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Back to First Principles | Productiv CTO Ashish Aggarwal Oct 29, 2024

Everyone knows the era of growth at all costs is over, but where does that leave us? And specifically, where does that leave founders? The answer is straightforward: founders have to start thinking like business people.
This week, Conor Bronsdon interviews Ashish Aggarwal, founder and CTO of Productive and an active investor in over 30 companies.
Ashish shares his insights on how startups are adapting to the new “efficient growth” environment, why this paradigm shift is an opportunity for founders, and how the pressures of efficiency have created incentives for companies to move towards geo-distributed teams instead of co-located teams.

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The Real Measure of Success in Platform Engineering | MassDriver CEO Cory O'Daniel Oct 22, 2024

It’s time we recognize the idea of a ‘Golden Path’ is unrealistic.

In this episode of Dev Interrupted, host Dan Lines is joined by Cory O'Daniel, CEO of MassDriver, to discuss Cory’s provocative article 'DevOps is Bullshit'. They cover the pitfalls of DevOps, the evolution of cloud operations and whether or not platform engineering is the solution the industry needs .

Cory shares insights on why many organizations struggle with DevOps implementation, the impact of cloud technology on traditional operations, and how internal developer platforms are reshaping the industry.

Topics:

01:03 Where has DevOps gone wrong?
04:19 Have we changed or does DevOps mean something different?
11:51 Platform engineering in 2024
20:10 How can platform engineering leaders measure success?
26:40 Why are new hires being put in charge of DevOps?
29:53 Getting buy in for a better platform engineering experience
39:13 Are internal developer platforms a fad?

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Transforming Customer Support with AI | DevRev’s Co-founder & CEO Dheeraj Pandey Oct 15, 2024

This week, host Conor Bronsdon chats with Dheeraj Pandey, CEO and co-founder of DevRev. Dheeraj shares his incredible journey from leading Nutanix to a valuation of $16 billion, to now striving to build another unicorn with DevRev.

Dheeraj opens up about the lessons learned from his entrepreneurial journey, emphasizing the significance of having a holistic approach to building products and companies. He explores how his experiences at Nutanix have shaped his vision at DevRev, especially in terms of integrating AI as a core component rather than a mere add-on.

The discussion also covers a range of topics including the transformative power of AI in business operations, customer-centric design, and the importance of balancing innovative technology with intuitive user experience.
Topics:

02:49 What inspired you to start DevRev?
08:38 How did you decide not to take a bolt on approach to AI?
11:30 What can other entrepreneurs learn from you about levelling up their abilities?
16:42 How are you approaching scaling up DevRel?
28:11 How is DevRev thinking about AI driven design?
44:52 What's happening with DevRev's leadership in AI?

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Observability as a Success Catalyst | Momento’s Co-Founder & CTO Daniela Miao Oct 08, 2024

This week, co-host Conor Bronsdon sits down with Daniela Miao, co-founder and CTO of Momento, to discuss her journey from DynamoDB at AWS to founding the real-time data infrastructure platform Momento.
Daniela covers the importance of observability, the decision to rebuild Momento's stack with Rust, and how observability can speed up development cycles. They also explore strategies for aligning technical projects with business objectives, building team trust, and the critical role of communication in achieving success.
Tune in for valuable insights on leadership, technical decision-making, and startup growth.
Topics:

02:01 Why is observability often treated as an auxiliary service?
06:14 Making a push for observability
13:32 Picking the right metrics to observe and pay attention to
15:49 Has the technical shift to Rust paid off?
19:23 How did you create trust and buy in from your team to make a switch?
26:31 What could other teams learn from Momento’s move to Rust?
38:15 Advice would you give for other technical founders?

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Iteration Velocity is the Key to Engineering Success | Vercel’s Malte Ubl Oct 01, 2024

This week, our host Dan Lines chats with Malte Ubl, CTO of Vercel, about why iteration speed is a game-changer for teams trying to deliver more efficiently. Malte shares how accelerating the development cycle and embracing platform engineering can supercharge productivity, helping teams ship faster and innovate more effectively.

We explore what it really means to streamline workflows, reduce bottlenecks, and create an environment where developers can focus on what they do best—building great products. Malte also gives us a behind-the-scenes look at how engineering strategies are evolving to keep up with the ever-growing demands.

Topics:

01:14 How do you see platform engineering changing the way modern software engineering functions?
04:52 Decentralized vs. centralized teams?
11:40 How Vercel is using AI
13:30 All about AI SDKs
20:41 How should platform engineering teams should be using AI?
28:02 Power struggles between high level ICs and a high level managers?
30:10 Key factors to focus on when optimizing AI applications?
35:11 Advice for other CTOs or engineering leaders

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How Specialized Models Drive Developer Productivity | Tabnine’s Brandon Jung Sep 24, 2024

What are the limitations of general large language models, and when should you evaluate more specialized models for your team’s most important use case?

This week, Conor Bronsdon sits down with Brandon Jung, Vice President of Ecosystem at Tabnine, to explore the difference between specialized models and LLMs. Brandon highlights how specialized models outperform LLMs when it comes to specific coding tasks, and how developers can leverage tailored solutions to improve developer productivity and code quality. The conversation covers the importance of data transparency, data origination, cost implications, and regulatory considerations such as the EU's AI Act.

Whether you're a developer looking to boost your productivity or an engineering leader evaluating solutions for your team, this episode offers important context on the next wave of AI solutions
Topics:

00:31 Specialized models vs. LLMs
01:56 The problems with LLMs and data integrity
12:34 Why AGI is further away than we think
16:11 Evaluating the right models for your engineering team
23:42 Is AI code secure?
26:22 How to adjust to work with AI effectively 32:48 Training developers in the new AI world

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Agentic AI: Dissecting the Future of AI Workflows | Memra's Founder Amir Behbehani Sep 17, 2024

Engineering teams are already seeing efficiency gains by leveraging Gen AI solutions like Copilot, but the next wave of AI workflows has the potential to 10X productivity.

This week, we’re exploring the world of Agentic AI with Amir Behbehani, Chief AI Engineer and Founder of Memra. Agentic AI can be defined as AI agents or systems that have the capacity to make decisions or take actions on their own based on the objectives they are programmed to achieve. These AI systems act independently, gathering information, processing it, and then choosing or executing actions without direct human intervention.

Amir shares how Memra is leading the way in developing AI agents capable of handling complex tasks, decision-making, and improving productivity across industries. He also discusses the implications of AI in reshaping how businesses operate, and how organizations can prepare for a future where AI plays a central role in both day-to-day operations and high-level strategic decisions.

Whether you're an AI enthusiast, an engineering leader, or curious about the future of automation, this episode offers a deep dive into the possibilities and challenges of Agentic AI and what it means for the future of work.
Chapters:

01:23 Defining Agentic AI
07:02 Frameworks for thinking about Agentic AI
12:52 Unpacking AI as a black box
13:58 How Agentic AI will benefit software engineers
22:55 What would be a good starting point to leverage agents on an engineering team?
26:46 Will agents replace freelancers and the gig economy?
36:20 What is the synthetic marketplace?
40:11 How Agentic AI impacts writing code

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The Rising Demand for Soft Skills in Engineering | LinkedIn’s VPE Aarathi Vidyasagar Sep 10, 2024

According to a LinkedIn study, engineers with strong soft skills are promoted 13% faster than those with only technical skills. Given how AI will continue to reshape market demands for developers and engineering leaders, how can you adapt to these changes and further your career?

This week we’re joined by Aarathi Vidyasagar, VP of Engineering at LinkedIn, to explore the growing importance of soft skills and how leadership, communication, and empathy are becoming just as critical as technical expertise.

Aarathi shares how LinkedIn is preparing engineers to thrive in this new environment, focusing on upskilling teams to navigate AI and empower collaboration and innovation through strong interpersonal skills. She offers valuable takeaways into building engineering teams that balance hard technical abilities with the soft skills needed to lead, mentor, and work effectively in diverse teams.

For anyone interested in the future of engineering and the rising demand for soft skills, this episode offers an important perspective on how to equip your teams for long-term success in an AI-driven world.
Episode Highlights:

00:56 How industry changes have impacted the need for communication and soft skills
04:31 How software development is going to continue to change
12:33 Generalists vs Specialists
15:52 How is LinkedIn positioned for the new era of hiring?
31:11 How is LinkedIn approaching developer experience and productivity?
36:33 How to support devs in automating migrations

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Finding the Best Gen AI Use Case for Your Dev Team | Sonar’s Peter McKee Aug 27, 2024

Gen AI for dev teams has been a focal point of conversation for the last few years, but the technology and application are both still very nascent. How can you find the best Gen AI use case for your team, and implement it safely?

This week, our host Dan Lines sits down with Peter McKee, Vice President of Developer Relations and Community at Sonar. They explore the benefits and risks associated with Gen AI, and whether this new tooling is most impactful for junior or senior developers. Regardless of the persona, there needs to be an emphasis on quality control, static code analysis, and the new coaching strategies to help the influx of new code.

Tune in to hear Dan and Peter offer practical advice for engineering leaders on safely experimenting with and integrating Gen AI tools to enhance productivity without sacrificing quality.
Episode Highlights:

00:33 The ins and out of being a VP of Developer Relations and Community
04:48 The Importance of wisdom and experience when applying Gen AI
08:32 Is there more of a risk for junior developers in this age?
19:51 How tooling can help with the influx of Gen AI Code
26:02 The safe ways to roll out Gen AI to developers
29:21 Where to start applying Gen AI for your team

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Mastering Developer Experience at Shopify | Eytan Seidman, Director of Product Aug 20, 2024

In an organization as big as Shopify, how can you pioneer exceptional developer experience not only for your team but also for external developers using your product?

This week we’re joined by Eytan Seidman, Director of Product at Shopify to unpack Shopify's approach to building elite engineering teams. Eytan highlights how Shopify’s high-context, high-autonomy culture empowers engineers and product managers to innovate and drive impact. By leveraging a mission-driven culture, Shopify ensures that internal and external developers can contribute effectively to the platform, without being bottlenecked back by inefficient processes or developer experience.

Tune in this week, and discover how you can implement the same processes that have made Shopify so successful.
Episode Highlights:

00:50 What makes engineering and product roles at Shopify special?
03:31 How Shopify onboards new hires to drive impact
09:05 Pioneering developer experience at Shopify
13:28 How Shopify defines success for their platform
17:50 Building high-context, empowered teams
29:35 Leveraging AI and LLM’s as a growth opportunity
35:29 Advice for product and engineering leaders thinking about their next career step

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Eytan Seidman
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Shopify Developers Platform—Build. Innovate. Get paid.
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Helping Government Software Teams Move Faster | Carnegie Mellon's Robin Yeman Aug 13, 2024

Both the aerospace and defense sectors are renowned for long project timelines rife with silos and hurdles that get in the way of productivity. With over 20 years of experience at Lockheed Martin and elsewhere, Robin Yeman literally wrote the book Industrial DevOps on how to implement DevOps principles at traditional behemoths to build faster, safer systems.

As Space Domain Lead at Carnegie Mellon's Software Engineering Institute, Robin’s pioneering work reveals how applying DevOps principles can significantly improve speed, quality, and collaboration at traditional enterprises. She emphasizes the importance of cross-functional teams, modular architectures, and a growth mindset in driving innovation and overcoming the challenges of digital transformation within the aerospace and defense sectors.

Tune in to gain practical insights about the application of DevOps in large-scale systems, the role of organizational design in fostering communication, and how these principles have helped government software teams.

Episode Highlights:
- 01:12 Robin’s book Industrial DevOps
- 04:00 How did Robin’s work at Lockheed Martin lead to Carnegie Mellon?
- 05:46 How should you get started thinking about industrial DevOps?
- 08:01 How Robin’s research came together across varied experiences
- 10:25 What patterns can you adapt to be more successful?
- 16:54 Quantitative vs. qualitative data when making long term plans
- 20:27 Shifting left in Industrial DevOps
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Scaling Smart: Strategies for Product Development | Semgrep’s Adam Berman Aug 06, 2024

Scaling new product lines within a growing company can be both an opportunity and quite challenging. Semgrep's Head of Engineering Adam Berman joined us this week to share his own experience developing Semgrep's second product line.

Adam was instrumental in developing Semgrep's second product line, and he shares practical strategies for moving from a single-product to a multi-product organization. He unpacks the challenges of organizational design, the importance of fast iteration and feedback loops, and how to build a cohesive company identity with so many moving parts.

If you want to learn how to effectively scale products and how to drive product growth, this episode is a must-listen.

Episode Highlights:

1:10 The challenges of new product lines
4:25 Scaling teams for success and strategies for growth
7:30 Finding the right balance between practicality and innovation
12:15 A startup within a startup mentality
18:40 Learning through experimentation
23:55 Key considerations when navigating product market fit
28:20 Driving growth in engineering teams

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From Mentor to Manager: How to Get Into Engineering Management | Asana’s Amanda Sopkin Jul 23, 2024

This week, co-host Conor Bronsdon sits down with Amanda Sopkin, Engineering Manager at Asana. Amanda shares her journey from software engineer to manager, discussing the pivotal moment she chose to pursue management over an individual contributor path. We cover the indicators of a successful manager, the red flags to watch for, and the importance of mentorship.

Amanda emphasizes the value of finding the right fit for team members, tailoring leadership styles, and developing a balanced team. Tune in for insights on managing senior versus junior engineers, promoting team members, and striking a balance between professional growth and personal fulfillment.
Episode Highlights:
00:49 Amanda’s Path to Engineering Management
04:58 How to tailor your leadership style to your team
06:40 Unlocking the potential of your team
13:25 Keeping track of your team members individual needs
17:43 Management career goals
20:31 What Amanda is passionate about within engineering
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The Rise of Cloud Costs, and How to Optimize Them | Plaid’s Mark Robinson Jul 16, 2024

“If you're not careful, cloud computing can lose more money faster than any invention in history” - Mark Robinson, Infrastructure Engineer at Plaid

This week, guest host Ben Lloyd Pearson sits down with Plaid’s Mark Robinson to learn how he helped Plaid save 25% in costs by optimizing existing resources and eliminating waste in cloud computing.

Mark explains the importance of understanding your cloud bill, identifying areas of overspend, and implementing changes that lead to significant savings. From the basics of tagging resources to the intricacies of optimizing network and storage costs, Mark offers practical tips that can help you uncover countless optimization opportunities.

Tune in to learn about the rewards of improving cloud cost efficiency, the role of organizational buy-in, and the benefits of making cost optimization a company-wide value.
Episode Highlights:
00:56 How did cloud computing get so expensive?
02:34 Digging into what your costs actually are
04:55 How can you account for the various services you use?
07:35 Where are organizations going to get the most value out of?
12:26 Cloud costs relation to better code quality
16:08 Blockers in organizations to cost savings
19:32 Getting buy-in from leadership on cutting cloud costs
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AI Hype Cycle: How to Find Real and Practical vs. Shiny | OpenAI’s Louis Brandy Jul 09, 2024

AI is the biggest hype cycle happening in tech right now, but how do you know what’s actually going to make an impact for your product and team vs. what’s just new and shiny?

This week, LinearB COO & Co-founder Dan Lines sits down with Louis Brandy, Member of Technical Staff OpenAI and ex-VP of Engineering at Rockset. Louis shares his unique perspective on the evolution of AI, drawing from his experiences with early days AI work at Meta and now with OpenAI following their acquisition of Rockset. He shares grounded insights into the realities of AI, separating fact from fiction in an industry often clouded by buzzwords and unrealistic expectations.

Listeners will learn about the practical applications of AI, the challenges and opportunities it presents, and how to go past the hype to find AI's potential. Whether you're an AI enthusiast, a skeptic, or a professional looking to understand the true impact of AI for engineering teams, this episode offers an insightful look at one of the most talked-about topics in tech today.
Episode Highlights:
00:32 Louis Brandy's background with AI at Meta
04:31 The current AI hype cycle
13:09 How should engineering leaders think about AI and the pressure to use it?
17:58 How to know if you’re falling into the hype cycle
25:50 AI vs. human code
34:42 Real time when it comes to AI
38:36 What should an IC do about AI in their career path?
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Realistic Product Roadmaps and Other Lies | Best Egg’s Johnny Ray Austin Jul 02, 2024

When we first saw the talk titled “Space Aliens Are Among Us, Your Product Roadmap is Realistic and Other Lies you Believe,” we knew we had to sit down with Best Egg’s Johnny Ray Austin at LeadingEng SF last year.
Johnny joined our host Conor Bronsdon to discuss how engineering leaders can navigate unrealistic expectations and pressures, drawing from his experiences and relating product roadmaps to the less-than-tangible UFO disclosure we’ve seen in recent years. The conversation explores the pressures engineering leaders face, how to align product roadmaps realistically, and how to manage ambiguity within teams.

By aligning engineering goals with business objectives and building a transparent, high-performing engineering culture, you can give your teams the context they need to drive focus and concentration toward the right outcomes.

Episode Highlights:

1:36 Where Johnny came up with the talk title "Space Aliens Are Among Us"
4:15 Advice for engineering leaders struggling with roadmap realism
6:44 Cutting through the noise to find the metrics that matter
11:41 How do teams know if they're moving fast in the right direction?
14:58 How do you handle teams that are getting the wrong input?
20:32 Lies we tell ourselves that we need to get past
28:32 What it’s like to create a new unit inside a company
33:53 Identifying and dealing with ambiguity on your teams
40:45 Johnny’s Thoughts on AI

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Labs: Everything You Need to Know About Software Engineering Intelligence (SEI) Jun 25, 2024

Engineering leaders have long used value stream management and CI/CD tools to improve software delivery practices. However, an increasing demand for cost and efficiency is leading to the adoption of new technologies. Enterprises are quickly adopting tools that combine deeper levels of visibility into the SDLC with net-new workflow automations, leading to a better developer experience and increased output.

This week's labs episode takes an in-depth look at Software Engineering Intelligence (SEI) Platforms and how engineering teams are using this new technology to gain a competitive advantage. LinearB’s COO and Co-founder Dan Lines along with co-host Conor Bronsdon cover the evolution of SEI, its core capabilities, and how these tools are being used to drive predictability, resource investment strategy and an improved developer experience.

Join our journey into the data insights and workflow automations that are driving the next wave of continuous improvement. Gartner estimates that the adoption of SEI platforms will increase to 50% of engineering teams by 2027 – whether you're a VP, manager, or developer, find out why adopting an SEI Platform is crucial to your future success.

Episode Highlights:

2:39 Digging into the data to find optimizations
4:02 What is Software Engineering Intelligence (SEI)?
9:08 What is profitable engineering and why should it be top of mind?
14:56 How can SEI help a VPE or CTO?
20:43 How does SEI relate to value stream management?
25:05 The role of automation in continuous improvement
29:36 How do SEI platforms help improve GenAI code orchestration?
31:45 What makes a great SEI platform?
34:19 What's next for SEI?

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Data Science & AI: Getting Buy-In and Demonstrating ROI | PagerDuty’s Sanghamitra Goswami Jun 18, 2024

In this episode of Dev Interrupted, Conor Bronsdon is joined by Sanghamitra Goswami, Senior Director of Data Science and Machine Learning at PagerDuty. Sanghamitra shares her expertise in AI and data science, including how engineering teams can effectively leverage both within their organizations. She also explores the history and significance of LLMs, strategies for measuring success and ROI, and the importance of foundational data work. The conversation ends with a discussion about practical applications of AI at PagerDuty, including features designed to reduce noise and improve incident resolution.
Episode Highlights:
00:56 Why are LLMs important for engineering teams to understand?
03:17 How should engineering leaders think about using AI in their products?
07:57 What sort of plan should engineering leaders have to get buy in for AI?
13:22 Are there ways to show ROI on an investment in AI?
15:08 How should we communicate with customers about AI in our products?
18:53 How can companies find a good use case for AI in their product?
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The Power of Micro Frontends & Breaking Down Monoliths | Thayse Onofrio Jun 04, 2024

This week, guest host Ben Lloyd Pearson chats with Thayse Onofrio, Software Engineer at Clutch and ex Thoughtworks. Thayse discusses how micro frontends allow individual application components to be operated and deployed independently, helping teams avoid the complexities of a monolithic architecture. They cover the technicalities, challenges, and advantages of implementing micro frontends, including the importance of module federation and proper coordination among developer teams. Learn about the future of frontend development, the cultural impacts, and the best practices from Thayse’s experience.
Episode highlights:
01:02 What is a micro frontend?
04:08 Building from scratch vs. out-of-the-box solutions
10:30 What’s the process for moving to a more micro frontend based approach?
15:46 What changes do you need to use a micro frontend framework?
17:28 What does a team using micro frontends benefit from once it's all set up?
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Thayse Onofrio | Twitter
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Thayse Onofrio | LeadDev
Software Engineering Intelligence: Exposed & In Action

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Deliver Better Results: How to Unlock Your Organization's Potential | Gil Broza May 28, 2024

Dan Lines is joined by Gil Broza, author of 'Deliver Better Results,' to discuss how you and your organization can achieve better results by focusing on processes. Gil shares his 20-year journey in the Agile field, focusing on product development, system thinking, prioritizing people, and mindful mindset adjustments.

The conversation covers the book’s target audience, the concept of the value delivery systems, and the roadmap for holistic improvement beyond traditional Agile methodologies. Gil also highlights common pitfalls leaders encounter, such as treating people as resources and the importance of a unified organizational mindset.

As a thank you to our listeners, we’re giving away the first chapter of ‘Deliver Better Results’ for free, check it out here.
Episode Highlights:
00:58 What led Gil to write ‘Deliver Better Results’, and who should be reading it?
06:20 Is there a certain size of team that would benefit from this book?
12:08 How can leaders identify the current state of their team?
17:01 How can engineering and product work better together?
20:49 What do leaders get wrong about people?
34:14 How can managers avoid finding someone to blame?
40:10 How can you avoid falling back to old habits after you make changes?
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How to Increase Adoption of Internal Developer Tooling | Bloomberg’s Luis Vega May 21, 2024

This week, guest host Ben Lloyd Pearson sits down with Bloomberg’s Engineering Manager Luis Vega. Luis discusses the initial challenges of enhancing developer engagement with internal tooling. He outlines his approach to building internal applications that are as intuitive and engaging as Bloomberg's client-facing solutions, and how applying UX design principles and branding for tools dramatically increased adoption.
Vega also reflects on transitioning from a hands-on developer to a managerial role, emphasizing the importance of understanding team dynamics and fostering a culture of support and innovation within Bloomberg.
Episode Highlights:
01:14 What is Bloomberg?
02:52 How do you get developers to embrace internal tooling?
06:58 Giving applications mascots
12:28 Helping developers be more productive with internal tooling
18:31 What was the biggest challenge to tackle when developing internal tooling?
25:41 Luis' journey into development
32:07 What's next for Bloomberg's internal tools?
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How to Drive Developer Productivity and Profitability with SEI
Bloomberg
Luis Alejandro Vega on LinkedIn
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Labs: Setting Engineering Goals and Reporting to Stakeholders May 14, 2024

In our first Labs episode of the year, LinearB COO and Co-founder Dan Lines is joined by CTO Yishai Beeri to explore how elite engineering organizations set and report on their engineering goals.

Modern engineering leaders face a dual mandate of achieving operational excellence while aligning their work with business priorities. To achieve this, you need to deliver software predictably—projects need to be delivered on time, within scope, and as promised so the rest of the business can drive ROI. Dan and Yishai highlight goal-setting methodologies to achieve predictable delivery and key metrics to focus on, ranging from planning accuracy and capacity accuracy to cycle time.

Along with goal setting, we cover how to effectively report on your goals and progress to business stakeholders. Plus, you can download LinearB’s CTO Board Deck Template to leverage in your next board meeting.

Episode Highlights:
01:24 Key terms to know when setting goals
02:17 Engineering leaders’ dual mandate: operational excellence and business alignment
08:18 How can engineering leaders set goals to achieve both sides of this mandate?
11:37 Why engineering organizations need to deliver predictably
19:37 How to set goals around resource allocation
27:30 Reporting on your goals to business stakeholders
32:56 The LinearB CTO Board Deck Template
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Why You Need to Take Risks as an Engineering Leader | GitHub’s VPE Neha Batra Apr 30, 2024

This week, I sat down with Neha Batra, VP of Engineering for Core Productivity at GitHub. Our conversation is about the value of taking calculated risks in engineering leadership, using a “risk budget," and how you can leverage your social capital to take risks that help your career.

Neha also shares her insights on senior engineering leaders' challenges when aligning business needs with talent and product execution. She discusses her framework for strengthening company alignment and engineering efficiency using established communication paths.

Episode Highlights:
00:26 Frameworks that strengthen company alignment
03:11 How should you channel frustration into creation?
05:58 Conceptualizing your risk budget
12:53 Strategies for building communication pathways
16:04 Conducting AMA's with your team
21:47 How do you get team members to take accountability?
25:27 How do you gather signals from your team?
29:13 Mistakes leaders make you can learn from
36:32 Building curiosity into mundane experiences like dating
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Unlocking Employee Engagement and Innovation | ADP’s Chuck Lafferty Apr 23, 2024

In the last few years, disengagement at work has become a massive issue. We learned from Dr. Andre Martin’s episode that 53% of managers are burnt out and 1 in 3 employees leave their jobs in the first 90 days.

This week, we sat down with Chuck Lafferty, VP of CRM at ADP, to discuss ADP’s approach to employee engagement and innovation. Chuck dives into building trust within teams, innovative techniques like ‘Survey Roulette’ to incorporate user feedback into development, and the critical role of understanding and caring for individuals.

When employees feel valued, heard, and engaged in meaningful work, you see improved productivity and increased job satisfaction. The episode concludes with actionable steps to improve employee engagement through personalized interactions and empathetic leadership.

Episode Highlights:

01:51 How does Chuck define employee engagement?
04:06 Can you measure employee engagement?
12:05 How can managers engage individual developers?
17:16 Survey Roulette and how it helps engage engineering teams.
22:31 Winning in the workplace
23:45 The importance of separating the problem from the person
25:30 How can you improve employee engagement?

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Automated ≠ Autonomous: Developer Productivity and AI | MongoDB’s Tara Hernandez Apr 16, 2024

This week, our host Dan Lines sits down with Tara Hernandez, VP of Developer Productivity at MongoDB. Together, they explore the nuances of developer productivity and the impact of AI in engineering environments.

Tara emphasizes that achieving developer productivity requires a focus on outcomes, reduced noise for developers, and a healthy balance between technology, processes, and communication. She also touches on the strategic framework of the 'three horizons' for conceptualizing your investment breakdown across different projects and how to maintain focused on meaningful development work.
Episode Highlights:
01:43 How should you think about developer productivity?
09:09 Three pillars to improve developer productivity
16:07 Automated does not equal autonomous
24:46 Making the golden path the easy path for developers
27:51 What’s exciting in developer productivity and AI?
29:57 The three horizons
38:34 Developer performance vs productivity data
40:23 What is the right way to think about goal setting for noise reduction?
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How Microsoft Integrates AI into Security | Binil Pillai Apr 02, 2024

In the past year, ransomware attacks have been up almost 300%, with over 50% targeting small businesses. To help mitigate this increase, Microsoft is launching their new Security Copilot, and we sat down with their SMB Security Strategy Head, Binil Pillai, to learn more.

We dive into the importance of SMBs assessing their security posture, how to leverage AI for efficient threat detection and response, and the role of Microsoft's partner ecosystem in providing comprehensive security solutions. The episode concludes with advice for SMB leaders on starting their security assessments and the benefits of integrating AI into their cybersecurity strategies.

Episode Highlights:
01:39 Why is SMB security a priority for Microsoft?
07:34 Key security challenges for SMBs
09:26 How can SMBs leverage AI within security?
16:28 How VPs of Engineering can use new tech to deal with threats
20:25 Microsoft Security Copilot
24:30 Where is the best place to learn about Microsoft's security strategy?
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How to Leverage a Non-Technical Background in Engineering Leadership | Melissa DePuydt Mar 26, 2024

In this episode, host Conor Bronsdon talks with Melissa DePuydt, Sr. Director of Engineering at Upstatement. Melissa discusses how her background in journalism has uniquely positioned her to excel in engineering leadership roles. She highlights how thinking like a journalist has enhanced her ability to lead engineering teams effectively, particularly in planning, risk management, and decision-making.

The conversation covers the importance of preparing for disruptions, conducting pre-mortems to anticipate challenges, and incorporating broad perspectives for effective problem solving. Melissa also shares insights on continuously learning and adapting by embracing one's unique background and experiences.
Episode Highlights:
00:20 Why do engineering leaders need to think like journalists?
04:46 Preparing for disruptions as an engineering leader
08:44 How pre-mortems work in practice: an example from the Atlantic
12:47 How to get buy in from other leaders when changing processes
17:59 Eliciting buy-in from team members on pre-mortems
22:15 How do we train engineers to think in a team sport mentality?
26:51 Why is career switching a superpower?
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Preparing for Your First VP of Engineering Role | Honeycomb VPE, Emily Nakashima Mar 19, 2024

On this week’s episode, host Conor Bronsdon sits down with Emily Nakashima, VP of Engineering at Honeycomb.io, to discuss how you can prepare to be a VP of Engineering, and how the role differs among companies. Being a VPE varies based on company size, culture, and the existing team's makeup, and Emily provides valuable advice for engineers aspiring to leadership positions.
Emily also discusses using personality tests for better team dynamics and the need for regular self-evaluation as an integral part of career advancement. The conversation closes by talking about the impact of AI on the workforce, the importance of aligning engineering and business goals, and the potential of AI to enhance rather than replace human skills.
Episode Highlights:
01:27 Why does Emily think there isn't a standard VP of Engineering role?
06:29 The archetypes of the VPE role
10:15 How does the VPE role change as an organization grows?
14:46 Preparing to become a VP of Engineering before you get the role
20:11 How you can use personality tests in organizational design
26:00 How is the VP of Engineering role changing in 2024?
30:53 Teams are having to accept realities about production software with regards to AI
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How to Build Influence as an Engineering Leader | Kelly Vaughn Mar 12, 2024

This week, host Conor Bronsdon welcomes back Kelly Vaughn, Director of Engineering at Spot AI, to talk about building influence as an engineering leader. Kelly shares insights on the importance of leadership skills for both individual contributor and managerial roles and outlines her three pillars of trust, communication, and empowerment.
Conor and Kelly discuss strategies for staying technically fresh despite moving up in management, exploring the balance between staying close to product development and avoiding micromanagement. Lastly, they touch on the potential of AR/VR technology, with a focus on the business implications of Apple's Vision Pro and the future of immersive experiences.
Episode Highlights:
01:09 How should engineering leaders think about building influence?
03:53 The impact of changing roles or companies on your performance
08:07 Why you lose important context when making assumptions
09:32 How ICs can help manage their team
10:49 Key ways to build influence and trust
16:00 How important is trust when giving or recieving feedback?
22:27 How do leaders stay close to their product as their org grows?
28:58 Our thoughts on Apple Vision Pro and AR VR in general
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How to Achieve Predictable Software Delivery at Scale | Syngenta’s Jason Krohn Feb 27, 2024

On this week’s episode, host Conor Bronsdon is joined by Jason Krohn, Global Head of Delivery at Syngenta. Jason delves into how his teams at Syngenta leverage software engineering intelligence to achieve predictable delivery at scale.
Jason also explores how aligning work with employees' passions contributes to success and retention at Syngenta. He discusses the challenges and solutions in implementing efficient DevOps processes and ensuring organizational buy-in for the vision. Additionally, Jason highlights the importance of empowering teams with autonomy and providing the necessary tools for proactive decision-making.
Whether you're leading a small team or managing an enterprise, Jason's insights offer valuable lessons on driving efficiency, scaling effectively, and fostering a culture of continuous improvement.
Episode Highlights:
1:46 Scaling teams that are empowered and autonomous
4:01: The four pillars for retaining talent in tech teams.
12:51 Tackling organizational change
18:41 Using metrics to achieve predictable delivery
21:45 Why your engineering teams' need to care about metrics, not just be compliant
26:20 Addressing production delays and DevOps integration
28:55 Leadership's role in communicating the 'why’
33:05 The Importance of Coaching When Mentoring
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The Startup CTO's Handbook | Zach Goldberg Feb 20, 2024

This week, host Dan Lines welcomes back Zach Goldberg, CTO and author of the book 'The Startup CTO's Handbook: Essential Skills and Best Practices for High Performing Engineering Teams.’ Zach shares insights from his extensive career as a CTO and his journey in writing a book that condenses the wisdom of numerous other influential works into a single, comprehensive guide.

We explore the three core sections of his book:

Management Fundamentals: Interviewing, Hiring, Performance Management, Budgeting, etc.
Technical Leadership Concepts: Developer Experience, Tech Debt, etc.
Hard Technology Decisions: Pragmatism, Tech Stack, etc.

Zach provides advice for not only CTOs but anyone in a technical leadership position, offering strategies to develop empathy and understanding within technical organizations.
Episode Highlights:

1:59 From Startup CTO to Author and Executive Coach
3:41 The Origin of Best Practices and Genesis of the Handbook
10:25 Why the Startup CTO’s Handbook isn’t just for CTOs
13:02 Part 1: Management Fundamentals Beyond Coding
24:50 Part 2: Technical Leadership Concepts & Developer Experience
30:57 Part 3: Technology Decisions from a Pragmatic Perspective

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How to Build a Technical Strategy That Solves Business Problems | CircleCI CTO, Rob Zuber Feb 13, 2024

It doesn’t matter if you have an innovative technical strategy if you’re not solving problems the business cares about…
This week, host Conor Bronsdon sits down with Rob Zuber, CTO at CircleCI. They delve into the evolving role of engineering leaders, and the importance of building a technical strategy that aligns with overarching business goals.
Throughout the conversation, Rob emphasizes the importance of focusing on customer needs, gathering direct feedback and maintaining strategic flexibility. If you’re interested in understanding the balance between technical strategy and business leadership, this episode provides a wealth of knowledge, strategies, and real-world examples.

Episode Highlights:
01:38 Crafting technical strategy for teams at CircleCI
07:26 How engineering leaders can make the most informed choices about their business
17:47 Using postmortems to fuel a growth mindset
22:39 Applying hypotheses to be prepared for worst-case scenarios
27:43 Why CTOs need to focus on solving business problems first, then technical strategy
30:30 Why engineering leaders need to form a close relationship with finance
33:17 Advice for ICs or Directors on becoming a business leader
39:17 Rob's approach to building trust and organizational design
44:36 How can I prepare for being a technical founder?
55:12 What is CircleCI doing in ML?
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The 12 Scenarios of Failure: Applying Chaos Engineering to SAP at AWS Feb 06, 2024

On this week’s episode, host Conor Bronsdon sit down with Guilherme Sesterheim, SAP DevOps SRE Engineer at AWS. Guilherme delves into applying Chaos Engineering and DevOps principles to SAP, a domain traditionally seen as risk-averse and resistant to rapid innovation.

With expertise in both open-source technologies and SAP, Guilherme shares how he’s bringing modern practices to SAP environments at AWS. He explores how Chaos Engineering can be used to test and improve the resilience of SAP systems, focusing on HANA, SAP’s in-memory database. The discussion also touches on the challenges of integrating these practices within the SAP framework and the broader implications for SAP users and the tech industry.

Episode Highlights:

00:20 What does it mean to apply chaos engineering to testing SAP installation
04:05 What does it mean to have DevOps around SAP?
05:58 Guilherme’s approach to DevOps practices around SAP
10:01 The challenge of handling installation and migration
11:50 How to Start Applying Chaos Engineering to Your SAP Instance
16:57 The 12 Scenarios When You Inject Failures on SAP
19:24 How Guilherme ended up at AWS working on SAP
23:14 What’s Next in DevOps Guilherme is Excited About?

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Wiring the Winning Organization - IT Revolution

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The Build vs. Buy Debate, GenAI and Section 174 | Kelly Vaughn Jan 30, 2024

On this week’s episode, our hosts Dan Lines and Conor Bronsdon are joined by long-time friend of the show, industry expert, and Director of Engineering at Spot AI, Kelly Vaughn. Together they tackle a range of topics, including how tax laws are impacting engineering teams, the evolving role of AI in software development, and the great build vs. buy debate.

The conversation starts with Kelly and Dan’s takes on Section 174, which poses a looming threat to US tech companies. From there, they pivot to GenAI to discuss how you can measure its impact, leadership’s role in the process, and the importance of navigating this implementation wisely. They conclude by talking about Kelly’s recent article on the debate of building software in-house vs. buying third-party solutions, and why the answer isn’t black or white.
Episode Highlights

01:35 Section 174's impact on US tech companies
08:01 Why intention matters for remote vs. in-person work
12:46 Kelly and Dan’s take on what’s causing layoffs in tech
18:21 What should leaders be doing to encourage Gen AI tool knowledge?
24:28 How are we tracking the impact of Gen AI?
31:50 How should organizations set up standardization?
33:55 The great build vs. buy debate
39:47 How the engineering leaders’ role has changed in recent years

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Netflix's Blueprint for Building Inspired Engineering Teams | Carol Barrett Jan 23, 2024

On this week's episode, we're joined by Carol Barrett, the Engineering Leader in Consumer Identity and Access at Netflix. Host Conor Bronsdon interviews Carol to learn about Netflix’s blueprint for success when building engineering teams, and how they foster a culture where inspiration and purpose are at the forefront.

Carol shares her valuable insights on empowering engineers to make their own decisions, ensuring product management and engineering are perfectly synced, and the importance of flexible structures that cater to team dynamics. She also discusses the unique challenges and opportunities Netflix faces, including their approach to innovative projects and navigating uncharted technological territories.

From quarterly commitments to building impactful partnerships, learn how Netflix maintains its edge by allowing teams the freedom to define their own paths.
Episode Highlights

4:17: Finding Alignment Between Product, Leadership and Engineering
11:21 How to Build Trust in Your Partnerships
16:26 Why Engineers Have to Decide What's Best
22:56 Connecting Your Team’s Purpose to the Company’s Purpose
28:37 Why Netflix Stopped Hiring Only Senior Engineers

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Unveiling the Hidden Side of Org Charts at the NYTimes Jan 16, 2024

In this week's episode of Dev Interrupted, co-host Conor Bronsdon is joined by David Yee, VP of Engineering at the New York Times. They dive into the often unseen aspects of organizational structures, discussing how every organization regardless of their defined values and principles, operates with a 'shadow'.

David discusses the role of senior leaders in addressing systemic problems and navigating the tensions between innovation and consistency. He highlights the importance of recognizing and integrating these organizational shadows to foster better decision-making and operational efficiency.
Drawing from his rich experience leading engineering teams in media, this conversation offers a unique perspective on the complexities of engineering leadership and explores the challenges of aligning technology with the century-old tradition of news reporting at the New York Times.
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Scaling ChatGPT: Inside OpenAI's Rapid Growth and Technical Challenges | Evan Morikawa Jan 09, 2024

What can you learn from the scaling issues OpenAI experienced when Chat-GPT went viral?

On this week’s episode, guest host Ben Lloyd Pearson is joined by Evan Morikawa, Engineering Manager at OpenAI. Join us for a first-hand look at the engineering challenges that came with Chat-GPT’s viral success, and the difficulties associated with scaling in response to the sudden platform popularity.

They also discuss misconceptions around generative AI, OpenAI’s reliance on GPUs to carry out their complex computations, the key role of APIs in their success, and some fascinating use cases they’ve seen implementing GPT-4.
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Wiring The Winning Organization pt. 2 | Gene Kim Jan 02, 2024

Season 4 kicks off with a conversation with Gene Kim, author of several renowned books, including "The Phoenix Project," "The DevOps Handbook," and most recently, "Wiring the Winning Organization."
In this episode, Gene candidly shares the trials behind writing what he considers one of his most challenging books, why it was a joy to partner with Steven Spear as a co-author, and the key principles needed for creating high-performing teams.
Illustrating these ideas, Gene and Conor draw on examples from diverse realms, including the intricacies of software development, the complexities of healthcare, the socio-technical system behind Amazon’s success, and everyday tasks like moving a couch.
Note: This conversation is a follow-up to last year's episode with Steven Spear. You can listen to Steven's episode here.

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Season 3 Finale: Best of 2023, a Glimpse into Season 4, and Holiday Cheer Dec 19, 2023

Hosts Dan Lines, Conor Bronson, and Ben Lloyd Pearson team up for a special holiday edition of Dev Interrupted.
In this season-ending episode, they revisit their favorite moments from Season 3 of the podcast, share a glimpse of what listeners can expect in Season 4, and spread holiday cheer as they reflect on what they're thankful for.
The team is taking a week off to enjoy the holidays. We’ll see you back here on January 2nd for the start of Season 4!

Show Notes:

Dan's favorite episode: Career Journey 1: Interviewing & Getting Promoted
Conor's favorite episode: Tech Hiring in 2023: Trends, Predictions & Strategies for Success
Ben’s favorite episode: The McKinsey Developer Productivity Debate
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Protecting GitHub’s 100M Developers | Jacob DePriest VP, Deputy CSO Dec 12, 2023

What does protecting the more than 100 million developers on GitHub’s platform take? And what can your team learn from GitHub’s impressive security posture?
On this week’s episode, co-host Conor Bronsdon is joined by Jacob DePriest, VP and Deputy Chief Security Officer at GitHub. Join them as they discuss Jacob's journey from the NSA to GitHub, delving into how AI impacts the security space and the future of Copilot's ever-expanding capabilities.
The conversation also explores how enhancing customer trust, investing in diversity within security teams, and bringing security to where developers work are critical in improving security industry-wide.
Whether you’re protecting dozens of users or millions, Jacob has practical advice for engineering leaders everywhere.

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Wrong Fit, Right Fit | Author Dr. André Martin Dec 05, 2023

We are in the middle of a crisis of commitment in the workplace – 53% of managers are burnt out, 1 in 3 employees leave their jobs in the first 90 days, and an estimated $7.8 trillion in lost productivity is due to poor organizational fit.
On this week’s Dev Interrupted, we uncover the keys to a thriving workplace as co-host Conor Bronsdon is joined by Dr. Andre Martin, a seasoned organizational psychologist and author of the book 'Wrong Fit, Right Fit'.
Together, they share strategies to discern whether a job will be a right fit or a wrong fit and delve into how companies can align their structures with individual preferences to enhance employee engagement and productivity. This insightful conversation offers practical strategies for leaders and individuals alike to identify and cultivate the right fit for long-term success and fulfillment in their careers.
Order your copy today: Wrong Fit, Right Fit: Why How We Work Matters More Than Ever
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What Engineering Leaders Can Expect In 2024 | Predictions from Ori Keren Nov 28, 2023

What trends do engineering leaders need to pay attention to, and how will they impact your teams in 2024?
This week, co-host Conor Bronsdon is joined by LinearB co-founder and CEO Ori Keren to discuss his predictions for next year.
Together they discuss why dev team metrics are here to stay, why Ori doesn’t like the term ‘developer productivity’ [hint: he prefers ‘engineering efficiency’], how the rise of gen AI written code will create a problem for development pipelines everywhere, and the potential friction points inherent to remote work.
Ori concludes the episode by offering advice to engineering leaders and startup founders on the need to adopt a metrics program or risk getting left behind.
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Wiring The Winning Organization | Author Dr. Steven J. Spear Nov 21, 2023

The story behind why some organizations win big and keep on winning.
This week, co-host Conor Bronsdon interviews Dr. Steven J. Spear, renowned MIT senior lecturer, founder, and author, to discuss the core principles from Dr. Spear's new book with Gene Kim, "Wiring The Winning Organization".
They delve into why some organizations consistently outperform others, highlighting how the best organizations create systems that enhance problem-solving through slowification, simplification, and amplification, aligning processes with cognitive strengths.
With case studies from NASA's Apollo missions to Apple's smartphone market dominance, the book is a must-read for those looking to harness collective ingenuity for exceptional achievements."
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Labs: Programmable Workflows & Policy-as-Code | Ben Lloyd Pearson Nov 14, 2023

With all of the hype around the future impacts of AI, it can be easy to overlook existing solutions that solve some of the biggest pain points faced by your engineering team.
On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, co-host Conor Bronsdon and LinearB’s Head of Developer Relations, Ben Lloyd Pearson, discuss programmable workflows and how you can apply policy-as-code principles.
Recorded live at the DevOps Enterprise Summit, Conor and Ben explore how gitStream’s programmable workflows can reduce manual effort, facilitate faster feedback loops, and improve developer experience.
They also touch on the gitStream's seamless integrations and its future enhancements.

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Unblock your code reviews with gitStream: https://linearb.io/platform/gitstream

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Career Journey 6: Your Invitation to the Boardroom Nov 07, 2023

Ever wonder what it takes to make it to the boardroom? This week's Dev Interrupted is your invitation to the table.
Join us as Conor Bronsdon puts host Dan Lines in the hot seat to uncover the secrets to rising through the ranks—from IC to engineering leader with a voice in the board meetings. Together, they discuss balancing tough decisions, team well-being, and how to maintain your technical edge while being able to speak in business terms to your CEO.
Strap in for the grand finale of our series—it’s your backstage pass to the boardroom!
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Getting Unstuck in Your Career | Charles Max Wood Oct 31, 2023

Staying on top of emerging trends is difficult enough, so what should you do when your whole career feels, well, stuck?
In this week's episode of Dev Interrupted, join co-host Conor Bronsdon and Charles Max Wood, CEO of Top End Devs, as they delve into overcoming career stagnation for developers. They discuss strategies to reignite momentum in your career, highlighting the importance of effectively showcasing your work, building strong networks, and committing to continuous learning.
Whether you're a newcomer seeking direction or a seasoned professional aiming to stay competitive, this conversation offers valuable insights and practical tools to confidently navigate today's complex tech landscape and get 'unstuck' in your career.

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Learn more at topenddevs.com
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Career Journey 5: Bringing Diversity to Tech Leadership | Bhavini Soneji Oct 24, 2023

We know diversity fuels innovation, so how do we bring diversity into engineering leadership?
On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, Bhavini Soneji joins host Dan Lines for another installment in our series on the career journey of an engineering leader. Bhavini speaks to the synergy between diverse teams and enhanced performance, painting a vivid picture of creativity, insights, and knowledge sharing enriched by varied perspectives.
Bhavini connects these dynamics to a culture of converting intention into action, emphasizing that intentions are just the starting point. If companies are to follow through on their promises, they should apply lean product development principles to the way they think about diversity.
In this must-listen episode, learn how to transform your company’s culture, goal-setting, and hiring practices.

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Connect with Bhavini: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavinisoneji/
Learn more about Bhavini at her website: https://www.bhavinisoneji.com/
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Unpacking DORA’s State of DevOps Report | Nathen Harvey Oct 17, 2023

What does this year’s Accelerate State of DevOps Report 2023 mean for your team?
LinearB & DORA have officially joined forces. On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, co-host Conor Bronsdon interviews Nathen Harvey, Head of Google Cloud’s DORA team.
With data gathered from over 36,000 global professionals, this year’s report investigated how top DevOps performers integrate technical, process, and cultural capabilities into their practices for success.
Listen to learn how your team can focus on three core outcomes of DevOps: enhancing organizational value, boosting team innovation and collaboration, and promoting team member well-being and productivity.

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DORA's 2023 State of DevOps Report
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Career Journey 4: Product-Led & Customer-Obsessed | Bhavini Soneji Oct 10, 2023

In a world where products are plentiful but genuine customer focus is rare, how do you build an engineering org focused on customer needs?
Embark on the 4th chapter of our series on the Career Journey of Engineering Leaders as Dev Interrupted host Dan Lines sits down with the talented, Bhavini Soneji. With a wealth of experience spanning over 25 years and pivotal roles at places like Headspace, Heal, and Microsoft, Bhavini has meticulously honed her approach to creating engineering orgs that prioritize both product innovation and a deep-rooted customer focus.
Listen as Dan and Bhavini unravel what it truly means to be 'customer-obsessed' as well as the secrets to maintaining that fervent customer passion well beyond a product's launch.

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Connect with Bhavini: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavinisoneji/
Learn more about Bhavini at her website: https://www.bhavinisoneji.com/
Register today for LeadDev Berlin: https://leaddev.com/events/leaddev-berlin-2023
Check out all of LeadDev's events at: https://leaddev.com
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Where are all the laid-off software developers going? | LeadDev’s Scott Carey Oct 03, 2023

The news has been filled with stories of layoffs at many of tech’s biggest companies, so where are all those engineers going?
Scott Carey, LeadDev’s Editor-in-Chief, rolled up his sleeves, dusted off his skills as a trained journalist, and set out to answer that question. What he found was a simple question with a complicated answer.
On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, co-host Conor Bronsdon interviews Scott about the shifting job landscape, spotlighting the findings in Scott’s pivotal article, “Where are all the laid-off software developers going?”
Beyond the dynamics shaping the future of tech employment, the two discuss why non-traditional tech companies have difficulty hiring engineers [hint: it’s not money!], whether or not the “boom times are over,” and the major trends LeadDev is seeing within the engineering community.

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Career Journey 3: Assembling & Nurturing Engineering Teams | Code Story's Noah Labhart Sep 26, 2023

With great power comes great responsibility. Now that you've been promoted to a people manager, how do you build a healthy and successful engineering team?
Extending our series on the career journey of engineering leader, co-host Conor Bronsdon is joined by Noah Labhart, co-founder & CTO at Veryable, and host of the popular podcast Code Story.
Conor and Noah shift the series' focus to the intricacies of building effective engineering teams. Beyond team building, the episode delves into the subtleties of offering and accepting feedback, the importance of hiring developers vs. programmers, and fostering an environment where each individual can flourish.
If you haven’t listened to the first two episodes of our leadership series featuring NuBank's Thiago Ghisi, you can find them on Dev Interrupted's new website.

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Download The 2023 Engineering Benchmarks Report: https://linearb.io/resources/software-engineering-benchmarks-report
Listen to Code Story at codestory.co
Learn more about Noah on his website noahlabhart.com
Or find Noah on his LinkedIn linkedin.com/in/noahlabhart
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The McKinsey Developer Productivity Debate | Ori Keren & Kelly Vaughn Sep 19, 2023

The debate on measuring developer productivity has arrived - and it’s here to stay.
On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, cohost Conor Bronsdon welcomes LinearB cofounder & CEO Ori Keren and Kelly Vaughn, Director of Engineering at Spot AI, to offer their critiques of a debate that has captured the attention of the engineering community: can you measure developer productivity?
Consulting giant McKinsey published an article that ignited a firestorm, prompting industry leaders Kent Beck and Gergely Orosz to counter with a detailed 2-part response via the Pragmatic Engineer.
Believing the industry to be at a crossroads, Ori and Kelly combine forces to offer their perspective on the debate, sharing why it’s an opportunity for dev teams everywhere to “roll out metrics the right way.”

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The McKinsey article: Yes, you can measure software developer productivity
Orosz & Beck 1: Measuring developer productivity? A response to McKinsey, Part 1
Orosz & Beck 2: Measuring developer productivity? A response to McKinsey, Part 2
CTO Board Slides
Kelly's newsletter: Lessons in Engineering Leadership
Register for the 2023 Engineering Benchmarks Report Release Webinar

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Career Journey 2: Essential Skills & Key Attributes | Thiago Ghisi Sep 12, 2023

Once you've taken that step into leadership, what foundational skills and attitudes will carry you forward throughout your career?
Continuing our series on the career journey of an engineering leader, host Dan Lines once again welcomes Thiago Ghisi, Director of Engineering at Nubank.
In this second episode, they pivot the discussion from the initial steps of becoming an engineering manager to the more nuanced subject of building a robust foundation as a leader. The episode explores the essential skills, the dos and don'ts, and the philosophies that can guide engineering leaders to make an enduring impact on their teams and projects.
Tune in as we unravel the core principles and practices that underpin success.

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Read Scaling People: Tactics for Management and Company Building
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Career Journey 1: Interviewing & Getting Promoted | Thiago Ghisi Sep 05, 2023

How do you become an engineering leader? Is it the right fit for your career? And if you do, how do you become a good one?
In this multi-part series on the career journey of an engineering leader, Dev Interrupted answers these questions and many more by inviting expert guests from the software industry to share their experiences, lessons, failures and triumphs as leaders. Whether you started your career today - or 20 years ago - this series has something for everyone.
In our first episode, host Dan Lines is joined by Thiago Ghisi, Director of Engineering at Nubank. Together, they explore the nuances of beginning a career as an engineering manager: from acing the interview process and securing a promotion to confidently navigating your first 3 weeks on the job.
Join us for a series of real-world lessons and insights from top engineering leaders.

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Using HEAT Metrics to Bring Purpose to Platforms | Simone Casciaroli Aug 29, 2023

In an industry buzzing with enthusiasm for Engineering Platforms, many are developed without a clear product vision, leading to poor adoption or even hindering organizational performance.
On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, cohost Conor Bronsdon talks with Simone Casciaroli, Head of Engineering at Onto. We first encountered Simone's insights at LeadDev New York and immediately knew he'd be the perfect guest to discuss how to build engineering platforms using the right metrics.
Join us as Conor and Simone delve into the HEAT metrics and explore how they dovetail with established engineering standards like DORA. The episode rounds off with an engaging discussion about electric vehicle startup Onto.
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Read more from Simone at his website: simonecasciaroli.com
Follow Simone on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonecasciaroli/

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Going Global: Establishing a Team and Office Abroad | Kelly Vaughn Aug 22, 2023

Considering expanding your engineering team overseas? While daunting, the rewards could outweigh the challenges.
On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, co-host Conor Bronsdon welcomes Kelly Vaughn, Director of Engineering at Spot AI, back to the show. One of our most listened-to voices, Kelly dissects the decision-making process behind opening a new office - from the long list of potential countries to the myriad factors that clinched the decision.
Outside of the big picture stuff like navigating timezones and culture differences, Kelly also shares valuable insights on ground-level practices, such as the importance of local recruiters and strategies for discussing equities and contractor partnerships.
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Books from today's podcast: The Culture Map & Crucial Conversations

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Is Internal Tooling Holding Your Team Back? | DevZero’s Debosmit Ray Aug 15, 2023

The wrong internal tools can hold your team back. So how do you find the right ones, and how the heck do you get engineers to adopt them once you do?
On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, co-host Conor Bronsdon welcomes Debo Ray, co-founder & CEO of DevZero, to discuss the challenges developers face due to inadequate tools. With a keen sense of developers' needs, Debo explains why many companies fail in this domain, squandering precious dev time.
Debo also offers a peek into the future of cloud development, the work he's doing at DevZero, and the nuances of marketing tools to developers.

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The Essence of Shipping Code: a CTO's Perspective | Flowcode’s Mike Hamrah Aug 08, 2023

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, host Dan Lines speaks with Mike Hamrah, CTO at Flowcode. Together, the two detail the fundamental responsibility of developers and tech leaders: shipping code.
Mike shares a candid view of the industry's current state, lamenting how the focus on code shipping is getting lost amidst the complexities of agile methodologies, stand-up meetings, and sprint planning. He urges developers and leaders alike to recenter their conversations on the essence of their roles, serving as a call to action in the episode and reminding listeners of the importance of understanding what code needs to be written and the purpose it serves, all while avoiding detrimental practices that can hinder long-term development success.
Dan and Mike end the episode with a conversation on goalsetting and OKRs, translating classic business goals into engineering execution and emphasizing the need to turn general business goals into concrete, actionable plans.

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Learn more about Flowcode at flowcode.com
Flowcode is hiring!

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Labs: The Evolution of Continuous Merge | DevCycle’s Nik LeBlanc Aug 01, 2023

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, co-host Conor Bronsdon and Ben Lloyd Pearson, LinearB’s Director of Developer Relations, detail the evolution of Continuous Merge and the tool behind it, gitStream. Joining the conversation is Nik LeBlanc, VP of Engineering at DevCycle.
Nik shares the ways his team is using gitStream to streamline code reviews and offers practical advice for anyone looking to implement the tool on their own team. He also explores the somewhat controversial practice of splitting up and reshuffling engineering teams, a strategy that DevCycle has used to great effect. Nik finds that this practice helps balance teams, manage diverse knowledge bases, and de-risk the organization.
Conor and Ben wrap up the conversation by casting an eye on the future, focusing on the potential and direction of gitStream.
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Guide to Continuous Merge Standards
Every pull request is unique: treat them that way with gitStream

About DevCycle

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AI Tooling For Your Dev Team: To Adopt or Not to Adopt? | CodiumAI's Itamar Friedman Jul 25, 2023

Amid the escalating buzz surrounding AI tools, many development teams grapple with deciding which ones suit their needs best, when to adopt them, and the potential risks of not doing so. As AI continues to pose more questions than answers, the fear of falling behind the competition lurks for many.

This week's episode of Dev Interrupted aims to dispel these uncertainties by welcoming CodiumAI’s founder & CEO, Itamar Friedman. In one of our most illuminating discussions this year, Itamar pierces through the AI hype, explaining what AI tools bring to the table, how to discern the ones that would truly augment your dev teams, and the strategies to efficiently identify and experiment with new tools.
Beyond the allure of AI, Itamar doesn't shy away from addressing its pitfalls and adversarial risks. He also probes into the future of the developer's role in an increasingly AI-driven landscape, answering the question: “Will there be developers in 10 years?”
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Learn more about CodiumAI
Read CodiumAI's blog
Codium's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/codiumai
Itamar's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/itamarf/
Itamar's Twitter: @itamar_mar

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Have Engineering Leaders Become Too Hands-off? | Braze's Francisco Trindade Jul 18, 2023

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, co-host Conor Bronsdon welcomes Francisco Trindade, Director of Engineering at Braze, to discuss strategies to improve collaboration and effectiveness within engineering teams.
Francisco notes a shift in the tech industry over the past decade from focusing on rapid hiring and individual growth to a need for more effective team dynamics. Criticizing the tech industry's aversion to micromanagement, he argues that it has inadvertently resulted in a lack of focus on team effectiveness and proposes a renewed emphasis on fostering productive environments for engineers to fully realize their potential.

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Reimagining DORA Metrics & Leveraging Feature Flags | Split's Ariel Perez Jul 11, 2023

Does the emergence of feature flags affect the interpretation and utility of DORA metrics?
On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, host Dan Lines and Ariel Perez, VP of Engineering at Split.io, discuss the state of DORA metrics and whether they need reimaging in a world of feature flags. Listen as Ariel explains why he believes feature flags are more than a tool, and have begun to reshape our understanding of software development and the metrics we use to measure it.
Dan and Ariel also touch on how feature flags can drastically reduce lead time and mean time to recover, and conclude their chat with an intriguing look at the granular nature of control in the modern software engineering landscape, where the unit of control has shifted from the application as a whole to individual features.
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The Art of Landing a DevRel Role | daily.dev's Francesco Ciulla Jul 04, 2023

In this week's episode of Dev Interrupted, we’re focusing on the increasingly valuable role of DevRels. Francesco Ciulla, Developer Advocate at the open-source daily.dev community - which has more than 100,000 daily active users - joins us for a DevRel deep dive.
Listen as Francesco explains how a career change in his thirties set him on a path towards becoming a developer, being hired by the European Space Agency and, eventually, landing a role as a developer advocate, crediting much of his success on his ability to leverage social media to advance his career.
Outside of his personal story, Francesco shares his thoughts on connecting with devs, why YouTube is such a powerful platform and settles the debate on the kind of content developers are most interested in.

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Labs: Inside the Top 10% of Engineering Orgs Jun 27, 2023

Fact: You can’t become better at anything unless you understand what getting better would actually look like. This is especially true in the case of engineering teams.
Following the analysis of 2,000 dev teams and over 4 million code branches, the 2023 Engineering Benchmarks report is out.
To walk us through the performance metrics of the top 10% of engineering teams, LinearB’s Head of Developer Relations Ben Lloyd Pearson makes his first Dev Interrupted appearance.
From how long elite teams take to complete code tasks to the size of their pull requests, this is a great episode to understand where your dev team stands and where they have concrete room to improve.
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You Are What You Build: Making Your Code More Human | GitHub’s Christina Entcheva Jun 20, 2023

The world is what we make it. Tech - and AI - follow the same principles.
On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, we sit down with Christina Enchevta, a Director of Engineering at GitHub, to unravel the link between the values we hold and the things we build. We delve into how AI applications mirror our values, intentionally or not, and how this can lead to surprising outcomes, no matter how benevolent our intentions.
Christina also shares practical advice for engineering leaders on how to take and provide constructive feedback, dismantle information silos, and infuse your values into the product development process.
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Healthcare’s Digital Accessibility Problem | Ro’s Plum Ertz Jun 13, 2023

The push for digital accessibility aims to ensure equal access and inclusion for all individuals. So why are healthcare companies failing to keep up?
In this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, we sit down with Plum Ertz, Director of Engineering at Ro, to dissect healthcare’s digital accessibility problem. Following explosive growth in telemedicine due to consumer behavior changes brought on by the pandemic, the healthcare industry has struggled to provide accessible healthcare services on the internet, regardless of the technology or disability someone may have. Plum sheds light on the work being done at Ro to address these challenges, emphasizing the simple steps that teams can take to enhance their digital accessibility.
Plum also shares stories from her time at Buzzfeed, where she accidentally took down the entire site after forgetting a semicolon and once mistakenly calling a midterm election 5 hours too early.
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Decoding Duolingo: Returning to the Office, Enabling First-Time Managers & More | Fabio Lessa Jun 06, 2023

Remote, hybrid, or in-office? Opinions are divided on what has quickly become one of the most controversial topics in tech: Should we return to the office and if so, how and when?
On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, we sit down with Duolingo’s Sr. Director of Engineering Fabio Lessa, to discuss how to successfully transition your engineering org back to the office - and why Duolingo has done it so successfully. [Hint: it all starts with culture.]
Fabio also discusses Duolingo’s training program for first-time managers, the transition from IC to team lead, and tips to roll out a training program at your company.
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Labs: The Magic of Compound Efficiencies in Engineering May 30, 2023

As the milestone book Atomic Habits laid out, the key to life-changing habits is adopting one effectively and then layering another desirable habit on top of it.
The same is true for efficiencies in software engineering.
When your team adopts one efficiency, sees it bear fruit, then adds the next efficiency habit on top of it, the result is compounding efficiencies.
In this conversation, LinearB’s CTO Yishai Beeri reveals the data on compound efficiencies as experienced by real dev teams out in the wild.
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From Twitter Spaces to Independent Artists: Leading Org-Based Innovation | Pablo Jablonski May 23, 2023

Imagine a future where anyone can be a musician. Now ask yourself what that has in common with building Twitter Spaces. The answer? Org-based innovation.
On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, we’re joined by the talented Pablo Jablonski, the engineer responsible for leading the team behind Spaces. Today, Pablo is reshaping the music industry as the VP of Engineering at United Masters.
In this free-flowing conversation we unravel the intricacies of building Spaces, discuss Twitter’s pivotal role in public discourse and break down some of the historic challenges faced by Twitter’s engineering team.
Pablo also explores how United Masters is bridging the gap between artists and their dreams, empowering them to take control of their own destinies. Taking cues from his time at Twitter, Pablo and his team are building a platform that aims to dismantle the music industry’s traditional hierarchies.

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Exploring the Capabilities of eBPF | Author Liz Rice May 16, 2023

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, we talk to Liz Rice, Chief Open Source Officer at Isovalent, and author of the book Learning eBPF: Programming the Linux Kernel for Enhanced Observability, Networking, and Security.
Liz is an expert on open source, containers, and cloud-native technologies, and joins us to discuss her book, what she describes as some of the eBPF "superpowers" people are talking about, and some of the fascinating projects surrounding eBPF like Project Kepler.
Liz also gives advice to engineers looking to try their hand at writing a book.
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Check out Liz's book: https://isovalent.com/learning-ebpf/
Isovalent's labs: https://isovalent.com/resource-library/labs/

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Tech Hiring in 2023: Trends, Predictions & Strategies for Success | Datapeople's Maryam Jahanshahi May 09, 2023

The tech industry has seen a significant change in the skills, qualifications, and titles listed in job postings over the past few years. What does that mean for companies - and for the candidates themselves?
On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, we talk to Maryam Jahanshahi co-founder and Head of R&D at Datapeople, who breaks down the biggest hiring trends in tech from title inflation to salary transparency and the skyrocketing costs of recruitment.
Maryam also discusses how the storytelling skills she picked up from data analysis have improved her abilities as a founder.
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Upskilling Your Eng Team: The Problem with the Modern Approach to Learning | Skiller Whale's Hywel Carver May 02, 2023

Do our personal learning preferences actually affect how well we learn? And what makes learning new skills - like a programming language - so hard in the first place?

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, we’re joined by Hywel Carver, founder & CEO at Skiller Whale. An expert in the principles and practices behind learning and knowledge retention, Hywel walks us through the best learning techniques for engineers.
He also discusses how engineering leaders can upskill their teams without hiring additional staff, why modern approaches to learning often fall short (think YouTube), and why there is no evidence to support the idea that personal learning styles, such as visual or kinesthetic, impact learning outcomes.
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Redefining Incident Response: Insights from the Chaos Engineer Behind Jeli.io | Nora Jones Apr 25, 2023

If you think your org doesn’t have any incidents, it’s time to change your definition of an incident.
This week we’re joined by Nora Jones, Jeli's founder & CEO, to help us make sense of incident analysis and explain why so many incidents go underreported. Before beginning her journey as a founder, Nora helped pioneer chaos engineering at companies like Netflix and Slack where she developed a passion for understanding the intersection of software and people.
A stellar engineer, manager & founder, we caught up with Nora on the heels of her keynote address at the LeadDev conference in New York.
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Coding Your Dreams into Reality: Lessons from an Engineer turned Entrepreneur | ButterCMS Jake Lumetta Apr 18, 2023

Engineers make great entrepreneurs. So a startup that has two engineers as its founders must be twice as good, right? Not exactly.
On this week's episode of Dev Interrupted, we talk to Jake Lumetta, founder & CEO of ButterCMS. A serial entrepreneur, Jake found success (and failure) with numerous startups before striking it big with ButterCMS.
He joins us today to discuss practical advice for engineers-turned-entrepreneurs, like knowing when to step away from the keyboard and handover the codebase, why building a B2B startup is so much easier than building a B2C, and why two engineers founding a company together isn't always a good idea.
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Surviving SVB's Collapse & Outsmarting Uber | Kyte's Nick Cobb Apr 11, 2023

It hasn't been smooth sailing for startups this year. As this week's guest Nick Cobb puts it "You can add bank runs to the list of things founders have to deal with." Of course, it hasn't been easy going for engineering leaders either.
That's why Nick, the VP of Engineering & Head of Product at Kyte, sat down with us to discuss how to build an engineering culture with a bias toward action, why he deleted his team's staging environment, and what it takes to outmaneuver his former employer, Uber.
An angel investor, Nick also touches on the aftershocks of the SVB crash and its lasting effects on the startup community.
Recorded live at LeadDev New York, this episode is a must-listen for engineering leaders who want to place product innovation in the driver's seat of their engineering org.

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The Art of Community Building | Postman's Joyce Lin Apr 04, 2023

What does building an engaged community really mean for your business?
When we look at a company like Postman with over 20 million active users and one of the most passionate groups of evangelizers in tech, we find that Postman's story is really a story of community success. In fact, after product-market fit, community has become a must-have for any startup looking to survive. But community building is a tricky thing, so where and how do you start?
On this week's episode of Dev Interrupted, listen as Joyce Lin, Head of Developer Relations at Postman, shares the secrets and behind-the-scenes lessons learned from building one of the most successful communities in tech. Joyce is also an expert TikToker, diving into its algorithm, its relevance for developers, and whether or not engineering leaders should devote attention to building a community on the platform.
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DevOps is the Philosophy, Platform is the Practice | Humanitec's Kaspar von Grünberg Mar 28, 2023

"DevOps is dead."
Well, not exactly. But the DevOps methodology of "you build it, you run it" has been failing development teams for years.
On this week's episode of Dev Interrupted, we sit down with Kaspar von Grünberg, founder & CEO of Humanitec. Listen as Kaspar explains the significant cognitive load placed on developers as a result of DevOps practices, how that has caused software engineering to be the only industry since Medieval times not to drive towards specialization, and why platform engineers provide a solution to the outdated DevOps model.
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What is platform engineering?
Implementing Dynamic Configuration Management with Score and Humanitec
Attend PlatformCon 2023 June 8th and 9th

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Team Topologies: Organizing Business & Technology Teams | Authors Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais Mar 21, 2023

Effective software teams are essential for any organization to deliver value continuously and sustainably. But how do you build the best team organization for your specific goals, culture, and needs?
That's the question posed by authors Matthew Skelton and Manuel Pais in their highly-acclaimed book, Team Topologies: Organizing Business and Technology Teams for Fast Flow.
On this week's episode of Dev Interrupted, we revisit Dan's 2021 conversation with Matthew and Manuel. Since first airing, their book has received broad recognition for its step-by-step advice, approach to team patterns and interactions, and compelling analysis of the communication pathways that lead to organizational success.
We think this episode is as relevant today as it was when it was released - and we hope you agree!
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Learn more at teamtopologies.com
Check out the Team Topologies Academy: https://academy.teamtopologies.com

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Developer Experience: It’s Time to Start Complaining | Gradle's Justin Reock Mar 14, 2023

It's time to make noise. Developers need to take back their happiness and their productivity. But where should they start?
On this week's episode of Dev Interrupted, we're joined by Justin Reock, Field CTO and Chief Evangelist at Gradle. With a mission to mitigate the toil, friction, and frustration felt by so many developers, Justin has become a tireless advocate of Developer Productivity Engineering.
Listen as Justin explains DPE by exploring the connections between productivity, developer experience, and joy.
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Reinventing IBM: DevSecOps, AI, Quantum Computing | Rosalind Radcliffe Mar 07, 2023

No company is immune to transformation, not even one with as storied a history as IBM.
This week on Dev Interrupted, Rosalind Radcliffe, the CIO DevSecOps CTO at IBM, joins us to chat about how one of tech's greatest legacy companies is positioning itself for the future.
Rosalind shares what it means to be named an IBM Fellow, her work to bring DevOps and open source to the z/OS environment, and what the future looks like at IBM. [Hint: it involves quantum computing and AI!]

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Solving the Enduring Pain of Authorization | Aserto’s Omri Gazitt Feb 28, 2023

Whether you're at a startup, enterprise, or something in between, authorization and access control are likely major pain points for your team.
This week on Dev Interrupted we talk to Omri Gazitt, co-founder and CEO of Aserto. Omri joins us to chat about the future of authorization, how to handle access control on your team, and how to avoid the toil and tech debt often associated with access control.
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From Aserto's blog: Why multi-tenant SaaS applications need real access control from day 1

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Labs: The Science Of Allocating Dev Resources In 2023 Feb 21, 2023

The days of growth at all costs are over; your 2023 engineering strategy needs to be about scaling efficiently.
In the first Labs episode of the year, Dan invites LinearB's VP of Product, Eran Shitrit, on the show to discuss how teams are proactively addressing concerns around cost reduction and efficiency through smarter project allocation.
Dan and Eran also discuss the rollout of LinearB's resource allocation dashboard and the success of the Scaling Developer Efficiency workshop.
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Watch the Scaling Developer Efficiency workshop on LinearB's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-wpLDnMpX0

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Can Value Stream Management Solve DevOps‘ Struggles? | Steve Pereira Feb 14, 2023

A decades-old physical goods manufacturing concept is being applied to modern dev teams with great results. What can software development learn from the past?
Value Stream Management (VSM) has been a focus of business and manufacturing for years but big tech has only recently taken notice.
Steve Pereira, a.k.a. "The VSM Guy", joins us to talk about what engineering leaders can learn from VSM, its impact on individual and team workflow, how it differs from Agile and DevOps, and why its emphasis on the creation and delivery of value represents an opportunity for dev teams everywhere.
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The Problem with MTTR: Learning from Incident Reports | Courtney Nash Feb 07, 2023

Tracking Mean Time To Restore (MTTR) is standard industry practice for incident response and analysis, but should it be?
Courtney Nash, an Internet Incident Librarian, argues that MTTR is not a reliable metric - and we think she's got a point.
We caught up with Courtney at the DevOps Enterprise Summit in Las Vegas, where she was making her case against MTTR in favor of alternative metrics (SLOs and cost of coordination data), practices (Near Miss analysis), and mindsets (humans are the solution, not the problem) to help organization better learn from their incidents.
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The Rise of Vector Search | Pinecone's Edo Liberty Jan 31, 2023

We're still in January and AI might already be the buzzword of 2023 - and for good reason. AI powered startups have been layoff resistant and machine learning engineers are one of the fastest growing jobs, not in tech, but in the entire economy.
This week, we sit down with Pinecone Founder and CEO, Edo Liberty. An AI and machine learning expert, Edo graduated from Yale with a PhD in Applied Mathematics and worked as Head of Amazon’s AI Labs before founding Pinecone.
Listen as he explains why the biggest AI and machine learning companies in the world - Google, Amazon, Meta and TikTok - use vector search to power their products.
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Pinecone is hiring! https://www.pinecone.io/careers/

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Connecting Your Devs' Work to the Business | A Conversation with Shopify, Slack & Stripe Jan 24, 2023

"Is my team solving the right problem?"
To answer this seemingly simple question, we assembled a panel of some of the smartest engineering leaders we know and asked them how they answer this question with their own teams.
Featuring Rukmini Reddy, SVP of Platform Engineering at Slack, James Stanier, Dir. of Engineering at Shopify, and Smruti Patel, VP of Engineering at Apollo, the following conversation debuted in front of a live audience at the Interact engineering conference.
Originally an exclusive conversation for Interact attendees, we listened to our fans and decided to drop the full conversation as an episode of the podcast.

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This panel was filmed in October prior to many of the recent layoffs that have been in the news.
When this panel was recorded Smruti Patel worked at Stripe. She has since taken a job with Apollo.

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The Journey to Code Mastery | Marqeta's Randy Kern Jan 17, 2023

Randy Kern, CTO at Marqeta, thinks that every engineer should "go deep" - all the way to understanding the transistors if you have to. He implores us never to be satisfied with black boxes, believing that it's not only risky not to understand what your code is really doing, but it's not fun either.
We love this episode because Randy's joy is infectious. He reminds us why we got into software engineering in the first place. If you've been looking for a reminder yourself, this is the episode for you.
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Startup Growth & Metrics: What to Measure & When | Laura Tacho Jan 10, 2023

As your startup scales it's not enough to know what to measure - you have to know WHEN to measure. Metrics that are important in one growth phase might not be in the next.
To help us make sense of it all, we invited Laura Tacho onto the show. Laura is a VP of Engineering & Leadership Coach, and an expert when it comes to startup growth and metrics, having worked with over 125 different companies.
We love this episode because it takes a team-first approach to metrics and then relates those metrics back to the growth of your organization. Whether you are a seasoned engineering leader or an IC trying to understand where your team is headed, this unique take on metrics will set your team up for success - and happiness - in 2023.
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https://lauratacho.com/

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Educating the Next Generation of Cloud Engineers | Google Cloud's Forrest Brazeal Jan 03, 2023

Happy New Year and welcome to Season 3 of Dev Interrupted!
We couldn't think of a better way to kick off Season 3 of the podcast than with the immensely talented Forrest Brazeal.
Not only is Forrest the Head of Developer Media at Google Cloud, but he lists being a writer, speaker, cartoonist, cloud architect and AWS Serverless Hero, among his many accolades.
To top it all off, Forrest is an all around great guy with a passion for education and advocacy. That's why he's working to help educate, train and develop the next generation of cloud engineers. But he needs your help.
Listen as Forrest explains why so many great engineers get overlooked by companies - and how to stop it.

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Cloud Resume Challenge
Google Cloud Next '22 Developer Keynote: Top 10 Cloud Technology Predictions

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Season 2 Finale: Holidays, 2022’s Favorite Moments, Season 3 Sneak Peek & more! Dec 20, 2022

Sit back, relax, grab your favorite beverage and listen as Dev Interrupted co-hosts Dan Lines & Conor Bronsdon recap the Season 2 of the podcast.
In this special episode, our co-hosts describe their perfect holiday meal, share some of their favorite moments from the past year (personal and professional!) and give a sneak peek at what the audience can expect from Season 3 of the podcast.
From our family to yours, have a wonderful holiday season and we’ll see you on January 3rd for Season 3!

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Dan's favorite interview: Charity Majors
Dan's favorite topic: Ship/Show/Ask
Conor's favorite interview: Kelly Vaughn
Conor's favorite episode: Discord
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It’s Not Open Source, It’s You. Where Open Source Risk Comes From w/ Sonatype Dec 13, 2022

Picture this: an auto manufacturer with no clue what parts are in its supply chain, where those parts come from and no ability to recall those parts if vulnerabilities are discovered.
That’s not a reality consumers would accept. So why do organizations (and manufacturers!) tolerate it when it comes to software?
On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, Brian Fox, co-founder & CTO, and Stephen Magill, VP of Product Innovation, join us to talk about Sonatype’s State of the Software Supply Chain Report.
Listen as Brian and Stephen explain the ins and outs of open source risk management, how companies that aren’t open source maintainers can do a better job protecting themselves and why cybercrime is like “VC funds for the bad guys.”

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8th Annual State of the Software Supply Chain Report

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Treating Devs Like Human Beings | A Conversation with Kelly Vaughn, Jean Hsu & Lena Reinhard Dec 06, 2022

Sometimes among all the sprints, the pressure to ship faster, tools to measure lines of code written, it seems like we as an industry forget a simple fact: developers are knowledge workers, not robots
To remind us what it means to be a human, we invited some of the most empathetic engineering leaders we know to Interact and asked them to sit on a panel together. The conversation that followed is one of the most insightful and relevant conversations we've heard all year. Whether you are an IC, manager or manager of managers, we promise this conversation will help you become a more empathetic leader and colleague.
Today's episode of Dev Interrupted features Kelly Vaughn, Director of Engineering at Spot AI; Jean Hsu, VP of Engineering at Range; and Lena Reinhard, an engineering leadership coach.
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Gene Kim + The Rise and Fall of DevOps | Conversations from DevOps Enterprise Summit Nov 29, 2022

Dev Interrupted takes a detour to Vegas!
In a first for the show, we took the podcast on the road to attend the DevOps Enterprise Summit in Las Vegas.
While at DOES, we had the pleasure of interviewing Gene Kim, famed researcher and author of "The Phoenix Project" and "Accelerate".
Also attending DOES were friends of the podcast Bryan and Dana Finster, whose presentation on the Rise and Fall of DevOps inspired us to invite them onto the pod.
Listen to this two-part episode as Gene breaks down all things DevOps past, present and future, while the Finsters present their case for platform teams, project ownership and how to win the trust that binds good dev teams.
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Recap all of DevOps Enterprise Summit 2022, December 6th-8th

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Economic Downturn is No Excuse to Use Individual Metrics w/ Ori Keren, Co-Founder & CEO of LinearB Nov 22, 2022

Bad habits have a way of resurfacing during difficult times. Unfortunately for engineering teams everywhere, this is one of those times.
In this topical episode of Dev Interrupted, LinearB co-founders Dan Lines & Ori Keren discuss the current macroeconomic climate, its effect on engineering teams, and why individual metrics are - and should remain - a relic of days gone by.
Our heart goes out to anyone who has been affected by the layoffs across the tech industry. Please reach out to the Dev Interrupted community if there is any way we can help.

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Why Startups Suck at Security w/ Vanta's Head of Engineering, Matt Spitz Nov 15, 2022

When your startup is struggling to find its product-market fit, security is the last thing on your mind - and according to security expert Matt Spitz, that’s perfectly fine!
Matt is Vanta's Head of Engineering and he joins this week's episode of Dev Interrupted to explain everything you ever wanted to know about startups and security.
Matt debunks the real security risks we face (think S3 buckets, not nation states), how to create a company culture that embraces security and when your startup needs to start caring about all this stuff.
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Leading Engineers in Uncertain Times | A Conversation with CircleCI, Blockchain.com & Oliver Wyman Nov 08, 2022

It's no secret this has been a difficult year for many companies in tech. The truth is, it's easy to be a leader when times are good. It's less easy in the midst of a storm.
That's why we assembled a panel of some of the smartest engineering leaders we know at Interact to talk about the leadership principles that help guide an engineering organization no matter what is happening in the world.
Today's episode of Dev Interrupted features Michael Stahnke, VP of Platform at CircleCI; Lewis Tuff, VP of Engineering at Blockchain.com; and Carolyn Vo, Partner & Head of Engineering at Oliver Wyman.
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The Promise of Platform Engineering w/ Charity Majors, CTO at Honeycomb Nov 01, 2022

Live from Interact, we're bringing you an interview with our favorite CTO, Charity Majors.
Never one to be shy about speaking her mind, Charity is an outspoken advocate for devs everywhere - and this passion made her a fan favorite at Interact.
Listen as Charity discusses her career, why the hierarchy is bullshit (disclaimer: she likes to swear - we like that about her), and why platform engineering is the most exciting place to sit in computing today.
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Interact: A Word From Your Co-Hosts Oct 25, 2022

Hosts Dan Lines & Conor Bronsdon remind listeners that Interact is today - October 25th - and why it's the must-attend event for engineering leaders.
They also rundown some of the most exciting speakers at Interact, why they are so proud of what the event has become - and which of the two is Robin to the other's Batman.
Join Dan & Conor and thousands of other engineering leaders at Interact.
Watch them live from 8am-2pm PDT today: https://hopin.com/events/interact-october#schedule
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Why Discord is Betting Big on Devs w/ Anjney Midha VP of Platform Ecosystem at Discord Oct 18, 2022

How does a platform with 150 million monthly active users build for the future? In a word: Developers.
Discord is betting big that the future of their company, their product and their community is in supporting developers - and they're putting their money where their mouth is.
On this week's episode of Dev Interrupted, Anjney Midha, Discord's VP of Platform Ecosystem, sits down with us to discuss Discord's past, present and future.
In this incredible episode, Anjney details Discord's recent product announcement, its spiritual connection to gaming, and why a totally moddable platform is the key to user experience.
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Where Did All The Focus Time Go? Dissecting 1.5 Million Meetings w/ Clockwise's VP of Engineering, Dan Kador Oct 11, 2022

Where has all the focus time gone? Why does there seem to be less of it at big companies than at startups? And do managers really have as little as they claim?
It should come as no surprise to our listeners that we're big fans of data here at Dev Interrupted. The coolest thing about having Dan Kador, VP of Engineering at Clockwise, on the show is that he brings data we already intuitively understood but could not quantify.
Armed with data from 1.5 million meetings, 80,000 engineers and over 5,000 companies, this episode answers every question your engineering team has wondered about meetings - and might just reaffirm every suspicion you've had too.
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The 2022 Software Engineering Meeting Benchmark Report
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Labs: The Best & Worst Programming Languages For Dev Workflow Oct 04, 2022

The argument about which programming language reigns supreme is about to get a lot more clear with the release of research on the best and worst languages for dev workflow.

In this episode of LinearB Labs, CTO Yishai Beeri reveals what the company’s data scientists have discovered about programming-language productivity following analysis of thousands of dev teams and hundreds of thousands of pull requests.

Industry-changing research on which programming languages linger under excessively long shipping lifespans and which ones are impressively efficient, this pod should help settle debates that have been entirely subjective up to this point.

If your programming language of choice ends up on the wrong side of the spectrum, don’t fret. Yishai and team also came up with recommendations to overcome the hurdles and bottlenecks for languages that require better workflow.

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Atlassian’s Eye-Opening State of Teams Report w/ Mark Cruth Modern Work Evangelist Sep 27, 2022

When you get the chance to geek out over the metrics behind happy dev teams, you take it.

As one of the companies shaping how the modern workforce, well… works, Atlassian is one of the foremost thought leaders in the space thanks to an amazing research and data team.

Case in point: Atlassian’s State of Teams Report.

In this week’s episode, modern work evangelist Mark Cruth takes us through the most interesting, insightful and counterintuitive findings from their deep dive on what is separating healthy teams from unhealthy ones.

From whether hybrid or in-office is the best for modern teams to what work principles are the most important to keep in a remote world, this conversation about the State of Teams report is an eye-opener for anyone whose success depends on the work of others.

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Ship/Show/Ask - A Branching Strategy for Modern Dev Teams w/ Author & Eng Leader Rouan Wilsenach Sep 20, 2022

Branching strategy has been reimagined. Meet the mind behind it.

In his first-ever podcast appearance, Rouan Wilsenach, author of Ship/Show/Ask: A Modern Branching Strategy, joins Dev Interrupted to talk about his work as an author and the inspiration behind his musings on branching strategy.

If you haven’t already read Ship/Show/Ask, you can find it on Martin Fowler’s website. It’s one of the most influential articles we’ve read in years.

Rouan has been more than an inspiration, he’s changed the way our dev teams work at LinearB - and he might just change yours too.

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We Solved Dev Infrastructure, So Why Does it Suck to Build Stuff? w/ Hasura's Tanmai Gopal Sep 13, 2022

In the last decade there have been enormous advances in infrastructure and ops, so why does it suck to build stuff?

That’s the question Tanmai Gopal kept asking himself before founding his company, Hasura. Now, as Hasura’s CEO he’s channeling his chaotic energy in order to solve this problem.

This week’s episode of Dev Interrupted implores listeners to forget about pivoting (it’s just the story other people impose on your journey), shames backend devs for their elitist tendencies and asks why, if Netflix won the battle for infrastructure, are they losing the streaming wars to Disney?

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Lessons Learned from Programming at Google w/ Hyrum Wright & Titus Winters Sep 06, 2022

Today, we are releasing the full interview of one of our favorite episodes: Dan’s 2021 conversation with engineers-turned-authors, Hyrum Wright & Titus Winters.

As two of the most senior staff engineers at Google, both guests brought a deep understanding of software engineering to the show: Hyrum is semi-famous as the "Hyrum" of Hyrum's Law; while Titus is responsible for managing 250 million lines of code.

In their brilliant book Software Engineering at Google: Lessons Learned from Programming Over Time, Hyrum & Titus explore the engineering practices that make one of the largest codebases in the world sustainable and healthy.

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The Day-1 Decisions that Make or Break Companies w/ PlanetScale's CEO Sam Lambert Aug 27, 2022

Your early tech stack decisions won’t ensure long term success, but they can certainly set you up for long term failure.

Pragmatists rejoice! This week’s episode of Dev Interrupted features Sam Lambert, CEO & President of PlanetScale, a tech leader known as the ‘Oracle of Pragmatism’.

In a winding conversation that touches on Sam’s time at GitHub, where he helped the then 40th most-trafficked website in the world run on just 2 servers, to his experience working at Facebook where he learned that you don’t need to sacrifice quality in order to move fast, this episode has the insights you need to make straightforward, no BS decisions about your tech stack.

Or as Sam says, learn how to avoid “the new hotness” in order to build a culture that reflects the often boring decisions that make or break a company.
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Stripe on Treating Dev Bandwidth as Your Most Valuable Resource w/ Stripe’s Head of Engineering, Smruti Patel Aug 20, 2022

The unofficial first rule of engineering: When the minds behind the world’s most valuable startup, Stripe, want to talk about making better dev orgs, you listen.

In this episode of Dev Interrupted, Stripe’s Head of Engineering Smruti Patel joined us to talk about the daily, weekly and yearly engineering decisions that have engineered the company’s meteoric success.

Smruti has a gift for making the logic behind make-or-break strategic decisions digestible for every engineer, regardless of where they are on the company ladder.

With a breadth of wisdom on what it takes to make tough decisions based on tradeoffs, opportunity cost and developer bandwidth, Smruti Patel’s insights can be applied to any org – even ones worth less than $100 billion!

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Labs: Solving The Pull Request Problem w/ Continuous Merge Aug 13, 2022

Fact: The state of pull requests is broken and we finally have the data to prove it. In our latest LinearB Labs episode we reveal the information that has led us to the inevitable conclusion that pull requests have become a massive source of toil, bottlenecks and a huge barrier to shipping.

Better yet, two people who have been thinking about how to attack this dev workflow issue – Dan Lines and Ori Keren of LinearB – are ready to actually propose a solution: continuous merge.

The next step in CI/CD, continuous merge is the concept of creating lanes where pull requests can be merged based on their risk. Plain and simple, pull requests should not all be treated the same.

The first step in continuous merge proposed in the episode is the dev tool gitStream, which automates and optimizes merging pull requests based on risk and level of attention required.

A game-changing conversation, this episode is the first time you might hear about continuous merge but it certainly won’t be the last.
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Why Devs Break Up with Their Bosses w/ Oliver Wyman's Carolyn Vo Aug 06, 2022

Everyone who manages a team would like to think that their employees admire them as individuals and as leaders. That you make an impact on those employees while they work under you and long after you end up moving to new companies and opportunities.

One such engineering leader who has mastered the mix of manager, friend and mentor is Carolyn Vo. A Partner and Head of Engineering at Oliver Wyman, Carolyn is one of engineering’s leading advocates on the benefits of creating a culture of approachability, tinkering and healthy levity.

In fact, in our conversation, Carolyn makes a strong argument that without honing the art of approachable management, not only does productivity suffer, but engineers are consistently looking for the door.

One of our liveliest pods to date, we hope you can absorb Carolyn’s insights and energy no matter where you are on your leadership journey.
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The Art of Letting Your Devs Step Up w/ Equinix’s Rajah Kalipatnapu Jul 30, 2022

Like every other team-based profession, engineering needs leaders. But identifying a true, tested and proven road for taking a programmer and putting them in a position of managing projects & priorities is still a work in progress.

That’s why I was so excited to speak with Rajah Kalipatnapu, Global Head of Product Engineering at Equinix.
One of the most experienced minds in building world-class engineering orgs, Rajah credits his success with focusing on different ways to incrementally identify leaders and empower them to be the managers their business needs and their colleagues admire.

From his unique perspective on creating CEOs for features to dealing with beloved employees who can’t code up to the teams’ needs, Rajah’s theories on how and when to let your developers step up to the moment need to be heard.

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How a Trained Therapist Diagnoses Healthy Dev Teams w/ Engineer & Entrepreneur, Kelly Vaughn Jul 23, 2022

Not only is Kelly Vaughn one of the pioneers in building thought-leadership content for the developer community, she’s one of the rare programmers who comes to the craft with the background of a trained therapist.
From knowing what content devs need to grow to being able to recognize the cognitive-behavioral impacts of the developer experience, Kelly Vaughn is truly one of our most unique guests to date.
In our conversation, Kelly leveraged her background as a therapist to explore what dev orgs should be doing to recognize developers as unique human beings, with their own feelings, motivations and biases.
A discipline-crossing discussion, this pod is invaluable if you’re thinking about what a healthy dev team should look like as well as how to build one.

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The Dangers of Shipping at All Costs w/ CEO & Cofounder of 33 Teams, Drew McManus Jul 16, 2022

In a field like engineering, to have a truly unique 30,000-feet view of the profession, you need someone with 30 years of experience in adapting, innovating and creating in the space.

That’s why we were so excited to talk to Drew McManus, CEO and Cofounder of 33 Teams.

An engineer who’s helped shape the formative years of Apple, Adobe and so many more companies you have on your phone right now, Drew McManus is now advising rapidly growing dev orgs across the world at 33 Teams.

Drew is an oracle (no pun intended) on how to see dev orgs as living organisms, identifying the structural, psychological and technological maladies keeping teams from becoming who they aspire to be.

In our conversation, we touch upon everything from tech debt, to unlocking creativity to the all-too-common danger of shipping at all costs.

If ever there was a way to download 30 years of engineering leadership in one hour, this is it.

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What a Healthy Relationship with Open Source Looks Like ft. GitLab's John Coghlan Jul 09, 2022

There’s an open secret about open source: Developers use it. Teams use it. Businesses use it. But no one really thinks about how they contribute to it.

That’s why we jumped at the chance to get a state-of-open-source discussion with Gitlab’s John Coghlan, Senior Manager of Developer Advocacy.

Someone who joined the open source community with the goal of making developers’ lives better, John came to the table with a wealth of insights into just how individual engineers leverage open source, how businesses leverage it and, most importantly, how to make our relationship with open source better - not just for you and me, but for the community as a whole.

We hope you find this candid conversation on how to be thinking about using open source in the right ways as empowering and insightful as we did!

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How to Train Devs to Disrupt Industries w/ Lessen's CTO Chris Bee Jul 02, 2022

Not all dev orgs work in all situations. Especially if your dev org is looking to completely reshape and disrupt an entire industry.

That’s why we were so excited to talk to Chris Bee, CTO of Lessen.

Lessen is looking to change the way property owners hire vetted professionals for renovation, maintenance and turn services. That means so much of what their programmers are building hasn’t been built before.

Chris opened up about how the company trains and empowers developers to design and build things customers didn’t know they wanted. He also goes in depth about how to bring those new ideas to market when it can seem like the ground is shifting every minute.

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Lessen's website: https://www.lessen.com/
Chris' website: https://www.chrisbee.com/

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Creating a Better CTO Playbook w/ Dama Financial's CTO Zach Goldberg Jun 25, 2022

Fact: There are guidebooks for everything in programming except for actually leading, managing and inspiring programmers.
That’s why I was so happy to have my friend Zach Goldberg on the podcast.
Someone who has made learning and self-improvement a core pillar of his professional and personal life, Zach Goldberg is someone who I turn to when I need to know who smart CTOs are turning to.
In this great conversation, Zach talks about the most important things he’s learned in separating signal from noise in the realm of engineering leadership. He also provides some amazing guidance on who you should be listening to (when you’re not listening to us). Enjoy.
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The Best Solution to Burnout We’ve Ever Heard | A Conversation With Slack, Netlify & Ambassador Labs Jun 18, 2022

With registration for our free October Interact conference now open, we wanted you to hear one of our favorite sessions from this past April’s Interact.

Featuring the best minds from Slack, Netlify and Ambassador Labs, our session on Inspiring Engineering Leaders & Driving Developer Creativity turned into one of the best conversations we’ve ever heard on topics like dev toil, dev focus and dev burnout.

This is a great preview of the type of content we’re working on for our conference in October, and this panel completely made us rethink how we approach burnout at LinearB.

If you like it as much as we do, be sure to sign up for October’s free, virtual Interact conference at: https://devinterrupted.com/event/interact/
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Labs: What Do Elite Dev Teams Look Like? w/ Ori Keren, Co-Founder & CEO of LinearB Jun 15, 2022

In an industry that has trouble looking beyond the next sprint, it’s good to know there are very smart people researching the conscious and unconscious pain points keeping devs from focusing on what they actually want to do: code.

In our new series LinearB Labs we’ll be looking at the most interesting research on how devs work, communicate and code.

The best way to start should be understanding what is actually a well-performing engineering org versus one that’s struggling. That’s why we’re so excited to have Ori Keren, co-founder of LinearB, as our first guest to discuss the results of the first-ever “Engineering Benchmarks Report.”

The product of comprehensively analyzing the work of almost 2,000 dev teams, “The 2022 Engineering Benchmarks Report” is the first EVER look at what performance metrics make engineering orgs elite, average or underwhelming.

We hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did and that you’re able to find out where your dev team ranks as well as concrete ways to improve.

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Getting the Respect Your Work Deserves: A Live Workshop w/ Engineering Coach Lena Reinhard Jun 11, 2022

The last thing anyone who does great work should be doing is having to take time out from doing great work to promote it to their higher-ups. Unfortunately, until the person you report to achieves omnipotence, you’re going to have to make sure their perception of your work lines up with the quality.

In fact, when we asked our community what issue they would want professional coaching on, it was this: How to improve the impression of your work.

With the help of the great Lena Reinhard, engineering & executive coach, we’re giving a practical solution to this problem.

Designed as a real-time workshop where you should be thinking about the questions and answering them yourself, this was a game-changing conversation for us and hopefully a game-changing way for your work to get the respect it deserves.

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The 2 Things You Ask Your Team When You Pass $1B w/ Hippo’s VP of Engineering Jun 04, 2022

When you think of a billion-dollar tech company, you probably imagine rooms full of monitors with dashboards and non-stop data streams.

Well, after talking to Hippo - a certified unicorn and newly minted giant in the insurance industry - we realized this couldn’t be further from the truth.

Mike Gordon, VP of Engineering at Hippo, sat down with Dev Interrupted to chat about what it’s actually like to run the dev teams powering a company that just passed a $1 billion valuation.

His insights about what actually matters to him were amazing for how simple, focused and – brilliant – they are.

A great conversation on what’s important to a company re-writing the rules of insurance, Mike Gordon is by far one of the most thoughtful-yet-pragmatic minds we’ve had on yet.

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The Quest to Build the Perfect Bot w/ Ubisoft's Joshua Romoff May 28, 2022

Almost every single company we talk to focuses on having their engineering teams solve problems.

This is why we jumped at the opportunity to talk to Joshua Romoff from Ubisoft.

Why? The goal of gaming companies isn’t so much to solve problems, but to enrich their customers’ lives.

That’s a unique, powerful change in how to think about building, developing and shipping features. Something that required Ubisoft to bring in Research Scientists like Joshua to figure out just what it is customers engage with in their games and how to give them more of it using AI.

Whether or not you're a gamer, this is a fascinating conversation on how every engineering team should think about building self-improving features.
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The 3 Conversations That Improve Developers' Lives w/ Reprise's Jennie MacDougall May 21, 2022

If you’re doing your job right, most of your time and your team’s time should be spent actually building things. That means conversations should be reserved to the very important ones.

In our latest Dev Interrupted episode, Reprise’s Director of Engineering Jennie MacDougall looks back on the most useful conversation she has ever had with her devs that are also the ones she encourages them to have with others.

From the most important conversation when evaluating a prospective dev to the question that actually keeps engineers motivated and invested, this was an incredible download of things I started doing right after the recording was finished.

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Why Engineers Make the Best Entrepreneurs w/ Drata's Co-founder & CTO Daniel Marashlian May 14, 2022

There are so many books, videos and workshops on starting your own company. The problem for anyone listening to this podcast is that none of them come from the perspective of a developer.

That’s why we were so excited that the founder & CTO of Drata, Daniel Marashlian – who has previously founded eight companies before hitting a billion-dollar valuation with Drata – was open to talking about what it’s like to build a company from a coder’s perspective.

From the signs you’re an entrepreneur at heart, to filling out your skills gap to leaning in to the edge you have with your background, this episode of Dev Interrupted is essential listening for anyone who can code - or anyone who has dreamed of founding their own company.

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Stupid Things Orgs Do That Kill Productivity | A Conversation With Netflix, FloSports & Refactoring.club May 07, 2022

At LinearB, we like to think we spend all our time figuring out how to unlock developer potential. To find ways to let devs do more of the work they love and reduce the amount of time they spend dealing with needless hurdles, idling and churn.

We’re not the only ones thinking about how to do this, though. At our recent INTERACT panel, we assembled amazing engineering leaders from Netflix, FloSports and the Refactoring.club newsletter to give us their inside knowledge on how they increase productivity and promote creativity in their own organizations.

One of the highlights of our INTERACT conference, this panel conversation is filled with real wisdom and takeaways we hope you can apply to your own teams the moment it’s over.
Enjoy - and don't forget to fill out our very first listener survey!

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Why 1 Good UX Is Worth 5 Engineers w/ Toast's Director of Engineering Brad Pielech Apr 30, 2022

Few companies have mastered making products consumers actually want to use like Toast.

A $30 billion giant in the tech-food business, Toast faced their worst case scenario during the pandemic when the restaurants at the heart of their business were all forced to shut down.

Toast rose like a phoenix to become one of the best success stories of pivoting during the pandemic by making users love using their food delivery systems.

To understand how Toast became one of the great success stories of the last 2 years, we spoke to Brad Pielech, the company’s Director of Engineering.

An amazing conversation that’s informed how we think about product at LinearB, Brad made a flawless case for the importance of UX - and why the alliance between UX and devs at Toast produced a market-beating pivot that took the company from unicorn to brink of collapse and back again.

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Why Great Money Doesn’t Retain Great Devs w/ Stack Overflow, DataStax & Reprise Apr 23, 2022

What do the teams at Stack Overflow, DataStax and Reprise have in common?

First, they’ve all built amazing organizations powered by amazing developers.

Second, they’ve managed to build and retain these amazing developers in an ultra-competitive hiring market.

Third, they all took time at our recent INTERACT conference to discuss how they created engineering organizations that are productive, successful and - best of all - happy.

It’s a rare treat to have this many amazing minds on one live panel and we couldn’t be more excited to share their insights, wisdom and advice to the community at large.

Quick note, if you notice a tiny fluctuation in the audio quality for each speaker, it’s because this was recorded live at INTERACT.

Enjoy!

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The Subversive Structure of the World's Best-Performing Dev Teams w/ A Radical Enterprise Author Matt K. Parker Apr 16, 2022

You ever get the feeling that the way most companies are set up doesn’t really make sense?

That the passion you have for coding and tech gets sucked out when you do it for a business, instead of it being amplified?

Matt K. Parker had that realization… hard.

A third-generation programmer, Matt’s epiphany that there was something wrong with the way the majority of the world sets up its teams and workplaces led him on a journey to explore the way the world’s best companies operate.

After diving into case studies, academic research and leveraging his own professional experience, Matt concluded that the most productive companies all had one thing in common: They were radical.

Radical in how they structure their employees. Radical in how they treat their employees. Radical in how they empower their employees.

Fortunately for us, Matt stopped by Dev Interrupted to share some conclusions from his new book “A Radical Enterprise: Pioneering the Future of High-Performing Organizations.”

One of our favorite recordings to date, this is your ticket if you’re looking for some inspiration on how to increase productivity while decreasing BS.

Matt's book:
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How to Fix Tech's Mentorship Problem w/ Amex's VP of Technology, Sarvenaz Myslicki Apr 09, 2022

If you looked up the term “firing on all cylinders” in the dictionary, I’m fairly confident there would be a picture of Sarvenaz Myslicki next to it.

A next-gen leader who earned the role of VP of Technology at American Express by the age of 30, Savernaz is a published author, an in-demand thought-leader on mentorship and has one of the largest followings on programmer TikTok.

Our favorite thing about Sarvenaz, though, is that all her work is aspirational but radically inclusive. She tailors her message, content and guidance based on wherever someone is in their professional journey – even if they’re just tinkering with code in a junior high classroom.

Sarvenaz joined us and 1700 other engineering leaders for an incredible live conversation at our INTERACT conference about the real trial and errors that have led to her role at Amex, as well as the beliefs, mindset and rituals that have allowed her to become a mentor for developers she’s never met.

We hope you enjoy this discussion as much as we did.

AMEX is hiring: americanexpress.com/techcareers
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What Sarvenaz is reading: Bury My Heart at Conference Room B: The Unbeatable Impact of Truly Committed Managers
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How Promotions Ruin Dev Careers w/ Shopify's Dir. of Engineering James Stanier Apr 02, 2022

In so many professions, the reward for exceptional work is a promotion to management. Unfortunately, for developers whose programming gets them singled out for promotion, the skills to manage a team have nothing to do with the work that got them recognized in the first place.

James Stanier, Director of Engineering at Shopify, understands the pitfalls of being promoted from an IC to an engineering manager, and began writing as a way to think through the mistakes he himself was making.

Today, James is an accomplished author; his first book Become An Effective Software Engineering Manager debuted in 2020, and his second book Effective Remote Work was published earlier this year.

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, James talks about how developers can prepare themselves for a role in management, or alternatively, why they should avoid a career in management altogether. He also discusses why Shopify loves remote pair programming, how to find your voice as a developer and why writing a book can be a spiritual experience.

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What The Next 20 Million Devs Want w/ Tiff in Tech & Stereotype Breakers' Masha Zvereva Mar 26, 2022

The world is shortly going to need another 20 million developers and with over 1,000 engineering leaders joining us for INTERACT on April 7th, there’s no better time to talk to two people who have captured the minds of millions of developers - and will be featured at INTERACT - Tiffany Janzen and Masha Zvereva.

In addition to their own tech careers, both women have become prominent voices in the dev community, Tiffany is most well-known for her Tiff in Tech Youtube channel and Masha for her company Stereotype Breakers.

Tiff and Masha spend their time connecting, communicating and inspiring the next generation of devs. They’re the ideal experts to dive deep on how Gen Z devs think and what they want.

That’s why we were so happy when they agreed to sit down for an episode of Dev Interrupted to give us some incredible insights on what it’s going to take to recruit, hire and retain the millions of new developers who are joining the workforce.

If you want to join Tiffany and Masha at INTERACT on April 7th, it’s easy: Just register at https://devinterrupted.com/event/interact/

See you there!

Tiff in Tech

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TiffInTech/featured
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Masha Zvereva, Stereotype Breakers

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Is Your Dev Team TOO Big to Succeed? w/ SAIC’s Bob Ritchie Mar 19, 2022

Modern problems require modern solutions, right?

The problem is, it’s becoming increasingly difficult to understand what solutions are required for a given problem and even harder to task a team with finding them.

That’s why Bob Ritchie, VP of Software at SAIC, thinks the top-down management model is dead. To replace it, Bob is championing a “team of teams” model that provides his developers with far more autonomy - so much, in fact, that they can even self-elect their leaders.

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, Bob discusses the challenges of software development in an increasingly dynamic environment, why he believes developers should be no further than 4 steps away from their CEO and the historical challenges of connecting results in Silicon Valley to those in the federal government.

Who would've expected a federal government tech integrator (Science Applications International Corporation), to be on the leading edge of developer autonomy?

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What Bob is reading: Drive: The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us
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What Devs Need To Teach CEOs About AI w/ Lexion’s Emad Elwany Mar 12, 2022

For decades Artificial Intelligence has been a focus of best-selling science fiction authors and an antagonist for blockbuster Hollywood movies. But AI is no longer relegated to the realm of science fiction, it inhabits the world around us. From the biggest enterprise companies to plucky startups, businesses everywhere are building and deploying AI at incredible speed.

In fact, open source allows anyone with a laptop to build impressively good AI models in a day.

But for all the recent advances in AI, what are its limitations? And if you are a developer or business leader, what use cases can AI solve for your company?

In this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, Emad Elwany, CTO and Co-founder of Lexion, walks us through the practical realities of AI in today’s world and how its constraints apply to your business. He also discusses the biggest breakthroughs in AI, how to build machine learning models that actually solve a business need and why it’s almost impossible to retrofit AI once it’s already built.

Whether you are a business leader who is considering implementing AI at their company, a consumer curious about how AI impacts your daily life or a researcher wanting to understand how to better deploy AI outside of the lab - this episode has got something for you!

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How to Reclaim Your Dev Team’s Focus w/ Ambassador Labs' Katie Wilde Mar 05, 2022

Hate interruptions? Ever feel like you’ve lost your ability to focus on coding?

Katie Wilde, VP of Engineering at Ambassador Labs, knows your pain and she’s on a crusade to help devs everywhere reclaim their focus.

Spoiler: She's got a message for managers who can’t meet with devs whenever they want: “Don’t like it? Well, suck it up.”

The thing about productivity is, you can’t have it both ways. You can either protect your devs’ ability to focus by providing them meaningful time for creativity or you can call them into meetings all day long for constant feedback - but you can’t have both.

These concepts don’t have to be at odds with each other, though. On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, Katie details exactly what managers can do to foster a harmonious, productive environment between themselves and their devs. She also talks about the importance of “shifting left,” the dangers of doing it too quickly, and why “hiring great people and getting out of their way” may not be a good mantra.

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What If You Don't Want To Be a Developer Anymore? w/ CTO Connection's Peter Bell Feb 26, 2022

It used to be that in order to make your parents proud you had to go into management. Then along came the self-contained IC career path. Today, this dual-track career path remains the unchallenged standard of companies everywhere.

Or does it?

Peter Bell, the founder and CTO of CTO Connection, wants developers everywhere to know that there are several dev adjacent career paths. From product to dev advocate to sales engineer, Peter has the insights you need if you’ve ever considered switching up your career while utilizing your hard-earned skills as a developer.

If you're an engineering leader, then Peter’s advice on the importance of building a community at your company is not to be missed. Through his work with CTO Connection, engineering leaders everywhere have found a community to call home - and a resource to leverage. In fact, CTO Connection bills itself as the “Stack Overflow for managers.”

Peter is a gifted speaker and presenter, you won’t want to miss this episode!

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Why Imperfect Data Isn’t Just Bad, It’s Harmful w/ Treeverse’s Einat Orr Feb 19, 2022

Data junkies rejoice, this is the episode for you.

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, Einat Orr, co-founder and CEO of Treeverse, sits down with us to talk about the state of data… where it’s been, where it’s going and why having bad data might be worse than having no data at all.

Einat's path to becoming a CEO is different from many of the folks who come on the podcast. After graduating with a PhD in mathematics, she spent much of her career as a CTO due to her extraordinary technical expertise. But things changed when Einat and her cofounder asked themselves a simple question: if code has Git, why doesn’t data have a “Git-equivalent”?

Their exploration of this question inspired Treeverse. In a technical deepdive, Einat walks Dev Interrupted’s executive producer Conor Bronsdon through the founding story of Treeverse, why data needs its own version of Git, the specifics of data warehouses & data versioning, and what the future of data storage looks like.

Put on your thinking caps and enjoy!
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How a $725M VC Judges Your Engineering Team w/ Redpoint Ventures' Jason Warner Feb 12, 2022

How does a former-CTO-turned-VC assess companies now that they're the one with the money? What do they look for - and expect to find - in a company’s engineering team?
Enter Jason Warner on the Dev Interrupted stage.
Jason is the most unique of investors: He made the jump from being a CTO to managing his own $725M fund at Redpoint Ventures. After leading GitHub to one of the best exits in the history of Silicon Valley, Jason is now dedicating his full time to picking the tech, teams and products he thinks will define the next decade and beyond.
In this freewheeling conversation, we cover everything from Jason’s start in tech carrying boxes while interning at IBM, his tenure as GitHub’s CTO, the reason full stack engineers may be a dying breed and why Redpoint Ventures avoids “yoloing” investments, even if it’s a lucrative practice.
We hope you enjoy the conversation as much as we did.
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What CTOs Say vs. What Developers Hear w/ DataStax's Shankar Ramaswamy Feb 05, 2022

Anyone who’s been in a rapidly scaling company with an ever-expanding engineering team knows that communication is never as simple as it seems.
That’s why we were so excited when Shankar Ramaswamy decided to sit down with Dev Interrupted's Conor Bronsdon.
Shankar is a veteran leader in the engineering space, having helped recruit, build and guide developer teams at companies like Amazon, eBay, Paypal and Google - where before leaving he managed a team of 300+ people.
Now the Head of Engineering at Datastax, Shankar took the time to talk to us about some of the practical lessons he’s learned managing teams of several hundred people, and why something he calls the “intent perception gap” is so tricky for managers to get right.
We also took the time to talk about Shankar’s views on the future of cloud computing, what healthy conflict looks like at unicorn companies and why you might want to rethink your single-vendor strategy.
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What Hackers Know About Your Software Supply Chain (That You Don’t) w/ Chainguard's Kim Lewandowski Jan 29, 2022

You’ve heard of the supply chain, but what about the software supply chain?
Unlike the standard supply chain that you often hear about in the news, this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted dives into the supply chain responsible for holding together the systems that companies, orgs and governments depend upon.
Kim Lewandowski, a software supply chain security expert, co-founded Chainguard in 2021 with a mission to make the software supply chains secure by default.

In our conversation, Kim discusses why hackers are way ahead of the game on the software supply chain, what companies can do about it and why excitement around open source may not align with the security threats of the future.
She also details why 5 founders may be better than 2, why you might find her Easter eggs in nuclear codes and why Google is an amazing pit-stop in anyone’s career.
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Why an Autistic Developer is Your Next Great Hire w/ Matt Nigh of UW Medicine Jan 22, 2022

Like most fast-growing companies, LinearB spends WAY too much time trying to hire developers.
So when we came across a brilliant article about hiring autistic talent, we knew we had to have its author Matt Nigh on the podcast. Matt is one of the most prominent thought leaders on neurodiversity in the workplace.
Matt himself was diagnosed with autism late in life following a very unique job interview at Google. He’s since spent countless hours researching, writing and talking about how companies can not only bring neurodiverse talent into the fold, but why engineering teams thrive when they do.
In this episode of Dev Interrupted we talk with Matt about best practices in recruiting, hiring and working with neurodiverse coders, how his interview at Google led to an autism diagnosis, the ways Matt’s data team at the University of Washington is helping combat COVID and what private companies can learn from the ROI metrics of universities and public institutions.
Dan and Matt also took some time to geek out about GitLab.

We hope this conversation was as enlightening for you as it was for us and we hope it helps you find your next great hire.

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Matt's article on hiring autistic talent: https://medium.com/leading-literally/now-is-the-time-to-hire-autistic-talent-932d4f291644
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How a hacker, a hustler and a designer made RSS feeds cool Jan 15, 2022

Building a platform that 100,000 devs use every day is no accident, but it can happen (almost) overnight.

Daily.dev is the fastest growing online community for developers to stay updated on the hottest developer news, and their mission is to build the home page that every developer deserves. It pulls together and rewards dev-focused content from 400 sources – letting its users vote on which ones they find the most useful, the most interesting or the most entertaining.

Co-founders Nimrod Kramer and Ido Shamun sit down with me to discuss their mission, the trick to building something that grows itself and why they chose to create a platform that actually makes RSS feeds cool!
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From Devs, to VPs, to Co-Founders: 10Xing a Startup 5,000 Miles Apart Jan 08, 2022

We knew we had to kick off the new year with something big - so welcome to Season 2 of Dev Interrupted!

This episode probes the murky depths of a time before the pandemic by exploring the story of LinearB's founding in 2018, how co-founders Dan Lines and Ori Keren met at Cloudlock in 2012 - and how they decided to co-found a company while 5,000 miles apart.

Listen as Dev Interrupted host and all-around renaissance man, Dan Lines, steps behind the mic to be interviewed not as host of the podcast, but as COO and co-founder of LinearB. Joining Dan is his good friend and fellow co-founder, Ori Keren, LinearB’s CEO.

With Producer Conor Bronsdon stepping in to guest host, Dan and Ori detail their transition from developers and VPs at Cloudlock, to deciding to found a company while on separate continents.
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Holidays, Entrepreneurship and SLOs with Nobl9 Dec 29, 2021

It's finally here, the end of season 1 of the podcast is upon us! To celebrate, Santa is bringing something special - entrepreneurship advice for all the would-be founders of the world, ages 1 to 92.

Brian Singer, co-founder & CPO of Nobl9, sits down with Dev Interrupted to help us close out season 1 with a conversation on what it takes to found your own company. Having founded a pair of companies, one of which he sold to Google, Brian has a deep understanding of what it takes to successfully found and scale a startup. More than that, he knows what VCs are looking for.

In addition to our conversation on entrepreneurship, we also discuss Service Level Objectives, the ins and outs of Nobl9’s SLO platform, and why SLOs and error budgets will become commonplace approaches in the industry, much in the same way we practice Agile today.

From the entire team at Dev Interrupted, we want to give a heartfelt thank you to everyone who has supported us and continued on this journey with us. Producing this podcast every week has been an absolute pleasure and we are so thankful for the outpouring of support we have received this past year. Expect big things - and even bigger stories - in season 2 of the podcast!

Have a wonderful New Year, we’ll return on January 8th with a HUGE episode for the official start of season 2.

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Combining Machine Learning and Human Intelligence at Unbabel Dec 18, 2021

Companies that do business in the native language of their customer build better customer relationships. Although this may seem fairly obvious, it's easier said than done.
After all, when your customer base is spread around the world, how do you scale your customer service?
Unbabel has built their business around the idea that customer service can be delivered in any language quickly and efficiently with the right blend of AI and human intelligence, creating a platform they call "Language Operations" or LangOps.
Jonathan Sowler, VP of Engineering at Unbabel, joins Dev Interrupted to talk about machine learning, what it takes to build a product that seamlessly integrates AI and human-powered translations, and why the future of language involves emojis.
Dan and Jonathan also rundown LinearB metrics and why Jonathan believes implementing LinearB has improved the health of Unbabel's engineering team.
**With the holidays fast-approaching, the team here at LinearB will be going on a short break to unwind and spend time with our families. Coinciding with our short break, will be the end of season 1 of the podcast and the beginning of season 2.

You’ll hear from us one more time before the year is over - on Wednesday, December 29th. That episode will mark the end of season 1 of the podcast.

Then we will return to our normal schedule on January, 8th 2022, with the start of season 2. We have some incredible guests lined up for season 2, so stay tuned!

From our family here at LinearB to yours, happy holidays!**

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Under the Lid: How AtomicJar is Reshaping Testcontainers Dec 11, 2021

Let’s get nerdy with it.

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, Dan gets technical with Sergei Egorov, co-founder and CEO of AtomicJar.

With the mission to make integrated testing simpler and easier, AtomicJar created the Testcontainers Cloud which allows developers to test their code against real dependencies, not mocks. Today, Testcontainers powers over a million builds per month, helping developers build and release their software with confidence.

Dan and Sergei also talk about the difficulty of finding time to code once you become a CEO, the challenges of building a product for developers, and the culture differences between Russian devs and U.S. devs.

If you’re a developer or enjoy learning about dev tools, this is the episode for you!

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Automating AppSec with Contrast Security Dec 04, 2021

Everything we do is online. We bank online, access healthcare, pay our taxes, build our businesses - and along the way we put trust in companies to keep us protected.

Unfortunately, companies aren’t great at writing secure software. Contrast Security wants to change that.

Jeff Williams, Co-founder & CTO of Contrast Security, and Steve Wilson, CPO, join the Dev Interrupted podcast to discuss the future of application security (AppSec), the importance of security automation and why the traditional way of doing security - where you scan app after app a few times a year - is over.

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Rethinking Teamwork with Range Nov 27, 2021

"Where is the future of work" is almost as important a question as, "What is the future of work?"
That's why the minds behind Range are on a mission to keep teams connected, focused and productive no matter where they're working.
Dan Pupius, CEO and co-founder of Range, joins us this week to discuss the need for better, more collaborative tools as work becomes increasingly team and project based. Dan believes software development was the vanguard to the 21st century work model: when a distinction between 'normal' work and hybrid work will no longer exist because all work will be hybrid work.
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Building a Unicorn Engineering Org at GRIN Nov 20, 2021

How do you build an engineering organization that can drive your company to a billion-dollar valuation and unicorn status?
And how do you do it in an emerging and highly-competitive product category like influencer/creator management? Just ask Brent Bartlett, VP of Engineering at GRIN who joins us this week to share his blueprint for success and his path to leadership.
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Beyond Compliance: Fable’s Mission to Improve Digital Accessibility Nov 13, 2021

It's time we recognize that the way we build digital products is broken. That's because the products we use today represent the people who build them more than the people who use them.
There is a digital divide between the experiences of people with disabilities and people who are able-bodied. Bridging this divide is about more than compliance or checking a box.
Fable is helping companies practice accessibility at scale with the goal of operationalizing accessibility in the same way we already do for things like DesignOps and DevOps.
Listen as Fable's CEO and Co-founder, Alwar Pillai, and Fable's Engineering Manager, Perry Trinier, talk about the importance of inclusive design, the need for digital accessibility and how to integrate accessibility into the development process.

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Management and the Future of AI with Azure's CTO Nov 06, 2021

Has your entire career ever hinged on a single moment? For Darren Dillon, free beer in college set him on the path to a computer science degree and eventually a wildly successful career at Microsoft.

Today, as the CTO of Azure and AI at Microsoft, Darren leads an impressive team of over 130 engineers and is at the forefront of cloud computing and AI technology.
Listen to Darren as he discusses his management philosophy, why he believes status reports are overrated, how to best think about building products for your end user and the implications of the GDPR on the future of AI.

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How to handle hypergrowth like Grammarly Oct 30, 2021

Grammarly has a simple but ambitious goal: turn all of its users into great writers. How good is it? We even used it to edit this text - and since Heidi Williams Joined Grammarly a year ago, the company has doubled in size. As Head of Engineering for B2B & Platform, she's at the forefront of crucial new initiatives - all while navigating hypergrowth and keeping users in mind.
Heidi joins us to share the lessons she's learned from hypergrowth, her experience as a CTO and Co-Founder, her time as VP of Engineering at Box, and other leadership lessons. She also breaks down what's next for Grammarly and gives us an inside look at the unique culture that powers Grammarly. Plus, don't miss her deep dive with LinearB COO Dan Lines into metrics, team dynamics, and much more.
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Live From INTERACT: Engineering Leadership Screwups Oct 23, 2021

When we asked some of our favorite engineering leaders if they had any mistakes they would be willing to share with our audience the response was always the same: "Yes, but where do I begin? There's so many."
The great thing about opening up about past mistakes is that it normalizes failure. All of us will make decisions that we come to regret - the best we can do is learn and grow from them. This is especially true of people in leadership positions who are responsible for managing teams.
In what will be the last podcast episode to feature excerpts from our INTERACT engineering leadership conference, Conor Bronsdon, Dev Interrupted Community Leader, presents a three-part interview he performed for audiences at INTERACT.
We applaud Luca Rossi, Head of Engineering at Translated; Shweta Saraf, Senior Director of Engineering at Equinix; and Chris Downard, VP of Engineering at GigSmart, for their candid, open responses about professional moments of failure.
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Unearthing Observability with New Relic Oct 16, 2021

Is observability mission critical at this point? The folks at New Relic think so. And they’re not alone, according to their recent whitepaper on observability 90% of respondents believe observability is strategically important to their business.

New Relic’s GVP & GM Buddy Brewer and SVP Greg Perotto join the podcast to discuss observability best practices, how to avoid data silos, the value of telemetry across the entire software life cycle and the five key insights of New Relic’s observability report.

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Live From INTERACT: Microsoft's Developer Velocity Research Oct 10, 2021

This week we have another episode from the 2021 engineering leadership conference INTERACT. In this live conversation, Conor Bronsdon, Community Lead at LinearB and the executive producer of the Dev Interrupted podcast, interviews Henrik Gütle, GM of Azure for Microsoft Canada.
Henrik joins the podcast to break down the results and key takeaways of Microsoft’s research into the impact of remote work on developer velocity - and what engineering leaders can learn from it.
The exhaustive study taken over the course of more than a year, both before the pandemic and while it was ongoing, surveyed hundreds of companies regarding a host of topics including: agile practices, cloud adoption, toolsets and talent acquisition. The results of this survey are far-reaching and serve to provide companies with an understanding of transformative business practices.
Microsoft's Developer Velocity Report: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/resources/developer-velocity-lessons-from-digital-leaders/
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How to Scale Engineering Processes w/ Twitter's VP of Engineering Oct 02, 2021

Maria Gutierrez is the VP of Engineering for Strategy and Operations at Twitter. She joins a special livestream of the Dev Interrupted podcast to share her career journey, her strategies for sustainably scaling engineering teams, and the three pillars of engineering processes. Maria has also been working and managing engineering teams remotely for over a decade and offers a great deal of practical advice for team leads everywhere.

In a first for the Dev Interrupted podcast, this episode was recorded live during our virtual engineering leadership conference INTERACT. Maria was a fantastic guest, sticking around after her interview with Dan to take questions from the audience. Her lessons on team management, building company culture, hiring, and mentorship are not to be missed.

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OutSystems: the journey to a $9.5B valuation Sep 25, 2021

Paulo Rosado, CEO and founder of OutSystems, is on a mission to cancel technical debt for businesses everywhere - and he might have a point. Technical debt is estimated to cost businesses $5 trillion in the next 10 years. Learn about Paulo’s 20 year journey founding OutSystems, his fight against technical debt and much more on this episode of Dev Interrupted.
OutSystems Tech Debt Report: https://www.outsystems.com/stop-tech-debt/
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Creating a 10 million visits a month community at DZone Sep 19, 2021

DZone is a thriving online community with more than 10 million visits a month doing incredible research reports into the state of software engineering. They're also a partner for Dev Interrupted's INTERACT conference on September 30th.
DZone's Director of Product Kellet Atkinson joins Dan Lines to talk about developer workflow optimization, continuous integration/continuous delivery, low code trends, DZone's community, INTERACT, and much more.
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Building a culture of trust - with Metrics - at Slack Sep 11, 2021

Rukmini Reddy started out doing needlepoint - and today she's VP of Platform Engineering at Slack. At Slack, she lives and breathes metrics. But she knows that without people and the context they bring, metrics alone won't solve engineering leadership challenges. To successfully use metrics to improve your teams and engineering processes - you need a culture of trust, and much more. Rukmini joined LinearB COO Dan Lines to talk about their shared vision for metrics success - and how she's building on Slack's successful engineering culture - plus the story of what brought her to where she is today.
You don't want to miss this episode.
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Co-Founding Kubernetes with Microsoft CVP Brendan Burns Sep 01, 2021

Brendan Burns co-founded Kubernetes and today leads a 650 person engineering organization at Microsoft today. This week on the Dev Interrupted Podcast he joins Dan Lines to take us through the founding story of Kubernetes and what he learned from that experience about open source projects, community building, leadership, and more. Plus he delves into what Microsoft is doing for devs - and what he and his teams are working on.
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Leading 650 engineers with Microsoft’s Brendan Burns Aug 26, 2021

Brendan Burns not only co-founded Kubernetes, but he also leads a 650 person engineering organization at Microsoft today. This week on the Dev Interrupted Podcast he joins Dan Lines to tell the story of how he got into engineering and share his strategies and advice for how he leads his engineering teams - next week, he'll be back to take us through the founding story of Kubernetes and what he learned from that experience.
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Team Topologies 2: Organizing Business and Technology Teams w/ Manuel Pais & Matthew Skelton Aug 21, 2021

Dan is joined on the Dev Interrupted podcast by Manuel Pais and Matthew Skelton the writers of the book Team Toplogies: Organizing Business and Technology Teams for Fast Flow for an in-depth discussion of how software teams are organized and how to optimize and streamline them for best effect.
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Team Topologies 1: Organizing Business and Technology Teams w/ Manuel Pais & Matthew Skelton Aug 14, 2021

Dan is joined on the Dev Interrupted podcast by Manuel Pais and Matthew Skelton the writers of the book Team Toplogies: Organizing Business and Technology Teams for Fast Flow for an in-depth discussion of how software teams are organized and how to optimize and streamline them for best effect.
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Move Fast, Break Things & Win: How Facebook Builds Software w/ Jeff Meyerson Aug 08, 2021

Facebook is one of the most successful companies in the world, and Jeff Meyerson, the Founder of Software Daily, spend two and a half years talking to Facebook's top engineers to discover how they fit product, culture, and strategy together to succeed. Jeff joined Dev Interrupted to give us the founding story of Software Daily, the secrets to success at Facebook he learned while writing his new book Move Fast: How Facebook Builds Software., the inside scoop on his new company SuperCompute, and his secrets to leveraging his pokers skills in business and in software engineering.
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The Tech Executive Operating System - Part II Jul 28, 2021

Tech Executive Consultant Aviv Ben-Yosef rejoins Dev Interrupted to finish sharing his advice for technical leaders and how to make use of the "tech executive operating system" and its techniques to improve your leadership and your organization. Get a sample chapter of Aviv's book here.
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The Tech Executive Operating System - Part I Jul 24, 2021

Tech Executive Consultant Aviv Ben-Yosef joins Dev Interrupted to explain his strategies for your first 100 days at an organization and how to make use of the "tech executive operating system" and its techniques to improve your leadership and your organization. Get a sample chapter of Aviv's book here.
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Improve Your Engineering Pipeline with Value Streams Jul 15, 2021

Helen Beal, Chair of the new Value Stream Consortium joins Dev Interrupted to break down the key takeaways from her new research showing that high-performing teams need Value Stream Management. Read Helen's VSM Research
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Developer First Culture & Collectives at Stack Overflow Jul 10, 2021

Stack Overflow is all about developers - and they've launched a new solution, Collectives to further their mission of serving developers. Come hear from Stack Overflow's Director of Engineering Ben Matthews about Stack Overflow's culture, teams, operations, and their new Collectives product.
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Lessons Learned from Programming at Google - Part II Jul 02, 2021

Google is a titan of technology with one of the largest codebases in the world - and there are many lessons to be learned from how Google has scaled and its success. Senior Google Staff Engineers Hyrum Wright and Titus Winters joined Dan on the pod to share their lessons learned from programming at Google and talk about their new book.
In fact, the discussion was so good, we split it into our first two-part episode! Here's part II

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Lessons Learned from Programming at Google - Part I Jun 26, 2021

Google is a titan of technology with one of the largest codebases in the world - and there are many lessons to be learned from how Google has scaled and its success. Senior Google Staff Engineers Hyrum Wright and Titus Winters joined Dan on the pod to share their lessons learned from programming at Google and talk about their new book.
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Understanding Open Telemetry and Observability w/ Splunk's Spiros Xanthos Jun 18, 2021

Observability is crucial to understanding and adapting your product and your data - and open source telemetry is increasingly important. To go behind the data and understand where telemetry is going, Spiros Xanthos joined Dan on the pod today to talk about how data analysis and tracking are changing, and what is next for Splunk. Spiros is the Founder of Omnition and the current VP of Product Management, Observability, and IT at Splunk.

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Ensuring Quality Code that Fits Your Business w/ Erika Chestnut of Calendly Jun 10, 2021

Modern businesses run on code - and ensuring code quality is crucial to success. To get the inside scoop on Quality Assurance (QA), Dan Lines talks with Erika Chestnut, Head of QA at Calendly at what you need to do to set up QA that works for your business needs, how to socialize the right values for your team, what not to do, and how to adapt these processes when necessary.

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Focus, Culture, and Metrics in a Remote-First World w/ Chris Brookins of Appcues Jun 02, 2021

How can you build and scale an effective remote organization? In our digital world, figuring out the answer to this question is crucial, and Chris Brookins the VP of Engineering at Appcues, has some great ideas about how to improve team focus time and maintain company culture in remote-first work environments. Hear from Chris how he and his team are using LinearB's metrics to inform their decision-making and create a culture of continuous improvement on this new episode of Dev Interrupted.

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Building High Performance Remote Dev Teams w/ Eric Johnson of GitLab May 17, 2021

What happens if we stay remote? This is the big question engineering leaders are answering in 2021. That’s why I’ve brought in Eric Johnson, the CTO of GitLab, to help us learn how the experts create high performance remote engineering teams.

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The Organization Behind Chaos Engineering with Matt Fornaciari of Gremlin May 11, 2021

In this episode of Dev Interrupted we get into exactly what Chaos Engineering is, how it came to be and how you can implement it at your organization. Join the Dev Interrupted Continuous Improvement watch party on May 20th with leaders from GitHub, Netflix and Honeycomb: https://linearb.io/continuous-improvement-leaders/
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Using Open Source Tools at Your Company w/ Doron Gill of Logz.io May 05, 2021

The open source community is the most pure expression of collaboration and engineering that exists today. That’s why we’ve brought in Doron Gill, the VP of Engineering at Logz.io, to answer our questions about open source security, implementation, and which companies an open source tool stack is perfect for. Join the Dev Interrupted watch party on May 20th: https://linearb.io/continuous-improvement-leaders/
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Engineering Productivity & Culture at Netflix w/ Kathryn Koehler Apr 27, 2021

What is it like to work at Netflix as a developer? How do they think about culture, their customers and engineering productivity? In this incredible episode of Dev Interrupted, I bring in Kathryn Koehler, the Director of Productivity Engineering at Netflix, to chat about what makes Netflix so unique and why they are standardizing data-driven engineering today.
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The 7 Categories of Engineering Management w/ Ian Nowland of Datadog Apr 20, 2021

Ian Nowland, the SVP of Core Engineering at DataDog. Ian joins us to share his experience coaching engineering managers and how the reality is different from the books. We get into Ian’s seven categories of engineering management, how to take your ego out of your mistakes, and how to measure the impact of your team.
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Lessons When Scaling From 0 - 130 Devs w/ Kirby Frugia of MURAL Apr 14, 2021

MURAL has gone through enormous growth in the past two years and Kirby Frugia, VP of Eng, came on to discuss the ins and outs of rapidly scaling engineering organizations.
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Defining The Role Of Staff Engineer w/ Will Larson of Calm Apr 06, 2021

We’re tackling one of the most ambiguous and subjective roles in the software engineering career path, the Staff Engineer. Many companies don’t even have this role, and the ones that do have a hard time defining exactly what it means. Will Larson, the CTO of Calm, and author of the new book, Staff Engineer: Leadership Beyond the Management Track, joins us to share his research on what a staff engineer actually is.
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Running Experiments To Create Change w/ Dominica DeGrandis of TaskTop Mar 31, 2021

Change is difficult. And it’s even more difficult, if you’re the one trying to make change happen. That’s where Dominica DeGrandis comes in. As the author of Making Work Visible, Dominica has been helping teams make big changes for decades. And now she is joining us to explain the steps we can take to start making a change inside of our organizations, today.
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Stop Telling Devs What To Do w/ Dana Lawson of GitHub Mar 23, 2021

As the VP of Engineering at GitHub, Dana Lawson’s team makes decisions that change the development workflows for millions of people at a time. On this episode of Dev Interrupted we chat about the role of technical leadership, how to implement continuous improvement, and how positivity relates to dev team culture.
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No Continuous Delivery? Then Walk Out. w/ Charity Majors of Honeycomb Mar 17, 2021

In this incredible episode, I bring in Charity Majors, CTO of Honeycomb.io, to explain how to implement continuous delivery, and why you should walk out if your organization doesn’t support the practice.
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Diving Into DevSecOps with John Willis pt.2 Mar 09, 2021

In the second and final part of our DevSecOps series with John Willis we take a deep dive into the types of information engineering leaders should be providing their developers, how we can shift security left to save time and resources, and the steps scaling companies can start making today to apply modern DevSecOps methodologies.
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Diving Into DevSecOps with John Willis of Red Hat Mar 03, 2021

DevSecOps is one of those buzzwords that can mean a lot of things or nothing at all. But where DevOps helped us gain a more holistic understanding of our delivery pipeline, DevSecOps does the same for our security efforts. Over the next two episodes of Dev Interrupted I explore what DevSecOps actually means to dev teams with John Willis.
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Winning Wars (Literally) with Agile & DevOps w/ Adam Furtado of Kessel Run Feb 23, 2021

The wars of the future will be fought with software and system architecture, as much as any other weapon. That’s why the US armed forces needed to start applying modern software methodologies at scale. The beginning of this incredible digital transformation began in 2017 when the US Air Force started a project called Kessel Run. Leading the project then, and now Chief of Platform of over 200 Kessel Run developers is my guest, Adam Furtado.
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Making Project Management Not Suck w/ Zach Ozer of Clubhouse Feb 15, 2021

It’s time for project management not to suck anymore. That's why I've brought in Zach Ozer, the VP of Engineering at Clubhouse.io to talk about how the new partnership between LinearB’s and Clubhouse is helping dev teams eliminate the need for status update meetings, and automate the manual tasks so many project management tools require from developers.
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Finding Time For Security When Scaling w/ Liran Tal of Snyk Feb 09, 2021

We have to start giving our developers the ability to find and fix security vulnerabilities before their code is merged. I brought in Liran Tal, a security expert from Snyk.io to talk about how our community can begin evolving traditional security workflows into a more modern way of working.
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Eliminating Software Development Process w/ Adam Carmi of Applitools Feb 02, 2021

What would happen if you eliminated all of the processes that surround your software development teams today? Adam Carmi, CTO of Applitools, joins me to discuss how his methodology works, and why you need to start eliminating processes too.
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Improving Visibility Without Being Annoying w/ Anders Wallgren of Cloudbees Jan 26, 2021

It’s safe to say that everyone wants more visibility into their software delivery process. That’s why I’ve brought in Anders Wallgren, the VP of Technology Strategy at Cloudbees, to discuss how we can start connecting the small islands of visibility our current systems give us.
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Technical Leadership: Beyond Problem Solving w/ Pat Kua Jan 21, 2021

The skills you use as a software engineer, and the skills you need as a technical team leader are not the same. This week I brought in former CTO turned engineering leadership coach Pat Kua to discuss what you need to think about when making the jump to leadership.
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Engineering Customer Success with Sunil Mavadia of Cloudbees Jan 13, 2021

Customer success can make or break any business, especially when you’re scaling. That's why I've brought in Sunil Mavadia to explain how to scale a customer success initiative and what dev teams can do to help.
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Outcome-based Development with Bryan Finster Jan 05, 2021

Continuous Delivery isn’t about how fast you can deliver, it’s about the outcome your delivery achieves. On our first episode of the new year I talk with Bryan Finster, author of 5-minute DevOps, about outcome-based development and why failing small is better than failing fast.
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Automation Limitations with Judy Johnson Dec 23, 2020

Automation is key when it comes to scaling your engineering efforts, but can you automate yourself out of a job? On this week’s episode I brought in Judy Johnson to answer my questions about what shouldn’t be automated and how to convince your business to take on the upfront cost of an automation initiative.
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Evolving from Dev to CEO with Stephen Magill of Muse.dev Dec 15, 2020

The most prolific companies of our time are run by former developers. That's why I brought in former developer turned CEO, Stephen Magill, to chat about what it takes to make the jump from developer to business leader.
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Uncover the Real Senior Developer with Tomasz Waraksa Dec 08, 2020

Should you be hiring a software developer or a senior software developer...and what's the difference? And how do you know during an interview? To answer these questions and more, I brought in Tomasz Waraksa, a tenured Senior Software Developer with decades of hiring experience to help us figure out exactly what makes a software developer senior, and how to hire one with confidence.
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Uptime Is For Amateurs with SRE Expert Brian Murphy Dec 01, 2020

You've probably heard of Site Reliability Engineering, but what does it really mean? Brian Murphy knows. As the SRE Manager at G-Research, Brian has spent his career building and managing successful SRE teams. He joins me on this episode of Dev Interrupted to explain how SRE teams operate, what success looks like, and why uptime isn't the most important metric.
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How to game dev metrics with Ray Elenteny of Solutech Nov 24, 2020

Gaming dev metrics is easy. In this episode I'm joined by software architecture expert and agile enthusiast, Ray Elenteny, to discuss how people game dev metrics and the underlying issues with culture and leadership that lead to it.
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Asynchronous Communication with Cate Huston of DuckDuckGo Nov 17, 2020

After years of experience managing dev teams asynchronously, Cate Huston, Engineering Director at DuckDuckGo, joins me to discuss why communicating asynchronously makes more sense for distributed dev teams.
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What should dev teams measure first? With Luca Rossi of Translated Nov 11, 2020

Why do we measure dev team metrics and what should you start measuring first? Luca Rossi, Head of Engineering at Translated, helps me answer these questions and more in this dev team metrics focused episode.

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Does dev methodology matter? w/ Chris Downard of GigSmart Nov 02, 2020

In this episode I learn how to create my own Development Methodology from the VP of Engineering at GigSmart. Chris Downard and I discuss how he doesn't let Agile define what's right for his time and how the development process has changed due to the hybrid remote reality.
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Asynchronous Development for Hybrid Remote Teams w/ Ori Keren of LinearB Oct 22, 2020

LinearB CEO Ori Keren joins me on our first episode of Dev Interrupted to talk about Asynchronous Development, a new software development methodology build for remote teams.
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