Dirty Money Moves: Women in White Collar Crime

INTRODUCING: Bravo's Most Wanted with Jami Rice & Katie Ginella Jun 01, 2026

In this premiere episode of the new podcast, Bravo’s Most Wanted, hosts Jami Rice and Katie Ginella open up and share details about their lives before they became friends and co-hosts. The ladies answer a few questions submitted by their followers, dive into their personal and professional backgrounds, and also share how they met and became friends. They also get into some Bravo hot topics and give listeners a taste of what they can expect on future episodes.

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Welcome to the FBI’s Most Wanted List (phony heiress update) | Dirty Money Moves S1 E15 Feb 20, 2026

Since we concluded our season 1 investigative series on Mary Carole McDonnell, the phony Hollywood heiress, in July 2022 there haven't been any material updates in her case. It’s been crickets for the past few years until early December 2025 when Mary Carole was added to the FBI’s Most Wanted list. Suddenly, Mary Carole’s case was making headlines with every news outlet you can think of. Jami, host of Dirty Money Moves, began doing some digging to satisfy her curiosity about what may have prompted this action by the FBI. She found something interesting in the Dubai court system. It was a Public Notice of Appeal filed by Jeffrey John Nilles, Mary Carole’s husband. He’d filed an appeal in June 2024 in response to an unfavorable civil judgment against him in Dubai. There were three people named as notified parties to the appeal, one of them being a woman named Thili. A few weeks after finding this information, Jami received a DM from Thili indicating she’d befriended Mary Carole McDonnell and Jeffrey Nilles in Dubai and that they’d attempted to get their hands on her money. Thili agreed to an interview and provided a lot of insight on who Mary Carole McDonnell and Jeffrey Nilles are, and what they’re up to in Dubai.

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“No Apologies” | DMM S7 E9 Jul 11, 2025

Like it or not, Todd and Julie Chrisley are out of prison, way ahead of schedule, thanks to President Trump’s pardon. It seems like the short 28 months they did spend in federal prison didn’t do much to change their narrative, however. Just two days after Todd and Julie’s release from their respective prisons, Todd held a press conference where he proclaimed that he was convicted of something he didn’t do, and that there was a tremendous amount of misconduct by the government during the investigation and trial. This, even though the district court judge who oversaw their trial didn’t buy the Chrisleys’ allegations of prosecutorial misconduct, the jury certainly didn’t hear any proof of it, and the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals also didn’t find that there was misconduct on the government’s part… or on the part of the district court judge who oversaw the trial. The Chrisleys have already done a few sit-down interviews, and have had cameras filming their every move since the moment they exited prison. There’s also a new TV show set to release this year, and hints of others to come. Will viewers be able to see through the lies and manipulation, particularly in the interviews the Chrisleys have done recently? Will Todd and Julie be able to win back their reality TV following and line their pockets with millions as if none of this ever happened, or will America wise up, see through their bullsh*t, and finally send the Chrisleys into obscurity?

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“I Beg Your Pardon?” | DMM S7 E8 Jul 04, 2025

Todd and Julie Chrisley were convicted in June 2022, after a mountain of solid evidence was presented to the jury. The Chrisleys were finally going to be held accountable for their schemes. It’d been a long time coming, especially if you take into consideration the many years Todd and Julie stiffed contractors and vendors along the way, or the homeowners who were scammed after putting their trust in the Chrisleys. The only question that remained was how long would they spend behind bars? I don’t think anyone could have predicted that Todd and his son Grayson would appear on TikTok together just two years after being sent to prison. This was made possible after President Trump stepped in.

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“Chrisleys Don’t Know Best” | DMM S7 E7 Jun 27, 2025

Todd and Julie Chrisley’s reality TV show, “Chrisley Knows Best,” became popular, in part, for their apparent family values. They were often seen on the show trying to teach their children how to be good Christians and live moral, honest lives. But we know that Todd acted one way on the TV show and a whole other way off camera, in a sort of a “do as I say, not as I do” lifestyle. From the vulgar and disturbing things Todd allegedly said and did to numerous employees at his company, to the well-documented threats Todd made to his own daughter when she dared to go against his alleged demands for her to lie about a Georgia Department of Revenue employee, to the allegations of violence leveled against Todd by his ex-wife …Todd Chrisley was a less than stellar example for his kids. Julie may not have been so brash about her moral imperfections, but she did her share of lying and cheating which was also documented in police reports and court documents. Yet, what most of the public knew about the Chrisleys were the life lessons they preached on their TV show. Todd said to his youngest child on one of their episodes “there’s never a right way to do the wrong thing.” It’s RICH of Todd to say this knowing that the episode was filmed after he and Julie were indicted on federal tax evasion and bank fraud charges, and were awaiting trial. If the Chrisleys actually practiced what they preached, perhaps they never would’ve lied to and scammed so many people over the years, let alone be accused of being the ringleaders of a years-long $36,000,000 fraud scheme. But as we’re about to find out, the Chrisley’s don’t seem to think the rules apply to them.

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Research and writing by: Gina Mazzolini

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Todd & Julie Chrisley: “Daddy Douchebag” | S7 E6 Jun 20, 2025

From 2014 to 2017 Todd and Julie Chrisley were riding high on the success of “Chrisley Knows Best.” But fans had no idea about Todd and Julie’s extensive criminal history, lawsuits, or exactly what the bankruptcies entailed because all of those things happened before the Chrisley’s fame, when no one was paying attention. In 2017, however, everyone would be paying attention as that was the year that began the Chrisley family’s eventual fall from grace. Todd appeared in the media spouting tales of government corruption, and proclaiming that he and Julie were the real victims. Todd took to his social media and podcast to personally attack people involved in cases against him. What began in 2017 would be a several-years-long process that culminated in Todd and Julie’s federal indictment in 2019. But would that be enough to shut them up? Or would the Chrisleys continue to shout from the rooftops that they were the real victims in all of this?

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Executive Producers are: Jami Rice and Sim Sarna

Research and writing by: Gina Mazzolini

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Todd & Julie Chrisley: “Bougie and Bankrupt” | S7 E5 Jun 13, 2025

On July 15, 2014, the Chrisley family was in Los Angeles to promote their reality TV show “Chrisley Knows Best.” Though it had only been on air a few months, the show had blown up and made the Chrisleys a household name. What viewers didn’t know was at that very moment, as the Chrisleys walked the red carpet, Todd and Julie were knee-deep in bankruptcy litigation. “Chrisley Knows Best” viewers didn’t seem to be bothered by Todd and Julie’s lies once their multi-million dollar bankruptcies were made public. But, would it matter to viewers if they knew the Chrisleys were actively hiding their TV show earnings from the IRS and failing to pay state taxes in order to live lavishly at the expense of Georgia taxpayers? Or would it all be seen as just another controversy to add to the shit show that made the Chrisleys so popular?

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Research and writing by: Gina Mazzolini

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Todd & Julie Chrisley: “D!CK-notized” | S7 E4 Jun 06, 2025

It’s no secret that Todd Chrisley’s eccentric and flamboyant personality, along with his enthusiasm for fashion and decorating has had people questioning his sexuality for years. In December 2022, just a few weeks after his sentencing for federal fraud convictions, Todd addressed allegations about his sexual activity. The allegations came straight from the witness stand during Todd’s federal trial by a man named Mark Braddock who claimed the two of them had a love affair. Todd said it was nothing more than wishful thinking on Mark’s part, and that Mark was basically not hot enough for him. Taking things a step further, Todd crassly joked to his son Chase, on his podcast, that he understood how having sex with him could drive a person crazy because “there have been many who have been DICK-notized by your daddy.”

In this episode, we find out who Mark Braddock is and why Todd has so much disdain for him. We take a look at Todd and Julie’s early business ventures, some questionable business practices, and a lot of court room drama.

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Todd & Julie Chrisley: “HR Nightmare” | S7 E3 May 30, 2025

There have been many episodes of “Chrisley Knows Best” where Todd Chrisley makes a crass sexual comment and it’s played off as being just another silly, wacky thing Todd says. Not everyone finds Todd’s behavior funny, though. Before TV cameras followed his every move, there were severe allegations made about Todd’s abusive, degrading, and sexually charged comments in the workplace. Todd’s TV persona might come off as over-the-top and endearing, but some of his former employees would disagree when it came to their experiences with Todd in real life. More than one sexual harassment and hostile work environment lawsuit was filed against Todd Chrisley by his former employees, and the claims made are disturbing. Did they just misunderstand the quirky, southern “charm” that Todd’s become synonymous with? Or, could Todd’s need to be the center of attention, and the way he goes about doing it, be indicative of a much deeper issue?

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Executive Producers are: Jami Rice and Sim Sarna

Research and writing by: Gina Mazzolini

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Todd & Julie Chrisley: “The Apple Doesn’t Fall Far” | S7 E2 May 23, 2025

Todd and Julie Chrisley’s criminal actions are well documented in court records. What we don’t know is the “why.” Why’d they choose to enter into a life of crime? Today, experts tend to agree that criminal behavior isn’t decided by just one factor, but rather a complex combination of both the environment and a person’s biology. A person learns behavior from their environment, but it’s their genes, their family biology, that determines how they learn it. While we can never truly know the “why” behind Julie and Todd Chrisley’s criminal behavior over the years, especially when they have yet to admit any wrongdoing, we can take a look at some of the factors that may have had an impact on their choices and behavior.

Even though Todd and Julie went to great lengths to keep their histories out of the public eye, a deep dive into their family trees has revealed a very interesting and clear pattern of behaviors that might help to explain their eventual fall from grace. Turns out, the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree, at least when it comes to Todd.

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Research and writing by: Gina Mazzolini

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Todd & Julie Chrisley: “Reality Check” | S7 E1 May 16, 2025

If you’ve been a reality TV fan over the last 10 years, you likely know the names Todd and Julie Chrisley. The couple starred in the wildly popular reality TV show “Chrisley Knows Best.” The show, which aired on the USA Network, chronicled the exceptionally lavish lives of Todd, the overbearing and devoted family man, and his former beauty queen wife, Julie, along with their equally quirky family. In each episode, Todd and Julie flaunted their millionaire lifestyle for all of America to see: The multi-million dollar mansions across several states, luxury cars, designer clothing and jewelry, and their apparently hugely successful businesses. Not surprisingly, “Chrisley Knows Best” had a large Christian following. A big part of the show centered around Todd and Julie’s unwavering faith in God.

In 2022, when cameras followed the “power couple” as they exited from a downtown Atlanta Federal Courthouse after being convicted on multiple fraud charges, it left the public completely stunned. How could this popular, God-fearing, Christian family with hearts of gold end up in this situation? Fans of the Chrisleys had no idea that the reality TV stars had been pulling some shady antics dating back well over a decade, way before the TV show aired. It all begs the question: once their TV personas are stripped away, who are the REAL Todd and Julie Chrisley? Where did they come from, and what happened throughout the course of their lives to lead them to this extremely public, very steep fall from grace?

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Research and writing by: Gina Mazzolini

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Melissa Caddick: “DJ No Remorse” | S6 E5 Apr 25, 2025

On December 5, 2020, Sydney Morning Herald reporter Kate Mclymont pulled back the curtain on Melissa Caddick and alerted her investors to just how significant Melissa’s scams were. Authorities were tasked with recovering the money Melissa had stolen from her clients. As the mystery of the missing millions grew larger, angry investors wanted answers. Authorities quickly turned their attention to Melissa’s husband, Anthony Koletti, whose bizarre behavior became almost as big as the news of Melissa’s long-standing scams. His behavior in the following weeks would grow even weirder as he began blaming everyone but himself for his new, more humble lifestyle. Experts weigh in on the mystery of Melissa Caddick. Could she have hacked off her own foot?

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Executive Producers are: Jami Rice and Sim Sarna

Research and writing by: Zach Selwyn

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Melissa Caddick: “The Devil is Exposed at the Dentist” | S6 E4 Apr 18, 2025

After cheating her way into becoming a trusted financial advisor, Melissa Caddick proceeded to rip off her clients. Even her own parents weren’t safe from Melissa’s greed. In this episode, we’ll get to the moment when Melissa’s schemes were uncovered, and focus on what ultimately led authorities to investigate her business dealings. We’re pulling back the curtain on one of the most successful female con artists in Australia’s history.

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Melissa Caddick: “Bottom Shelf Bernie Madoff” | S6 E3 Apr 10, 2025

Melissa Caddick appeared to be one of Australia’s most successful private investors …jet-setting around the world on private planes while draped in designer clothing. She’d graced magazine covers and was considered to be one of the wealthiest and most trusted financial advisors in the country.

Then, following a federal raid on her multi-million dollar home in Sydney, Australia in November 2020, Melissa disappeared. But long before her case went viral, Melissa was excited to start a new life. After being caught cheating with another man in Paris in 2011, Melissa divorced her first husband, Tony Caddick, and was ready to begin anew with a flush bank account.

Melissa moved back to Sydney with the cash she drained from her and her ex-husband’s shared bank account and began a relationship with her former hairdresser, a man named Anthony Koletti. Once Melissa was back in her home country, it was full speed ahead. Melissa wanted it all, and nobody could stop her from getting what she wanted …even if it meant draining her own parents of everything they’d worked hard for.

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Melissa Caddick: “Origins of a Con Woman” | S6 E2 Apr 03, 2025

Australian con woman Melissa Caddick's sudden disappearance in November 2020 following a federal raid on her house sparked hundreds of theories about her whereabouts. Many believed Melissa had escaped with her money and gone into hiding. Others thought she’d been abducted and suspects ranged from angry investors to her ex-husband, Tony Caddick. Then there were the conspiracy theories. When Melissa’s severed foot showed up on a beach over 300 miles from the cliffs near her house, many people began to question if she severed her own foot and used it as a distraction to escape with the tens of millions of dollars she’d defrauded friends and family out of over the past eight years.

While the various theories about Melissa’s disappearance were a fascinating topic of discussion, people also wondered how one goes from a lower to middle class Australian girl with very little education, to a world class con artist? In this episode of Dirty Money Moves, we’ll take a look at the origin stories of Melissa Caddick‘s fraud, and it all began with simple white lies she put on her résumé …along with a sprinkling of confidence after getting away with smaller crimes which only emboldened her to go bigger.

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Melissa Caddick: “Something is aFOOT” | S6 E1 Mar 28, 2025

On February 21, 2021, a grizzly discovery was made on Bournda Beach on the southern coast of New South Wales, Australia. A designer athletic shoe washed up on the beach. Inside of it, was a decomposing foot. After taking DNA samples from family members of missing persons in the area, the shoe and samples matched with a woman named Melissa Caddick, a 49-year-year old who’d been missing for three months following the raid of her home by the Australian Securities and Investments Commission. Initially, Caddick was being investigated for her part as the ringleader of an insider trading investigation, but authorities soon discovered her white collar schemes went much deeper. It appeared that Melissa had died by suicide, perhaps distraught over facing years in prison. Then, questions began to arise and suspicion fell on Melissa’s husband, Anthony Koletti. Why’d he wait almost two days to report his wife missing?

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Helen Golay & Olga Rutterschmidt: “The Black Widow Trial” | S5 E5 Mar 21, 2025

Fred Downie, the elderly man who’d moved to Southern California to live out the rest of his years under the care of Helen Golay and Olga Rutterschmidt, had died under mysterious circumstances. Even so, his death was ruled an accident and there was nothing to stop a man from giving his fortune away. Although Fred’s case was off the table, in March 2008, the Black Widows were going on trial for the murders of Paul Vados and Kenneth McDavid.

Prosecutors felt fairly confident in their case. After all, they’d linked Helen and Olga to the crimes in more than one way. Though, their case was largely built on circumstantial evidence. Confident or not, the state likely didn’t see the defense's strategy coming. Helen’s attorney was about to tell the jury who REALLY killed Kenneth McDavid, and it wasn’t going to be Helen or Olga. Let’s just say it was Helen-adjacent.

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Presenting: KILLER MINDS Mar 17, 2025

Formerly known as Mind of A Serial Killer, Killer Minds takes you deep into the psychology of history’s most chilling murderers—from infamous serial killers to ruthless cult leaders, deadly exes, and terrifying spree killers. Every Monday and Thursday, hosts Vanessa Richardson and Dr. Tristin Engels, a Clinical and Forensic Psychologist, blend gripping true crime storytelling with expert psychological analysis to uncover what drives people to kill. From the calculated minds of serial killers like Jeffrey Dahmer and Ted Bundy to crimes of passion and cold-blooded murders, Killer Minds goes beyond the headlines to explore the twisted psychology behind the crimes. What fuels their darkness? How do their minds work? And most hauntingly—could they have been stopped?

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Helen Golay & Olga Rutterschmidt: “Black Widows” | S5 E4 Mar 13, 2025

Following their 2006 arrest for mail and wire fraud, the LAPD and the FBI continued trying to build a murder case against Helen Golay and Olga Rutterschmidt. They’d found some evidence during raids on the women’s homes, but everything collected up until that point still wasn’t enough to build a murder case. The FBI continued trying to find anything to tie Helen and Olga to Paul Vados’s and Kenneth McDavid’s death.

Soon, investigators pieced things together and found themselves in a position to charge the women with murder. It all came down to rubber stamps, a Post-it note, and evidence found on the undercarriage of the Mercury Sable seen in the surveillance footage on the day Kenneth McDavid was killed. The Black Widows were headed for trial, and spectators were in for a wild ride.

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Helen Golay & Olga Rutterschmidt: “Fractured Friendship” | S5 E3 Mar 07, 2025

In 2006, over a year after unhoused man Kenneth McDavid was found run down in a back alley in Westwood, California, insurance investigator Ed Webster had unearthed some interesting information. Ed brought his investigation findings to the LAPD, who began surveilling Helen Golay and Olga Rutterschmidt. Soon, the FBI was brought in. They summoned the women's bank records and raided their homes, which resulted in a mountain of evidence that helped authorities begin to unravel the true nature of Helen and Olga’s deadly business dealings.

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Helen Golay & Olga Rutterschmidt: “New Targets” | S5 E2 Feb 27, 2025

In 2002, Helen Golay and Olga Rutterschmidt were riding high following their first successful life insurance scam. Before the women set their sights on their next victim, Kenneth McDavid, there was another scheme brewing. This one, developing across the country, and involving an elderly man named Fred Downie. At 96-years-old, this widowed New Englander owned a house on Cape Cod, and somehow befriended a young woman named Kecia Golay, Helen Golay’s youngest daughter.

Kecia soon convinced Fred to move to Southern California, where her mother owned several properties. Fred Downie agreed and would indeed find his place in the sun, though only for a short time. He’d write his niece Mildred letters about the glory of west coast living. As the months rolled by, however, the letters got more despondent. And then, the letters stopped. Soon, Mildred would learn that Fred was dead.

Unfortunately for Helen and Olga, their claim on an insurance policy for Kenneth McDavid landed on the desk of Ed Webster, a detail-oriented insurance investigator who previously worked as a private eye. And Ed had questions. Soon, the LAPD got involved. Through Kenneth McDavid’s case, they learned about Fred Downie’s case which only raised more questions. Why was 97-year-old Fred Downie in the middle of the road, unattended, when he was struck by a car? And why was he carrying funeral instructions on him when he died?

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Helen Golay & Olga Rutterschmidt: “Friends Who Fraud Together” | S5 E1 Feb 20, 2025

On June 21, 2005, a 50-year-old unhoused man named Kenneth McDavid was left for dead in a back alley just off of Westwood Boulevard in Los Angeles. Police believed that he’d been the victim of a hit-and-run. After a distant female cousin came forth claiming to be Kenneth’s only living relative, the case was closed and the cause of death was listed as “unknown.”

When a New York insurance claims department employee took note of Kenneth’s case, he became aware of two fairly substantial life insurance policies that had been taken out on the man. The beneficiaries of Kenneth’s life insurance policies were two 70-something women named Helen Golay and Olga Rutterschmid, a duo who were known around town as fairly regular volunteers at the Hollywood Presbyterian Church. As law enforcement continued investigating Kenneth’s case they learned his death was just the tip of the iceberg. Eventually, a much deeper and shocking mystery would be unravaled. And the two sweet, 70-something seniors who’d been helping vulnerable people at the church …they were just devils in disguise.

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Samantha Azzopardi: “The Last Scam, for Now” | S4 E5 Feb 13, 2025

A few months after Samantha Azzopardi was sentenced to three years of Community Corrections Order following her latest fake identity scam, where she claimed to be a pregnant 15-year-old victim of sexual abuse, she answered an advertisement placed by a lawyer in Sydney named Theresa Power. Theresa needed a nanny for her young daughter and “Maya Malicka” answered the call. Maya claimed to be 19, Polish, and have tons of experience with kids. Theresa became convinced Maya was legitimate, and hired her as a nanny. The gig with Theresa Power wouldn’t last long, but Samantha had one more alias she wanted to attempt before settling in again as a nanny for a family.

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Samantha Azzopardi: "Using Kids for Cons" | S4 E4 Feb 06, 2025

Samantha Azzopardi’s latest alias, a 13-year-old named Harper Hart, had convinced a foster family to take her in while living in Sydney. But, “Harper’s” stories of being in the witness protection program alerted officials, who then sought to confirm her identity. For weeks, they found nothing and Harper remained silent. Then, a colleague at the police station casually brought up the case of the GPO Girl in Dublin, and how Samantha Azzopardi’s and Harper Hart’s stories sounded similar.

They compared Harper and Samantha’s photographs and saw a small resemblance, but Harper looked 13, and the chance that Samantha, who was 28 at the time, could pass for 13 seemed very unlikely. Then, they retrieved some of Harper's homework from school and found Samantha’s fingerprints all over the papers. Samantha was exposed yet again, but this wouldn’t stop her from ramping up the devious nature of her crimes. This time, she’d involved children in a way that she never had before.

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Samantha Azzopardi: “Faux Pair” | S4 E3 Jan 31, 2025

Samantha Azzopardi had been living under the alias “Emily,” a 14-year-old gymnast from Russia, when she convinced her friend Hope’s family to adopt her. In this instance, however, her story got much darker than anything else Samantha had ever presented.

According to Hope, Emily claimed that she was severely traumatized by a murder-suicide in her family. Hope’s family believed her, and took her in for an undisclosed amount of time. But, when Hope’s family tried to enroll Emily in high school, school authorities raised questions about her birth certificate. Samantha would eventually move on to a whole new identity, and brainwash an innocent young backpacker who continues to be traumatized by the experience today.

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Samantha Azzopardi: “The Grifter Goes to Church” | S4 E2 Jan 23, 2025

When a young girl was found distraught and non-communicative in the streets of Dublin in 2013, it kicked off one of Ireland’s biggest mysteries. After the Dublin police had exhausted all of their options, they got permission to release a photo of the girl to the media in hopes of finding out her true identity. When Garda eventually did, they discovered she wasn’t a 14-year-old as initially expected. She was 25-year-old Australian con woman, Samantha Azzopardi.

As Samantha’s story went global, others began to contact Dublin authorities with tales of how she’d deceived them as well. Irish authorities grappled with how to process Samantha. Technically, she hadn’t committed any crime, or filed any false claims …but she’d wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars in Government money and countless hours of time.

How would authorities decide what to do with Samantha? And what exactly were her goals in pretending to be a distraught teenage girl in a country 29 hours away from her home in Australia? And what other false identities had she been living under for the past ten years?

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Introducing: "Mind of a Serial Killer " Jan 20, 2025

What makes a serial killer? Mind of a Serial Killer takes you deep into the twisted minds of history’s most notorious serial killers. Every Monday, hosts Vanessa Richardson and Dr. Tristin Engels, a Clinical and Forensic Psychologist, combines gripping true crime storytelling with expert psychological analysis to answer the question - what makes a serial killer? From Jeffrey Dahmer to Ted Bundy, explore not only their chilling crimes but the dark psychology behind them. Follow Mind of a Serial Killerwherever you get your podcasts!

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Samantha Azzopardi: “The GPO Girl” | S4 E1 Jan 16, 2025

In October 2013, two police officers in Dublin, Ireland came across a disheveled, emaciated and distressed teenage girl wandering around by herself outside the General Post Office. She was unable to speak, using only primitive sign language to show her age. From what the officers could translate, the girl indicated that she was 14-years-old.

Child welfare authorities took her to a nearby children’s hospital while trying to figure out who she was. As The Garda looked into uncovering the young girl’s identity, local media began speculating about possible sex trafficking as the country-wide interest in her case grew.

Who was this young girl? Where was her family? What was her name? When Irish authorities uncovered the truth, it turned out the young girl was not a young girl after all. She was a 25-year-old Australian con woman named Samantha Azzopardi, and this incident was not the first (or the last) time she’d convinced people to shower her with care and attention by assuming a false identity. In fact, Samantha had been doing this for most of her adult life. As interest in this case grew, so did the stories of the dozens of people she’d de-frauded across three continents. To this day, Samantha’s motive for doing all of this isn’t exactly clear.

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"The Heiress Who Hu$tled Hollywood” Jan 02, 2025

While Jami takes time off from recording Dirty Money Moves during the Holidays, we’re releasing an episode of her other podcast, Lipstick & Lies. In this episode of Lipstick & Lies, Jami walks co-host Melissa Moore through the topic of our very first season of Dirty Money Moves, the case of Mary Carole McDonnell -“The Heiress Who Hu$tled Hollywood.”

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"Hollywood Ending?" | S3.5 E4 Dec 26, 2024

It’s been over two years since Elisabeth Finch took her leave of absence from the “Grey’s Anatomy” writer’s room. Once she realized she wouldn’t be getting rehired, and that her web of lies had spun violently out of control, she returned to the same Arizona treatment center where she first met her now ex-wife Jennifer Beyer. Over six months after returning to the treatment center, Elisabeth sat down with Peter Kiefer, the same interviewer from The Ankler who initially broke the Finch story. Elisabeth came clean and admitted lying about her cancer diagnosis. It was an article that Hollywood had been waiting to read. But in true Elisabeth Finch fashion, the disgraced writer found a way to hold on to some of her falsehoods and even hint that she should be given a second chance. Will Elisabeth’s story have a Hollywood ending, or were her lies the nail in career’s coffin?

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"Beyer’s Remorse" | S3.5 E3 Dec 19, 2024

“Grey’s Anatomy” star writer and producer Elisabeth Finch was just confronted by her new wife, Jennifer Beyer, about her supposed cancer claims. A former registered nurse, Jennifer noticed that Elisabeth didn’t seem to have a port scar for chemotherapy treatments. She’d seen photos of Elisabeth during chemotherapy with a bald head, but also with full eyebrows and eyelashes …something she’d never witnessed during her nursing career. Jennifer had also taken Elisabeth to a doctor who claimed she had two perfectly working kidneys. Not to mention, the infamous Tree of Life Synagogue incident, the traumatic event that sent Elisabeth to the Arizona treatment center in the first place, may have also been a lie.

As Elisabeth shrugged off questions, hiding behind the walls of “triggering” claims, Jennifer demanded that she tell her the truth about what was truly taking place. Which brings us to the third part of the Elisabeth Finch story. With her wife growing suspicious, what will Elisabeth be willing to admit to keep her marriage, lies and career in place?

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"Jo Mama" | S3.5 E2 Dec 12, 2024

“Grey’s Anatomy” star writer and producer Elisabeth Finch was apparently going through a lot in the middle of 2019. She remained on top at Grey’s, becoming the de facto writer for any episode dealing with cancer as a subject matter, but she just couldn’t seem to catch a break in her personal life. She claimed she’d lost a kidney to cancer and said she’d been forced to abort a fetus in the early stages of pregnancy due to complications with her chemotherapy. Her latest traumatic experience was dealing with the awful Tree of Life Synagogue massacre in Pittsburgh, the city where she once attended college. According to Elisabeth, she was there one day after the attack helping clean up the dead remains of her close friend.

But now, as the new season of “Grey’s Anatomy’s” was in early preparation, Elisabeth decided that the PTSD from the synagogue incident was too much for her to handle. She asked for a leave of absence to go into a trauma treatment center in Arizona, where she checked in under the name “Jo,” which was also the name of a character that Elisabeth Finch had been researching for a storyline on “Grey’s Anatomy.” She settled into her first few days of therapy, and that’s when she met a woman in her process group named Jennifer Beyer, the woman she fell in love with who will ultimately be responsible for Elisabeth’s catastrophic downfall.

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"Grey's Anatomy Grifter" | S3.5 E1 Dec 05, 2024

Hollywood writer and TV producer Elisabeth Finch seemed to have it all. After breaking through as a staff writer on the shows “True Blood” and “The Vampire Diaries” at a fairly young age, she was hired at her favorite TV show “Grey's Anatomy.” She got the gig after Shonda Rhimes was handed an article that Elisabeth had written for Elle Magazine about her devastating battle with a rare form of bone cancer known as Chondrosarcoma. That piece garnered Elisabeth all sorts of attention and her wishes came true when she joined the “Grey’s Anatomy” staff - eventually rising to the rank of co-executive producer. Elisabeth made a mark on the narrative by infusing her writing with the harrowing details of her own cancer battles. The only issue was, Elisabeth never had cancer.

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S3 E10: “Scam Chat with Drinking the Koolaid” - Part 2 Nov 21, 2024

In this two-part episode of Dirty Money Moves Jami brings on the hosts of hit podcast, Drinking the Koolaid, Amanda Goodness and Cassidy Liston. The ladies discuss all things scammy, true crime, and reality tv. Cassidy shares her experience eating at Tracii Hustona’s restaurant, Breakfast Bitch while Amanda makes spot-on comparisons between some of reality tv’s biggest villains and Tracii Hutsona.

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S3 E9: “Scam Chat with Drinking the Koolaid” - Part 1 Nov 14, 2024

In this two-part episode of Dirty Money Moves Jami brings on the hosts of hit podcast, Drinking the Koolaid, Amanda Goodness and Cassidy Liston. The ladies discuss all things scammy, true crime, and reality tv. Cassidy shares her experience eating at Tracii Hustona’s restaurant, Breakfast Bitch while Amanda makes spot-on comparisons between some of reality tv’s biggest villains and Tracii Hutsona.

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S3 E8: Debbie Lindstrom: "Sister of a Scammer" Nov 07, 2024

In this eye-opening episode of Dirty Money Moves Jami interviews Debbie Lindstrom, sister of Tracii Hutsona. Join us as Debbie provides insight on her childhood and potential early signs of who Tracii would become as an adult. With a professional background in Psychology, Debbie sheds light on the psychological elements that may be at play in her sister’s story. Debbie also shares what it was like to come from a narcissistic family and the impact of her being scapegoated. During this insightful conversation, Jami draws a parallel from Debbie’s familial experience to that of the Menendez family. The insights Debbie provided during this interview are very illuminating and helpful in understanding more about Tracii Hutsona and her criminal behavior.

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S3 E7: Loriann Hart: “Friends with a Felon” Oct 24, 2024

In this episode Jami interviews Loriann Hart, a former close friend of Tracii Hutsona’s for many years. When it seemed Tracii and her family might be without housing, Loriann allowed them to live in her palatial guest house for free. According to Loriann, Tracii repaid the generous favor by inviting questionable guests over to the home and attempting to seduce Loriann’s then husband. Unaware of Tracii’s criminal past, Loriann grew incredibly close to the convicted felon who was a master of manipulation. Loriann shares her experience being a close friend of Tracii’s and how it all ended after years of lies and manipulation.

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S3 E6: “I’ll Be Back B*tches” Oct 17, 2024

In February 2023, Tracii Hutsona was sentenced to 51 months in Federal Prison for her crimes against Joumana Kidd, and given until April 13th to voluntarily turn herself in to the US Marshals. She ended up turning herself in on March 20th, about a month early, to the prison camp at FCI Phoenix. At first glance, it might seem that Tracii was eager to take responsibility for her actions and start serving her well deserved sentence.

In this week’s episode, we’ll wrap up this story by bringing you up to speed on where things stand today. I’ll walk you through the REAL reasons Tracii turned herself in early. We’ll take a look at Tracii’s first-hand account of life in federal prison through her blog, and we’ll cover the different motions she filed in the hopes of reducing her time. Will this story end with Tracii serving out her 51 month punishment as the Court intended? Or, will she manage to find a workaround and get her sentence reduced?

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S3 E5: “B*tch Behind Bars” Oct 10, 2024

On July 17, 2019, The Tonight Show starring Jimmy Fallon aired on NBC. Four minutes into Jimmy’s opening monologue, he made reference to a real-life lawsuit that seemed too ridiculous to be true: the owners of a Miami restaurant, called Bacon Bitch, were suing the owners of a San Diego restaurant called Breakfast Bitch. He joked that it would be the first case ever where the judge would say “how do you bitches plead?” The live audience erupted in laughter at the sheer absurdity of it. But, in reality, the situation wasn’t funny at all. The owner of Bacon Bitch, Chris Viso, was suing Tracii Hutsona for trademark infringement. While the whole situation might have seemed insignificant to most, it was yet another example of Tracii taking something that didn’t belong to her. The restaurants were getting national attention thanks to Jimmy Fallon, but no one knew the extent of the violations, the decades of fraud and thievery Tracii had under her belt. Not to mention the fact she was actively stealing over a million dollars from Joumana Kidd, some of which was even used to open Breakfast Bitch. It would still be another year and a half before Tracii was arrested for any of that. By that time, she will have already opened a second restaurant, been sued at least twice, and moved from one multi million dollar home to the next. Infuriatingly, even after she was arrested, Tracii continued to live a consequence-free lifestyle for years, flaunting herself and her business all over social media as if nothing had happened.

In this week’s episode we’ll talk about how Breakfast Bitch came to be, and we’ll weave through all the ridiculous things Tracii did after she was arrested, right up to her sentencing. Would she ever be able to accept responsibility for her actions? Or, in the ultimate act of manipulation, would she attempt to avoid accountability by shifting the blame onto Joumana Kidd? Spoiler alert: it’s the latter!

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S3 E4: “Smoke and Mirrors” Oct 04, 2024

In January 2007 NBA star point guard for the New Jersey Nets, Jason Kidd, filed for divorce from his wife: actress and journalist Joumana Kidd. What followed was an extremely messy, and very public end to their 10 year marriage. Fast forward 8 years to 2015, Joumana decided it was a good time to move back to her home state of California. As she was preparing to go to Los Angeles to do some house hunting, she got a phone call from her doctor that would completely change her life in more ways than one. Joumana had breast cancer and would need to undergo surgery and radiation. Little did Joumana know, this terrifying diagnosis would also be an invitation for Tracii Hutsona to casually waltz into her life.

In this week’s episode, I’ll walk you through the tangled web of reality and fiction Tracii weaved in an attempt to propel herself back into the spotlight of fame and fortune that she’d been chasing since childhood …or at least the illusion of it. From her VIP concierge company, to a YouTube reality show, to social media posts dripping with diamonds, and even a foray into the restaurant business, Tracii pulled out all the stops this time. Even after getting caught scamming, again, she’d still managed to keep it all going for years. How many people would Tracii steal from and exploit before finally being held accountable? And how could she borrow her way into a single mother’s life, while she battled breast cancer, and rip her off for millions?

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S3 E3: “With Friends Like These …” Sep 26, 2024

It’s September 2008 and Tracii Hutsona has been out on bond for the last 10 months. By this time, the original indictment has been supersededtwice, adding numerous charges for the schemes she pulled at several staffing agencies. Tracii has also been evicted from her $1.5 million Orange County, CA home for failing to pay over $30,000 in rent, but Jacqueline Ellman didn’t know any of this. If she had, she probably would’ve never become close friends with Tracii. Now, Jacqueline was holding the bill for a credit card in her name that she’d never seen before, and she had a sneaking suspicion Tracii had something to do with it. She sent Tracii a text message asking her about it. Tracii called back and tearfully admitted to the fraud, telling Jacqueline that she had a problem, but she was trying to be better. In reality, Tracii had opened not one, butTWO cards in Jacqueline's name, andused her existing cards without permission. She also attempted to rent an apartment in her so-called friend’s name. Unbelievably, Jacqueline wasn’t even the only “friend” that Tracii was taking advantage of during this time.

In this week’s episode we’ll explore how, even though Tracii touted herself as an advocate for women and social justice, it was women whom she chose to victimize, women who were close friends, whom she exploited at seemingly every turn. We’ll also follow Tracii through another round of federal charges, sentencing, and prison time. Will she emerge a changed and rehabilitated woman? Or, will she continue her pattern of manipulating anyone who dared offer her a little bit of grace?

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S3 E2: “Not a Basic B*tch” Sep 19, 2024

Tracii Hutsona is so persuasive that she was able to convince a car dealership that she needed an expensive, fancy car for Arnold Schwarzenegger to drive. As a testament to her level of con artistry, she got the car! Tracii, however, maintains that this story isn’t true, that stories about her criminal history are merely exaggerations to make her look bad. She’s also highly offended at being labeled a con artist, even though the judge who sentenced her in 2023 called her a serial con artist. Tracii worked tirelessly to change the perspective and shift blame in order to keep her schemes going. In this episode, we take a look at some of Tracii’s schemes from the last 30 plus years, and how she carried on a double life in order to constantly project an image of wealth and success, seemingly without regard for how her actions affected everyone around her. We’ll find out if what Tracii says has any merit: has her past been sensationalized in order to make her look bad? Or, is she trying to downplay her criminal history in an effort to control the narrative in a classic con artist move?

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S3 E1: “B*tch in Handcuffs” Sep 12, 2024

It’s early February, 2021 in Phoenix Arizona. Federal agents have been on the hunt for Tracii Hutsona, a woman wanted on charges of wire fraud and aggravated identity theft for stealing more than $1 million from her cancer-stricken, single mother of three employer. Tracii’s motive: she needed funding for her lavish lifestyle. Agents find Tracci at her restaurant “Breakfast Bitch.” She tried to run but the chase was short-lived. News cameras captured the aftermath of the arrest with Tracii locked in handcuffs as she stood outside of her company car. Tracii’s arrest shocked many of her friends and employees, who had no idea Tracii had spent much of the previous 30 years in and out of prison or on probation or parole for stealing and spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to support a lavish lifestyle she’d been chasing her entire life. She’d racked up a slew of scams and schemes, leaving a trail of victims in her wake. Tracii has a magnetic personality and is easy to like, but hidden underneath her million dollar smile lies a remarkable ability to persuade those around her to believe anything she needs them to. Her own family, her friends, and her victims have all described Tracii as a pathological liar; a lifelong con artist who is exceptionally good at what she does. So what happened in the course of Tracii’s life to lead her to this one very public moment, handcuffed on the Phoenix evening news for all to see? How does someone become a refined con artist …an exemplary liar? Is it an innate ability …or something that’s learned throughout a lifetime? Or …maybe it’s a little bit of both?

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TRAILER | Dirty Money Moves: Women in White Collar Crime Sep 05, 2024

Dirty Money Moves: Women in White Collar Crime is BACK! In Season 3, we’re deep diving into the case involving Tracii Hutsona, a self-described “winner” who appeared to have it all: successful businesses, multimillion dollar mansions, luxury cars, and plenty of cash to spend on high end jewelry and vacations. She’s an intriguing woman who’s had a lengthy acting and modeling career, one that saw her on the cover of several major magazines, including Italian Vogue. She also had alleged romantic ties to Keanu Reeves. But the facts of Tracii’s life that make her so intriguing, are also the facts we’re checking and not much about Tracii seems to be real, except maybe her abilities as a con artist. Most recently, she made headlines for embezzling more than $1 million from Joumana Kidd, actress and ex wife of NBA star Jason Kidd, via Tracii’s luxury concierge business. Tracii opened a restaurant in San Diego, fittingly called “Breakfast Bitch,” which was funded, in part, by Joumana’s money. These recent crimes may have grabbed all the media attention, but they are by no means Tracii’s first run-ins with the law. She’s had a long history of schemes, going back 30 years. Yet, the most shocking thing about Tracii isn't the dollar amount she’s managed to steal over the years, but the way in which she victimizes the people closest to her, over and over again. This is the story of an extremely charismatic woman who can manipulate even the most savvy person into believing exactly what she needs them to, all in the pursuit of a lifestyle of luxury, glamor, and self-indulgence. By the end of this season, you might be surprised as to how all of this chaos plays out.

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Dr. Joni Johnston: "Psychology of a Scammer" | S2 E9 Feb 09, 2023

This week, Jami Rice speaks with Dr. Joni E. Johnston, a licensed clinical and forensic psychologist, author and private investigator. Together, they discuss the Tara Lee adoption scam case as well as Tara’s intense lack of empathy and toxic manipulation of adoptive parents and birth parents.

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Teresa Matheny: "Adoption Scam Survivor" | S2 E8 Feb 02, 2023

This week, Jami Rice speaks with Teresa Matheny, a survivor of Tara Lee’s adoption scandal. Teresa opened up about all of the hoops she had to jump through to get the baby she was promised from Tara Lee, which almost didn’t happen. She also walks Jami through how she met Tara, and how she discovered that she was a con artist running adoption scams.

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Talia Goetting & Tonya Corrado: "Taking Down a Scammer" | S2 E7 Jan 26, 2023

Attorneys Talia Goetting & Tonya Corrado worked with Tara for a time. They were actually about to go into business with her when everything came to a screeching halt. Talia and Tonya began noticing red flags, and soon enough, they were working with the FBI to take Tara down.

In this episode, you’ll hear directly from Talia and Tonya about their experience working with Tara, and how everything went down once they became suspicious of her.

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“Time For Change” | S2 E6 Jan 19, 2023

Tara Lee had the opportunity to quietly do her prison time and follow through on the court’s orders, but she just couldn’t do it. Tara began making statements that she was innocent; she didn’t complete the victim impact statement recordings as ordered by the court; and she began filing appeals to have her conviction vacated, all of which kept her firmly in the Detroit headlines.

So, where does Tara’s case stand now? Have Tara’s victims been able to move on since her incarceration? Is there anything people who are looking to adopt can do to protect themselves from falling victim to predators like Tara? What even drives someone to behave the way Tara did?

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“The Worst Case” | S2 E5 Jan 12, 2023

Tara Lee’s sentence hearing was attended by dozens of her victims, many of whom traveled great distances to see her be punished. They sobbed while giving statements to the court about how Tara hurt them. Some people even addressed Tara directly.

It wasn’t only adoptive families speaking, birth mothers and fathers, people who had their children taken from them without their consent all made their voices heard. Victim statements were given for over six hours, each person demanding justice for their broken families. Tara even spoke to the court, but would the judge be swayed by Tara’s emotional apology?

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“To Bond or Not to Bond” | S2 E4 Jan 05, 2023

Tara Lee told horrible lies about birth mothers being murdered, babies dying during childbirth, or mothers deciding to keep their babies when, in reality ..there wasn’t a mother or baby at all. Thanks to the efforts of several adoptive parents and the lawyers who worked with Tara, the FBI was notified and given a ton of information to go on as they began investigating her. The FBI also identified a woman who helped Tara pull off some of her schemes and as it turned out, this wasn’t her first rodeo either.

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“Trail of Deceit” | S2 E3 Dec 22, 2022

Tara Lee and her husband Jeremy were in financial ruin. They had lost another home to foreclosure, and Tara’s wages were still being heavily garnished. There was another bankruptcy, the purchase of another, larger home, a new car, and they adopted two babies between 2012 and 2014.

During all of her financial woes, Tara established Always Hope and it appeared to be a successful, legit adoption agency… until a phone call from a woman in late 2018 changed everything.

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“Merging Families” | S2 E2 Dec 15, 2022

Last week’s episode covered Tara Lee’s extensive history of fraud and the numerous civil judgments that had been levied against her, which dramatically affected her finances for years to come. And by the time 2014 rolled around, there were a few more financial setbacks. Even so, it seemed like Tara made some positive steps toward changing her life: she’d gone to school, gotten a degree, and was trying to take control of her finances by working multiple jobs, one of which was in the legal field. But, like she wrote in her blog in 2017, the Lord had other plans for her. Those plans would absolutely change Tara’s life, and destroy countless others in the process.

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“Becoming Tara Lee” | S2 E1 Dec 08, 2022

In season two of Dirty Money Moves, Jami’s taking you along on a deep dive into a woman with an expensive taste for luxury jewelry and accessories, who satisfied her desires by taking money from the vulnerable and disadvantaged; a woman who preyed on the hopes and dreams of hundreds of desperate people, destroying countless families for generations to come. Tara Lee is a con artist of the worst kind, whose cruelty knew no limits.

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“Cults, Scams and MLMs, Oh My!” with Roberta Blevins | Beachbody Mini Series E4 Dec 01, 2022

This week, host of Life After MLM podcast Roberta Blevins joins Jami to end the mini-series on Beachbody. Together, they chat about the manipulation of MLMs and how just because you’re selling lipstick and shakes, it’s still very culty and there are repercussions. Plus, Roberta reveals some of the experiences she’s had pre and post MLM.

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“Be a Product of the Product” | Beachbody Mini Series E3 Nov 17, 2022

In the last episode, Jami talked about Beachbody’s highly sought after and controversial shake brand, Shakeology, and whether there’s any magic to them …or if they’re just an expensive snack. This week, Jami discusses Beachbody “coaches” and how they use problematic sales tactics to get more people to join their MLM company.

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Shakeology: Meal Replacement or Pricey Snack? | Beachbody Mini Series E2 Nov 10, 2022

In this episode, Jami talks about Beachbody’s favorite meal replacement drink...Shakeology. Are these shakes a healthy weight loss tool, or are they more of a problematic, restrictive eating tool?

Where things get very dicey is when Beachbody “coaches,” who don’t have any health or nutrition expertise, are touting the product as being a nutritious meal replacement and a proper weight loss tool, with NO outside studies to back up those claims. This raises the question …is Shakeology a proper meal replacement or just a pricey snack?

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“You’re a coach …everyone’s a coach!” | Beachbody Mini Series E1 Nov 03, 2022

Now that we’ve wrapped our mini series on Gwen Shamblin, we’re bringing you another one. In this mini series, we’re tackling an enterprise many of you are probably familiar with. Multi-level marketing companies, or MLMs.

Specifically Beachbody, an MLM that offers the girlboss dream …financial independence, working from home and being your own boss. But, you know that old saying “if it seems too good to be true, it probably is.”

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“Gwen SHAMblin Lara” with Emily Hanks | Mini Series E5 Oct 20, 2022

This week, Emily Hanks, host of She Speaks Bravo podcast, joins Jami to end the mini-series on Gwen Shamblin Lara. Together, they chat about the registered dietician turned church leader and her shocking demise.

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Gwen Shamblin Lara: “Fall of the Profitable Prophet” | Mini Series E4 Oct 13, 2022

What began as a normal private plane flight with Gwen, Joe and their inner circle of friends turned out to be a short-lived devastating end. With Gwen Shamblin Lara out of the picture, who will take over the reins of Remnant Fellowship?

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Gwen Shamblin Lara: “Parenting to Death” | Mini Series E3 Oct 06, 2022

At Remnant Fellowship, Gwen Shamblin Lara taught members to be completely obedient to their husbands and church leaders, and that their children should also be completely obedient to them. It’s the last point that ultimately led to the death of Remnant Fellowship member, 8-year-old Josef Smith.

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Gwen Shamblin Lara: “Slim for Him” | Mini Series E2 Sep 29, 2022

Before Gwen Shamblin Lara became the all-mighty and adored church leader, dietician, and healer behind the “Weigh Down Workshop,” she was just your average church-going wife married to her average church-going husband. But what happened once she met a new man and decided to throw the last 40 years of her marriage away?

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Gwen Shamblin Lara: “Weigh, Pray and Obey”| Mini Series E1 Sep 22, 2022

Our second mini series covers dietician turned cult leader, Gwen Shamblin Lara, the woman who started the “Weigh Down Diet” and then created a hypnotic following at her self-made church, Remnant Fellowship. Remnant Fellowship faced accusations of being a cult that promoted child abuse and praying one’s way to being thin. But there is so much more to this bizarre story than just what meets the eye.

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Jen Shah: "The Real Housewives of Podcasting" with Emily Hanks | Mini Series E5 Sep 15, 2022

This week, host of She Speaks Bravo podcast, Emily Hanks joins Jami to talk about our favorite problematic housewife Jen Shah. Emily and Jami also gush about all of their favorite Bravo shows they hate-watch including Summer House, Below Deck, Flipping Out and more!

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Jen Shah: “Shah-Shank Redemption” with Ryan Bailey | Mini Series E4 Sep 08, 2022

This week, host of So Bad It’s Good podcast, Ryan Bailey joins Jami to talk about Jen Shah, the self-described Queen Bee and MVP of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Ryan and Jami give updates on Jen Shah’s case, opinionated hot-takes, and reactions to her suddenly pleading guilty after shouting from the rooftops that she was innocent.

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The McStay Family: “Buried Truths” | MURDERISH Sep 01, 2022

MURDERISH is a true crime podcast that delves into true stories of murder, disappearances and other creepy events. Also featured on the podcast are in-depth interviews with high-profile people in the true crime community. This podcast will take you on a deep-dive journey through interesting cases, beginning the date of the crime and ending with the courtroom verdict.

In this episode, host Jami Rice talks about the abrupt disappearance of the McStay family. When Joseph and Summer McStay, along with their two toddlers, went missing from their California home in February of 2010 no one knew what to think. Several aspects of the investigation left behind a great deal of unanswered questions.

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Jen Shah: “Let’s Make a Deal” | Mini Series E3 Aug 25, 2022

Jen and her first assistant, Stuart Smith, had previously teamed up to scam people by offering fake products and services through their telemarketing company. But now the two are facing over 30 years in prison. How is everything going to shake out at their upcoming trials? And who can they trust going forward?

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Jen Shah: “Federal Shah-ud” | Mini Series E2 Aug 18, 2022

Last week on the Dirty Money Moves mini series, we introduced you to Jen Shah …the self-described Queen Bee of Bravo’s hit reality show, The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City and her #1 assistant, Stuart Smith. But what were Jen and Stuart REALLY up to for the last decade? Their lucrative telemarketing business would eventually get a lot of attention, but not the kind that anyone wants!

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Jen Shah: “TelemarketSCHEME” | Mini Series E1 Aug 11, 2022

Our first mini series covers a well known reality TV star whose lavish lifestyle is prominently featured on Bravo’s hit tv series, The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. If you’re a reality tv fan, you guessed it! We’re diving into Jen Shah, the self-described Queen Bee and MVP of the show. But, as the world saw playout on Season 2 of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, no amount of fur coats and Gucci bags can keep even the Queen Bee safe from the feds.

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Inside Baseball and Jami’s Thoughts | S1 E14 Aug 04, 2022

In this episode of Dirty Money Moves, Jami gives some background information on how the podcast came to be. Plus, she recaps some of her thoughts on the story now that we’ve had a chance to digest all of the information uncovered during Season One of the podcast.

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Introducing: MURDERISH Jul 21, 2022

MURDERISH is a true crime podcast that delves into true stories of murder, disappearances and other creepy events. Also featured on the podcast are in-depth interviews with high-profile people in the true crime community. This podcast will take you on a deep-dive journey through interesting cases, beginning the date of the crime and ending with the courtroom verdict.

In this episode, host Jami Rice was only 18 years old, about to graduate from high school, when an innocent trip to the grocery store turned into a night she would never forget. She came home to find a stranger in her bedroom.

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Working for a phony heiress: Kevin Barry, formerly worked at Bellum | S1 E13 Jul 14, 2022

In this episode, Jami speaks with Kevin Barry who formerly worked for Bellum Entertainment. Like other former Bellum workers, Kevin began to notice red flags at the company and then he witnessed the “House of Cards” fall. Kevin provided great insight on what it was like to work for a TV production company that was being operated by Mary Carole McDonnell who constantly lied, failed to pay workers, and ultimately caused the demise of Bellum Entertainment. During our conversation, Kevin explains why Mary Carole made his “skin crawl” and also a very cringeworthy moment he endured upon first meeting Dr. Jeffrey Nilles, Mary Carole’s husband.

At the end of this episode, Jami provides an update on the Mary Carole McDonnell story, as well as what’s next for Dirty Money Moves.

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Psychology of a Con Artist: Dr. Shiloh & Dr. Scott, LA Not So Confidential | S1 E12 Jul 07, 2022

In this episode, Jami is joined by Dr. Shiloh and Dr. Scott, Forensic Psychologists and Hosts of LA Not So Confidential podcast. Dr. Shiloh and Dr. Scott broke down topics such as narcissism, psychopathy, machiavellianism and SO much more.

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Comparing Con Artists: Johnathan Walton, Host of Queen of the Con | S1 E11 Jun 30, 2022

In this episode of Dirty Money Moves, Jami is joined by Johnathan Walton, TV Producer and Host of Queen of the Con podcast. Like Dirty Money Moves, Queen of the Con is also a podcast about female con artists. Johnathan’s Season 1 con artist, Mair Smith, shares a lot of similarities with Mary Carole McDonnell …including the fact that both women falsely claimed to be an heiress. The parallels between them are uncanny. You do NOT want to miss this episode.

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Prosecuting White Collar Crimes: Asst. United States Attorney, Catherine Ahn | S1 E10 Jun 23, 2022

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Inside Banc of California: When an heiress turned out to be a con artist | S1 E9 Jun 16, 2022

In this episode of Dirty Money Moves I speak with Gina Mazzolini, the researcher and writer for Dirty Money Moves. I walked Gina through what it was like working at the bank when the Mary Carole debacle happened. Gina and I also discuss Mary Carole’s childhood, professional career in the tv business, some of her shady associates, and how she managed to get her hands on close to $50 million through elaborate scams …and then disappear.

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Inside Bellum Entertainment: Interview with Brian Testa | S1 E8 Jun 09, 2022

In this episode of Dirty Money Moves, we speak to Brian Testa, who previously worked for Mary Carole McDonnell and Bellum Entertainment. Brian shares his experience of working at Bellum and the steps he’s taken to investigate Mary Carole since Bellum came crashing down.

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"Where is She?" | S1 E7 Jun 02, 2022

For the last six weeks we’ve tried to uncover the truth about who Mary Carole McDonnell is, how she was shaped during her childhood, and what factors contributed to the woman she became: a woman with a grandiose self-image; a master manipulator who constantly lied in order to get what she wanted; a woman with NO regard for who she hurt along the way. Mary Carole cared about one thing and one thing only: money. But the main question on everyone’s mind is…where is Mary Carole McDonnell?

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"Let the Lawsuits Begin" | S1 E6 May 26, 2022

In the last episode, we went over all of the loans, merchant agreements, and investments that Mary Carole McDonnell was able to get her hands on, beginning in 2007 and stretching through 2018. So what recourse has there been for all the people and institutions Mary Carole has scammed into loaning her money or investing in her fake family trust? 2017 marked the first year of lawsuits against her. That year at least twenty civil lawsuits were filed against Mary Carole and Bellum Entertainment, ranging from employees seeking unpaid wages, to banks trying to recoup their millions. Every year since, more and more lawsuits have been filed...over fifty in total. But while the lawsuits are rolling in, Mary Carole has never appeared in court for any of them.

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“Fast Cash and Dash” | S1 E5 May 19, 2022

Last episode was all about how Mary Carole McDonnell and her attorney Barry Rothman allegedly worked together to scam Banc of California out of nearly $15 million dollars. And, we found out that it apparently was not their first time pulling this hustle together. To top it all off, Barry unexpectedly died on the evening of March 9th after a dental procedure earlier that day. Many of us at the bank thought there was a chance that Mary Carole may have had something to do with Barry’s death because he knew too much about the alleged scam. His death, while extremely suspicious at first thought, turned out not to be nefarious. In this episode we dive deeper into how and when Mary Carole got her hands on millions of dollars from loans, friends, and colleagues. The amount of money the “heiress” was able to secure through deception is absolutely staggering.

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“Lies and Homemade Pies” | S1 E4 May 12, 2022

In the previous episode of Dirty Money Moves, we learned about Barry Rothman, Mary Carole’s infamous entertainment lawyer and longtime associate. We also learned that he and Mary Carole had something in common…unbelievable financial troubles. Barry also operated a complex network of foreign bank accounts and Panamanian shell companies, which he allegedly used to hide certain assets. This was the person Mary Carole aligned herself with in 2017 as Bellum Entertainment fell apart. She found herself in desperate need of a ton of money to fend off creditors, and Barry was the man she turned to for help. Shockingly, Mary Carole was so brazen, that she baked homemade pies for bank employees and hand delivered them, just before she pulled off the biggest money grab of her crooked career. That, and Barry would be dead before the bank even realized they’d been scammed.

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“The Nastiest Son of a B*tch” | S1 E3 May 05, 2022

In the last episode of Dirty Money Moves, we explained how Mary Carole’s antics were exposed by Channel 2 News. We also described how Mary Carole managed to get her hands on a few million dollars through a “gifting” program connected to her family trust that she claimed was worth millions. By 2017, Mary Carole’s flagship company, Bellum Entertainment, was crumbling. She owed individuals and institutions millions of dollars. But, in the face of mounting lawsuits and creditors breathing down her neck, Mary Carole didn’t seem to flinch. Instead, she got together with her lawyer friend, Barry Rothman, who had a colorful past and ties to one of Hollywood’s most infamous scandals involving pop icon Michael Jackson. The two of them worked out a plan to get even more cash and this time around, Mary Carole was going BIG. Through lies and false documents, Mary Carole shockingly got her hands on almost $15 million from Banc of California. And by the time Mary Carole likely began enjoying the fruit of her multi million dollar swindle, Barry would drop dead before the FBI could even question him about the bank scam.

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"House of Cards" | S1 E2 Apr 28, 2022

In this episode, Mary Carole parlays a television career into the creation of her own flagship business, Bellum Entertainment. Bellum earned apparent success through nationally syndicated true crime shows, but a closer look would reveal unpaid loans, bounced checks, and misclassifying employees as independent contractors to avoid tax responsibilities. Was Bellum the victim of bank fraud, as Mary Carole claimed, or was the success of the company a house of cards? Listen to find out. You won't want to miss this.

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“The Heiress” | S1 E1 Apr 21, 2022

Enter “the heiress,” Mary Carole McDonnell, who managed to hustle Banc of California out of $15 million. But that money grab, as it turns out, was not her first.

In this episode, Jami digs into Mary Carole’s past and discovers a strange career path that was peppered with financial misconduct. Jami explores Mary Carole’s upbringing, the tragic death of her sister, and some of the factors that may have motivated her to reinvent herself on a foundation of lies. If she wasn’t the heiress to the McDonnell Douglas fortune as she claimed, then who was she really? This episode peels back the first layer of that onion, so you don’t want to miss it.

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https://www.nexttv.com/news/exclusive-mcdonnell-departing-raycom-focus-bellum-133160

www.law360.com/insurance-authority/articles/1367864/print?section=insurance-authoriyy/general-libility

https://deadline.com/2014/08/raycom-media-vet-mary-carole-mcdonnell-exiting-to-her-bellum-entertainment-819152/

https://tvnewscheck.com/uncategorized/article/hearst-argyle-television-going-private/

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