary Mommy.
Today we're getting to know Kristin and hearing about how the fruits of the Spirit are a welcomed rest for our souls. To learn more about Kristin, check out her site and join us over the month of October as we chat with her weekly.

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Dwell #53: The Fruit of the Spirit - Vera & Natalie Oct 07, 2020

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
Galatians 5:22-23
New month. New verse! We're jumping in and talking all about the fruits of the Spirit today. This list can sometimes feel intimidating, can't it? But when the Spirit is at work in us, and we step out in faith to allow these fruits to grow, amazing things can happen.
We can't wait to see what God's going to do in our lives this month as we dwell on Galatians 5:22-23 together. Listen along today and ask the Lord to work on growing these fruits in your own heart.

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Dwell #52: Dwell Q&A - Vera & Natalie Sep 30, 2020

How do you choose which verse to memorize?
How did you come up with that design?
Can I get past designs?
You guys are curious about Dwell, and we love it! We're taking a little break from our normal podcast today so we can spend some time answering a few of your Dwell questions! Still have more you want to know? Feel free to email us any time! dwell@dwelldifferently.com.

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Dwell #51: Powerful Light - Vera & Natalie Sep 24, 2020

You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden (Matt 5:14)
What a month it has been! Dwelling on this verse has been good for our souls. Today, Vera & Natalie wrap up some final thoughts on what it means to be the light of the world. Light is so POWERFUL! No amount of darkness can ever overcome it! Isn't that encouraging!?
Thanks so much for tuning in today. Enjoy the recap, Natalie's brief singing debut, and also a little chatter about our favorite 90's boy bands. Team BSB? Team NKOTB? Either way- this episode is for you!
More about our September guest, Jamie Ivey:
Her latest book - You Be You
Podcasts she hosts - The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivey & On The Other Side
Instagram - @jamieivey

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Dwell #50: Crippling Comparison - Jamie Ivey Sep 16, 2020

You are the light of the world. A town on a hill cannot be hidden (Matt 5:14)
We don't know about you guys, but we have LOVED memorizing this verse and talking about it with Jamie Ivey this month! During our last chat with Jamie, we are taking a look at how comparison and discontentment can impact our ability to be a light in our world. Jamie shares some great illustrations and tips with us to help us to overcome the temptation to fall into the comparison trap.
More About Jamie:
Her latest book - You Be You
Podcasts she hosts - The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivey & On The Other Side
Instagram - @jamieivey

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Dwell #49: Your Voice Matters - Jamie Ivey Sep 10, 2020

You are the light of the world. A town on a hill cannot be hidden (Matt 5:14)
Your voice matters. Your light matters. Whether you're home with little kids, running a major corporation, or anywhere in between, you have exactly what you need to shine your light to those around you. In our conversation with Jamie today, we put to rest the idea that hustle is what matters most, and we embrace the truth that God has given us each a specific calling and ability to use our light for Him.
More About Jamie:
Her latest book - You Be You
Podcasts she hosts - The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivey & On The Other Side
Instagram - @jamieivey

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Dwell #48: Shine Your Light - Jamie Ivey Sep 02, 2020

Pull up a chair, get cozy, and let us introduce you to our September guest, Jamie Ivey. You are going to LOVE hearing from our friend, Jamie, this month! She chose our verse for the month: You are the light of the world. A town on a hill cannot be hidden (Matt 5:14).
In today's episode, we talk about how we can use our gifts and passions to shine the light of Jesus in our sphere of influence. She's a wealth of wisdom and we are pumped to spend the month dwelling on this verse with her and with you!
More About Jamie:
Her latest book - You Be You
Podcasts she hosts - The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivey & On The Other Side
Instagram - @jamieivey

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Dwell #47: Seed Sized Faith - Lacey Rabalais Aug 27, 2020

A mustard seed is so small! But what if our faith sometimes feels even smaller?
If you've ever had those times of feeling like your faith is small, you are not alone. In our final chat with Lacey, we are talking about what it's like to struggle in our faith.
Thanks to Lacey Rabalais, the Homegrown Theologian, for chatting about Matthew 17:20b with us this month! Check out her website and enjoy the free resources she's provided for sharing Scripture with children.

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Dwell #46: What's Your Faith In? - Lacey Rabalais Aug 19, 2020

Today we dive deeper into our August verse -
Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.
-Matthew 17:20B
Have you ever wondered what this means? Natalie and Lacey spend some time discussing the context of our verse. Specifically, they talk about the importance of who we place our faith IN.
For more words of wisdom from Lacey, check out her website, Homegrown Theologian.

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Dwell #45: Starting Seeds - Lacey Rabalais Aug 13, 2020

In today's episode, we chat with Lacey Rabalais about the importance of sharing the Word with our kids from a very young age. As a mom of 2 littles, Lacey has learned a lot about this topic, and she even offers us some FREE resources to help us out. Whether you're a mom, a Sunday School teacher, a babysitter, or a neighbor to young kids - you will love hearing Lacey's tips and her heart for giving the Word to kids early on.
For more helpful information from Lacey, check out her website today!

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Dwell #44: Faith Like a Mustard Seed - Vera & Natalie Aug 05, 2020

Do you feel like your faith is small? Well, this episode is for you. Vera and Nat talk about what God requires. Vera says,
"Thankfully God is not requiring the perfect person, the perfect faith, the perfect whatever. He is asking us to come raw and give him what we have, even if it's as small as a mustard seed. And, I just love that. I can show up with that."
This episode is "so good".
T R U L Y // I // T E L L // Y O U // I F // Y O U // H A V E
F A I T H // A S // S M A L L // A S
A // M U S T A R D // S E E D ,
Y O U // C A N // S A Y // T O // T H I S // M O U N T A I N ,
" M O V E // F R O M // H E R E // T O // T H E R E , "
A N D // I T // W I L L // M O V E .
N O T H I N G // W I L L // B E
I M P O S S I B L E // F O R // Y O U .

M A T T 1 7 : 2 0 b

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Dwell #43: Freedom Stories - Sara Jaeger Jul 30, 2020

Freedom Stories.
This month we've been telling our freedom stories. And, this last installment is soooooo good:
Meet Sara! She is our customer service gal. We absolutely love her, and if you've ever had a question or concern, you probably get a sense of why we love her so much. Her love for Jesus is just evident, and she lives out her faith in serving our members!
On the podcast this week, she shares her story of how God stepped in to her life. She went from thinking Christianity was weird, to thinking it was too good to be true, to actually taking that first step of faith. It's truly inspiring to hear. We know you will be blessed by it!
So if the son sets you free, you will be free indeed. (John 8:36)

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Dwell #42: Freedom Stories - Natalie Abbott Jul 22, 2020

So if the son sets you free, you will be free indeed. (John 8:36)
This month we're celebrating our freedom in Christ by telling our stories. On this episode, hear about the amazing work of Jesus in the life of one of Dwell's Co-founders, Natalie Abbott. She spent almost two years searching for God before she came to a crisis of faith saying, "Either that book (the Bible) is true and completely worthy of my life, or I'm gonna burn it."
Normally, Natalie hosts the show, but this week our other Co-founder, Vera Schmitz, does the interviewing. It's a fun and truly inspiring episode.

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Dwell #41: Freedom Stories - Melody Sullivan Jul 16, 2020

FREEDOM STORIES.
On our podcast this month we're sharing our freedom stories, and they are sooooo good! As a Dwell team, we have each seen God connect with us in some pretty amazing ways. That's why we're so committed to helping you connect with God too! So, tune in and take a listen this month to these awesome gals!
This week we get to hear from Melody Sullivan. She's the lovely face behind most of the comments and DMs you get from us on our Insta/FB accounts. She also does a host of other things! We love her and can't wait for you to hear her story.

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Dwell #40: Freedom Stories - Vera Schmitz Jul 08, 2020

FREEDOM STORIES.
This month we're telling our freedom stories. Every Christian has a story of how Jesus set her free. And, each of the amazing women of Dwell has a compelling story of how Jesus set her free.
So, listen along on our podcast this week to hear Dwell's Co-founder, Vera Schmitz, share her freedom story.

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Dwell #39 - Walk in Freedom - Vera & Natalie Jul 01, 2020

Oh this episode! It is such a good real conversation between sisters (Vera & Nat). They break down this month's verse about freedom in Christ.
Here are some of the questions they tackle:

What exactly does it mean to be set free?
What are we set free from?
How can we live more free lives on the daily?
How can we share the freedom we have with others?

It's some good stuff based on this goooood verse:
S o // i f // t h e // S o n
s e t s // y o u
F R E E ,
y o u // w i l l // b e
F R E E I N D E E D .
J o h n 8 : 3 6

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Dwell #38: Resist The Resistance - Glenna Marshall Jun 24, 2020

In this episode, Glenna Marshall about connecting with God when we don't feel like it. She encourages us to persevere even when we feel resistant to spending time in God's word. She encourages us to apply the promise we find in our verse this month, that when we dwell with God, we will find rest in him.
w h o e v e r // d w e l l s
i n // t h e // s h e l t e r
o f // t h e // M o s t // h i g h
w i l l // r e s t // i n // t h e
s h a d o w // o f // t h e
A L M I G H T Y
- Psalm 91:1
To learn more about Glenna, read her blog, and check out her books, visit her website : GlennaMarshall.com or, find her on Instagram @glennadmarshall.

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Dwell #37: Letting God Speak - Glenna Marshall Jun 18, 2020

Sometimes we use our Bibles like a Magic 8 Ball. We go to it with a question and we shake it up and want the perfect answer fro our situation.
This was Glenna Marshall's approach to the Bible as a young pastor's wife. But, through a season of infertility and sadness, she learned how to not just go to the Bible for answers but to meet with the God of the universe.
Glenna speaks to the practical aspects of dwelling with God, digging into his word and finding our joy and our meaning in his presence. She is a living testimony of the truth of God's promise in Psalm 91:1.
w h o e v e r // d w e l l s
i n // t h e // s h e l t e r
o f // t h e // M o s t // h i g h
w i l l // r e s t // i n // t h e
s h a d o w // o f // t h e
A L M I G H T Y
To learn more about Glenna, read her blog, and check out her books, visit her website : GlennaMarshall.com or, find her on Instagram @glennadmarshall.

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Dwell #36: Reflecting His Image - Glenna Marshall Jun 11, 2020

Today we have the joy of speaking with author, Glenna Marshall. If you listened to our previous podcast, you may recognize this name- Glenna's husband, William, joined us earlier to discuss their unique experience with racial unity. We are honored to get to hear more about that topic from Glenna. Listen in to hear our conversation about how Glenna is navigating significant life situations in hopes of reflecting God's image and it's various beautiful colors.
To learn more about Glenna and her books, visit her website : GlennaMarshall.com or, find her on Instagram @glennadmarshall.

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Dwell #35: A Right Response to Racism - Kenny King & William Marshall Jun 05, 2020

At Dwell, we are all so broken-hearted by the racism and injustice in our nation. So this week we're stepping away from our ordinary conversations about our verse to listen to our brothers, Kenny King & William Marshall. They are co-pastors working together as co-leaders, co-equals and friends in their beautiful gospel-centered diverse church. In this episode, they speak about Godly responses to racism for both white and black Christians. They talk about lament, listening, community, and how the good news of Jesus Christ must be both preached and practiced in regards to injustice.
It was just so good to sit under their wisdom, to listen to their perspectives, and to be challenged in our understanding of race and one another. Theirs is a message for all people, especially the people of God.
Last year Kenny & William joined their predominantly black and predominantly white churches to form one, unified diverse church. Doesn't that just make your heart sing!?!? It's such good news. They joined us on our February podcast episodes and spoke about their experiences, friendship, and following the Spirit in joining their churches. Go back and take a listen to find out more.
To read Kenny's blog posts go to: www.kennethlking.wordpress.com.
For more about their church visit them on Facebook (@gbfsikeston or the web (http://www.gbfsikeston.com).

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Dwell #34: Every Little Bit - Rebecca Welsh May 29, 2020

On this episode Rebecca Welsh, founder of the HALO Foundation, shares about how her entire organization runs on the shoulders of volunteers. And, EVERY LITTLE BIT matters.
Rebecca encourages us to live out our verse this month:
Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow. Isaiah 1:17
Find out more about Rebecca's work by following The HALO Foundation online: Instagram: @haloempowersyouth
Facebook: @HALOFoundation
Ways to get involved: haloworldwide.org

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Dwell #33: Overcoming Hurdles - Rebecca Welsh May 21, 2020

Feeling uninspired? Wondering what you can do to make a difference in the world? This episode is for you!
Rebecca Welsh has dedicated her life to making a positive impact on the lives of at-risk children around the world. Five years ago, she battled through a major health crisis. Instead of throwing in the towel, she came out on the other side with an increased passion for continuing the work that God has called her to do.
She is a living example of our verse this month:
Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow. Isaiah 1:17
Find out more about Rebecca's work by following The HALO Foundation online: Instagram: @haloempowersyouth
Facebook: @HALOFoundation
Ways to get involved: haloworldwide.org

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Dwell #32: Learn to Do Right - Rebecca Welsh May 14, 2020

In this Episode, Natalie interviews her sister, Rebecca Welsh. You heard it right, Natalie and Vera (Dwell's founders) have another sister, and she is a for-real, powerhouse! She founded The Halo Foundation, a non-profit that works to help one more child spend one less day alone. They serve kids who don't have a foundation of a family, from at risk and homeless youth in the U.S. to kids living in orphanages around the world.
Rebecca has always had a heart for the underdog. From the time she learned what the word orphan meant, God has been whispering to her to do the right thing and to take up their cause. Fifteen years ago, she answered that call and the wild ride has been 100% worth it! In this episode, she talks about the joys and the struggles of her work and what it looks like to respond to that persistent whisper.
Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow. Isaiah 1:17
Find out more about the HALO Foundation or get involved!
Instagram: @haloempowersyouth
Facebook: @HALOFoundation
Ways to get involved: haloworldwide.org

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Dwell #31: Sucker Punched by the Spirit - Vera Schmitz May 07, 2020

Have you ever been sucker punched by the Spirit? Vera has. She was minding her own beeswax on a regular Sunday morning when a girl from her church stood up and asked if anyone knew the owner of the local night club. She had an immediate realization that she was that person. And, she absolutely knew that the Holy Spirit was calling her to action.
We don't all get that kind of gut punch when God is calling us to do something. In fact, many times the Spirit speaks to us in a whisper and calls us gradually along. Either way, WE ARE ALL CALLED TO ACTION. This month's verse tells us exactly that.
l e a r n // t o // d o// r i g h t ;
s e e k // j u s t i c e.
d e f e n d // t h e // o p p r e s s e d.
t a k e // u p // t h e // c a u s e
o f // t h e // f a t h e r l e s s;
p l e a d // t h e // c a s e
o f // t h e // w i d o w.
i s a i a h // 1 . 1 7
Want to know whether GOD IS CALLING YOU TO ACTION or THE ENEMY IS CALLING YOU NAMES? Read Vera's latest blog post, "Conviction or Condemnation".
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Dwell #30: Consider Your Ways - Vera & Natalie Apr 29, 2020

This month we’ve been considering doubt. What better time than a pandemic to be forced to face those things that send us down the path of unbelief? On this episode, Natalie and Vera get real with you and discuss their own repetitive doubts, such as:
“God, what in the are you doing in all of this?” and
“How can I live out my calling right now?”
They talk about how God has both a plan and a calling for all of us IN THE MIDST of this pandemic. Our lives and our calling aren't on hold. They just look different than we expected.
Our April Verse is:
I do believe; help me overcome my unbelief! (Mark 9:24b)
FOLLOW THIS LINK TO READ THE BLOG THEY DISCUSS IN THIS EPISODE.

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Dwell #29: Facing Unbelief - Whitney Lowe Apr 22, 2020

If you've ever struggled to face your own unbelief and lean into what you really think is true about Jesus, today's episode is for you. The enemy loves to tell us that our struggle with unbelief is unique or damning to our faith- but that is not the truth! Whitney shares with us why she thinks our struggle with unbelief might often be a good thing. Listen in as we wrap up our chats with Whitney Lowe from Scribble Devos.
Learn more about Whitney at: www.scribbledevos.com & at @scribbledevos on Instagram.

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Dwell #28: Honest Unbelief - Whitney Lowe Apr 15, 2020

This week we get to have an honest conversation with Whitney Lowe about unbelief. She talks about how our faith isn't a finished product. We are constantly occupying a dual space of both faith and unbelief. And, we all need God to enable us to know him more and believe him more fully. Whitney shares about her own experience of overcoming an eating disorder and the challenge of believing God for each uncertain step of recovery. Her wisdom and her honesty is such an encouragement for us as we ask God in our own uncertain circumstances to increase our faith.
Our verse this month is, "I do believe; help me overcome my unbelief!" (Mark 9:24b).
Love Whitney, and want to find out more of her story & her perspective on God and life? Follow her at: www.scribbledevos.com & at @scribbledevos on Instagram.

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Dwell #27: Tying up the Loose Ends - Whitney Lowe Apr 08, 2020

Today we get to chat with Whitney Lowe, the creator of Scribble Devos. She shares how she started her ministry of beautiful daily devotionals on instagram. If you've seen her work, you might be surprised to hear her share that her educational background doesn't include graphic design! Instead, God took her on a winding journey with a lot of loose ends that she wasn't sure would ever make sense. But, God wove them all together beautifully through Scribble Devos. Her art and words inspire thousands daily to turn to Jesus and find their own loose ends tied up in him.
Listen to the end to find out one weird fact about Whitney and also why she hates weird facts!!!
Learn more about Whitney at: www.scribbledevos.com & at @scribbledevos on Instagram.

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Dwell #26: Battling Unbelief - Vera & Natalie Apr 02, 2020

Dwell Co-founders, Vera and Natalie, discuss some faith and unbelief in this episode. They talk about times that they have struggled with unbelief. They also talk strategies for dealing with doubts when they come. It is just some good practical stuff all going back to this month's verse from Mark 9:24b:
I do believe; help me overcome my unbelief!
Follow Dwell on Instagram and Facebook at @dwelldifferently for daily inspiration and to memorize our monthly verse with us.

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Dwell #25: Stability in Christ - Jillian Dolberry Mar 26, 2020

Sometimes in life, we try to pray the hard things away. We'd rather hold on to the illusion of stability that the world offers us instead of reaching for the true stability that Christ has secured for us. In this week's podcast, Jillian shares about how she's felt this tension in her own life.
Find out more about Jillian and her ministry : Even Here.

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Dwell #24: Help in our Grief - Jillian Dolberry Mar 18, 2020

Grief is tricky. It hits us in waves and at unexpected times. But no matter when those moments of sadness or anger pop up, our God is there to hold our hand and keep us steady. Jillian shares her experience with grief through the loss of her son and offers words of advice on how we can encourage and support the ones we love as they grieve.
This month's verse: For I am the LORD your God who takes hold of your right hand and says to you, Do not fear; I will help you. (Isaiah 14:13)
Find out more about Jillian and her ministry, Even Here, at:
https://even-here.com/ or follow her on instagram at @jilliandollberry and @even.here.

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Dwell #23: Help for Today - Jillian Dolberry Mar 11, 2020

This week Natalie chats with Jillian Dolberry about how God is with us even in unexpected circumstances. Jillian shares about how she met her husband, how counseling has positively impacted her life, and how God's Word has given her an anchor throughout her life. This episode is only the first of three where we get to hear more about Jillian and how this month's verse has proven true in her life.
For I am the LORD your God who takes hold of your right hand and says to you, Do not fear; I will help you. (Isaiah 14:13)
FUNNY PODCAST HIGHLIGHT: Listen starting at minute 7:10 to hear Jillian's hilariously embarrassing high school memory!
Find out more about Jillian and her ministry, Even Here, at:
https://even-here.com/ or follow her on instagram at @jilliandollberry and @even.here.

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Dwell #22: God, Help Us - Vera & Natalie Mar 04, 2020

Hear Vera Schmitz and Natalie Abbott, Dwell Co-founders, talk about this month's verse:
For I am the LORD your God who takes hold of your right hand and says to you, Do not fear; I will help you. (Isaiah 14:13)
They talk about how God's help isn't just for the big things we're dealing with, but for our everyday situations. They share about the ways God is specifically meeting them and helping them through their daily lives. And, they talk about the difference it makes to operate out of a place of abundance instead of a place of scarcity. God wants us to operate out of his abundance in our daily lives, and this podcast is a great reminder of how we can do just that.

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Dwell #21: Partners in the Gospel - Kenny & William Feb 26, 2020

Kenny King and William Marshall co-pastor Grace Bible Fellowship in Sikeston, Missouri. "Co... WHAT???" you say. You heard it right. They are Co-Pastors. Instead of a Senior Pastor and an Associate Pastor, this church has two equal Co-Pastors. It's a relationship of equality in leadership, preaching, decision making... all of it.
This month's memory verse, Romans 12:10, is foundational to the co-pastor model. It tells us that we should honor and love others above ourselves. Kenny and William live this verse out daily in their roles as Co-Pastors. They talk about what it means to lean on each other and defer to one another all things. They share the Biblical basis for this kind of church model. And, they share the ins and outs of how co-pastoring works, sacrifices they have made, and the value of working together as fellow brothers in their church.
I was truly inspired by how the gospel is being lived out practically in their friendship. And, I'm thankful for their example of deference and love in leadership. I hope you will be too.

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Dwell #20: Unity, Not Uniformity - Kenny & William Feb 19, 2020

In this episode of the Dwell Podcast we get to talk church. And, oh is it good. Our verse from Romans 12:10 is written to the church to encourage us to be devoted to one another and to love one another as a group of believers. So, I couldn't be more excited to have two co-pastors on the show to discuss what that kind of love looks like in their church. William Marshall and Kenny King are the Co-pastors of Grace Bible Fellowship in Sikeston, Missouri.
Their church is very unique. What was once two different churches, one primarily black and one primarily white, is now one unified church. Kenny and William share about the mission, the joys, the unity, and the difficulties of their new church. We talk about how the Gospel is the foundation for every believer, and the foundation of their church. They share about how Christ's love and sacrifice is what should motivate us to love and sacrifice for one another, despite differences. And, they share about how God's kingdom is on display in their worship services through the diversity of their fellowship. After our talk I just want to go to their church, meet their people, and worship with them.
If you'd like to find out more about their church or visit them on a Sunday, follow them on Facebook at @GBFSikeson.

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Dwell #19: Founded on Friendship - Kenny & William Feb 12, 2020

Meet Kenny King and William Marshall, Co-pastors of Grace Bible Fellowship in Sikeston, Missouri. When I heard their story, I was floored, and couldn't wait talk with them. They were both Senior Pastors in the same town at two different churches, one primarily black and the other primarily white. When they met and discovered their shared beliefs about the gospel and their passion for racial reconciliation, they became fast friends. Through that friendship, they eventually merged their two separate churches into one united, diverse church.
In this episode, we get to hear the story of how they met, why they decided to merge their churches, and the unique opportunity God has given them to display the power of the gospel through their church. Their church is a great example of this month's verse, "Be devoted to one another in love. Honor one another above yourselves." (Romans 12:10).
Find out more about them on their FB page: @GBFSikeston

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Dwell #18: Others First - Vera & Natalie Feb 05, 2020

This week Vera and I talk about the themes in Romans 12:10. It says, "Be devoted to one another in love. Honor one another above yourselves." It seems pretty simple on the surface, but it's a sincerely difficult verse to live out in our daily lives. Think about it. It's tough to consider others before ourselves, isn't it? We talk about how we both struggle to do this. And, we talk about practical things like jealousy and celebrating other's successes. We discuss what it means to honor someone else, and how we tend to want to hoard honor instead of giving it away. And, we talk about how the context of this verse really sheds light on what should motivate our love of others. Like always, there's a lot of laughter and fun mixed in.Thanks for listening!

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Dwell # 17: The Next Small Step - Polly Conner Jan 29, 2020

Sure, we might say that we want to find satisfaction in Christ, but what does that really look like? In this episode, Polly Conner shares some really practical insights into how WE CAN TAKE THE NEXT SMALL STEP towards finding true joy in Jesus.
Here are some of the things we discuss:
>>> The difference between our "thinking brain" and our "feeling brain".
>>> The importance of talking to ourselves versus listening to ourselves.
>>> Her own tendency to believe lies about what will make her happy.
>>> How following Jesus looks different in our different seasons of life.
>>> Our need to pursue the things that stir our affections for Jesus.
>>> Possible "next steps" to growing closer to God.
Hope you're encouraged by our conversation. It was a great encouragement to me!
MORE ABOUT POLLY:
Polly Conner is the Co-founder of Thriving Home, a company committed to helping women thrive at home. Check out this link for a special Thriving Home page just for Dwell listeners. You'll find fun recommendations, cooking freebies and a link to their newly released cookbook, From Freezer to Cooker.

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Dwell #16: Truly Satisfied - Polly Conner Jan 23, 2020

In this episode we continue our conversation with Polly Conner, a mom, a writer, Co-founder of Thriving Home, and a pastor's wife. It is just such a good episode! I learned so much that I just can't help but say...
"PREACH ON, Preacher's Wife!"
She really dives into this this idea of satisfaction, talking about what it means and how it should look (not just like warm fuzzies). She talks about the deeper peace that comes from finding our contentment in Jesus instead of in our circumstances, and how we're all tempted to try to find our happiness in people or things that can never truly satisfy us. We talk about how we tend to think, "If I could just get this next thing, or make it through this hard season, then I will be happy." But, the truth is, we can be content right now if we are seeking it in the right place. I hope you give it a listen. It's such a practical and insightful conversation.
FIND OUT MORE ABOUT POLLY by going to the Thriving Home Website. Or follow @thrivinghome & @pollyconner on FB and Insta. She and Co-founder, Rachel Tiemeyer, have recently published another fantastic cookbook called From Freezer to Cooker.

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Dwell #15: Spinning Plates - Polly Conner Jan 15, 2020

Do you feel like your constantly trying to keep all the plates spinning??? And, just getting dinner on those plates feels like a really tall order?
Well, in this episode you're going to hear from Polly Conner. She and her friend, Rachel Tiemeyer, founded Thriving Home, a company dedicated to encouraging and equipping women to thrive. In this episode, she shares about all the different plates she has spinning, from mom, to pastor's wife to business owner, to blogger... This girl has a lot going on. But, you'll discover from this conversation and the ones that follow, that she is dedicated to finding her ultimate grounding and satisfaction in Jesus.
In this episode, we just dip our toes in the water of this month's Dwell verse: Satisfy us in the morning with your unfailing love, that we may sing for joy and be glad all our days (Ps. 90:14). But, you will want to keep listening in the coming two episodes as we really dive in to the satisfaction only God can give us and practical ways to go deep.
Check out this link for a special Thriving Home page just for Dwell listeners. You'll find fun recommendations, cooking freebies and a link to their newly released cookbook, From Freezer to Cooker.

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Dwell #14: 2019 Recap With Vera & Nat Jan 06, 2020

Get the skinny on Vera and Natalie's favorite 2019 verses. Hear how they were blown away by what God did in 2019. And hear about what they are excited for in 2020!

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Dwell #13: Good Routines - Vera & Natalie Jan 02, 2020

In this episode Vera and Natalie discuss the routines that help them seek God each and every day.
S A T I S F Y U S
in the morning
with your
unfailing L O V E,
that we may
S I N G for J O Y
& be G L A D
all our days.
(Psalm 90:14)

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Dwell #12: Trusting When It's Hard - Hailey Nogler Dec 26, 2019

Hailey Nogler has been down some difficult roads. Most recently, she has spent the last couple of years fighting cancer in her daughter, Karlee. In this episode, she shares what trusting God with the battle really looks like.She's honest and real, and it isn't all perfect. She talks about how fear and anxiety aren't the same thing as distrust or lack of hope. She shares about the importance of community, and how she's been encouraged along the journey by prayers, messages, and even cups of coffee. You will learn a lot about how to love on those who are suffering, and find Hailey's upbeat honesty really refreshing.
You can find out more about Hailey by following her at @haileynogler on Insta & FB. And, you can keep up with how Karlee is doing, on their FB page, Team Karlee, Leukemia Warrior and by searching #teamkarlee.

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Dwell #11: Peace through the Storm - Hailey Nogler Dec 17, 2019

In this episode, hear Hailey Nogler relate this month's verse from Ephesians 2:17 about the PEACE of JESUS to her own life. She shares about how that peace has been an anchor in the storm of her daughter, Karlee's, diagnosis and continued battle with leukemia.

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Dwell #10: Brought Near - Hailey Nogler Dec 10, 2019

I know this episode is a bit longer... but you won't be able to stop listening, it is just soooo good. Hailey Nogler shares about how she was far off from God and how she "didn't know what she didn't, know". But, God brought her near and opened her eyes to the peace of Jesus. I know you'll be encouraged so much by her story. She's simultaneously fun and upbeat while giving us the real, honest truth. You're gonna love her.

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Dwell #9: Break it Down - Vera & Natalie Dec 03, 2019

Vera Schmitz and Natalie Abbott (sisters, friends, & Dwell Co-founders) meet here on the first episode of every month to talk about Dwell's verse of the month.
On this episode, they talk about the concept of peace from Ephesians 2:17. They discuss what it means to have peace, why it matters, and how this concept is impacting them this season. They really have too much fun on this episode. Natalie breaks out into ridiculous song twice! Who even knows why??? Maybe listen just for that...

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Dwell #8: Everyday Jesus at Home - Darrell Johnson Nov 27, 2019

Darrell Johnson, founder of Cross Over Hoops ministry to young basketball players, shares about what his faith looks like at home. He emphasizes the importance of shaping our kids' worldviews by simply living out our faith in everyday, normal ways. He encourages us to be people living in homes where conversations about Jesus are just part our regular habits.

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Dwell #7: Responding to God's Call - Darrell Johnson Nov 20, 2019

In this episode we are talking about the Psalm 25:4, "Show me your ways, LORD, teach me your path."
Darrell Johnson, founder of Crossover Hoops, shares about his calling to reach out with the gospel to fellow basketball players. He shares how his calling was born out of a love for the sport, the desire to coach players, and a natural mentorship that developed with his players.

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Dwell #6: What Matters Most - Darrell Johnson Nov 13, 2019

Meet Darrell Johnson, Founder of Crossover Hoops, a ministry to basketball players of all ages.
In this episode, we discuss our verse from Psalm 25:4, "Show me your ways, LORD, teach me your paths." Darrell shares about how two life-threatening experiences caused him to really reconsider his life and what matters most.

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Dwell #5: Waiting For God - Vera & Natalie Nov 05, 2019

Our verse this month is about following God's path for our lives. But, sometimes following God involves WAITING. And, when we wait we sometimes start to wonder if we are still on the right path, or whether we were called to something different. We wonder why it's taking so long.
In this episode Vera Schmitz and Natalie Abbott talk about the struggle of waiting, and how they personally have seen God show up and confirm his calling in specific ways. Vera shares about her and her husband's call to adopt, and the long process of waiting. She tells about how God showed up at just the perfect time to confirm his call on their lives.

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Dwell #4: Apply the Word - Lauren McAfee Oct 23, 2019

In this episode, Lauren McAfee talks about how we can apply God's Word in our daily lives. She challenges us to understand the bible not just intellectually but to take it to heart. She encourages us to engage in our study of scripture with others in the local church. She also shares about how her recent adoption experience has impacted her faith.

Find out more about Lauren on her website: www.laurenamcafee.com
Or follow her on Instagram at: @laurenamcafee

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Dwell #3: The Long View of Life - Lauren McAfee Oct 16, 2019

Lauren McAfee shares about the value of having an eternal perspective in how we live our lives. She shares about her own family’s legacy of faith, going all the way back to her Great-grandmother, who’s eternal perspective about the word of God shaped her family for generations. She also shares about how the life of another student in middle school challenged her to start taking the bible seriously in her own life. And finally, she talks about how the Bible meets us in every season of life.
Find out more about Lauren on her website: www.laurenamcafee.com
Or follow her on Instagram at: @laurenamcafee

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Dwell #2: The Back Story - Lauren McAfee Oct 09, 2019

On this episode we get to hear from Lauren McAfee. She is a woman of many talents and interests. You can find out more about her, read articles she’s published, and find links to books she’s authored on her website, www.laurenamcafee.com. But, in this episode we get to just chat with her. And let me just say, you are going to love her. She shares about growing up, how she met her husband, and how they survived writing a book together without a double homicide! Seriously though, it's such fun. So, sit back and enjoy.

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Dwell #1: Vera Schmitz, Why Dwell? Oct 02, 2019

Meet Vera Schmitz, my sister, friend, and fellow Dwell Co-founder. We get to hear from her about her Olympic dreams, how Dwell began, and her vision for Dwell going forward. And, stick around for the end, where we discuss our most ridiculous childhood nicknames!

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