Dirty Money Moves: Women in White Collar Crime

Dr. Joni Johnston: "Psychology of a Scammer" | S2 E9 Feb 09, 2023

This week, Jami Rice speaks with Dr. Joni E. Johnston, a licensed clinical and forensic psychologist, author and private investigator. Together, they discuss the Tara Lee adoption scam case as well as Tara’s intense lack of empathy and toxic manipulation of adoptive parents and birth parents.

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Executive producers are Jami Rice and Sim Sarna.

Emily Crain does the audio mixing and editing.

Josh Cooke composed the music and Brian Stefanik created the podcast cover art.

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Teresa Matheny: "Adoption Scam Survivor" | S2 E8 Feb 02, 2023

This week, Jami Rice speaks with Teresa Matheny, a survivor of Tara Lee’s adoption scandal. Teresa opened up about all of the hoops she had to jump through to get the baby she was promised from Tara Lee, which almost didn’t happen. She also walks Jami through how she met Tara, and how she discovered that she was a con artist running adoption scams.

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Emily Crain does the audio mixing and editing.

Josh Cooke composed the music and Brian Stefanik created the podcast cover art.

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Talia Goetting & Tonya Corrado: "Taking Down a Scammer" | S2 E7 Jan 26, 2023

Attorneys Talia Goetting & Tonya Corrado worked with Tara for a time. They were actually about to go into business with her when everything came to a screeching halt. Talia and Tonya began noticing red flags, and soon enough, they were working with the FBI to take Tara down.

In this episode, you’ll hear directly from Talia and Tonya about their experience working with Tara, and how everything went down once they became suspicious of her.

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Executive producers are Jami Rice and Sim Sarna.

Emily Crain does the audio mixing and editing.

Josh Cooke composed the music and Brian Stefanik created the podcast cover art.

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“Time For Change” | S2 E6 Jan 19, 2023

Tara Lee had the opportunity to quietly do her prison time and follow through on the court’s orders, but she just couldn’t do it. Tara began making statements that she was innocent; she didn’t complete the victim impact statement recordings as ordered by the court; and she began filing appeals to have her conviction vacated, all of which kept her firmly in the Detroit headlines.

So, where does Tara’s case stand now? Have Tara’s victims been able to move on since her incarceration? Is there anything people who are looking to adopt can do to protect themselves from falling victim to predators like Tara? What even drives someone to behave the way Tara did?

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Executive producers are Jami Rice and Sim Sarna.

Research and writing by Gina Mazzolini.

Emily Crain does the audio mixing and editing.

Josh Cooke composed the music and Brian Stefanik created the podcast cover art.

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“The Worst Case” | S2 E5 Jan 12, 2023

Tara Lee’s sentence hearing was attended by dozens of her victims, many of whom traveled great distances to see her be punished. They sobbed while giving statements to the court about how Tara hurt them. Some people even addressed Tara directly.

It wasn’t only adoptive families speaking, birth mothers and fathers, people who had their children taken from them without their consent all made their voices heard. Victim statements were given for over six hours, each person demanding justice for their broken families. Tara even spoke to the court, but would the judge be swayed by Tara’s emotional apology?

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Executive producers are Jami Rice and Sim Sarna.

Research and writing by Gina Mazzolini.

Emily Crain does the audio mixing and editing.

Josh Cooke composed the music and Brian Stefanik created the podcast cover art.

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“To Bond or Not to Bond” | S2 E4 Jan 05, 2023

Tara Lee told horrible lies about birth mothers being murdered, babies dying during childbirth, or mothers deciding to keep their babies when, in reality ..there wasn’t a mother or baby at all. Thanks to the efforts of several adoptive parents and the lawyers who worked with Tara, the FBI was notified and given a ton of information to go on as they began investigating her. The FBI also identified a woman who helped Tara pull off some of her schemes and as it turned out, this wasn’t her first rodeo either.

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Executive producers are Jami Rice and Sim Sarna.

Research and writing by Gina Mazzolini.

Emily Crain does the audio mixing and editing.

Josh Cooke composed the music and Brian Stefanik created the podcast cover art.

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Introducing: Live, Laugh, Larceny | A Pair of Classless Chaps Dec 29, 2022

Allow me to introduce you to Live, Laugh, Larceny …a satire podcast that is the perfect palate cleanser after listening to so much dark true crime content. Each week, hosts Amanda and Trevin walk listeners through ridiculously petty crimes in a dramatic way with moody music and funny sound effects sprinkled throughout.

Take a break from heinous true crime stories and listen to Live, Laugh, Larceny where you’ll hear about petty cases like the one where two old men fought at Costco over free samples.

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Executive producers are Jami Rice and Sim Sarna.

Josh Cooke composed the music and Brian Stefanik created the podcast cover art.

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“Trail of Deceit” | S2 E3 Dec 22, 2022

Tara Lee and her husband Jeremy were in financial ruin. They had lost another home to foreclosure, and Tara’s wages were still being heavily garnished. There was another bankruptcy, the purchase of another, larger home, a new car, and they adopted two babies between 2012 and 2014.

During all of her financial woes, Tara established Always Hope and it appeared to be a successful, legit adoption agency… until a phone call from a woman in late 2018 changed everything.

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Executive producers are Jami Rice and Sim Sarna.

Research and writing by Gina Mazzolini.

Emily Crain does the audio mixing and editing.

Josh Cooke composed the music and Brian Stefanik created the podcast cover art.

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“Merging Families” | S2 E2 Dec 15, 2022

Last week’s episode covered Tara Lee’s extensive history of fraud and the numerous civil judgments that had been levied against her, which dramatically affected her finances for years to come. And by the time 2014 rolled around, there were a few more financial setbacks. Even so, it seemed like Tara made some positive steps toward changing her life: she’d gone to school, gotten a degree, and was trying to take control of her finances by working multiple jobs, one of which was in the legal field. But, like she wrote in her blog in 2017, the Lord had other plans for her. Those plans would absolutely change Tara’s life, and destroy countless others in the process.

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Dirty Money Moves is a collaboration between MURDERISH and Cloud10 Media.

Executive producers are Jami Rice and Sim Sarna.

Research and writing by Gina Mazzolini.

Emily Crain does the audio mixing and editing.

Josh Cooke composed the music and Brian Stefanik created the podcast cover art.

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“Becoming Tara Lee” | S2 E1 Dec 08, 2022

In season two of Dirty Money Moves, Jami’s taking you along on a deep dive into a woman with an expensive taste for luxury jewelry and accessories, who satisfied her desires by taking money from the vulnerable and disadvantaged; a woman who preyed on the hopes and dreams of hundreds of desperate people, destroying countless families for generations to come. Tara Lee is a con artist of the worst kind, whose cruelty knew no limits.

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Dirty Money Moves is a collaboration between MURDERISH and Cloud10 Media.

Executive producers are Jami Rice and Sim Sarna.

Research and writing by Gina Mazzolini.

Emily Crain does the audio mixing and editing.

Josh Cooke composed the music and Brian Stefanik created the podcast cover art.

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“Cults, Scams and MLMs, Oh My!” with Roberta Blevins | Beachbody Mini Series E4 Dec 01, 2022

This week, host of Life After MLM podcast Roberta Blevins joins Jami to end the mini-series on Beachbody. Together, they chat about the manipulation of MLMs and how just because you’re selling lipstick and shakes, it’s still very culty and there are repercussions. Plus, Roberta reveals some of the experiences she’s had pre and post MLM.

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Dirty Money Moves is a collaboration between MURDERISH and Cloud10 Media.

Executive producers are Jami Rice and Sim Sarna.

Research and writing by Devin Ruskin.

Emily Crain did the audio mixing and editing for this episode.

Josh Cooke composed the music and Brian Stefanik created the podcast cover art.

If you’re into true crime podcasts, check out Jami’s podcast MURDERISH. Visit murderish.com and send us a message if you have information to share regarding our Season 1 case, involving Mary Carole McDonnell, or if you would like to suggest a case for us to cover on the podcast. We’re interested in investigating cases involving women who have committed white collar crimes/scams.

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Introducing: How Not to Raise a Serial Killer | Jeffrey Dahmer Part I: Beyond the Netflix Documentary Nov 24, 2022

This week, we’re featuring an episode from a podcast you should check out. How Not to Raise a Serial Killer, hosted by criminal psychologist Dr. Michelle Ward, is a true crime podcast that digs into the childhoods of some of the most notorious criminals and killers in order to learn from them and prevent future tragedies.

Join Michelle and her sister Heidi as they go beyond the new Netflix documentary, "DAHMER - Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story." Learn more about Dahmer's childhood and disorders while Michelle answers your questions from Instagram! Listen now to wherever you get your podcasts.

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Executive producers are Jami Rice and Sim Sarna.

Research, writing and producing by Devin Ruskin.

Emily Crain did the audio mixing and editing for this episode.

Josh Cooke composed the music and Brian Stefanik created the podcast cover art.

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“Be a Product of the Product” | Beachbody Mini Series E3 Nov 17, 2022

In the last episode, Jami talked about Beachbody’s highly sought after and controversial shake brand, Shakeology, and whether there’s any magic to them …or if they’re just an expensive snack. This week, Jami discusses Beachbody “coaches” and how they use problematic sales tactics to get more people to join their MLM company.

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Executive producers are Jami Rice and Sim Sarna.

Research and writing by Devin Ruskin.

Emily Crain did the audio mixing and editing for this episode.

Josh Cooke composed the music and Brian Stefanik created the podcast cover art.

If you’re into true crime podcasts, check out Jami’s podcast MURDERISH. Visit murderish.com and send us a message if you have information to share regarding our Season 1 case, involving Mary Carole McDonnell, or if you would like to suggest a case for us to cover on the podcast. We’re interested in investigating cases involving women who have committed white collar crimes/scams.

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Shakeology: Meal Replacement or Pricey Snack? | Beachbody Mini Series E2 Nov 10, 2022

In this episode, Jami talks about Beachbody’s favorite meal replacement drink...Shakeology. Are these shakes a healthy weight loss tool, or are they more of a problematic, restrictive eating tool?

Where things get very dicey is when Beachbody “coaches,” who don’t have any health or nutrition expertise, are touting the product as being a nutritious meal replacement and a proper weight loss tool, with NO outside studies to back up those claims. This raises the question …is Shakeology a proper meal replacement or just a pricey snack?

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Executive producers are Jami Rice and Sim Sarna.

Research and writing by Devin Ruskin.

Emily Crain did the audio mixing and editing for this episode.

Josh Cooke composed the music and Brian Stefanik created the podcast cover art.

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“You’re a coach …everyone’s a coach!” | Beachbody Mini Series E1 Nov 03, 2022

Now that we’ve wrapped our mini series on Gwen Shamblin, we’re bringing you another one. In this mini series, we’re tackling an enterprise many of you are probably familiar with. Multi-level marketing companies, or MLMs.

Specifically Beachbody, an MLM that offers the girlboss dream …financial independence, working from home and being your own boss. But, you know that old saying “if it seems too good to be true, it probably is.”

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Josh Cooke composed the music and Brian Stefanik created the podcast cover art.

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Introducing: A Nefarious Nightmare | Katie Palmer: “He Drove Blind Down A Road” Oct 27, 2022

This week, we’re featuring an episode from a podcast you should check out. A Nefarious Nightmare, hosted by best friends Amanda and Courtney, is a true crime podcast that covers cases of particularly vulnerable victims and survivors.

The episode we’re featuring covers the homicide case of Katie Palmer, a woman who was struck by a vehicle while walking with her husband on April 21, 2020. The man who hit her has a 20 year history of vehicular crime, including DWI, PI, Fleeing Arrest, Reckless Driving, Speeding and more. Katie’s killer has escaped justice and many people believe that is due to bias and favoritism as the perpetrator is a friend of local law enforcement. Katie Palmer’s loved ones are demanding accountability and justice.

Listen now to Amanda and Courtney's take on Katie’s case.

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Research, writing and producing by Devin Ruskin.

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Josh Cooke composed the music and Brian Stefanik created the podcast cover art.

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SOURCES:

John Palmer, Katie’s husband

https://www.txdot.gov/inside-txdot/media-center/local-news/atlanta/085-2022.html

Colton’s law: https://www.kxan.com/news/coltons-law-passes-house-committee/amp/

https://m.facebook.com/justiceforkatiepalmer/

Reckless driving: https://www.tellrobert.com/accidents/reckless-driving-accidents/an-overview-of-reckless-driving-accidents/

Drunk driving: https://www.bankrate.com/insurance/car/drunk-driving/

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“Gwen SHAMblin Lara” with Emily Hanks | Mini Series E5 Oct 20, 2022

This week, Emily Hanks, host of She Speaks Bravo podcast, joins Jami to end the mini-series on Gwen Shamblin Lara. Together, they chat about the registered dietician turned church leader and her shocking demise.

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Executive producers are Jami Rice and Sim Sarna.

Research and writing by Devin Ruskin.

Emily Crain did the audio mixing and editing for this episode.

Josh Cooke composed the music and Brian Stefanik created the podcast cover art.

If you’re into true crime podcasts, check out Jami’s podcast MURDERISH.

Visit murderish.com and send us a message if you have information to share regarding our Season 1 case, involving Mary Carole McDonnell, or if you would like to suggest a case for us to cover on the podcast. We’re interested in investigating cases involving women who have committed white collar crimes/scams.

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Gwen Shamblin Lara: “Fall of the Profitable Prophet” | Mini Series E4 Oct 13, 2022

What began as a normal private plane flight with Gwen, Joe and their inner circle of friends turned out to be a short-lived devastating end. With Gwen Shamblin Lara out of the picture, who will take over the reins of Remnant Fellowship?

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Research and writing by Devin Ruskin.

Emily Crain did the audio mixing and editing for this episode.

Josh Cooke composed the music and Brian Stefanik created the podcast cover art.

If you’re into true crime podcasts, check out Jami’s podcast MURDERISH.

Visit murderish.com and send us a message if you have information to share regarding our Season 1 case, involving Mary Carole McDonnell, or if you would like to suggest a case for us to cover on the podcast. We’re interested in investigating cases involving women who have committed white collar crimes/scams.

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Gwen Shamblin Lara: “Parenting to Death” | Mini Series E3 Oct 06, 2022

At Remnant Fellowship, Gwen Shamblin Lara taught members to be completely obedient to their husbands and church leaders, and that their children should also be completely obedient to them. It’s the last point that ultimately led to the death of Remnant Fellowship member, 8-year-old Josef Smith.

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Research and writing by Devin Ruskin.

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Josh Cooke composed the music and Brian Stefanik created the podcast cover art.

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Gwen Shamblin Lara: “Slim for Him” | Mini Series E2 Sep 29, 2022

Before Gwen Shamblin Lara became the all-mighty and adored church leader, dietician, and healer behind the “Weigh Down Workshop,” she was just your average church-going wife married to her average church-going husband. But what happened once she met a new man and decided to throw the last 40 years of her marriage away?

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Executive producers are Jami Rice and Sim Sarna.

Research and writing by Devin Ruskin.

Emily Crain did the audio mixing and editing for this episode.

Josh Cooke composed the music and Brian Stefanik created the podcast cover art.

If you’re into true crime podcasts, check out Jami’s podcast MURDERISH.

Visit murderish.com and send us a message if you have information to share regarding our Season 1 case, involving Mary Carole McDonnell, or if you would like to suggest a case for us to cover on the podcast. We’re interested in investigating cases involving women who have committed white collar crimes/scams.

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Gwen Shamblin Lara: “Weigh, Pray and Obey”| Mini Series E1 Sep 22, 2022

Our second mini series covers dietician turned cult leader, Gwen Shamblin Lara, the woman who started the “Weigh Down Diet” and then created a hypnotic following at her self-made church, Remnant Fellowship. Remnant Fellowship faced accusations of being a cult that promoted child abuse and praying one’s way to being thin. But there is so much more to this bizarre story than just what meets the eye.

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Dirty Money Moves is a collaboration between MURDERISH and Cloud10 Media.

Executive producers are Jami Rice and Sim Sarna.

Research and writing by Devin Ruskin.

Emily Crain did the audio mixing and editing for this episode.

Josh Cooke composed the music and Brian Stefanik created the podcast cover art.

If you’re into true crime podcasts, check out Jami’s podcast MURDERISH.

Visit murderish.com and send us a message if you have information to share regarding our Season 1 case, involving Mary Carole McDonnell, or if you would like to suggest a case for us to cover on the podcast. We’re interested in investigating cases involving women who have committed white collar crimes/scams.

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Jen Shah: "The Real Housewives of Podcasting" with Emily Hanks | Mini Series E5 Sep 15, 2022

This week, host of She Speaks Bravo podcast, Emily Hanks joins Jami to talk about our favorite problematic housewife Jen Shah. Emily and Jami also gush about all of their favorite Bravo shows they hate-watch including Summer House, Below Deck, Flipping Out and more!

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Dirty Money Moves is a collaboration between MURDERISH and Cloud10 Media.

Executive producers are Jami Rice and Sim Sarna.

Research and writing by Devin Ruskin.

Emily Crain did the audio mixing and editing for this episode.

Josh Cooke composed the music and Brian Stefanik created the podcast cover art.

If you’re into true crime podcasts, check out Jami’s podcast MURDERISH.

Visit murderish.com and send us a message if you have information to share regarding our Season 1 case, involving Mary Carole McDonnell, or if you would like to suggest a case for us to cover on the podcast. We’re interested in investigating cases involving women who have committed white collar crimes/scams.

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Jen Shah: “Shah-Shank Redemption” with Ryan Bailey | Mini Series E4 Sep 08, 2022

This week, host of So Bad It’s Good podcast, Ryan Bailey joins Jami to talk about Jen Shah, the self-described Queen Bee and MVP of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Ryan and Jami give updates on Jen Shah’s case, opinionated hot-takes, and reactions to her suddenly pleading guilty after shouting from the rooftops that she was innocent.

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Dirty Money Moves is a collaboration between MURDERISH and Cloud10 Media.

Executive producers are Jami Rice and Sim Sarna.

Research and writing by Devin Ruskin.

Emily Crain did the audio mixing and editing for this episode.

Josh Cooke composed the music and Brian Stefanik created the podcast cover art.

If you’re into true crime podcasts, check out Jami’s podcast MURDERISH.

Visit murderish.com and send us a message if you have information to share regarding our Season 1 case, involving Mary Carole McDonnell, or if you would like to suggest a case for us to cover on the podcast. We’re interested in investigating cases involving women who have committed white collar crimes/scams.

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The McStay Family: “Buried Truths” | MURDERISH Sep 01, 2022

MURDERISH is a true crime podcast that delves into true stories of murder, disappearances and other creepy events. Also featured on the podcast are in-depth interviews with high-profile people in the true crime community. This podcast will take you on a deep-dive journey through interesting cases, beginning the date of the crime and ending with the courtroom verdict.

In this episode, host Jami Rice talks about the abrupt disappearance of the McStay family. When Joseph and Summer McStay, along with their two toddlers, went missing from their California home in February of 2010 no one knew what to think. Several aspects of the investigation left behind a great deal of unanswered questions.

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Jen Shah: “Let’s Make a Deal” | Mini Series E3 Aug 25, 2022

Jen and her first assistant, Stuart Smith, had previously teamed up to scam people by offering fake products and services through their telemarketing company. But now the two are facing over 30 years in prison. How is everything going to shake out at their upcoming trials? And who can they trust going forward?

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Jen Shah: “Federal Shah-ud” | Mini Series E2 Aug 18, 2022

Last week on the Dirty Money Moves mini series, we introduced you to Jen Shah …the self-described Queen Bee of Bravo’s hit reality show, The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City and her #1 assistant, Stuart Smith. But what were Jen and Stuart REALLY up to for the last decade? Their lucrative telemarketing business would eventually get a lot of attention, but not the kind that anyone wants!

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Jen Shah: “TelemarketSCHEME” | Mini Series E1 Aug 11, 2022

Our first mini series covers a well known reality TV star whose lavish lifestyle is prominently featured on Bravo’s hit tv series, The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. If you’re a reality tv fan, you guessed it! We’re diving into Jen Shah, the self-described Queen Bee and MVP of the show. But, as the world saw playout on Season 2 of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, no amount of fur coats and Gucci bags can keep even the Queen Bee safe from the feds.

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Inside Baseball and Jami’s Thoughts | S1 E14 Aug 04, 2022

In this episode of Dirty Money Moves, Jami gives some background information on how the podcast came to be. Plus, she recaps some of her thoughts on the story now that we’ve had a chance to digest all of the information uncovered during Season One of the podcast.

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Introducing: Defense Diaries Jul 26, 2022

Check out Defense Diaries where host, criminal defense attorney Bob Motta as he enters the twisted mind of serial killer John Wayne Gacy through the use of 15 hours of never before heard pre-trial interviews with Gacy and his attorneys as they prepare for the trial of the century.

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Introducing: MURDERISH Jul 21, 2022

MURDERISH is a true crime podcast that delves into true stories of murder, disappearances and other creepy events. Also featured on the podcast are in-depth interviews with high-profile people in the true crime community. This podcast will take you on a deep-dive journey through interesting cases, beginning the date of the crime and ending with the courtroom verdict.

In this episode, host Jami Rice was only 18 years old, about to graduate from high school, when an innocent trip to the grocery store turned into a night she would never forget. She came home to find a stranger in her bedroom.

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Working for a phony heiress: Kevin Barry, formerly worked at Bellum | S1 E13 Jul 14, 2022

In this episode, Jami speaks with Kevin Barry who formerly worked for Bellum Entertainment. Like other former Bellum workers, Kevin began to notice red flags at the company and then he witnessed the “House of Cards” fall. Kevin provided great insight on what it was like to work for a TV production company that was being operated by Mary Carole McDonnell who constantly lied, failed to pay workers, and ultimately caused the demise of Bellum Entertainment. During our conversation, Kevin explains why Mary Carole made his “skin crawl” and also a very cringeworthy moment he endured upon first meeting Dr. Jeffrey Nilles, Mary Carole’s husband.

At the end of this episode, Jami provides an update on the Mary Carole McDonnell story, as well as what’s next for Dirty Money Moves.

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Psychology of a Con Artist: Dr. Shiloh & Dr. Scott, LA Not So Confidential | S1 E12 Jul 07, 2022

In this episode, Jami is joined by Dr. Shiloh and Dr. Scott, Forensic Psychologists and Hosts of LA Not So Confidential podcast. Dr. Shiloh and Dr. Scott broke down topics such as narcissism, psychopathy, machiavellianism and SO much more.

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Comparing Con Artists: Johnathan Walton, Host of Queen of the Con | S1 E11 Jun 30, 2022

In this episode of Dirty Money Moves, Jami is joined by Johnathan Walton, TV Producer and Host of Queen of the Con podcast. Like Dirty Money Moves, Queen of the Con is also a podcast about female con artists. Johnathan’s Season 1 con artist, Mair Smith, shares a lot of similarities with Mary Carole McDonnell …including the fact that both women falsely claimed to be an heiress. The parallels between them are uncanny. You do NOT want to miss this episode.

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Prosecuting White Collar Crimes: Asst. United States Attorney, Catherine Ahn | S1 E10 Jun 23, 2022

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Inside Banc of California: When an heiress turned out to be a con artist | S1 E9 Jun 16, 2022

In this episode of Dirty Money Moves I speak with Gina Mazzolini, the researcher and writer for Dirty Money Moves. I walked Gina through what it was like working at the bank when the Mary Carole debacle happened. Gina and I also discuss Mary Carole’s childhood, professional career in the tv business, some of her shady associates, and how she managed to get her hands on close to $50 million through elaborate scams …and then disappear.

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Inside Bellum Entertainment: Interview with Brian Testa | S1 E8 Jun 09, 2022

In this episode of Dirty Money Moves, we speak to Brian Testa, who previously worked for Mary Carole McDonnell and Bellum Entertainment. Brian shares his experience of working at Bellum and the steps he’s taken to investigate Mary Carole since Bellum came crashing down.

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"Where is She?" | S1 E7 Jun 02, 2022

For the last six weeks we’ve tried to uncover the truth about who Mary Carole McDonnell is, how she was shaped during her childhood, and what factors contributed to the woman she became: a woman with a grandiose self-image; a master manipulator who constantly lied in order to get what she wanted; a woman with NO regard for who she hurt along the way. Mary Carole cared about one thing and one thing only: money. But the main question on everyone’s mind is…where is Mary Carole McDonnell?

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"Let the Lawsuits Begin" | S1 E6 May 26, 2022

In the last episode, we went over all of the loans, merchant agreements, and investments that Mary Carole McDonnell was able to get her hands on, beginning in 2007 and stretching through 2018. So what recourse has there been for all the people and institutions Mary Carole has scammed into loaning her money or investing in her fake family trust? 2017 marked the first year of lawsuits against her. That year at least twenty civil lawsuits were filed against Mary Carole and Bellum Entertainment, ranging from employees seeking unpaid wages, to banks trying to recoup their millions. Every year since, more and more lawsuits have been filed...over fifty in total. But while the lawsuits are rolling in, Mary Carole has never appeared in court for any of them.

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“Fast Cash and Dash” | S1 E5 May 19, 2022

Last episode was all about how Mary Carole McDonnell and her attorney Barry Rothman allegedly worked together to scam Banc of California out of nearly $15 million dollars. And, we found out that it apparently was not their first time pulling this hustle together. To top it all off, Barry unexpectedly died on the evening of March 9th after a dental procedure earlier that day. Many of us at the bank thought there was a chance that Mary Carole may have had something to do with Barry’s death because he knew too much about the alleged scam. His death, while extremely suspicious at first thought, turned out not to be nefarious. In this episode we dive deeper into how and when Mary Carole got her hands on millions of dollars from loans, friends, and colleagues. The amount of money the “heiress” was able to secure through deception is absolutely staggering.

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“Lies and Homemade Pies” | S1 E4 May 12, 2022

In the previous episode of Dirty Money Moves, we learned about Barry Rothman, Mary Carole’s infamous entertainment lawyer and longtime associate. We also learned that he and Mary Carole had something in common…unbelievable financial troubles. Barry also operated a complex network of foreign bank accounts and Panamanian shell companies, which he allegedly used to hide certain assets. This was the person Mary Carole aligned herself with in 2017 as Bellum Entertainment fell apart. She found herself in desperate need of a ton of money to fend off creditors, and Barry was the man she turned to for help. Shockingly, Mary Carole was so brazen, that she baked homemade pies for bank employees and hand delivered them, just before she pulled off the biggest money grab of her crooked career. That, and Barry would be dead before the bank even realized they’d been scammed.

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“The Nastiest Son of a B*tch” | S1 E3 May 05, 2022

In the last episode of Dirty Money Moves, we explained how Mary Carole’s antics were exposed by Channel 2 News. We also described how Mary Carole managed to get her hands on a few million dollars through a “gifting” program connected to her family trust that she claimed was worth millions. By 2017, Mary Carole’s flagship company, Bellum Entertainment, was crumbling. She owed individuals and institutions millions of dollars. But, in the face of mounting lawsuits and creditors breathing down her neck, Mary Carole didn’t seem to flinch. Instead, she got together with her lawyer friend, Barry Rothman, who had a colorful past and ties to one of Hollywood’s most infamous scandals involving pop icon Michael Jackson. The two of them worked out a plan to get even more cash and this time around, Mary Carole was going BIG. Through lies and false documents, Mary Carole shockingly got her hands on almost $15 million from Banc of California. And by the time Mary Carole likely began enjoying the fruit of her multi million dollar swindle, Barry would drop dead before the FBI could even question him about the bank scam.

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"House of Cards" | S1 E2 Apr 28, 2022

In this episode, Mary Carole parlays a television career into the creation of her own flagship business, Bellum Entertainment. Bellum earned apparent success through nationally syndicated true crime shows, but a closer look would reveal unpaid loans, bounced checks, and misclassifying employees as independent contractors to avoid tax responsibilities. Was Bellum the victim of bank fraud, as Mary Carole claimed, or was the success of the company a house of cards? Listen to find out. You won't want to miss this.

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“The Heiress” | S1 E1 Apr 21, 2022

Enter “the heiress,” Mary Carole McDonnell, who managed to hustle Banc of California out of $15 million. But that money grab, as it turns out, was not her first.

In this episode, Jami digs into Mary Carole’s past and discovers a strange career path that was peppered with financial misconduct. Jami explores Mary Carole’s upbringing, the tragic death of her sister, and some of the factors that may have motivated her to reinvent herself on a foundation of lies. If she wasn’t the heiress to the McDonnell Douglas fortune as she claimed, then who was she really? This episode peels back the first layer of that onion, so you don’t want to miss it.

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https://www.nexttv.com/news/exclusive-mcdonnell-departing-raycom-focus-bellum-133160

www.law360.com/insurance-authority/articles/1367864/print?section=insurance-authoriyy/general-libility

https://deadline.com/2014/08/raycom-media-vet-mary-carole-mcdonnell-exiting-to-her-bellum-entertainment-819152/

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