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    DRAMA. with Connor & Dylan MacDowell

    Drama! Sit down with resident dramatics, Connor MacDowell & Dylan MacDowell, as they explore theatre, entertainment, pop culture, and the vibrance of love and life in New York City. Joined weekly by thrilling special guests, they have intimately casual conversations about the dramatic journey that brought them here. Oh that’s a gag, honey! Say no more… it’s DRAMA.

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    "Curly Broad(way)" with Jordan Tyson Jul 02, 2025
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    Dylan and Connor are joined by Jordan Tyson (Gypsy, The Notebook). Here she is, pod. Here she is, WORLD! During a heat wave and New York Pride, the twins sat down with Broadway’s Jordan Tyson, a performer as generous and kind as she is talented. It’s Dainty June herself, y’all! But first: a return to the Boat (OG listeners are in for a treat). Hear all about Jordan’s experience playing June in Gypsy, sharing the stage with Audra McDonald, Danny Burstein, Lesli Margherita, and Joy Woods, and how she ended up in this hit show. We of course have to gush over Audra and her massive impact, dating way back to “Stars & The Moon” watch sessions and solo album tracks. Jordan reflects on her beautiful experience in The Notebook, where she found a family for life, including her mentor Maryann Plunkett and her bestie John Cardoza. Don’t worry, we GO THERE on musical theatre earworm sensation “If This Is Love.” Jordan shares what playing Younger Allie taught her and how those lessons have carried her into this next era of life, as well as a little about her upcoming EP. This chat is true girlie time! Settle in and prepare to do kicks, flips, and tricks.Follow Jordan on Instagram & TiktokFollow DRAMA. on Twitter & Instagram & TiktokFollow Connor MacDowell on Twitter & InstagramFollow Dylan MacDowell on Twitter & InstagramSubscribe to our show on iHeartRadio Broadway! Support the podcast by subscribing to DRAMA+, which also includes bonus episodes, Instagram Close Friends content, and more!


    “You’re Doing Fine, Kid” with Graham Phillips Jun 25, 2025
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    Connor and Dylan are joined by Graham Phillips (Little Shop of Horrors, 13). Suddenly, Graham y’all! The twins are gagged to have this star of stage and screen on the podcast to honor his highly anticipated return to the New York stage. But first, the boys gag over Orville Peck and Eva Noblezada in Cabaret at the Kit Kat Club. Graham is currently starring as Seymour in Little Shop of Horrors, alongside longtime friend and castmate Liz Gillies. From the workshops of 13 to the streets of Skid Row, they’re finally reunited onstage. Graham discusses what it’s been like joining the show, spills tea on the roles-that-almost-were over the years, and a possible clowning storyline. We ask about highlights from The Good Wife (and what he would’ve done on The Good Fight!), memories from Riverdale, and his film studio that he runs with his brother: Phillips Pictures. Chemistry reads with Zachary Quinto, wrap parties with Calista Flockhart and Harrison Ford, and late night karaoke sessions with Liz Gillies and 13 alums are allllll mentioned. Stick around to find out what Graham’s (and Seymour Krelborn’s) enneagram type is! Catch Graham in Little Shop of Horrors through July 27th only.Follow Graham on InstagramFollow DRAMA. on Twitter & Instagram & TiktokFollow Connor MacDowell on Twitter & InstagramFollow Dylan MacDowell on Twitter & InstagramSubscribe to our show on iHeartRadio Broadway! Support the podcast by subscribing to DRAMA+, which also includes bonus episodes, Instagram Close Friends content, and more!


    “Queen of the Red Hot Mamas” with Robyn Hurder Jun 18, 2025
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    Connor and Dylan are joined by the one, the only, THE bombshell: Robyn Hurder (Smash, Moulin Rouge! The Musical). The first ever 3x guest on the pod, y’all! With only one week left in SMASH on Broadway’s too-short run, Robyn joins the twins to mention it ALL. We talk playing the stage version of Ivy Lynn, how Robyn stays healthy and positive as one of Broadway’s triple threat leading ladies, and what her favorite onstage moments and songs are. Take notes as this Tony nominee spills wisdom on workplace mentality, developing new musicals, and why her social media presence has changed… and will change again. By the way, Susan Stroman is the GOAT. Robyn also catches the twins up on life after A Beautiful Noise, which included finally leading Chicago on Broadway as Velma Kelly. Iconic co-stars included Ariana Madix, Max Von Essen, Orfeh, and Max Clayton. HELLO. Oh, and Robyn also teases a little nugget about what’s coming after SMASH. The children are going to GAG. Jamie Lloyd’s Evita boxer shorts, The Traitors, and gay pride top off this amazing reunion chat. There’s a reason this queen has been back to the podcast three times. You’re going to fall even more in love with her today. See SMASH on Broadway before it’s too late! Fade in on a pod…Follow Robyn on InstagramFollow DRAMA. on Twitter & Instagram & TiktokFollow Connor MacDowell on Twitter & InstagramFollow Dylan MacDowell on Twitter & InstagramSubscribe to our show on iHeartRadio Broadway!Support the podcast by subscribing to DRAMA+, which also includes bonus episodes, Instagram Close Friends content, and more!


    “It Happened, Andrew!” with Connor & Dylan MacDowell Jun 11, 2025
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    What happened? IT happened! The twins are talking this week to break down the 78th Annual Tony Awards, hosted by Cynthia Erivo. The highs, lows, glitz, glamour, history-making wins, snubs, and favorite moments are all on the table. The most dramatic, debated, and delicious Best Lead Actress in a Musical race finally has a winner… what did we think? Connor has a hot take on a major category that left Dylan stunned. From Oh, Mary! happiness to balcony bits, there’s an endless array of topics to devour. Audra McDonald’s Mama Rose and Nicole Scherzinger’s Norma Desmond took the stage for solo moments for the history books, while history literally had its eyes on the 10th anniversary reunion performance with the original Broadway cast of Hamilton. Moments from Maybe Happy Ending, Death Becomes Her, Real Women Have Curves, Operation Mincemeat, and MORE are broken down. Was something missing? What are we dreaming of next year? Is Pirate Ramin Karimloo single? Where, oh Where do I get this Tony? Listen now and join Drama+, our bonus content platform at patreon.com/thedramapodcast, for extra episodes and even more drama!
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    “Breathy Altos” with Betty Who Jun 04, 2025
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    Dylan and Connor are joined by Betty Who (Recording Artist, Hadestown). Now there’s fire burning in the valley, y’all… THE Betty Who joins the twins for the 300th episode of DRAMA. Ahead of the “Out of the Darkness” tour, Betty is here to talk all things new: music, show, and era. But not just an era of artistry, it’s a new era of life that they’re feeling supercharged for. Leave those Pride flags out and get ready to SWEAT in this #pride-friendly summer tour! Betty dives into the highs and lows of being in Hadestown on Broadway for six months as Persephone. We cover favorite offstage moments, as well as memories from being in the building with Solea Pfeiffer, Jordan Fisher, Philip Boykin, and Lillias White. Betty also teases a little bit about the original musical she’s writing before the boys ask about their favorite Betty Who tracks, bouncing from each album and getting the tea from the artist directly. “Just Thought You Should Know,” “Wanna Be”, and “High Society” are discussed at length, along with Audra McDonald’s thrilling performance in Gypsy on Broadway. Stick around for some doses of drama and absolutely incredible conversation between the twins and Betty Who. Stream “Run!” and “Sweat” and get your ticket to the Out of the Darkness tour this summer. It’s Betty Who season, y’all!Follow Betty on Instagram & TiktokFollow DRAMA. on Twitter & Instagram & TiktokFollow Connor MacDowell on Twitter & InstagramFollow Dylan MacDowell on Twitter & InstagramSubscribe to our show on iHeartRadio Broadway!Support the podcast by subscribing to DRAMA+, which also includes bonus episodes, Instagram Close Friends content, and more!


    “Millennial Nostalgia” with Kyle Selig May 28, 2025
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    Connor and Dylan are joined by Kyle Selig (Stephen Sondheim’s Old Friends, Mean Girls). Summer is upon us, and the twins are excited to welcome the dreamy and delightful Kyle Selig for his long-awaited episode of DRAMA. He brings his sunny personality and sense of humor to the pod for an amazing chat, almost like we’re… old friends. Speaking of “Old Friends,” we chat about the beautiful Broadway production that Kyle is part of alongside Bernadette Peters, Lea Salonga, and friend of the pod Beth Leavel, as he sings the “Sondheim Tenor Sampler Platter.” Naturally, this trio gushes over Kyle’s wife, Erika Henningsen (now starring in Just in Time), and recounts moments in their love story from Mean Girls to their wedding day. The conversation includes stories about Water for Elephants, Los Angeles living, and superstar Grey Henson. We reflect on The Goofy Movie, Welcome to Flatch, and Aaron Tveit and Gavin Creel’s impact on a young Kyle. Stick around for Thunderbolts* and Miss Flo (yes gawd!), plus many doses of DRAMA. and the birth of a beautiful friendship among these millennial men. See Kyle in Stephen Sondheim’s Old Friends through June 29th!
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    "There's the Laugh Track" with Tatianna Córdoba May 21, 2025
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    Dylan and Connor are joined by Tatianna Córdoba (Real Women Have Curves). Y’all, we are SO obsessed with this breakout star from Real Women Have Curves: The Musical. Listen in as the twins get the inside scoop on Tatianna’s first ever Broadway season, what it’s been like to lead this new musical as Ana Garcia, and the incredible company she’s a part of. We gush over Justina Machado, gag for the backstage telenovela created by the cast, and the powerful way audiences are engaging with Real Women Have Curves. Tati takes us back to the Bay Area, where her love of the arts began with Annie and was accelerated by Lin-Manuel Miranda. We have a discussion about the importance of body representation and the visibility of Black and Brown people on stage. Thankfully, shows like RWHC have BOTH mama! We’re in the presence of a culture queen, y’all! Tatianna is just as addicted to binge watching all the latest shows (Severance!) as well as some classics (Lost!), while curating music playlists for every season of life. Connor rides for Maren Morris, Dylan has One of Them Days, and Tatianna gags for KATSEYE. While listening to this episode, pull out your phone and snag a seat to Real Women Have Curves on Broadway. You will love it, and obviously will love Tatianna!
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    “The First Spoiler” with Brent Comer May 14, 2025
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    Connor and Dylan are joined by Grammy Award nominee Brent Comer (The Outsiders, Les Misérables). Celebrating over a year playing Darrel Curtis in the Tony-winning Best Musical, Brent opens up about how his experience with the show has changed over time, ways he’s keeping it fresh, and gives insight into his relationship with co-star (and friend of the pod) Jason Schmidt. We get into Outsiders lore, including Patrick Swayze’s OG impact as Darrel, Tulsa, and the language of violence in the musical. Brent also reveals his favorite part of every single performance of The Outsiders. Star Wars, The White Lotus, and The Last of Us are discussed at length, as well as Brent’s love of documentaries. Respect is put to Miley’s “More to Lose” (the LIVE version, mama!), and Ransom Canyon on Netflix is teased. You’ve been warned. Are you curious about tattoos, Angelina Jolie, and the Broadway season at LARGE? Brent as Stanley Kowalski, George Seurat, or Sweeney Todd??? Stay until the end, y’all. Brent is a meme king, fitness legend, and Broadway star. DO NOT miss him in The Outsiders on Broadway.
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    “Sugar and Shots” with Bella Coppola May 07, 2025
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    Connor and Dylan are joined by Bella Coppola (Smash, Six the Musical). We know we’ve kept you waiting, we know we’ve made you mad, but this time that we’ve spent recording the pod is the best time we’ve ever had. Ding! At long last, we’re featuring one of the stars of Smash on BROADWAY. This is a moment we’ve dreamed of since we first watched the television series over a decade ago. Bella stars as Chloe, the associate director/choreographer, and she’s here to tell us all about it. Listen up for a spoiler-free discussion about the stage show, all of our favorite moments/songs/lines, her journey to becoming part of the musical, and Bella’s magical opening night experience. Oh… and may we say “Stro”? Bella is a DRAMA. listener, y’all! It’s a true kiki as we discuss Bravo shows, biking on the crazy city streets, Real Women Have Curves and John Proctor is the Villain, and MORE. Bella also starred in Six, so keep listening for the Jane Seymour tea. We rave about Brooks Ashmanskas, Shaiman/Whitman scores, and lots and lots of drama. Let us be your stars, y’all.
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    "Give It Real Balls" with Ana Gasteyer Apr 30, 2025
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    Dylan and Connor are joined by Ana Gasteyer (Once Upon a Mattress, “Saturday Night Live”). The Queen is coming. Actually, the Queen has ARRIVED. The twins are absolutely gagged to be joined by icon, legend, mother Ana Gasteyer. Fresh off of singing into a bullhorn in Times Square (IYKYK), Ana dives right into discussing the hot-off-the-presses cast album for Once Upon a Mattress, how it felt returning to Broadway with such a beloved show and cast, and what it was like playing alongside Michael Urie. Listen as she spills on her 6 seasons on “Saturday Night Live,” including the recent SNL50 celebration. Ana speaks on when she realized she was ready to leave SNL, followed by becoming one of the very first women to play Elphaba in the original company of Wicked in Chicago. Ana speaks about her Quaker upbringing leading to a life of performing, whether it be with The Groundlings, on television, or even the Broadway stage. She shares tidbits about working with Rachel Dratch, Kate Reinders, and appearing on early demos of Hairspray. We gush over the new film Sinners, Floyd Collins and its extraordinary cast, and happily celebrate Drag: The Musical’s award nominations. We only love Ana more after some DRAMA!
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