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    Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl

    Drink Beer, Think Beer is a weekly conversation with brewers, growers, and other brewing industry professionals that explores the art, culture, and business of craft beer. Hosted by John Holl and recorded on location, this podcast gets to the bottom of every pint and offers insight into the dynamic world of beer.

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    From the Brewhouse to the C-Suite: The Leadership Challenge Oct 15, 2025
    Show notes

    Making great beer is one challenge; running a successful brewery is another. As today’s industry faces tighter margins, shifting consumer trends, and economic uncertainty, many brewers find themselves taking on new roles as managers and executives.

    Our panel today – moderated by Andy Crouch from Schilling’s Oktoberfest - includes decision makers who have run brewhouses and have transitioned to running their businesses, folks who have worked for others and on their own, and have managed all parts of these operations.

    They share lessons on leadership, strategy, and the business realities of brewing today.


    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.


    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.

    Host: Andy Crouch

    Guests: Sean Lawson, Basil Lee, Roy Milner, Paul Sayler

    Sponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish Head

    Tags: Pours, Business, Octoberfest, Work

    Photo: Andy Crouch


    Selling Lager in the Age of Moderation Oct 08, 2025
    Show notes

    The Year of the Lager has been predicted for decades, and it is finally coming true. And the timing couldn’t be better. Drinking habits continue to shift and younger audiences are increasingly embracing moderation or even alcohol abstinence. The craft beer industry finds itself at a crossroads. After decades of solid and sometimes explosive growth, craft beer faces both a challenge and an opportunity.


    Lager, with its approachable strength and depth of flavor, is uniquely positioned to thrive in this environment. And while craft lager comprises a small fraction of the beer market, it has never been more popular or relevant. Today we’re going to explore how to reframe and sell lager for audiences who value balance, flavor, and authenticity, in a moment when many aren’t reaching for a pint.


    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.


    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.

    Host: Andy Crouch

    Guests: Todd DiMatteo, Blake Tyres, Greg Engert

    Sponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish Head

    Tags: Pours, Lager, Octoberfest, Pilsner

    Photo: Andy Crouch


    Where to Drink Beer in Denver (2025 Great American Beer Preview) Oct 01, 2025
    Show notes

    It’s just about that time of year again when the beer faithful travel to Denver for the Great American Beer Festival. But truth be told, there’s so much do to in the Mile High City that even if you don’t go to the convention center there’s endless beer fun to be had. A trio of local experts - Jonathan Shikes of the Denver Post, Tristan Chan of Porch Drinking, and Dustin Craft of Malteurop joins host John Holl to break down where you should go to eat, drink, and be merry.


    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.


    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.

    Host: John Holl

    Guests: Tristan Chan, Dustin Craft, Jonathan Shikes

    Sponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish Head

    Tags: Pours, Lager, Denver, Bierstadt, Great American Beer Festival

    Photo: John Holl


    Neil Witte Wants You to Think About Beer Pours Sep 24, 2025
    Show notes

    Neil Witte wants you to start thinking about how your beer is poured. The Master Cicerone, brewery consultant, educator, and draft technician has long been advocating for clean lines and proper service, but as of late he has been thinking about how beer is presented, what that does for flavor and the customer experience. After listening to this conversation, you’re going to give the man what he wants.

    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.


    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.

    Host: John Holl

    Guest: Neil Witte

    Sponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish Head

    Tags: Pours, Foam, Glassware, Beer, Tradition, Innovation

    Photo: John Holl


    The Importance of the Beer Culture Center Sep 17, 2025
    Show notes

    The Beer Culture Center was founded by Liz Garibay, a long-time museum professional. When she sketched it out in 2013 she wanted it to be a place that would look at history and society through the lens of drinking. The idea came to life and has now presented hundreds exhibits and events around the country. It’s important and necessary work, one everyone in the industry should be supporting. The center also hosts the annual Beer Culture Summit, a multi-day, multi-disciplinary experience that tells the story of beer, its people, its history, and its importance. As the center expands, it recently announced its first Beer History Studies Fellow, Onteya Zachary. She will share insight into her research and more.

    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.


    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.

    Host: John Holl

    Guests: Liz Garibay, Onteya Zachary

    Sponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish Head

    Tags: Chicago, Beer Culture Center, History

    Photo:


    Making the Long Drive for Fresh Hops: Offset Bier Focuses on Community and Flavor Sep 10, 2025
    Show notes

    In Park City, Utah, Offset Bier is doing big things. In a state with laws that can make it tough to be a brewer, Conor Brown, the brewery founder, is doing what he can to bring fresh flavorful beer to the people all while creating a welcoming community space. He’s currently working to build out the brewery footprint, bringing in new equipment and adding more space, and at this time of year he finds the time to make frequent trips to Idaho where he loads up on fresh hops to bring back to the brewery for quick turnaround brew days. It's the kind of commitment that bodes well for the future of craft beer.

    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.


    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.

    Host: John Holl

    Guest: Conor Brown

    Sponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish Head

    Tags: Utah, IPA, Hops, Growth, Community

    Photo: Aaron Grove


    Reassessing a Career in Brewing Sep 03, 2025
    Show notes

    We’re at a curious point in American brewing. Some talented brewers are choosing to walk away from a career they have loved. It’s not a bad thing, just part of the evolution. This week Derek Gallanosa shares his journey.

    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.


    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.


    The 5th Ingredient
    If you're running a brewery owner or operator, Beer30 by The 5th Ingredient is the ultimate command center. The most powerful brewery management software on the market, Beer30 handles the entire brewing workflow, from recipe development to production. Once your beer is brewed and ready, it seamlessly manages your inventory and streamlines your brewery's sales and distribution--all in the same easy-to-use platform. Beer30 lets you get back to the beer and the people that made you fall in love with this industry in the first place. And no other brewery management software gives you the ability to truly master your business and get the insights that you need to thrive in an increasingly competitive industry. Visit the5thingredient.com/AllAboutBeer today to learn more and receive 3 free months of Beer30.

    Host: John Holl

    Guest: Derek Gallanosa

    Sponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, The 5th Ingredient, Dogfish Head

    Tags: San Diego, Brewing, Job

    Photo: Matt Furman, Furman Photography


    Barrel pH1 Arrives at Off Color Brewing Aug 27, 2025
    Show notes

    We’re talking about barrels, branding, and business with John Laffler of Off Color Brewing. This is insight from the Chicago brewer that you’re not going to want to miss.


    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.


    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.


    The 5th Ingredient
    If you're running a brewery owner or operator, Beer30 by The 5th Ingredient is the ultimate command center. The most powerful brewery management software on the market, Beer30 handles the entire brewing workflow, from recipe development to production. Once your beer is brewed and ready, it seamlessly manages your inventory and streamlines your brewery's sales and distribution--all in the same easy-to-use platform. Beer30 lets you get back to the beer and the people that made you fall in love with this industry in the first place. And no other brewery management software gives you the ability to truly master your business and get the insights that you need to thrive in an increasingly competitive industry. Visit the5thingredient.com/AllAboutBeer today to learn more and receive 3 free months of Beer30.

    Host: John Holl

    Guest: John Laffler

    Sponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, The 5th Ingredient, Dogfish Head

    Tags: History, Ales, Barrels, New Belgium, Chicago

    Photo: Dynasty Brewing


    What Brewing Historical Beers Tells Us About Modern Brewing Aug 20, 2025
    Show notes

    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.


    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.


    The 5th Ingredient
    If you're running a brewery owner or operator, Beer30 by The 5th Ingredient is the ultimate command center. The most powerful brewery management software on the market, Beer30 handles the entire brewing workflow, from recipe development to production. Once your beer is brewed and ready, it seamlessly manages your inventory and streamlines your brewery's sales and distribution--all in the same easy-to-use platform. Beer30 lets you get back to the beer and the people that made you fall in love with this industry in the first place. And no other brewery management software gives you the ability to truly master your business and get the insights that you need to thrive in an increasingly competitive industry. Visit the5thingredient.com/AllAboutBeer today to learn more and receive 3 free months of Beer30.

    Host: John Holl

    Guest: Favio Garcia, Michael Stein, Peter Jones

    Sponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, The 5th Ingredient, Dogfish Head

    Tags: History, Lager, Ale

    Photo: Dynasty Brewing


    Drinking Beer for a Good Cause Aug 13, 2025
    Show notes

    Drinking Beer can do good for the world. Rick Lyke of Pints for Prostates is here to talk about his organization and the evolution of the Denver Rare Beer Tasting.


    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.


    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.


    The 5th Ingredient
    If you're running a brewery owner or operator, Beer30 by The 5th Ingredient is the ultimate command center. The most powerful brewery management software on the market, Beer30 handles the entire brewing workflow, from recipe development to production. Once your beer is brewed and ready, it seamlessly manages your inventory and streamlines your brewery's sales and distribution--all in the same easy-to-use platform. Beer30 lets you get back to the beer and the people that made you fall in love with this industry in the first place. And no other brewery management software gives you the ability to truly master your business and get the insights that you need to thrive in an increasingly competitive industry. Visit the5thingredient.com/AllAboutBeer today to learn more and receive 3 free months of Beer30.

    Host: John Holl

    Guest: Rick Lyke

    Sponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, The 5th Ingredient, Dogfish Head

    Tags: Hops, Denver, Tasting, Rare Beer, Charity

    Photo: John Holl


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