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    Don’t Listen To Us with Mandy Patinkin and Kathryn Grody

    Don’t Listen to Us is an advice show for advice-skeptics and wisdom-lovers, hosted by Mandy Patinkin, Kathryn Grody, and their son Gideon. Legendary actor Mandy (The Princess Bride, Homeland, Criminal Minds) is the consummate entertainer who shoots from the hip, stage actress Kathryn is the thoughtful connector who sees all the nuance, and Gideon is the brave soul keeping them on track (or at least trying). Together, Mandy and Kathryn have 40+ years of marriage, 140+ years of life experience, and a series of viral social media posts where Gideon interviews them and watches both chaos and wisdom ensue.

    They don’t always agree on what advice to give—in fact, they rarely do. But they draw from their highs and lows as artists, parents, lovers, and humans, to give their unique take on real dilemmas submitted by you — the listeners. Hang out with this family and you’ll walk away with insights you didn’t expect, stories you’ll want to repeat, and comfort knowing that you’re not alone in figuring out how to survive this fakakta world.

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    Try This: Tenants Are Fighting for Their Right to Clean Air Jul 08, 2026
    Show notes

    Enjoy this episode of Good Things, a Lemonada show that amplifies the good work being done by activists and organizers all over the country.

    Most people think of pollution as something outside, like smog and exhaust. But gas stoves, ovens, furnaces, and water heaters can actually release nitrogen dioxide directly into your home. For renters, that's a problem without easy solutions: unlike homeowners, they can't simply swap in safer, cleaner energy sources, and landlords and policymakers have been slow to act.

    In this episode, host Gloria Riviera speaks with Adama Moussa Harouna and Tanushree Dutta Isaacman, organizers at Action in Montgomery, about their work pushing for safer living conditions, lower toxic emissions, and a more sustainable energy future for renters.

    This episode was made in partnership with Action in Montgomery. To learn more about their work, visit actioninmontgomery.org

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    Do Your Friends Have to Share Your Values? Jul 01, 2026
    Show notes

    Should you tell a friend you think their job is unethical? Mandy and Kathryn disagree. A listener asks about using AI as a creative. Mandy and Kathryn play the role of their lives - AI bots. Find out what prompts they used. Oh, and Gene Kelly’s wife calls to chat about the famous dancer and actor’s final years and his advice to Mandy. This episode originally aired on 11/19/2025.


    Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here: https://www.speakpipe.com/AskMandyandKathryn or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com.


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    Chapters:

    00:00 - How we’re feeling today.

    01:02 - Mandy's favourite vs Gideon’s favourite joke.

    03:09 - Would you tell a friend to quit a job you think is unethical? Mandy and Kathryn disagree.

    15:01 - What are the boundaries of using AI in the creative space?

    18:40 - Becky gets up! Did you see her?

    19:09 - Kathryn’s fear of AI and how Mandy uses it in his concerts.

    23:45 - Mandy and Kathryn try their hand at playing an AI bot. Find out what prompts they gave.

    25:46 - Iconic dancer Gene Kelly’s widow - Patricia Kelly - asks a question!

    27:23 - Gene Kelly’s advice to a young Mandy.

    32:27 - How Gene Kelly and Patricia met and other memories.

    38:21 - Gene Kelly’s later years and lessons in aging.

    45:02 - Singing in the Rain is public domain…so the family sings!

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    Does Wisdom Come With Age? Starting Over After a Move Jun 24, 2026
    Show notes

    A surprise Off-Off-Broadway debut. The most unforgettable compliment Kathryn Grody and Mandy Patinkin have ever received. One of them left us speechless. Does wisdom always come with age? Or, is that just something older people tell us? And, a question many listeners can relate to: how do you rebuild your life after a major move and start over in a new place? Plus, Kathryn tries her hand at K-Pop - generational culture divides be damned.


    Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here: https://www.speakpipe.com/AskMandyandKathryn or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com.


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    Chapters:

    00:00 Becky’s musical debut. In case you missed it!

    01:50 Welcome to Don’t Listen to Us! We’re all about the compliments.

    02:00 The best compliment Kathryn Grody has ever received.

    02:45 A generational culture feud. Gena Rowlands, anyone? John Cassavetes? Joe and Gail Papp? Slam Dance Butterfingers? ;)

    04:55 Mandy Patinkin’s most memorable “compliment.” Gideon’s response? “Wow.”

    07:44 The best compliment Mandy Patinkin and Kathryn Grody ever gave each other.

    08:19 Does wisdom always come with age? And, when have you felt the wisest?

    09:50 Mandy Patinkin “thinks too much.”

    11:04 Kathryn Grody’s thoughts on what keeps you wise.

    11:55 Kathryn Grody’s impression of K-Pop.

    13:27 The one tip that will help you become wise.

    14:10 Dog treat taste test… Again?

    14:25 Family’s old dog, Nondo, and the disputed energy bar story.

    16:03 A family friend joins us. He shares his story of fleeing Afghanistan and what it was like to start from scratch and settle in America.

    20:18 Community, social life and neighbourly connections. What our family friend misses most about Afghanistan.

    21:55 Listener question: How do you adjust to a new life and start over?

    27:05 How do you remember who you are when everything and everyone around you is new?

    31:00 Goodbyes. Send us your questions. Credits.

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    Have You Ever Encountered a Ghost? Jun 17, 2026
    Show notes

    A listener asks Mandy and Kathryn whether they've ever encountered a ghost. Stories about the paranormal, being present at a birth and a death, and the surprise career turning points that shape a life.

    Also, a conversation about how theater should be more welcoming to audiences with diverse needs, and the raucous return of the Dating Game. Do Mandy Patinkin and Kathryn Grody know each other’s favorite movie?

    Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here: https://www.speakpipe.com/AskMandyandKathryn or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com.

    Check out Touretteshero.com! Their mission is to create an inclusive and socially just world for disabled and non-disabled people through cultural practice.

    Watch on Spotify. Spotify Premium users get no commercial breaks on our show.

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    Chapters:

    00:00 Tech Troubles and Home on the Range

    00:25 Morning Check-In With Mandy Patinkin and Kathryn Grody

    01:33 Breathing Exercise for Stress Relief

    02:19 Collagen Coffee and Wellness Trends

    03:22 Listener Question: Do You Believe in Ghosts?

    03:47 Ghost Stories and Theater Hauntings

    06:45 Mandy's Paranormal Experience of Death

    09:16 How Small Moments Shape Our Lives

    09:53 The Paper Bag Memory That Changed Everything

    12:18 Rewriting Your Life Story

    13:15 Kathryn's Unexpected Broadway Break

    14:12 Auditions, Connection, and Being Seen

    14:59 The Power of Giving Birth

    16:18 Listener Question from a Neurodivergent Theater Lover

    18:33 Making Theater Welcoming for Everyone

    19:04 Relaxed Performances and Autism-Friendly Theater

    23:45 Accessibility, Inclusion, and Advocacy in the Arts

    27:18 Tourette Syndrome at the Edinburgh Fringe

    31:58 Dating Game!

    33:46 Do Mandy and Kathryn Know Each Other’s Favorite Movie?

    36:29 Credits, Subscribe, and Listener Questions

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    The Dating App Episode (Plus a Rare Sondheim Story) Jun 10, 2026
    Show notes

    What would happen if Mandy Patinkin and Kathryn Grody joined a dating app? In this episode, they imagine their dating profiles, invent wildly different dating apps of their own, and reveal what they're really looking for in human connection.

    Plus, a listener question about navigating a younger, condescending boss at work. And Mandy tells the unforgettable story of the first time Stephen Sondheim played him "Finishing the Hat" during rehearsal for Sunday in the Park with George—and why, decades later, he still rarely sings the song outside the show.

    Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here: https://www.speakpipe.com/AskMandyandKathryn or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com.

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    Chapters:

    00:00 Home on the Range!

    01:30 Mandy and Kathryn Catch Up

    02:58 What If Mandy and Kathryn Joined Dating Apps?

    04:04 Dating Apps Explained (and Misunderstood)

    05:26 The Weirdest Niche Dating Apps

    06:50 Dating App Dealbreakers

    07:46 The Hugging App: Would It Work?

    11:09 Building Mandy and Kathryn's Dating Profiles

    14:59 Inventing Our Own Dating Apps

    15:59 What is a Cultural Touchstone That Changed You?

    17:17 Empathy Across Generations

    18:22 Learning Empathy and Perspective

    20:25 Why Kathryn Changed Her Mind About Musicals

    21:21 Mandy Patinkin on the Origins of "Finishing the Hat"

    23:19 The First Time Stephen Sondheim Shared "Finishing the Hat"

    26:42 How Mandy Felt When He First Sang “Finishing the Hat”

    29:13 Workplace Advice: Dealing With a Younger Boss

    35:38 Giving Creative Notes Across Generations

    37:52 Final Thoughts and Credits

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    Why We’re All Addicted to Our Phones Jun 03, 2026
    Show notes

    A teen asks the question we’re all struggling with: how do you protect your mental health when your phone, social media, and the news cycle never stop? We talk doomscrolling, screen time and the pressure to always be “plugged in.” And, what’s the best excuse to get out of a social obligation? We debate the most believable exits to cancel plans and the guilt of saying no. Plus, can Kathryn survive a pop culture quiz? Does she know who Taylor Swift is dating?

    Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here: https://www.speakpipe.com/AskMandyandKathryn or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com.

    👉 Subscribe so you don’t miss a new episode every week!

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    #MandyPatinkin #KathrynGrody #Podcast #DontListenToUs #PhoneAddiction #Doomscrolling #DigitalDetox #ScreenTime #GenZ #GenZCulture #InternetCulture #MentalHealth

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    Chapters:

    00:00 - Gideon Grody-Patinkin finally comes out from behind the camera!

    00:28 - Kathryn Grody takes a pop culture quiz. Who’s Taylor Swift dating? What’s main character syndrome? And what are girl dinners?

    03:51 - A teen listener asks about phone addiction and how to maintain your mental health.

    05:15 - How to combat doomscrolling with joy and hope.

    11:57 - Family guest Ivan Cash suggests phone boundaries that can help with phone addiction.

    12:54 - Nightly doomscrolling before bed. Are alarm clocks the solution?

    16:39 - A phone meditation you can do too.

    22:50 - How do you work with family without ruining the relationship? Gideon asks for a friend.

    25:30 - What’s the best excuse to get out of a social obligation?

    26:47 - We debate the best and most believable injuries to cancel plans.

    33:21 - Can we be honest about not wanting to go? The guilt of saying no to social obligations.

    34:00 - Goodbyes. Credits. Thank yous!

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    TOMS Founder Blake Mycoskie Tells Michael Pollan How Success Broke Him May 27, 2026
    Show notes

    New series sneak peek! No Magic Pill is hosted by TOMS Shoes founder Blake Mycoskie, who fell apart after building and selling one of the most recognized brands on the planet. After a years-long journey through every therapy and treatment imaginable, Blake is finally talking honestly about the dark side of success and the reality of mental health. In No Magic Pill, Blake travels the country to sit down with survivors, experts, and cultural icons who have looked into the darkness and found a way out. These aren’t stories of quick fixes; they are honest conversations about the daily choices, big and small, that create a path forward.


    When Blake was at the lowest point in his life, a small dose of a psychoactive cacti called San Pedro showed him the truth underneath everything. He recorded the session and in this episode he shares certain moments with journalist Michael Pollan (author of How to Change Your Mind) to break down what happened. They discuss the power of pairing psychedelics with meditation, the breakthroughs that can come with ego disillusion, and the misguided assumption that’s driving the belief that AI can become conscious. Plus, how Michael’s experiencing gardening while on mushrooms inspired the opening chapter of his new book, A World Appears.


    In this conversation you’ll learn:

    • Why psychedelics are unlike any other drug

    • The importance of set and setting when taking plant medicine

    • Why light doses are often more effective than heavier doses

    • How to break the pattern of ruminating thoughts

    • The critical period after a psychedelic experience

    • The opportunities and dangers of AI therapy


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    Disclaimer: This episode is for informational and entertainment purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional regarding any medical questions or concerns you may have



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    Death Doula Answers What Happens When We Die May 20, 2026
    Show notes

    Are you ready for a sharp turn? One minute we’re debating love languages, pickleball etiquette, and loyalty to your barber. Next, we sit down with a death doula/soul midwife who shares what dying feels like in the room, how to navigate grief, and the emotional realities of end-of-life care. She helps Mandy with a pressing question and a listener who asks how to support a friend with a terminal illness. There’s laughter, awkwardness, surprising honesty, and a reminder that joy can still exist even in life’s hardest moments.

    Correction: The quote, "We're all here to walk each other home" is misattributed in our podcast. It’s by American spiritual teacher and author Ram Dass.

    Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here: https://www.speakpipe.com/AskMandyandKathryn or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com.


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    Chapters:

    00:00 - Coming Up: Pickleball drama, love languages & talking about death.

    00:44 - One of us is hyper. It’s Mandy Patinkin. Plus, O Susanna with spoons.

    01:26 - What are the 5 love languages?

    04:19 - Should you switch barbers or hairdressers? Where does loyalty come in?

    09:55 - What are relationship pickleball rules when playing with your partner or spouse?

    14:03 - One of Kathryn Grody’s favourite childhood memories about Gideon.

    14:16 - Mind Bowling LIVE!

    16:16 - What does a death doula do?

    18:53 - How Elisabeth Kübler-Ross changed our thinking about dying and the stages of grief.

    20:28 - Why we avoid talking about death — and why we shouldn’t.

    22:05 - What are the biggest surprises about dying and end-of-life care?

    23:29 - A difficult end-of-life decision Mandy struggles with. What should I do with my body?

    29:17 - How can I support a friend with a terminal diagnosis?

    33:33 - Why this conversation meant so much to Mandy.

    35:18 - How does joy & humour play a role in death and end-of-life care? A moving story.

    39:55 - What is NEDA? The National End-of-Life Doula Alliance explained.

    43:30 - Send us your questions. Goodbye. Credits.

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    Time Slipping? Mandy Patinkin & Kathryn Grody on Aging May 13, 2026
    Show notes

    A totally original, absolutely unhinged birthday song. Danielle writes in with a big question about feeling like time is moving too fast. And a round of Scary Not Scary tackles the burning question: what would you do if a baby bear showed up in your sink?


    Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here: https://www.speakpipe.com/AskMandyandKathryn or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com.

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    #MandyPatinkin #KathrynGrody #Podcast #DontListenToUs #LifeAdvice #Aging #BirthdaySong #TimeIsFlying

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    Chapters:

    00:00 Anxiety About Time Moving Fast

    00:45 Original Birthday Song!

    00:59 New Toy Chaos

    02:02 Fashion Tips (Not Really!)

    03:30 Speaking Out in Dark Times

    06:25 Encouraged by Community Activism

    7:43 Why Mandy Uses His Voice

    09:43 Quince Ad Break

    11:43 Booking.com Sponsor

    13:54 Listener Question Setup

    14:12 Is Age a Barrier?

    17:07 Age Is Just Number

    20:55 Live Caller: Danielle

    23:14 Why Does It Feel Like Time is Speeding Up?

    26:19 Physics and Play

    28:07 What the Pandemic Did to Time

    29:56 Why Time Feels Faster with Age

    30:57 Loss and Life Lessons

    33:23 Slow Down to Live

    36:07 Birthday Plans and Video Games

    37:44 Happy Birthday Serenade

    40:23 Scary Not Scary Game

    41:31 Bear in the Sink? Now What?

    44:36 Credits and Premium Plug

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    How Do You Forgive Yourself? May 06, 2026
    Show notes

    A listener asks about addiction and self-forgiveness. A family friend drops by for a moving discussion about sobriety, relapse, and learning to move forward. Plus, Kathryn judges Gideon’s beard rather harshly, and a story about a first kiss that changed everything.

    Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here: https://www.speakpipe.com/AskMandyandKathryn or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com.

    👉 Subscribe so you don’t miss a new episode every week!

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    Chapters:

    00:00 Intro: Beards, Friendship & Forgiveness

    01:16 Who Loves a Beard?

    04:05 Boundaries & Emotional Limits

    04:44 Surprise Guest Drops By!

    07:49 Meet Psychiatric Nurse Practitioner Maureen Laffey

    08:25 How We Met Good Friend Maureen

    10:32 First Kiss Stories

    11:32 The Secret to Long Friendships

    12:39 Jack Hofsiss’ Story: Caregiving and Illness

    14:07 The Ann-Margret Elevator Story

    15:32 A Relationship Beyond Caregiver and Patient

    16:56 Michael’s Voice Note About Addiction Struggles

    18:18 Learning Self-Forgiveness

    23:04 Letting Go of the “God Complex”

    26:53 Different Paths to Sobriety

    29:36 Medication and Recovery

    32:24 One-Word Tributes to Old Friends

    34:17 Saying Goodbye

    35:37 Credits & Subscribe

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