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    Defense in Depth

    Defense in Depth, hosted by David Spark, Steve Zalewski, Geoff Belknap, and Edward Contreras, promises clear talk on cybersecurity’s most controversial and confusing debates. Once a week we choose one controversial and popular cybersecurity debate and use the InfoSec community’s insights to lead our discussion.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Why Is There a Cybersecurity Skills Gap? Feb 02, 2023
    Show notes

    All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series.

    Why is there a cybersecurity skills gap? Practically everyone is looking to hire, and there are ton of people getting training and trying to get into the industry, but we still have this problem. Why?

    Check out this post for the discussions that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap (@geoffbelknap), CISO, LinkedIn. We welcome Edwin Covert (@ebcovert3), head of cyber risk engineering, Bowhead Specialty.

    Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Orca Security

    In this episode:

    • Why is there a cybersecurity skills gap?
    • Practically everyone is looking to hire, and there are tons of people getting training and trying to get into the industry, but we still have this problem. Why?
    • Is there a problem with the system of hiring junior people, training, and preventing burnout?
    • Is the problem gatekeepers who don't do anything to mentor or groom the next wave?

    What Can the Cyber Haves Do for the Cyber Have Nots? Jan 26, 2023
    Show notes

    All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series.

    Given that your company's security is dependent on the security of your partners and others, what can we do to get more organizations above the security poverty line?

    Check out this post for the discussions that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap (@geoffbelknap), CISO, LinkedIn. We welcome our sponsored guest, Jason Kikta (@kikta), CISO, Automox.

    Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Automox

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    In this episode:

    • Given that your company's security is dependent on the security of your partners and others, what can we do to get more organizations above the security poverty line?
    • How can we give them guidance towards working on priorities in cybersecurity?
    • How are the Vendors handling this?
    • Can we create an "Adopt a Highway" program for cybersecurity?

    Securing Unmanaged Assets Jan 19, 2023
    Show notes

    All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series.

    "When the asset discovery market launched, every single company that offered a solution used the line, "You can't protect what you don't know." Everyone agreed with that.

    Problem is, "what you don't know" has grown… a lot."

    Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Steve Zalewski. Our sponsored guest is Huxley Barbee (@huxley_barbee), security evangelist, runZero.

    Thanks to our podcast sponsor, runZero

    runZero is the cyber asset management solution that helps you find and identify every managed and unmanaged asset connected to your network and in the cloud. Get the data and context needed to effectively manage and secure your environment. Try runZero for free at runzero.com.

    In this episode:

    • Everyone agrees that, "You can't protect what you don't know", but what do you do when, "what you don't know" has grown…a lot?
    • With all our efforts to know our assets, are we doing any better understanding?
    • How do we decide what we should really be measuring?
    • How do we determine what's most important in terms of asset management?

    Ambulance Chasing Security Vendors Jan 12, 2023
    Show notes

    All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series

    A good high profile security threat seems like a good time to alert potential customers about how your product could help or even prevent a breach. Seems like a solid sales tactic for any industry that is not cybersecurity.

    Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap (@geoffbelknap), CISO, LinkedIn. We welcome our guest Angela Williams, CISO, UL.

    Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Automox

    Are you ready to ditch manual patching? With Automox, you can automatically patch your third-party applications, Windows, macOs, and Linux devices with one easy-to-use, cloud-native platform. Try for yourself with our free 15-day trial and have all your endpoints safe and secure in just 15 minutes.

    In this episode:

    • Is tying your product to a high profile event a good sales tactic for vendors?
    • How can vendors best help cybersecurity professionals during emergency situations?
    • Is there a correct way for vendors to capitalize on a high profile event?

    Do CISOs Have More Stress than Other C-Suite Jobs Jan 05, 2023
    Show notes

    All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series

    Why do CISOs seem more stressed out than other C-level executives?

    Check out this post for the discussions that are the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap (@geoffbelknap), CISO, LinkedIn. We welcome our guest Jared Mendenhall, Head of information security, Impossible Foods.

    Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Compyl

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    In this episode:

    • Do CISOs undergo more stress than other C-Suite jobs?
    • Why do CISOs seem more stressed out than other C-level executives?
    • Is it because the role is not fully formed and that CISOs don't get enough resources?
    • Do the blurred lines of the CISO job increase the stress? Even more so that the CEO?

    How Should We Discuss Cyber With the C-Suite? Dec 15, 2022
    Show notes

    All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series

    How detailed do we get in our conversation with business leaders? Do we dumb it down? Or is that a recipe for trouble?

    Check out this post for the discussions that are the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap (@geoffbelknap), CISO, LinkedIn. We welcome our guest Lee Parrish (@leeparrish), CISO, Newell Brands.

    Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Qualys

    Qualys is a pioneer and leading provider of cloud-based security and compliance solutions.

    In this episode:

    • How detailed do we get in our conversation with business leaders?
    • Do we dumb it down? Or is that a recipe for trouble?
    • To what level does the C-Suite need to be cyber savvy?
    • How essential is it for senior leaders to know more?

    Can You Be a vCISO If You've Never Been a CISO? Dec 08, 2022
    Show notes

    All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series

    Why are there so many vCISOs who have never been a CISO? Isn't it difficult to advise on a role you've never done? Do organizations feel comfortable hiring an inexperienced vCISO as their CISO?

    Check out this post for the discussions that are the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap (@geoffbelknap), CISO, LinkedIn. We welcome our guest Steve Tran, CSO, DNC.

    Thanks to our podcast sponsor, runZero

    runZero is the cyber asset management solution that helps you find and identify every managed and unmanaged asset connected to your network and in the cloud. Get the data and context needed to effectively manage and secure your environment. Try runZero for free at runzero.com.

    In this episode:

    • Why are there so many vCISOs who have never been a CISO?
    • Isn't it difficult to advise on a role you've never done?
    • Do organizations feel comfortable hiring an inexperienced vCISO as their CISO?
    • If the person has the requisite background, why does it matter what the title they had before is?

    How Should We Gauge a Company's Cyber Health? Dec 01, 2022
    Show notes

    All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series

    As an outside observer, how can you tell if a company is staying cyber healthy? While there is no financial statement equivalency to let you know the strength of a company's security profile, there are signals that'll give you a pretty good idea.

    Check out this post for the discussions that are the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap (@geoffbelknap), CISO, LinkedIn. We welcome our guest Matt Honea, CISO, SmartNews.

    Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Automox

    Are you ready to ditch manual patching? With Automox, you can automatically patch your third-party applications, Windows, macOs, and Linux devices with one easy-to-use, cloud-native platform. Try for yourself with our free 15-day trial and have all your endpoints safe and secure in just 15 minutes.

    In this episode:

    • As an outside observer, how can you tell if a company is staying cyber healthy?
    • What are the signals to let you know the strength of a company's security profile?
    • How do we go about trying to determine a company's cyber health?
    • Why is it important to know about another company's cyber health?

    Reducing the Attack Surface Nov 17, 2022
    Show notes

    All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series

    The cyber attack surface just keeps growing to the point that it seems endless. Protecting it all is impossible. Is there anything that can be done to reduce that attack surface and limit your exposure?

    Check out this post for the discussion that are the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Steve Zalewski. Our sponsored guest is Jonathan Trull (@jonathantrull), CISO, Qualys.

    Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Qualys

    Qualys is a pioneer and leading provider of cloud-based security and compliance solutions.

    In this episode:

    • Is there anything that can be done to reduce that attack surface and limit your exposure?
    • Is attack surface reduction a new security development philosophy or is it just a rebranding of vulnerability management?
    • And what value does it have in comparison to other popular theories such as zero trust and defense in depth?
    • Is everything just another form of exposure management?

    Do We Need a Marketing Manager for the Security Team? Nov 10, 2022
    Show notes

    All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series

    Those reports on security procedures for the business are falling short. No one is reading them. What good are security controls if your staff doesn't know about them or adhere to them? Is it time to hire a marketing manager for the security team?

    Check out this post for the discussion that are the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Steve Zalewski. Our guest is Laura Deaner (@b3dwin), CISO, Northwestern Mutual.

    Thanks to our podcast sponsor, IANS Research

    CISOs, how does your compensation compare with your peers? Download IANS + Artico Search's 2022 CISO Compensation Benchmark Report. Find objective insights and comprehensive compensation data from over 500 CISOs across the U.S. and Canada.

    In this episode:

    • What good are security controls if your staff doesn't know about them or adhere to them?
    • Is it time to hire a marketing manager for the security team?
    • Why does it make sense to think of who the stakeholder is and what's happening in their world?
    • How to best build policies that don't get ignored?

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