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    Decoding the Gurus

    An exiled Northern Irish anthropologist and a hitchhiking Australian psychologist take a close look at the contemporary crop of ‘secular gurus’, iconoclasts, and other exiles from the mainstream, offering their own brands of unique takes and special insights.

    Leveraging two of the most diverse accents in modern podcasting, Chris and Matt dig deep into the claims, peek behind the psychological curtains, and try to figure out once and for all… What’s it all About?

    Join us, as we try to puzzle our way through and talk some smart-sounding smack about the intellectual giants of our age, from Jordan Peterson to Robin DiAngelo. Are they revolutionary thinkers or just grifters with delusions of grandeur?

    Join us and let’s find out!

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    Copyright: © Copyright 2024 Christopher Kavanagh and Matthew Browne

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    Mini Decoding: Back in the K-Hole Mar 29, 2025
    Show notes

    In this very special episode, Matt and Chris, despite swearing off any further Dr. K content after their previous three-part series, find themselves bleary-eyed and once again tumbling into the familiar depths of the K-Hole.

    Yes, they’re back with Dr. K, everyone’s favourite enlightened Twitch non-therapy therapist, now emerging from a self-declared midlife crisis with some powerful new revelations. Chief among them: while enlightenment may not technically be for sale, you can certainly pay to “level up your propensity for it.”

    After years of humble-bragging about undercharging for his mental health guides, Dr. K has boldly pivoted to defending high-priced spiritual initiations. If you thought enlightenment involved effort, introspection, and maybe a bit of humility, think again—it turns out you can outsource your spiritual growth to a guru, who will do the grinding for you. Great news for Elon Musk.

    Join Matt and Chris as they machete their way through a jungle of surreal analogies—landscaping contracts, parental down payments, Bluetooth enlightenment, and monetised spiritual energy transfer—all in service of a worldview where the real obstacle to self-actualisation is your reluctance to wire $10,000 to a spiritually enriched craftsman for a golden amulet.

    So fill up your chakras, empty your critical thinking cup, and enjoy this trip through the mystic marketplace—where your spiritual awakening is just one overpriced relic away.

    Links

    • Squeex: Indian Hate on the Internet (A Discussion w/ Dr. K)
    • DTG- Dr. K (Part 1): OPed Ayurvedic Medicine vs. Nerfed 'Western' Allopathy
    • DTG- Dr. K (Part 2): Rhetorical Judo Flips
    • DTG- Dr. K (Part 3): Therapeutic Non-Therapy


    Gurometer: Naomi Klein Mar 23, 2025
    Show notes

    In the wake of our Naomi Klein episode, the masses have spoken. And like the responsible Gurometricians that we are, we've taken your feedback to heart and thus open this episode with a series of scientific and spiritual recitations. Then it's straight back into the sweet science—and mystical art—of Gurometry, as we test how well it measures up to Naomi Klein’s anti-capitalist spirit. Fun for the whole family!

    P.S. Don't worry—Chris Langan’s Gurometer has not been forgotten and will be arriving very soon!

    The full episode is available for Patreon subscribers (1hr 4 mins).

    Join us at: https://www.patreon.com/DecodingTheGurus

    Gurometer: Naomi Klein

    00:00 Introduction

    01:29 Sponsor Shoutouts!

    03:29 Naomi Klein Feedback

    05:03 Podcast Format Limitations and Reading the Book!

    11:37 Consistency in Standards of Evaluation

    20:21 Evaluating the Arguments Independent of the Conclusions

    24:53 The Importance of Disconfirming Evidence

    26:28 Differing Definitions Cross-Culturally

    29:36 The Gurometer

    29:59 Galaxy Brainness

    32:03 Cultishness

    34:02 Anti-Establishmentarianism

    38:12 Grievance Mongering

    38:55 Self-Aggrandizement

    41:29 Cassandra Complex

    44:06 Revolutionary Theories

    46:53 Pseudo Profound Bullshit

    49:25 Conspiracy Mongering

    53:57 Excessive Profiteering

    54:48 Moral Grandstanding

    56:04 Final Scores and Reflections

    58:52 Quickfire Guru Bonus Points


    Naomi Klein: It was Neoliberal Capitalism all along! Mar 15, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode, your favourite neoliberal Decoder shills take a break from managing the decline of late-stage capitalism to examine the insights of famed writer and renegade activist Naomi Klein. The focus is her latest literary offering, Doppelganger, where Klein wrestles with the existential dread of being confused with Naomi Wolf and uses that mix-up as a gateway to explore the "Mirror World" of conspiracy theories and online gurus (a landscape our listeners know all too well).

    Along the way, Matt and Chris discover Klein's views on Steve Bannon's dubious charm (and what percentage he gets right), the cause of Russell Brand's descent, the real agenda behind conspiracy theories, and why neoliberal capitalism remains the root of all evil. Plus, special guest interviewer Ryan Grim parachutes to 'just ask questions' about the lab leak, vaccine side effects and other forbidden topics that the people were not allowed to talk about!

    So, whether you’re a champagne socialist, a crypto libertarian, a neoliberal shill, or just here for the popcorn, join Matt and Chris as they parse Klein’s content and consider: is Klein speaking truth to power, or just preaching to the choir?

    Sources

    • Penguin Books: How did conspiracy theories become mainstream? | Naomi Klein | Big Questions
    • Naomi Klein. Doppelganger: A Trip Into the Mirror World.
    • Politics and Prose. Naomi Klein — Doppelganger: A Trip into the Mirror World - with Ryan Grim
    • THIS- The Rebel Sell: If we all hate consumerism, how come we can’t stop shopping?
    • Ryan McBeth: Exposing the Military Industrial Complex


    Special Supplementary Material: Two Psychologists, One Anthropologist, Three Beers Mar 08, 2025
    Show notes

    In this special quasi-crossover episode, we stare deeply into the abyss while enjoying a beverage with renowned psychologist and occasional podcast co-host, Mickey Inzlicht.

    P.S. The Decoding of Naomi Klein is coming next week!

    Two Psychologists, One Anthropologist, Three Beers

    00:27 Introduction

    05:57 Mickey's Sabbatical in Japan

    12:13 Sensemaking 3.0

    25:25 Francis Foster's Bizarre Podcast Roast

    34:38 Sabine Hossenfelder thinks Academia is Communism

    36:11 The Irony of YouTube Incentives

    39:34 Proper Criticisms of Academia

    43:28 Is Academia Centrally Planned?

    46:24 Culture War Pandering

    53:53 Entering the Matt-rix

    55:00 In Bed with the Russians notices the Red Scare Wounded Bird Pose

    01:00:03 On the etiquette of Replications

    01:06:17 Academic Debates on the Effect of Culture on Visual Illusions: Joe Henrich vs. Amir & Firestone

    01:11:18 The Legend of Captain Cook: Sahlins vs Obeyesekere

    01:12:58 Ideas vs People: Sarah Haider, Colin Wright and an epidemic of hypocrisy

    01:17:19 Admitting Mistakes and Research Integrity

    01:24:38 Interpersonal Relationships vs. Adversarial Systems

    01:33:24 Wastage in Academia

    01:39:49 Elon Musk, Pregnancy, and Modern Cults

    01:49:01 Signing Off

    The full episode is available for Patreon subscribers (1hr 51 mins).

    Join us at: https://www.patreon.com/DecodingTheGurus

    Sources

    • Mickey's Substack: Speak Now, Regret Later
    • Inzlicht, M., Cameron, C. D., D’Cruz, J., & Bloom, P. (2024). In praise of empathic AI. Trends in Cognitive Sciences, 28(2), 89-91.Chicago. And a summary article by Mickey!
    • Bad Boys Done Good vs Triggernometry host Francis Foster
    • Sabine Hossenfelder - Should we defund academia?
    • Alexander Beiner - From Rebel Wisdom to Kainos
    • Joe Henrich's thread responding to the Dorsa and Chaz paper
    • Chris' old blog on Captain Cook and the second part
    • Amir, D., & Firestone, C. (2025, January 25). Is visual perception WEIRD? The Müller-Lyer illusion and the Cultural Byproduct Hypothesis. https://doi.org/10.31234/osf.io/y7mtf
    • In Bed with the Russians - Red Scared


    Supplementary Material 24: Dialogos with Greek Gods, the Metaphysics of Pepe, and Red-Pilled Embarrassment Feb 28, 2025
    Show notes

    Chris and Matt confront their inner demons, manifest their personal deities, and dive into the Onto-Logos.

    Supplementary Material 24

    00:00 Introduction

    02:32 Matt's Surprise Shaming

    06:39 Jordan Peterson's Inner Monologue Revealed

    10:04 Trump on Ukraine

    15:22 Sean Carroll explains US cuts to science funding

    16:47 Bleak Prospects for the US

    24:14 Aella vs. Arrogant Red Pill Man

    37:22 Be wary of Overcorrecting

    43:11 John Vervaeke meets Hermes

    52:59 False Dichotomies of the Spirit

    01:03:38 Entering into Dialogos with Matt's Inner Darwin

    01:07:39  Perspectival and participatory phenomenological identity transformation.

    01:09:20 Other ways of knowing spirits

    01:13:45 Materialists and their Monological Mindsets

    01:18:37 Welcome to the Onto-Logos

    01:24:06 Bad Faith Commenters

    01:29:35 Pageau and the Metaphysics of Pepe the Frog

    01:36:32 Next Book Review: Other Minds

    The full episode is available for Patreon subscribers (1hr 41 mins).

    Join us at: https://www.patreon.com/DecodingTheGurus

    Sources

    • Third Eye Drops: Encountering Higher Consciousness, The Daimon & The Paradox of Reality | Dr. John Vervaeke
    • Dave Rubin's video of Peterson's speech at the ARC conference
    • Whatever podcast: She Did 100 Men In 1 DAY?! 1,000 NEXT?! Lily Phillips, Eva Lovia, Aella, Andrew! | Dating Talk#227
    • Aella's Substack
    • Sean Carroll: Bonus Episode | Cuts to Science Funding and Why They Matter
    • Sabine Hossenfelder: Trump and Musk Take On Academia
    • Huberman tweeting excitedly about the funding cuts
    • Jonathan Pageau: Supplement to the Metaphysics of Pepe Interview with Jordan Peterson


    Supplementary Material 23: Content Shark Psychology, Rorschach Tweets, and the Art of Radicalisation Feb 22, 2025
    Show notes

    Chris and Matt have their models exploded, the maps ripped up, and their minds blown as the Gurusphere expands into exciting new territory.

    Supplementary Material 23

    02:47 Chris Williamson blows our minds!

    08:57 Content Predator psychology and motivational posting

    12:28 Balancing the Scales

    14:07 Eric Weinstein the master of Rorschach Tweets

    20:26 Modern Sages Reunited: Bret Weinstein and Joe Rogan

    24:29 Open-Minded Joe Rogan

    34:26 Maybe prescriptions are actually bad!

    37:38 Andrew Gold expands into Race & IQ

    46:47 4 Warning Signs of Radicalism

    56:45 Monomaniacal Fixation vs. Pluralism

    01:05:26 Rejoinder: What if it is a diagnostic?

    01:09:43 Lex wants to join DOGE

    01:10:31 Lex's next world leader interview: Modi

    01:14:57 Matt's Final Thought: People contain multitudes

    01:16:57 Outro

    The full episode is available for Patreon subscribers (1hrs 19 mins).

    Join us at: https://www.patreon.com/DecodingTheGurus

    Sources

    • Eric Weinstein's profound tweet on history as we know it
    • The Joe Rogan Experience#2269- Bret Weinstein
    • Andrew Gold Heretics: CONTROVERSIAL: Are Some Races DUMBER? - Nathan Cofnas (4K)
    • Lex wistfully imagines joining DOGE and thinks deeply about his upcoming interview with Modi
    • Recent investigation of 'Race Realist' networks and outlets
    • Kruglanski, A. W., & Moskalenko, S. (2025). Psychology of the Extreme. Taylor & Francis.


    Chris Langan: The Smartest Person in the World with a 200 IQ! Feb 21, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode, Matt finally gets his revenge on Chris by dragging him deep into the eccentric world of Chris Langan—the self-proclaimed possessor of a 200 IQ and creator of The Cognitive Theoretic Model of the Universe, yet another grand unifying theory of everything. Langan presents himself as an intellectual titan, offering mathematical, social, religious, and philosophical insights so profound that mere mortals can barely grasp them.

    Prepare to have the mysteries of the universe, God, anti-God, angels, and demons unveiled. Consciousness, determinism, and free will? All finally explained. But that’s not all—somehow, it all connects to globalist plots, election conspiracies, vaccines, UFOs, and, of course, the devil pulling the strings.

    Join us for conservative pundit Michael Knowles’ therapy session with one of his idols-a man who reassures him that he is a very smart boy and that his fundamentalist Christian beliefs are, in fact, completely correct.

    If you thought Eric Weinstein was something, imagine him cranked up to 12. That’s Chris Langan...

    Also... get ready for Matt's double down on his Aussie food takes.

    Links

    • CTMU Radio: Chris Langan - The Interview THEY Didn't Want You To See
    • Malcolm Gladwell interview discussing Chris Langan
    • Good Reddit post on the problems of the MEGA IQ test


    Decoding Academia 32: Do Babies REALLY like good guys? Feb 20, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode, Matt and Chris take a look at a recent developmental psychology paper on the social evaluation of young babies. Do they display a preference for agents who are nice to others or could they care less at the babbling age? This is a large-scale, multi-lab, preregistered replication effort of a rather influential paper so it ticks all of Chris' Open Science boxes, but how does Matt react? Is he stuck in his pre-replication crisis paradigms? Join us to find out and along the way find out about baby Matt's psychotic tendencies, how cats feel about cucumbers, and how Matt narrowly escaped being eaten by a big ol' crocodile.

    Paper Reference: Lucca, K., Yuen, F., Wang, Y., Alessandroni, N., Allison, O., Alvarez, M., ... & Hamlin, J. K. (2025). Infants’ Social Evaluation of Helpers and Hinderers: A Large‐Scale, Multi‐Lab, Coordinated Replication Study. Developmental Science, 28(1), e13581.

    Original Study: Hamlin, J. K., Wynn, K., & Bloom, P. (2007). Social evaluation by preverbal infants. Nature, 450(7169), 557-559.

    Decoding Academia 32

    00:00 Introduction

    00:59 Matt's Close Shave with a Crocodile

    03:15 Discussion on Crocodile Behavior

    05:13 Introduction to the Academic Paper

    06:18 Understanding Registered Reports

    07:49 Details of the Replication Study

    12:07 The Many Babies Study

    18:23 Challenges in Developmental Psychology

    20:35 Original Study and Replication Efforts

    26:27 HARKing and the QRP problem in psychology

    34:24 Discussing the Results

    36:58 Exploring the Red Ball Experiment

    39:38 Forest Plot Analysis

    41:19 Infant Preferences and Social Evaluation

    43:24 Failure to Replicate the Original Study

    47:06 Exploratory Analysis and Moderators

    50:03 Interpretations and Implications

    54:21 Evolutionary Perspectives on Social Behavior

    58:34 Prosocial Evolutionary Speculation

    01:05:10 Psychopathic Baby Matt

    01:06:28 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections

    01:11:20 Comparative Psychology on Snake Hatred!

    The full episode is available for Patreon subscribers (1hrs 15 mins).

    Join us at: https://www.patreon.com/DecodingTheGurus


    Supplementary Material 22: Tim Tams, Nazi Salutes, and AI Demonology Feb 12, 2025
    Show notes

    We immerse ourselves in the Dark Side of the Gurusphere and come out forever altered by what we've seen and praying for an escape from this demon-haunted world.

    00:00 Introduction

    01:38 Reverse Culture Shock in Australia

    11:01 Tim Tams and Food Progress

    12:14 Russia Today endorses Lex's statements on Zelensky

    19:20 Elon Musk's Controversial Gesture

    38:31 Destiny's (Most Recent) Controversy

    01:02:12 Bryan Johnson vs. Andrew Huberman: Civility Insights

    01:14:21 Sacriligeous Sycophancy: Bill Ackman and Sam Altman

    01:15:55 Jonathan Pageau's Stargate Theories

    01:26:52 Escaping the Demon-Haunted World

    The full episode is available for Patreon subscribers (1hrs 30 mins).

    Join us at: https://www.patreon.com/DecodingTheGurus

    Sources

    • Russia Today tweeting about Lex and announcing his upcoming interview with Putin
    • Joe Rogan Experience #2260 - Lex Fridman
    • Video comparing Musk's gesture with other politicians' gestures
    • Pxie's statement about the lawsuit on her substack and Destiny's response on his subreddit
    • Bryan Johnson and Huberman's Twitter Exchange
    • Bill Ackman suggesting Trump's achievements are greater than God's
    • Jonathan Pageau's thread on Stargates


    Gurometer: Peter Thiel *Patreon Preview" Feb 11, 2025
    Show notes

    'Tis a New Year (sort of), and amidst all the chaos in the world, we thought we'd offer a small glimmer of light by making this Patreon episode available to everyone! If you enjoy it, consider joining us on Patreon—or not, it's your call!

    In this episode, Matt and Chris scry through the portents and ponder the apocalyptic insights of the tech and finance titan Peter Thiel. We all know that Thiel is an urbane gentleman of great refinement with a collection of revolutionary ideas but does he make the Gurometer sing? Tune in to find out—and, as a bonus, learn more than you ever wanted to know about the intricacies of academic grading systems.


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