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Down the Middle: A Political Podcast

Now the largest moderate political podcast in the nation! Join two best friends, Rob, a liberal (against leftism), and Justin, a conservative (don’t call him a Trumper), as they engage in some calm and less calm, but always civil, discourse. DTM is a show about politics and current events through the lens of moderation, measuredness, common ground, understanding, and compassion. Indoctrinate yourself into moderate values, and join the Moderation Revolution!

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Latest Episodes:

Episode 33: "The DTM Biannual Post Election and State of the Union Soireè" Part I Dec 30, 2022

After 1 year, and 8 months apart, Justin and Rob come together for a post election analysis and state of the union discussion the likes of which you will never forget....even if you really want to.

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Bonus: War Primer Mar 11, 2022

We're baaaaaaaaack with not even an episode.....this is just a primer!!! Listen to your two favorite moderate, political best friends say hello to each other and then kick back as Justin gives you a primer for everything you need to know about the ongoing war in Ukraine.

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Episode 32: "I heard Justin and Rob work for the CIA now!", The Conspiracy Theory Episode Apr 28, 2021

Redacted.

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Episode 31: "Rush to Judgement" Feb 26, 2021

On Episode 31 of the pod, Justin finally gets a question, we go through the various political problems facing several prominent politicians; talk about the power grid in Texas, revist the Disney v. Gina Carano issue, and we discuss Rush Limbaugh and the rise of alternative media.

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Episode 30: "How to Reduce Crime without going Nuclear" Feb 18, 2021

This week on the pod, we answer some user questions aimed at Rob, as per usual; discuss the impeachment, or lack thereof and its implications; you finally get to see us spar about cancel culture and conservative discrimination, and we wrap up our discussion with Editor-in-Chief, Clay Cogman about the decriminalization of drugs.

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Special Guest: Clay Cogman.

Episode 29: "How to Destroy the Nuclear Family" Feb 11, 2021

On Episode 29 of the pod, we go through the news of the week, talk about Bidenomics, and the impeachment trial, bring on a special guest to remind us that politics can be both funny and stupid, and continue our conversation from last week about hookers and blow.

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Special Guests: Andrea More and Clay Cogman.

Episode 28: "How to Create a Crime Syndicate" Feb 04, 2021

On Episode 28 of the podcast, we discuss the ongoing saga of the market, GameStop and Robinhood, give some important updates concerning impeachment and executive orders, and Rob presents his case for the legalization of cocaine and hookers.

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Special Guest: Clay Cogman.

Episode 27: "Slow Joe's Foes Don't Like the EOs" Jan 28, 2021

Join us for Episode 27 of the podcast where we cover the Biden inaguration, Trump's upcoming impeachment hearings, and we go through aaaall the executive orders your little hearts could ever desire and much more.

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Episode 26: "Xi Market Crapitalism" Jan 14, 2021

Join us for Episode 26 of the pod, we make some fun and exciting announcements about a new addition to the DTM family, answer a listener question that expands our conversation about globalization, discuss some news that actually doesn’t have anything to do with an armed insurrection at the Capitol, and we discuss why automation could be what takes your job before a South American migrant worker even has a chance to. All this and more!

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Episode X: "Insurrection" Jan 08, 2021

We discuss one of the darkest days in American political history.

Special Guest: Greer Illingworth.

Episode 25: "Rebel Without a Claus, A DTM Holiday Special" Dec 18, 2020

Join us as we ride on a one horse sleigh straight into 2021. We tackle some listener questions in this week's 'We Care a Lot', news it up with 'Turn on the News', and a special holiday edition of 'Extremely Normal News', clue you in to some holiday culture with 'Culture Corner', introduce a new segment destined to become a fan favorite: 'Math with Riz', and in our 'Topic of the Day' we ask the question 'Are we a Christian nation?', and Justin gets very excited to use his Masters degree in Theology. Good riddance, 2020. Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, listeners!!

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Episode 24: "Can Blue and Red Share a Bed?" Dec 10, 2020

We're baaaaaack! Join us this week for an exploration into globalization and many other fun endeavors. We answer a fun listener question in 'We Care Alot', negotiate a very great deal of news in 'Turn on the News' including but not limited to a few election lawsuit updates, Biden's cabinet picks, and a policy discussion on lockdowns; we introduce a new segment called 'DO BETTER!', and discuss Hillbilly Elegy in this weeks 'Culture Corner'. Let's get into it, America.

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Bonus: 'Buzzed History and Interview with the Honorable Fred Zeidman Part II' Nov 25, 2020

Join Justin for a special Thanksgiving edition of 'Buzzed History', for the conclusion of our interview with the Honorable Fred Zeidman (originally released Aug 14th, 2020), and because it wouldn't be Thanksgiving without a little family, the interview includes a special appearance by 'father of the pod', Ambassador Ned Siegel. Happy Thanksgiving from all of us at Down the Middle: A Political Podcast!

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Special Guests: Ambassador Ned L. Siegel and The Honorable Fred Zeidman.

Interview with Emily Conrad Nov 20, 2020

Join us as we sit down with author of “The Faithless? The Untold Story of the Electoral College”, Emily Conrad. We discuss Emily’s book, of course, and we talk all things Electoral College; where it’s been, where it’s going, and how it looks at present since the Supreme Court cases of this past summer. All that and a little more on this weeks interview only segment of Down the Middle.

What do you think of the EC, which are the initials for both our guest and our subject matter, so sound off on either on the Discord!!

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Special Guest: Emily Conrad.

Episode 23: "So Electorally Collegial" Nov 19, 2020

Join us this week as we make good on our word to answer listener questions, actually introduce a segment on the news (it's about time) where we dive into the election lawsuit updates, and exactly whom President Trump has fired in the past two weeks; get into some 'Culture Corner' with Bill Maher, President Obama, alt-social media, and Harry Styles, give out the Bonehead of the Week award not to Donald Trump, and get down on the Electoral College in our 'Topic of the Day'.

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Episode 22: "A Cup of Joe Bye-Don" Post-Election Special Nov 13, 2020

Welcome to Season 2 of Down the Middle: A Political Podcast. We've made it!

Join us as we kick off Season 2 by unpacking as many events from the past….how long has it been? A year? No. ….ONE WEEK!?!? Ok...as many events from the past week as we can. We talk about the election (duh), the polls, the current state of the Senate, how and where the country voted, the voter fraud allegations by the Trump administration and Trump himself, where aaaaall of the litigation currently sits, Biden’s acceptance speech, the current war brewing inside the Democratic Party, the aftermath of Trumpism, and a public service announcement from us…spoiler alert: WEAR A MASK. And at the end of the episode, you’ll hear us both pass out from exhaustion.

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Episode 21: "Oh My Word, It's Almost the 3rd" Election Special Oct 30, 2020

Join us for a Special Election Episode of the Pod; the very last episode of Season 1. Riz spouts an ideological pontification in this week's 'We Care a Lot' segment, we briefly review the final Biden/Trump debate in 'Cut me Mick', we bring back 'Virtually Debatable' for a final virtual sparring session with Mr. Ben Shapiro, and send you off to the polls or your mailbox with a few final words from us both... one at a time, of course. Less than a week to go; if you haven't voted, what the heck are you waiting for!?

Link to the DTM Election Night Livestream: https://www.facebook.com/103093954752195/posts/183990519995871/

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Episode 20: "iReddit on Facebook" Oct 22, 2020

Aaaaand, we're back! Join us for Episode 20: "iReddit on Facebook", where we take a very long time to answer a listener question about foreign policy in this weeks 'We Care a Lot' segment, rant to our hearts content about the ACB hearings and media bias, briefly discuss the VP debate, have a sing along with songs about presidents in this weeks 'Culture Corner', and get real deep into what could be the most important 'Topic of the Day' yet: The Internet and Free Speech.

Oh yeah, and Vote. Vote. Vote. Vote. Vote. Vote. Vote. Vote. Vote. Vote. Vote.

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Bonus: 'Buzzed History' and Interview with Lloyd Chapman Oct 15, 2020

Join us as we take the week off, but still find time to dive deep into the Small Business Administration, or as you know them, the government agency that gave all that PPP money to Yeezy, The Archdiocese of New York, Joseph Kushner Hebrew Academy, Forbes Media, and TGI Fridays. First up, a 'Buzzed History' on the history of the SBA, followed by an interview with the President and founder of the American Small Business League, Lloyd Chapman. The ASBL has been spearheading litigation to acquire information on small business utilization in government contracts, and acting as a voice for small business in Washington DC. The general aim of the ASBL is to prevent federal small business contracts from being diverted to large corporation. We get into what the ASBL does and its history, the current lawsuit the ASBL has against the SBA for transparency for the PPP loans, and a few conspiracy theories might carry some weight....but as always, we'll let you decide for yourself. Throw on your flippers and dive right in; the water is fine.

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Special Guest: Lloyd Chapman.

Episode 19: "The POTUS’s Hoax-us Pokes Us" Oct 08, 2020

Join us as we Trump Trump Trump Trump our way through all of the White House COVID craziness and try to make some semblance of sense of it all, as we just can't seem to run away from the news. We bring back some favorite segments like ‘New Tone-ian Physics’, and ‘The Trump Whisperer’; we talk about the President’s walking away from the Congressional covid relief negotiation table, the latest polls and what it means for the election, and we sit down with John Gomez from ‘Twin XL’ for a new ‘Shut Up and Sing’. Last but certainly not least, we introduce a new segment that we know will become a fan favorite: ‘Extremely Normal News’, because we need more talk about squirrels on this show. You wanted it, you got it, Episode 19 is here.

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Episode 18: "Oh my Pod, it's Voter Fraud!" Oct 01, 2020

Join us this week for segments aplenty as we dive faces first into ACB and Catholicism in our new segment 'Keep the Faith'; Trump's Tax Troubles in our other new segment 'Controversy of the Week'; AND YET ANOTHER new segment called 'Cut me, Mick', where we very large sigh attempt to break down the first Presidential (if you can call it that) debate, and afterwards, Rob takes another shot at everyone's favorite game show 'Is this a quote from the first Presidential debate, or just a thing I made up?' Don't worry, we didn't forget the topic of the week: Voting and Voter Fraud, which is chock full of information with J's 'Buzzed History', this week's 'Bonehead of the Week', and we give our new editor-in-chief of the forthcoming 'The Intermediary' a call to discuss this topic as well. Yep, we think it's all a hot mess, inside a dumpster fire, inside a train wreck too, let's jump in, shall we?

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Special Guest: Clay Cogman.

Episode 17: "Ruth-less Apocalypse; Endless Politics" Sep 24, 2020

Join us, as we ourselves are joined by a very special guest for the entirety of this episode on all things SCOTUS. We pay tribute to RBG, get into some Supreme Court 101, buzz through a 'Buzzed History' on a few landmark cases of the Supreme Court, bring back an old segment-friend, 'Partisanship: A Hell of A Drug', discuss the insanity going on in the Senate, and get some background on President Trump's potential nominees. This one is a barn burner, so don't try to take it sitting down. This Is Episode Seveeeenteeeeeen.

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Special Guests: Ambassador Ned L. Siegel and Clay Cogman.

Interview with Santa Monica Pete Sep 20, 2020

Let's talk regulations! Ok... we know that doesn't sound all THAT exciting; but you won't believe the story that our friend Santa Monica Pete has for you. Join us as we sit down with Santa Monica Pete to discuss some of the terrifying and restrictive regulations that local cities can place on its citizens and the reprecussions. Are these good or bad for businesses? Are these good or bad for citizens? Let us know what you think in our Discord. Link below and in our bio!

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Special Guest: Santa Monica Pete.

Episode 16: "Woodward and BURNstein" Sep 17, 2020

Join us this week, for a wild ride through a vast myriad of topics (deep inhale)... We tackle the politicization of professional sports, a bit more about law enforcement, we're joined by actress and singer, Samaire Armstrong, for our new segment "Shut up and Sing"; we dole out a new Bonehead of the Week, and we discuss the Woodward tapes and a few more recent political disasters. BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE! Don't worry, we didn't forget the Topic of the Week: Environmental Regulation and Fire. Justin explores the roots of the American environmental movement and government-sanctioned environmental regulations in a new Buzzed History, and we discuss the ongoing wildfires and who, or what is to blame. Pull up your bootstraps, cowboys and girls, it's political rodeo-ing time!

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Special Guest: Samaire Armstrong.

Episode 15: "Arrr NC for You and Me!" Sep 09, 2020

Join us as we make our triumphant return to the podisphere. On this episode of the pod, we answer some listener questions, hand out an award in our new 'Bonehead of the Week' segment, discuss the RNC and play the new game show sweeping the nation called 'Is This A Quote from the RNC or Just A Thing J Made Up?'. We also talk about Jacob Blake and Kyle Rittenhouse, and dive headfirst into a 'Virtually Debatable' debate "with" Ben Shapiro about Joe Biden.

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Bonus: 'Buzzed History' and Interview with David Smick and Hawk Newsome from 'Stars and Strife' Sep 02, 2020

Join us as we give you the week to catch up on aaaaall the long episodes (yes, we've registered your complaints), and leave you with what we'll call Episode 14.5. We have for you a Buzzed History on the history of the police force in America (and a little bit on the rest of the world), and a very special interview with David Smick (writer and director of 'Stars and Strife', New York Times bestselling author and global macroeconomic strategist), and Hawk Newsome (star of 'Stars and Strife' and co-founder of the Greater New York chapter of Black Lives Matter) to discuss the film 'Stars and Strife', BLM, the state of our economy, and how the media has affected our current national climate.

**listener note: Hawk Newsome enters the interview 10 minutes after the start of the interview

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Special Guests: David Smick and Hawk Newsome.

Episode 14: "Some Basics, Some DNC, and Finally Some Brevity" Aug 27, 2020

Ok, so we obviously lied about the brevity, but hey, we tried! Join us this week for Episode 14 as we dive into a question from a listener that spun us out into an entire episode on the ideological, core differences between Republicans and Democrats. J provides a 'Buzzed History' on Social Security, we compare and contrast the European style of governance with that of America, get into some conversation about the past weeks' DNC, and we leave you with your first DTM homework assignment. Virtual learning only, of course. Let's get back to our roots, people!!

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Interview with Mr. Paris Dennard Aug 25, 2020

Join us, as we sit down with political commentator and strategist, Paris Dennard. We discuss all things President Trump, the black community, the RNC, and get into Paris' journey as a Republican and some career highlights. You don't want to miss this one!!

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Special Guest: Mr. Paris Dennard.

Episode 13: "The Red and Blue Switcheroo" Aug 19, 2020

Join us for episode lucky number 13 as we dive into SOME BIG NEWS, some fear mongering, some culture, some Kamala, and the topic of the day: 'The History of the African American Vote'.

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Interview with The Honorable Fred Zeidman Aug 14, 2020

Join us as we sit down with the Chairman Emeritus of the United States Holocaust Memorial Council, The Honorable Fred Zeidman, to discuss the current state of the GOP, Texas politics, and Israel and Jewish affairs. We get access to some incredible political stories from the golden age of the GOP and what might be to come.

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Special Guest: The Honorable Fred Zeidman.

Episode 12: "Israeli Hot in Here" Aug 12, 2020

Join us as we welcome you back to the pod after our week off (well for one of us anyway). We cover a great deal on this episode; we rant a little (it’s actually a lot), take questions from you: our listeners, engage in a three way debate with clips from the Ben Shapiro Show, get real serious with the topic of the day: Israel (we're looking at you, Seth Rogan), and so, so, so much more. It’s ‘get more bang for your buck’ week on DTM!

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Bonus: 'Buzzed History' and Interview with Dr. Andrew Part II Aug 05, 2020

Join us, as we take a week off and leave you with this bonus episode, let's call it 11.5. We have a special 'Buzzed History' that pulls a subject from our Episode 10 conversation with Professor Marc M. Cogman, and the exciting conclusion of our interview with Dr. Andrew where we discuss a bit more healthcare and trip and fall into a debate on socialism.

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Interview with Paul Angelo Aug 01, 2020

Join us as we discuss, debate and engage (civilly, of course) with Mr. Paul Angelo, a self described socialist. We cover a great amount of ground including, but not limited to: Obama, Clinton, Trump, and of course, Bernie, the military, Venezuela, different subsets of socialists, and so much more. So hang onto your hats, and keep your hands and feet inside your vehicle at all times!!

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Episode 11: "There's A Schism in Your Ism" Jul 29, 2020

Join us as we delve into the muddy waters of socialism and the Bernie Sanders "Let's Spend All of the Government's Money" plan, discuss President Trump’s various interviews, tone changes, rhetoric shifts, and how the media interprets them, and we address even more listener feedback directed at...you guessed it: Mr. Rob Leifer. Don't forget to rate, review and subscribe.

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Episode 10: "The Education and Indoctrination Dissertation (feat. Professor Marc M. Cogman) Jul 22, 2020

Join us as we celebrate reaching Episode 10 with a lively discussion featuring special guest, and best friend of the pod, Professor Marc M. Cogman. We consider the nuances of academic bias and the systems that perpetuate the surrounding narrative. Is it real or not? Sound off on our Discord here: https://discord.gg/kjFBCkW, on our socials, and don't forget to rate, review and subscribe!

Special Guest: Professor Marc M. Cogman.

Interview with Dr. Andrew Part I Jul 19, 2020

Join us as we sit down with one of Rob's oldest and closest friends, Dr. Andrew, to talk all things COVID-19, with a smattering of politics there at the end. We dispel some myths, and get some very important clarifications and answers on a host of virus related issues. Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe wherever you are listening to the pod, and join our Discord! The link is here: https://discord.gg/kjFBCkW

Special Guest: Dr. Andrew.

Episode 9: "The Hell in HEaLthcare" Jul 15, 2020

Join us as we tackle....you guessed it: healthcare! We dive in deep to address the ongoing conversation surrounding the medical system in our country, and we discuss a few others as well. This week's Buzzed History explores the history of healthcare since the 1700s, and we have some great new segments for you including 'Father Knows Best' with special guest father (also Rob's father), Mr. Herb Leifer. Don't forget to rate, review and subscribe, and join us on our new Discord Page here: https://discord.gg/kjFBCkW

Episode 8: "Statues, Statutes, Statures, & Statistics" Jul 08, 2020

Join us, as we dive feet first (while closing our eyes and holding our noses) back into current events. We tackle some searing listener feedback in Honest Abe's Housekeeping Hangout, we talk about some statues (with a title like that, how could we not!?), the media, the 4th of July, the President's speech at Mount Rushmore, and we get to some updated COVID talk and the government response. It's a heavy episode, so buckle up.... it's a bumpy ride!!!

Interview with Charlie and Lisa Spies Jul 02, 2020

Join us as we sit down with Washington D.C. political power couple, Charlie and Lisa Spies to discuss PACs and Super PACs, the Republican Party and President Trump, Senator Mitt Romney, social media's impact on the politics of the country, and so much more including a fun twist on our speed round. Tune in, and don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe!!

Special Guests: Charlie Spies and Lisa Spies.

Episode 7: "Biden His Time (?)" Jun 30, 2020

Join us as we tackle Rage Against the Machine's politics in this weeks Honest Abe's Housekeeping Hangout, discuss political 'whataboutism', Mitt Romney, cancel culture, Columbine, and Tipper Gore's Parental Advisory sticker. We explore Warren G. Harding's 'Return to Normalcy' campaign on this weeks 'Buzzed History' as we begin our discussion on the Biden campaign, and we introduce our new segments 'Partisanship: A Hell of A Drug', and 'Let's Get Personal'.

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Interview with Professor Adam MacLeod Jun 19, 2020

Join us as we go in deep with Professor Adam MacLeod on the topic of civil discourse and how to bring our nation back to civility. Let us know what you think! Rate, review, and subscribe

Special Guest: Adam MacLeod.

Episode 6: "I'm Outraged!? No, You're Outraged!!" Jun 19, 2020

Join us this week on the pod as we discuss the outrage of both parties, and where it's warranted, put the Right under the microscope, and introduce a new segment called "Buzzed History". Don't forget to rate, subscribe, and comment!

Episode 5: "A Lot Less Wokeness, Please" and Interview with Cat Braithwaite Jun 12, 2020

Join us on the pod this week as we introduce "Honest Abe's Housekeeping Hangout", discuss 'white wokeness' and its implications, dive headfirst into a conversation surrounding the racial divide, the causes, and some possible solutions. We also welcome Cat Braithwaite to the pod and get her opinion on the events of the past few weeks, and her thoughts on the past and current state of metal. Don't forget to like, subscribe and let us know what you think!!

Special Guest: Cat Braithwaite .

Interview with Officer Ed Jun 06, 2020

Join us as we interview Officer Ed, a California police officer; we discuss the Floyd case and ongoing riots and protests, police reform and hiring policies, homelessness, and so much more. Make sure to tell us what you think by commenting on our socials or send us your thoughts on our website.

Special Guest: Officer Ed.

Episode 4: "A Lot More Empathy Needed" Jun 05, 2020

RECORDED: Tues, June 2nd, 2020. Join us this week as we attempt to sort out the current issues facing our nation. We tackle the facts in the George Floyd murder, and dive into discussions on the politicization of BLM, police reform, the 'defund the police' movement and so much more.

NOTE: We will be posting our accompanying interview (with Officer Ed) in a seperate bonus episode.

Episode 3: “A Lot More Pathological Unideological-ness” and Interview with Ambassador Ned L. Siegel May 29, 2020

Ah, Episode 3...now with more format! Join us as we tackle current events with help from a Ben Shapiro quote, ask the question "Is President Trump a racist?" and we have our first interview, which was a very hard get, so we hope you appreciate it (spoiler alert: it's Justin's father). Yes, that's right, we are excited to welcome Ambassador Ned L. Siegel to the pod and discuss all things Israel and the problem of anti-semitism. Even 'The Dude' shows up, so sit back, relax (not too much) open your ears and don't forget to rate, review, subscribe, and follow us!

Special Guest: Ambassador Ned L. Siegel.

Episode 2: "A Lot More Ideology" May 20, 2020

We made it to Episode 2! Welcome back, listeners. In this episode we dive headfirst into media bias, Rush Limbaugh and a few other weighty topics that will no doubt satiate your centrist hunger. Don't forget to rate, review and subscribe. Visit www.downthemiddlepod.com for more info.

Episode 1: "A Lot More Beer" May 18, 2020

Join us, Rob and Justin, for our very first foray into podcasting. In this Episode, we give you an introduction to our podcast, our history, and our political backgrounds and viewpoints. Don't worry, we didn't forget the false start, every podcast should have one. We hope this becomes a place you can turn to for a political breath of fresh air. Welcome to Down the Middle: A Political Podcast! Visit us at www.downthemiddlepod.com for more info.

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