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    Defense in Depth

    Defense in Depth, hosted by David Spark, Steve Zalewski, Geoff Belknap, and Edward Contreras, promises clear talk on cybersecurity’s most controversial and confusing debates. Once a week we choose one controversial and popular cybersecurity debate and use the InfoSec community’s insights to lead our discussion.

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    Why Do Cybersecurity Startups Fail? Feb 08, 2024
    Show notes

    All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series.

    Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap (@geoffbelknap), CISO, LinkedIn. Joining me is our guest, Mike Levin, deputy CISO, 3M.

    In this episode:

    • Why do security startups fail?

    • All startups are an inherently risky proposition, but what are the specific challenges for startups in our industry?

    • What's unique about cybersecurity startups?

    • What's the most common reason you've seen a cyber startup not succeed?

    Thanks to our podcast sponsor, RevealSecurity!

    Reveal Security ITDR detects identity threats - post authentication - in and across SaaS applications and cloud services. Powered by unsupervised machine learning, it continuously monitors and validates the behavior of trusted human users, APIs and other entities, accurately detecting anomalies that signal an in-progress identity threat. Visit reveal.security


    Is "Compliance Doesn't Equal Security" a Pointless Argument? Feb 01, 2024
    Show notes

    All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series.

    Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap (@geoffbelknap), CISO, LinkedIn. Joining me is our guest, Derek Fisher, Executive director of product security, JPMorgan.

    In this episode:

    • A security program shouldn't stop at compliance, but that doesn't mean we should undervalue it, right?

    • Why are we so quick to dismiss compliance as simple check boxes?

    • Why is compliance important and why is it often getting a bad name these days?

    • What are the elements that make a great solution?

    Thanks to our podcast sponsor, RevealSecurity!

    Reveal Security ITDR detects identity threats - post authentication - in and across SaaS applications and cloud services. Powered by unsupervised machine learning, it continuously monitors and validates the behavior of trusted human users, APIs and other entities, accurately detecting anomalies that signal an in-progress identity threat. Visit reveal.security


    CISOs Responsibilities Before and After an M&A Jan 25, 2024
    Show notes

    All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series.

    Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap (@geoffbelknap), CISO, LinkedIn. Joining me is our guest, Alexandra Landegger, Executive Director and CISO, Collins Aerospace.

    In this episode:

    • Why do mergers and acquisitions always present challenges to an organization?

    • When it comes to cybersecurity, how involved should a CISO be before AND after an acquisition?

    • Can cybersecurity considerations make or break a deal?

    • What skills did you find yourself flexing with your first M&A experience?

    Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Aphinia!

    Join Aphinia, a professional tribe of superheroes fighting cybercriminals. If you are a CISO, VP or a Director of cybersecurity, get instant free access to thousands of your peers, career advice, networking opportunities, consulting gigs and more. Join the good guys' team because the only way to succeed is together: https://aphinia.com/#signup_form


    Use Red Teaming To Build, Not Validate, Your Security Program Jan 18, 2024
    Show notes

    All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series.

    Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Steve Zalewski. Joining us is our sponsored guest, Richard Ford, CTO, Praetorian.

    In this episode:

    • When did we all agree that red teaming was about validating security?

    • Does it seem like increasingly red teaming is a catch all term for a whole lot of testing that isn't clearly defined?

    • Is this making it hard to see its value?

    • Can moving red teaming upstream be more valuable to your organization?

    Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Praetorian

    Praetorian helps companies adopt a prevention-first cybersecurity strategy by actively uncovering vulnerabilities and minimizing potential weaknesses before attackers can exploit them.


    The Do's and Don'ts of Approaching CISOs Jan 11, 2024
    Show notes

    All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series.

    Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Steve Zalewski. Joining us is our guest, Adam Glick, CISO, PSG.

    In this episode:

    • Vendors need to reach out to CISOs, but what does a successful approach look like?

    • Do vendors often spray and pray with outreach, rather than doing a bare minimum of research?

    • What else can vendors do to try to create meaningful outreach to CISOs?

    • How do you like security sales professionals to build a relationship with you?

    Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Praetorian

    Praetorian helps companies adopt a prevention-first cybersecurity strategy by actively uncovering vulnerabilities and minimizing potential weaknesses before attackers can exploit them.


    Doing Third Party Risk Management Right Jan 04, 2024
    Show notes

    All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series.

    Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap (@geoffbelknap), CISO, LinkedIn. Joining me is our guest, Erik Decker, CISO, Intermountain Health.

    In this episode:

    • Why are we all struggling trying to manage third-party risk?
    • Why do the hated questionnaires seem like compliance checkbox efforts?
    • Does anyone believe it reduces risk?
    • What's the right approach and how do you strike the right balance?

    Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Praetorian

    Praetorian helps companies adopt a prevention-first cybersecurity strategy by actively uncovering vulnerabilities and minimizing potential weaknesses before attackers can exploit them.


    Warning Signs You're About To Be Attacked Dec 14, 2023
    Show notes

    All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series.

    Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Steve Zalewski. Joining me is our sponsored guest, Trevor Hilligoss, senior director of security research, SpyCloud.

    In this episode:

    • What are the things that raise red flags that you're about to experience an attack?
    • What signals set off your Spidey sense that things could go sideways?
    • What are the early warning signs an attack is underway?
    • Did you learn anything new?

    Thanks to our podcast sponsor, SpyCloud

    Get ahead of ransomware attacks by acting on a common precursor: infostealer malware. SpyCloud recaptures what's stolen from infostealer-infected systems, and alerts your team to take action before compromised authentication data can be used by criminals to target your business. Get our latest research and check your malware exposure at spycloud.com/ciso.


    Do We Have to Fix ALL the Critical Vulnerabilities? Dec 07, 2023
    Show notes

    All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series.

    Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap (@geoffbelknap), CISO, LinkedIn. Joining me is our guest, David Christensen, VP, CISO, PlanSource.

    In this episode:

    • How do you actually focus your patching efforts on the vulnerabilities that are seen as universally holding the most risk?
    • With limited resources, is it possible to "patch all the things"?
    • How do we focus patching efforts to fix the most vital issues quickly?
    • What are the risks we're dealing with?

    Thanks to our podcast sponsor, SpyCloud

    Get ahead of ransomware attacks by acting on a common precursor: infostealer malware. SpyCloud recaptures what's stolen from infostealer-infected systems, and alerts your team to take action before compromised authentication data can be used by criminals to target your business. Get our latest research and check your malware exposure at spycloud.com/ciso.


    Mitigating Generative AI Risks Nov 30, 2023
    Show notes

    All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series.

    Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap (@geoffbelknap), CISO, LinkedIn. Joining us is our guest, Jerich Beason, CISO, WM.

    In this episode:

    • Does generative AI come with a new set of risks?
    • How can we address these risks to take advantage of its benefits?
    • How do we approach a much desired technology we're not so sure how we should secure?
    • How can we take what we've learned from past technological advances and apply it to mitigate risks with generative AI?

    Thanks to our podcast sponsor, SpyCloud

    Get ahead of ransomware attacks by acting on a common precursor: infostealer malware. SpyCloud recaptures what's stolen from infostealer-infected systems, and alerts your team to take action before compromised authentication data can be used by criminals to target your business. Get our latest research and check your malware exposure at spycloud.com/ciso.


    Building a Cyber Strategy for Unknown Unknowns Nov 16, 2023
    Show notes

    All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series.

    Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap (@geoffbelknap), CISO, LinkedIn. Joining us is our sponsored guest, Himaja Motheram, Censys.

    In this episode:

    • How can one create a security program around unknown problems?
    • Don't we know a lot of the things we lack visibility into that can cause security issues?
    • But what about the things you don't even know about in the first place?
    • Will that thing we don't even know to look at, ever cause a security issue?

    Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Censys

    Censys is the leading Internet Intelligence Platform for Threat Hunting and Exposure Management. We provide the most comprehensive, accurate, and up-to-date map of the internet, which scans 45x more services than the nearest competitor across the world's largest certificate database (>10B). Learn more at www.censys.com.


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