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    Deviate

    Rolf Potts veers off-topic in this unique series of conversations with experts, public figures, and intriguing people.

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    Travel memoir lab: How your journeys can inspire fictional adventure stories Sep 07, 2026
    Show notes

    “That first day in Mumbai, there was the slum to the side of us, there were sports cars that would have cost hundreds of thousands of dollars next to people walking with no feet next to 200 people crammed into a bus. Separating those layers in a nuanced way lifts the writing that shows that you've gone there and been respectful of the people who live here.” – Luke Richardson

    In this episode of Deviate, Rolf and Luke talk about Rolf's earliest travel adventures, why going slowly and spontaneously is the best way to travel, and what it's like to travel during times of natural disaster (2:00); how to write travel stories that are both interesting to the home audience and respectful of local communities, and how some of the best travel narratives are quest narratives (9:00); the tension between truth and possibility in storytelling, Rolf's "stranger than fiction" moments on the road, and narratives that inspired Rolf's early travels (17:30); Luke's adventure novels, and the travels that informed them (28:30); how Luke takes notes and records his adventures on the road, and how he writes about places he's never been (35:00); and Luke's advice for people wanting to write fictional adventure novels (41:00).

    Luke Richardson is a traveler, author, and DJ based in England. His adventure novels include The Ark Files, The Atlantis Agenda, and The Giza Protocol. He hosts the Adventure Story Podcast.

    Notable Links:

    • Paris Writing Workshops (Rolf's annual creative writing classes)
    • Jumping freight trains in the Pacific NW (Deviate episode)
    • Alexander Supertramp (Into the Wild protagonist Chris McCandless)
    • Van Life before #VanLife (Deviate episode)
    • Vagabonding, by Rolf Potts (2003 book)
    • The WEIRDest People in the World, by Joseph Henrich (2020 book)
    • Toura Incognita, by Rolf Potts (2001 article that mentions spirit possession in Laos)
    • Brentwood, Los Angeles (wealthy suburb in California)
    • Marco Polo Didn't Go There, Rolf Potts (2008 book)
    • Martin and Osa Johnson (1920s adventurers and filmmakers)
    • Lake Paradise (wilderness area in northern Kenta)
    • On the Trans-Siberian Express, by Rolf Potts (1999 essay)
    • No Baggage Challenge (Rolf's 2010 round the world journey)
    • Apocalypse Not: One Month on the Mekong, by Rolf Potts (1999 essay)
    • In medias res (literary device)
    • Malekula (island in Vanuatu)
    • Kava (psychoactive beverage)
    • Bislama (creole language in Vanuatu)
    • Mentawai Islands (archipelago near Sumatra)
    • Gaita asturiana (Spanish bagpipes used in Cuba)
    • Blue Highways, by William Least Heat-Moon (1982 book)
    • Video Night in Kathmandu, by Pico Iyer (1988 book)
    • Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1986 John Hughes movie)
    • Before Sunrise (1995 Richard Linklater movie)
    • Lara Croft (protagonist of the Tomb Raider franchise)
    • Clive Cussler (adventure novelist)
    • Dan Brown (author of thriller novels)

    The Deviate theme music comes from the title track of Cedar Van Tassel’s 2017 album Lumber.

    Note: We don’t host a “comments” section, but we’re happy to hear your questions and insights via email, at deviate@rolfpotts.com.


    Best of Travel: Paul Theroux on the necessary obstacles of meaningful journeys Aug 04, 2026
    Show notes

    "All writing is trying to destroy a stereotype, and the individual that you're writing about -- the figure in the landscape -- is actually the ideal." —Paul Theroux

    Paul Theroux's highly acclaimed novels include Blinding Light, My Other Life, and The Mosquito Coast. His 1975 book The Great Railway Bazaar is credited with revitalizing the genre of literary travel writing, and his more recent travel books include Ghost Train to the Eastern Star, Dark Star Safari, and The Last Train to Zona Verde.

    In this episode of Deviate, Rolf and Paul talk about Theroux's book Figures in a Landscape, and strategies for writing about the "human architecture of a place" (5:30); the attitude and time-investment required for meaningful travel reportage (20:30); the qualities that determine successful travel writing (25:50); the essential discomforts and obstacles of travel (32:45); the uses and shortcomings of paper maps in developing countries (40:15); and where Paul is traveling next (46:00).

    Media mentioned in the 2026 intro

    • Deviate Mini-Essays: Creative Free-Writes for Life's Journey (Substack newsletter)
    • 6 Travel Podcasts to Inspire Your Next Trip (New York Times article)
    • Kansas Never Plays Itself (non-travel Deviate episode)
    • 2024 Deviate Super Bowl Special (non-travel Deviate episode)
    • A mixtape (of sorts) about mixtapes (non-travel Deviate episode)
    • The most 1980s underdog story of the 1980s (non-travel Deviate episode)
    • A personal history of my grunge-bandwagon band (non-travel Deviate episode)
    • Nine lessons from my failed van-life memoir (non-travel Deviate episode)

    Books, articles, and films mentioned

    • "Paul Theroux on Blogging, Travel Writing, and 'Three Cups of Tea'" (2011 Atlantic interview)
    • The Great Railway Bazaar, by Paul Theroux
    • The Mosquito Coast, by Paul Theroux
    • The Tao of Travel, by Paul Theroux
    • Deep South, by Paul Theroux
    • American Notes, by Charles Dickens
    • Barbary Shore, by Norman Mailer
    • Journey Without Maps, by Graham Greene
    • Sea and Sardinia, by D.H. Lawrence
    • Travels, by Ibn Battuta
    • Travels, by Marco Polo
    • Lafcadio Hearn's Japan: An Anthology
    • India: A Million Mutinies Now, by V.S. Naipaul
    • "Paul Theroux’s Quest to Define Hawaii" (2012 Smithsonian article)
    • "Mandalay," by Rudyard Kipling (poem)
    • Rashomon (1950 Akira Kurosawa film)
    • The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (1943 film)

    People mentioned

    • Doris Lessing (novelist and poet)
    • Tom Wolfe (author and journalist)
    • Robin Williams (actor and comedian)
    • Elizabeth Taylor (actress)
    • Michael Jackson (singer-songwriter)
    • Rod Steiger (actor)
    • Mike Nichols (film director)
    • Margaret Mead (anthropologist)
    • Colin Turnbull (anthropologist)
    • Bronislaw Malinowski (anthropologist)

    The Deviate theme music comes from the title track of Cedar Van Tassel's 2017 album Lumber.

    Note: We don’t host a “comments” section, but we're happy to hear your questions and insights via email, at deviate@rolfpotts.com.


    The geography of sports movies (with Chuck Klosterman and Michael Weinreb) Jul 03, 2026
    Show notes

    “"When I was in the third grade my teacher announced to our class that Ronald Reagan had been shot. When she asked if we had questions, I raised my hand and asked her if the Indiana - North Carolina basketball game was still going to happen that night.” – Chuck Klosterman

    In this episode of Deviate, Rolf, Chuck, and Michael hypothesize about where in Texas the town of "Dillon" is in the TV show Friday Night Lights (2:30); the role of sports and sports movies in how people perceive Indiana, and which sports fandoms are independent of geography (17:00); sports movies (and hypothetical sports movies) set in Michael's hometown of State College, PA, or Chuck's home-state of North Dakota, or Rolf's hometown of Wichita (27:00); working-class sports cities with bad reputations, and how geography determines the sports stories that are told there (40:00); the inherent placelessness of the NFL Scouting Combine and the Super Bowl, how sports are the last media events where the outcome is truly unknown, and what the best hypothetical scenario is for diehard fans watching a big game (50:00).

    Chuck Klosterman is a cultural critic known for analyzing pop culture, sports, and philosophy. He is the author of 13 books, including Sex, Drugs, and Cocoa Puffs, The Nineties, and, most recently, Football.

    Michael Weinreb (@MichaelWeinreb) is the author of three sports books, including Bigger Than the Game and Season of Saturdays. His Substack newsletter is called Throwbacks: A Newsletter About Sports History and Culture.

    Notable Links:

    • Kansas Never Plays Itself (video essay)
    • The Rewatchables (Ringer Network podcast)
    • Friday Night Lights (TV show)
    • Pflugerville, Texas (shooting Location of Friday Night Lights)
    • Odessa, Texas (setting of the book Friday Night Lights)
    • Friday Night Lights: A Town, a Team, and a Dream (book)
    • Friday Night Lights (2004 film)
    • Perfect Strangers (TV series)
    • Jesse Plemons (actor in Friday Night Lights)
    • Hoosiers (1986 movie)
    • Bob Knight (Indiana basketball coach from 1971–2000)
    • Season on the Brink, by John Feinstein (book)
    • Gene Hackman (actor in Hoosiers)
    • Woody Hayes (football coach)
    • Rudy (1993 film)
    • Subway Alumni (NYC Notre Dame fans)
    • America's Team (nickname for the Dallas Cowboys)
    • Middletown (PBS series about Muncie, Indiana basketball)
    • Something for Joey (TV movie)
    • Paterno (2018 HBO movie featuring Kiki Bush)
    • Three-Man Weave (Chuck Klosterman article about ND basketball game)
    • The Slaughter Rule (2002 American coming of age sports movie)
    • Hoop Dreams (1994 basketball documentary)
    • Downtown Owl (2023 movie)
    • Wichita Monrovians (Negro Leagues baseball team)
    • Vision Quest (1985 film)
    • The Battered Bastards of Baseball (2014 sports documentary)
    • How Rolf Ruined the 1990s (Deviate grunge episode)
    • Dawg Pound (Cleveland Browns fan section)
    • Major League (1989 movie)
    • Punk icon Ian MacKaye (Deviate episode)
    • Massillon (football-crazed town in Ohio)
    • St. Elmo Steak House (restaurant in Indianapolis)
    • NFL Scouting Combine (event in Indianapolis)

    The Deviate theme music comes from the title track of Cedar Van Tassel’s 2017 album Lumber.

    Note: We don’t host a “comments” section, but we’re happy to hear your questions and insights via email, at deviate@rolfpotts.com.


    Designing a creative life on your own terms (with Cedar Van Tassel) Jun 02, 2026
    Show notes

    “A joke is kind of like a little life-lesson in addition to being funny. If your joke is really good, there's a little nugget of truth in it.” – Cedar Van Tassel

    In this episode of Deviate, Rolf and Cedar discuss why kids want to be paleontologists and astronauts, and the existential "book" Cedar wrote when he was four (2:00); how Cedar got started reading comics, which ones were his favorites, and his own early comics projects (8:00); the golden age of webcomics, and how Appleguy got started (16:00); the world of Appleguy and Beefwood, and its "roadside attraction" and other geographical subplots (24:00); how Cedar went from drawing an Instagram comic to having a book of comics published by a major North American indie comics publisher, and what his creative process looks like (37:30); and Cedar's four pieces of creative advice: 1) Be opportunistic; 2) Give yourself some rules; 3) Don't torture yourself; 4) People will find your interest in something interesting.

    Cedar Van Tassel (@appleguy_comix) is the author of Appleguy and Beefwood, which was published by the iconic Montreal comics press Drawn & Quarterly in May of 2026. A lifelong plant and prairie lover, he does work on ecological restoration projects throughout the Great Plains.

    Notable Links:

    • Seinfeld (TV show)
    • Souvenir, by Rolf Potts (book)
    • The Misadventures of Wenamun, by Rolf Potts (comic book)
    • Paleontology (using fossils to study the past)
    • Calvin and Hobbes (daily comic strip)
    • The Complete Calvin and Hobbes (comics anthology)
    • Scott McCloud (cartoonist and comics theorist)
    • The Simpsons (animated TV sitcom)
    • Webcomics (comics published directly online)
    • Garfield (daily comic strip)
    • "The Dark Side of Travel Romance" (Deviate episode)
    • Ents (tree humanoids in Lord of the Rings)
    • S.P. Dinsmoor's Garden of Eden (roadside attraction in Kansas)
    • World's Largest Belt Buckle (roadside attraction in Kansas)
    • World's Largest Czech Egg (roadside attraction in Kansas)
    • World's Largest Collection of the World's Smallest Versions of the World's Largest Things
    • Biggest ball of twine (roadside attraction in Kansas)
    • Marshall McLuhan (media theorist)
    • Screensaver (computer software)
    • AI art (art generated by text-to-image models)

    The Deviate theme music comes from the title track of Cedar Van Tassel’s 2017 album Lumber.

    Note: We don’t host a “comments” section, but we’re happy to hear your questions and insights via email, at deviate@rolfpotts.com.


    What movies (do and don't) show us about places before we travel there May 05, 2026
    Show notes

    “When we don't foster local filmmaking traditions, we end up making movies about what we think life is like in the cities we do see movies about.” – Jason Bailey

    In this episode of Deviate, Rolf and Jason talk about how being from Kansas influenced their careers as travel writers and film critics, and the long cultural shadow of The Wizard of Oz (2:30); how Jason's career started by making independent movies in Wichita, what those movies were like, and how he remembers them now (9:00); how many New York movies were shot in Los Angeles in the early part of the 20th century (19:00); how filmmaking moved back to New York during a less-than-glamorous time in the city's history, and how it's important to tell one more story about a place (26:00); and how technology might change the way movies are made and watched in the future (32:00).

    Jason Bailey (@jasondashbailey) is an author and film critic, whose writing has appeared in such publications as the New York Times and Rolling Stone. He is the author of six books, including Fun City Cinema: New York City and the Movies that Made It, and Pulp Fiction: The Complete Story of Quentin Tarantino’s Masterpiece.

    Notable Links:

    • Kansas Never Plays Itself (video essay)
    • Celebrating the genius of Pulp Fiction (Deviate episode)
    • Joan Didion (American author and essayist)
    • Lady Bird (2017 film)
    • Fargo (1996 film)
    • The Wizard of Oz at Sphere (4D AI film in Las Vegas)
    • Alissa Wilkinson (American film critic)
    • Richard Brody (American critic)
    • Pauline Kael (American critic)
    • My Day in the Barrel (1998 Jason Bailey movie)
    • Salvage anthropology (method of documenting declining cultures)
    • Los Angeles Plays Itself (2003 essay film)
    • Actuality film (early type of nonfiction motion picture)
    • Martin Scorsese (American filmmaker)
    • The Naked City (1948 film)
    • Fame (1980 film)
    • Jim Jarmusch (American filmmaker)
    • John Cassavetes (American filmmaker)
    • Media 100 (video editing system)
    • Microdrama (serialized short-form online video)
    • Mumblecore (subgenre of independent film)

    The Deviate theme music comes from the title track of Cedar Van Tassel’s 2017 album Lumber.

    Note: We don’t host a “comments” section, but we’re happy to hear your questions and insights via email, at deviate@rolfpotts.com.


    Exploring the idiosyncrasies of male friendship, with Andrew McCarthy Apr 08, 2026
    Show notes

    “I asked everyone if they were lonely. All the guys my age said 'no, I'm too busy; too much going on.' When I answer that quickly I'm either lying or it's something I'm afraid of.” – Andrew McCarthy

    In this episode of Deviate, Rolf and Andrew talk about why Andrew took a USA road trip to reconnect with his friends (2:15); what kinds of friends Andrew sought out, why none of them were public figures, and how loneliness is bad for men's health (8:00); the kinds of men Andrew spoke with in passing on the trip, why Andrew sought out Elvis Presley sites on the road, and how women's friendships differ from men's (17:30); Andrew's takeaways from his road trip, why "showing up" for people is important, and how travel can be the "university of life" (28:00); audience questions about friendships between younger men, the rumored possibility of a St. Elmo's Fire sequel, the task of recording an audiobook, creepy things that happened on the road, and how travel inevitably makes us more open and curious (35:30).

    Andrew McCarthy (@AndrewTMcCarthy) is an actor, television director and writer of such books as The Longest Way Home, Brat and Walking with Sam. His newest book is Who Needs Friends: An Unscientific Examination of Male Friendship Across America.

    Notable Links:

    • Tips for telling travel stories, with Andrew McCarthy (Deviate episode)
    • Paris Writing Workshops (summer learning-vacation classes)
    • Travels with Charley in Search of America, by John Steinbeck (book)
    • Brat Pack (group of young 1980s actors)
    • Elvis Presley Birthplace (museum site in Tupelo, Mississippi)
    • Camps Promising to Turn You into an Alpha Male (article)
    • Comstock, Texas (incorporated community)
    • Joshua Speed (close friend of Abraham Lincoln)
    • St. Elmo's Fire (1985 movie)
    • Geoff Dyer (English author and travel writer)
    • Strawberry Hill (neighborhood in Kansas City, Kansas)

    The Deviate theme music comes from the title track of Cedar Van Tassel’s 2017 album Lumber.

    Note: We don’t host a “comments” section, but we’re happy to hear your questions and insights via email, at deviate@rolfpotts.com.


    Debunking the mythology of BEFORE SUNRISE, with co-writer Kim Krizan (in Paris) Mar 10, 2026
    Show notes

    "I think you have to pick your battles when you're collaborating with people." – Kim Krizan

    Kim Krizan (@kimkrizan) is the Oscar-nominated cowriter of the Before Sunrise movies, and the author of Spy in the House of Anaïs Nin.

    Notable Links:

    • Kim Krizan on the philosophy of Before Sunrise(YouTube video)
    • Screenwriting in Paris class, with Kim Krizan (creative writing class)
    • Paris Writing Workshops (summer learning-vacation classes)
    • Before Sunrise (1995 movie)
    • Ethan Hawke (American actor and director)
    • Julie Delpy (French actress and director)
    • Richard Linklater (American filmmaker)
    • Slacker (1990 film)
    • Dazed and Confused (1993 film)
    • Anaïs Nin (French-American diarist and novelist)
    • Reality Bites (1994 movie)
    • Robin Wright (American actress)
    • Lili Taylor (American actress)
    • The Prater (public park in Vienna)
    • Waking Life (2001 film)
    • Forrest Mallard editing and marketing services
    • Kansas Never Plays Itself (video essay by Rolf Potts)

    Super Bowl special: Why football kind of matters, with Chuck Klosterman (kind of) Feb 05, 2026
    Show notes

    “I wish I loved sports, and particularly football, a lot less than I do. It consumes too much of my memory and too much of my time.” – Chuck Klosterman

    In this episode of Deviate, Rolf talks about why he's talking to Chuck Klosterman's former roommate Michael Weinreb about Chuck's book Football, rather than Chuck himself (2:00); football-themed video games, and the difference between emotional and analytical sports fandom (7:00); Pico Iyer's appearance in the movie Marty Supreme, how podcasting has changed the landscape, and how streaming video has become the standard way to watch even high school football (17:00); why going to football games in person is a "pagan" experience of games that is completely different than watching them on TV, and how there's a travel parallel in experiencing distant places in person (24:00); how important the season and the weather is to the experience of football at both the experiential and metaphorical level (32:00); what might become of football, and why it persists as the object of fandom even by people who've never played it (39:00).

    Michael Weinreb (@MichaelWeinreb) is the author of three sports books, including Game of Kings; Bigger Than the Game; and Season of Saturdays. He has been a contributing writer for ESPN, The New York Times, Grantland, Rolling Stone, The Athletic, and The Ringer. His Substack newsletter is called Throwbacks: A Newsletter About Sports History and Culture.

    Notable Links:

    • Kicking & Screaming might be the best movie ever (Deviate episode)
    • Back to Penn State (2011 This American Life episode)
    • Chuck Klosterman (author and essayist)
    • Fargo Rock City, by Chuck Klosterman (2001 book)
    • EA Sports College Football (video game)
    • Super Bowl LV (game the Chiefs lost to the Buccaneers)
    • Super Bowl LIX (game the Chiefs lost to the Eagles)
    • A travel writers’ Super Bowl special (Deviate episode)
    • Pico Iyer (travel writer and novelist)
    • Marty Supreme (2025 sports comedy-drama film)
    • Chick Hearn (Los Angeles Lakers announcer)
    • Wesley Morris on Deviate
    • Bill Simmons (American sportswriter and cultural critic)
    • Football History Deep Dive (Bill Simmons Podcast episode)
    • 2025 Kansas 1A football championship (high school game video)
    • Arrowhead Stadium (venue for Kansas City Chiefs games)
    • Communitas (concept of the spirit of community)
    • Rick Steves (travel writer and broadcaster)
    • Lambeau Field (stadium in Green Bay)
    • Friday Night Lights (TV series)
    • All the Right Moves (1983 film)
    • The Last Boy Scout (1991 film)
    • A Fan's Notes, by Frederick Exley (1968 novel)
    • Roger Goodell (NFL commissioner)
    • Men's 1500m race at the 2016 Olympics (sports results)
    • Men's 1500m race at the 2024 Olympics (sports results)
    • Electronic Quarterback (1978 Coleco electronic game)
    • Jimi Hendrix (American musician)

    The Deviate theme music comes from the title track of Cedar Van Tassel’s 2017 album Lumber.

    Note: We don’t host a “comments” section, but we’re happy to hear your questions and insights via email, at deviate@rolfpotts.com.


    Time is your truest form of wealth (and travel helps you embrace your riches) Jan 08, 2026
    Show notes

    “In teaching us to appreciate rather than accumulate – to seek awe rather than outcomes – travel can be an ongoing exercise in gratitude.” – Rolf Potts

    In this episode of Deviate, Rolf remixes his interview from the All the Hacks podcast, with Chris Hutchins. They discuss the concept of “Time Wealth,” how it can be actualized through travel, and how it can dovetail with your family and life goals (2:00); what kinds of travel-oriented experiences and attitudes and rituals can help you frame and identify your values and life-goals (10:30); how kids can be a window into new places as a traveler, and why slowing down and "seeing less" helps you experience more on the road (27:00); the limitations of planning your travels around a "Bucket List," and the merits of taking a travel attitude to your home environment (35:30); how to pack when traveling light, and how to use technology wisely on the road (45:30).

    Chris Hutchins (Instagram: @chrishutchins) is an avid optimizer and host of a top-ranked podcast, where he shares his quest to upgrade his life without having to spend a fortune.

    Notable Links:

    • The Vagabond's Way, by Rolf Potts (books)
    • Kevin Kelly (editor and futurist)
    • Lyft (ride-hailing service)
    • Die With Zero, by Bill Perkins (book)
    • Carrefour (French convenience store)
    • Zamalek (area of Cairo, Egypt)
    • An Egyptian straight-razor shave in 21 easy steps (video)
    • Jackfruit (food)
    • Raclette (Swiss dish)
    • Père Lachaise (cemetery in Paris)
    • Frank Alamo (French singer)
    • Paris Writing Workshops (Rolf's writing classes)
    • Canton (town in Mississippi)
    • Lindsborg, Kansas ("Little Sweden")
    • Zacatecas (state in Mexico)
    • No Baggage Challenge (Rolf's 2010 no-luggage trip)
    • AirTreks (round-the-world and multi-stop flight planner)
    • Flâneur (urban wanderer)

    The Deviate theme music comes from the title track of Cedar Van Tassel’s 2017 album Lumber.

    Note: We don’t host a “comments” section, but we’re happy to hear your questions and insights via email, at deviate@rolfpotts.com.


    Kansas Never Plays Itself: How movies lie when they take us places Dec 16, 2025
    Show notes

    In this feature-length video essay that explores the role places play in storytelling, Rolf examines how Kansas -- his home state -- has been imagined, distorted, and mythologized in cinema and television for more than a century.

    Blending archival film clips, historical analysis, and deeply personal narration, Kansas Never Plays Itself traces how cinematic shorthand shapes our collective imagination. The video essay invites viewers to reconsider what it means for a location to “play itself” — and what’s lost when the real landscapes and communities behind our most beloved stories remain unseen.

    Sneak preview of the video essay is online here.

    Chapters:

    0:00 - Intro: Not in Kansas Any More

    Movies and TV shows mentioned: The Wizard of Oz (1939); Showdown at Abilene (1956); Gunsmoke (1955-1975); Dances with Wolves (1990); Kansas (1995); Capote (2005); The English (2022).

    2:00 - Part 1: No Place Like Home (or, Hollywood can’t tell the truth about places)

    Movies and TV shows mentioned: Suits (2011); Law & Order: SVU (2006); Elementary (2019); The Affair (2014); Slumber (2017); Vancouver Never Plays Itself (2015); Los Angeles Plays Itself (2003); Panic in the Streets (1950); Wichita (1955); Stark: Mirror Image (1986); Seinfeld (1992); Planes, Trains and Automobiles (1987); The Ice Harvest (2005); The Beach (2000); Mutiny on the Bounty (1962); Brigadoon (1954); Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989); Star Wars: A New Hope (1977); Game of Thrones (2012); The Game Camera (2025).

    15:05 - Part 2: Why Place Matters (or, The Wizard of Oz and Superman might be a little bit racist)

    Movies and TV shows mentioned: The Wiz (1978); The Wizard of Oz (1933); The Wizard of Oz (1925); The Wonderful Wizard of Oz (1910); Oz the Great and Powerful (2013); Wicked (2024); Smallville (2001); Superman IV: The Quest For Peace (1987); Man of Steel (2013); The Music Man (1962); Meet Me in St. Louis (1944); Gone with the Wind (1939); Swing (1938); Birthright (1939); Lying Lips (1939); Shaft (1971); The Learning Tree (1969); Oscar Micheaux documentary (2021); Adventures of Superman (1952–1958); Superman (1978).

    32:25 - Part 3: Why Location Matters (or, How movies lie when depicting places

    Movies and TV shows mentioned: Office Space (1999); Swingers (1996); Little Shop of Horrors (1986); Avatar (2009); The Matrix (1999); The Breakfast Club (1985); Ferris Bueller’s Day Off (1986); Splendor in the Grass (1961); Picnic (1955); Stand by Me (1986); Kansas (1988); Paper Moon (1973); In Cold Blood (1967); In Cold Blood TV miniseries (1996); Capote (2005); Infamous (2006); Smoke Signals (1998); Geronimo (1962); Navajo Joe (1966); Masterson of Kansas (1954); Buffalo Dance (1894); Last of the Renegades (1964); “Keep America Beautiful” PSA (1971); In the Land of the Headhunters (1914); Among the Cannibal Isles of the South Pacific (1918); The Rider (2017); Reservation Dogs (2021-2023).

    54:15 - Part 4: Why Kansas Matters (hint: it’s because all places matter)

    Movies and TV shows mentioned: He Got Game (1998); Crooklyn (1994); Do the Right Thing (1989); Lady Bird (2017); Boogie Nights (1997); Citizen Ruth (1996); Election (1999); About Schmidt (2002); Jayhawkers (2014); Ninth Street (1999); Destination Planet Negro (2013); The Incredible Brown NDN 2 (2020); Dancing on the Moon (2003); The Dead Can’t Dance (2010); Unsurety (2022); Fear Not (2020); Somebody Somewhere (2022-2024); 42nd Street (1933); King Kong (1933); Citizen Kane (1941); Guys and Dolls (1955); Sweet Smell of Success (1957); The French Connection (1971); Dog Day Afternoon (1975); Annie Hall (1977).

    1:09:00 - Postscript and end credits


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