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    Dating While Gray™

    When writer Laura Stassi’s marriage ended after nearly 30 years, she asked friends and relationship experts for advice on navigating the dating scene. On Dating While Gray, Laura shares what she’s learned: love doesn’t get easier as you get older.

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    Laura’s Podcast Pick: To See Each Other Oct 31, 2024

    Laura shares “A Beloved Nursing Home,” which kicks off Season 2 of tTo See Each Other. Show host George Goehl travels to Lincoln County, Wisconsin, to get to know a colorful group of people who are fighting for the future of the last remaining public nursing home in the community.


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    Romantic Love in Limbo Oct 24, 2024

    It’s the dating situation no one dares think about … until it happens to them. Laura discusses ambiguous loss and next steps with Mike, whose wife has been diagnosed with a terminal brain disease, and marriage and family therapist Linda Hershman.



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    The Stay-or-Go Dilemma Oct 17, 2024

    Is there ever a right time to end a romantic relationship – especially when there’s a lot of history involved? Chris and other listeners share their struggles, plus Laura chats with marriage and family therapist Linda Hershman about discernment counseling.


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    Ready, Aim, Swipe! Oct 10, 2024

    Dating sites and apps can be a huge time suck and overwhelmingly, users report feeling burned out. Should we trust our gut and make quick swiping decisions? Or does being more thoughtful about the process lead to love success? Laura talks strategies and outcomes with relationship coaches and online soldiers.


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    Listener Mailbag Oct 03, 2024

    Laura shares comments and questions from listeners responding to previous DWG episodes.


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    Love, In So Many Words Sep 26, 2024

    Laura chats with novelist Susan Coll about the inspiration behind her novels featuring protagonists in dysfunctional relationships. Plus, a poet captures the ups and downs of her love life, and a retired biotechnology writer turns to penning “elder erotica.”



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    Advice from a Sex Journalist Sep 19, 2024

    Using toys, getting STI tested, embracing the use-it-or-lose it mantra … Laura shares excerpts of a candid Facebook Live event with Michael Castleman, a longtime sex journalist and author, most recently, of “Sizzling Sex for Life: Everything You Need to Know to Maximize Erotic Pleasure at Any Age.”


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    Inside the Lives of Older Singles Sep 12, 2024

    The Golden Bachelorette premiere is approaching! Laura wonders if this time, the reality show will be more, you know, real. She also shares excerpts from “Beyond ‘Reality’ TV: Inside the Lives of Older Singles,” a Dating While Gray/American Public Media radio broadcast special.


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    Life After A Gray Divorce Sep 05, 2024

    In Anita's lifetime, the divorce rate for Americans over 55 has doubled. People are living longer, divorce stigma has decreased and women are more financially independent. But leaving a decades-long marriage … is a big life upheaval. Anita gets personal accounts from two gray divorcees about what it was like to rebuild their identities, finances and freedom post-divorce. They discuss money management, surfing and why women initiate divorce most often in heterosexual partnerships.

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    - Laura Stassi is a writer, editor and the host of the podcast "Dating While Gray."

    - Dr. Stephanie Han is a literature scholar, award-winning author and educator.

    Special thanks to Nanette Murphy and Linda Lingo for sharing their thoughts for this episode!

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    (Encore) Starting All Over Again Aug 29, 2024

    Pilot episode! Laura attends her 40th high school reunion, where her former classmates open up about their own love lives and dating strategies. Then, she revisits a man she went on a date with to get schooled on online dating and the “three-date” rule. Finally, Laura gleans inspiration from a couple who met at the apartment building where they both liv


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    (Encore) Pants on Fire Aug 22, 2024

    Can we keep the love faith while circumventing the deceivers? Security analyst Kim Key offers advice and tips on avoiding online romance scams, based on her research and reporting for PCMag. Then, Laura hears about conducting background checks on potential dating partners from listeners including Paula, who says it’s her new M.O. after her experience with a suspiciously eager love interest. Finally, journalist and “Duped” author Abby Ellen shares about uncloaking her former fiancé. She wonders if he’s simply larger than life; turns out he’s a lying liar.


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    (Encore) Sage Advice Aug 15, 2024

    Words of romance wisdom from: Writer Sophy Burnham, who offers insights based on decades of personal experience; Leora Hoffman, an attorney-turned- matchmaker who built her business while finding a partner for herself; DWG listeners; and marriage and family therapist Katherine Woodward Thomas, author of “Calling In The One" and "Conscious Uncoupling."



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    (Encore) Romance and Money Aug 08, 2024

    Laura talks with Shawn Leamon, a financial expert who usually explores money from an uncoupling point of view. Shawn offers tips and advice to Laura's other guests: Ginny, who's been so financially burned that she literally can't afford to be vulnerable; Sue, who's finding trouble meeting someone whom she considers her financial equal; and Barry, who blames his debt-free but modest lifestyle for his lackluster love life.


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    (Encore) Love in the Stars Aug 01, 2024

    Laura’s a Scorpio, and she reads her horoscope every morning for fun. But is there more to astrology than sun signs, and can it help us make romantic connections? Laura talks with Koku, who looks to the zodiac as a “quiet consultant” in her life. Then astrologer Leslie McGuirk says sun signs and daily horoscopes can be entertaining, but there’s a lot more to it than that. After, Laura meets with a self-taught chart reader to learn what might be in the stars for her romantic future. Mr. G, Mr. T or Mr. W – whose planets are best aligned with Laura’s?



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    Speed Dating While Gray: The Happily Ever After Journey Jul 25, 2024

    Jerry’s in his early seventies when friends introduce him to 65-year-old, never-married Ann. They share with Laura the twists and turns of their romantic relationship.



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    (Encore) Dating 101: The First Date Jul 18, 2024

    Coach Amy Schoen returns for do’s, don’ts, and dishing with host Laura Stassi and Paulina, who can’t figure out if dating is different because she’s older, or because she’s dating Americans. What is a date, anyway? Then there’s Glyn, who offers cautionary tales about manners, and menu choices. Finally, we hear from Paula, who recounts that time she fielded a highly personal question.



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    Speed Dating While Gray: When A Helper Needs Help Jul 11, 2024

    Laura chats with Kerry, a psychotherapist whose hopes for romantic companionship are faltering.



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    (Encore) Boomerang Love Jul 04, 2024

    Who hasn’t done a little digging to find a flame from our younger years? But, as Laura discovers, taking the next steps to reach out is when things can get complicated.



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    (Encore) Unexpected Love Jun 27, 2024

    Are you starting to fret that despite all of your efforts, you’ll never find The One? Here’s a little inspiration to relax and just let it be: three stories of not seeking love, but magically finding it.



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    Speed Dating While Gray: The Only Ring is from a Phone Jun 20, 2024

    Shared mission, different game plan: Laura chats with Caitlin Pierce, creator of the reality dating show Hang Up from Radiotopia/PRX.



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    (Encore) Clicking, Swiping, Boosting, Super Liking Jun 13, 2024

    Since the first modern dating website was created in the mid-’90s, millions of people have spent a lot of time, energy and dollars. So why is the jury still out on whether technology actually leads to lasting love connections?




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    Speed Dating While Gray: Finding Home Jun 06, 2024

    Laura gets insights from Ryan Frederick, author of “Right Place, Right Time: The Ultimate Guide for Choosing a Home for the Second Half of Life.”



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    (Encore) Making Moves May 30, 2024

    Laura talks with Carson, whose change in relationship status sparks a cross-country move. Then, Laura hears from unlucky-in-love Albert, who wonders if it makes sense to re-establish himself somewhere other than his longtime hometown to find what he’s looking for, relationship-wise. For advice, Laura taps Bill Chopik, associate psychology professor and director of Michigan State University's Close Relationships Lab.

    Finally, Laura meets up with Margo, who lives in the big rig she drives cross-country for her career. Margo loves her life behind the wheel but is starting to think that for her personal life as well as dog Xander’s well-being, it might be time to come off the road.


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    Speed Dating While Gray: Not All Who Wander … May 23, 2024

    Laura chats with Stephanie, who’s living around the globe on a budget after divorce and retirement.


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    (Encore) The Older Brain on Love May 16, 2024

    Remember the PSA that aired on TV for years, with the egg and the frying pan: This is your brain, this is drugs, this is your brain on drugs? It seems like love can be a lot like that, too, even when we’re older. Why? For answers, we turn to perhaps the premier expert on the brain and love: Helen Fisher.



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    Speed Dating While Gray: Tell Meredith Goldstein All About It May 09, 2024

    Laura chats with one of Dating While Gray’s role models: Meredith Goldstein, Boston Globe advice columnist and host of the Love Letters podcast.



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    Laura’s Podcast Pick: An Arm and a Leg, The Medicare Episode May 02, 2024

    Medicare is more complicated, and expensive, than many people realize. Also, it’s not too early to start thinking about this benefit. An Arm and a Leg host Dan Weissmann gets the scoop from Sarah Jane Tribble, who’s been covering the story for KFF Health News and the Washington Post.



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    One Love, Two Homes Apr 25, 2024

    A growing number of older couples are not sharing space 24/7. It’s called living apart together, or LAT. Anthropologist Helen Fisher reveals her LAT arrangement with husband John. Then Laura chats with Vicki Larson, author of the forthcoming “LATitude: How to Make a Live Apart Together Relationship Work.” Finally, an LAT arrangement involving a duplex sparks a courtroom battle.


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    Smoke … and Mirrors Apr 18, 2024

    Ahead of the international get-high holiday of 4/20, Laura chats with cannabis researcher Dr. Peter Grinspoon. He also has thoughts about dating. Plus, the Golden Bachelor couple announced they’re getting divorced. Did you see it coming? Listeners – and Laura – have thoughts.


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    Anatomy of a Fall Apr 11, 2024

    Crystal and Dave clicked! First online, and then in real life. Are they moving too fast? Have the red flags been flying all along? Laura talks with each of them about their relationship journey.




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    Love Is A Family Affair Apr 04, 2024

    Sydney helps mom Jennifer navigate the dating apps. Widower Herb offers daughter Jen tips for a successful long-term relationship, even as bad timing keeps him apart from his longtime love. Both stories prove that the ties that bind us need not be restrictive. They can provide just the right amount of support, at just the right time.



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    (Encore) Speed DWG: Dyeing To Be Dateable Mar 28, 2024

    In the first episode of our new microcast, Speed Dating While Gray, a matchmaker makes a provocative, off-topic comment about Laura’s gray hair.


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    Location, Location, Location Mar 21, 2024

    Does the number 1 rule in real estate value also apply to finding new love? Hometown dating field reports are filed by listeners including Marina, in Denmark’s capital city; and relational coach Diana Lockett, in a ruggedly scenic part of Canada.


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    Maybe I Do Mar 14, 2024

    Listener Stacy is mulling over a marriage proposal. History and tradition suggest that’s the ultimate romantic commitment expression. But at our age, does it make financial sense? For help answering that question, Laura calls on two experts: a financial planner, and a prenup attorney.



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    Sex On My Mind Mar 07, 2024

    Maybe we’re doing it, maybe we’re not. Maybe we want to, maybe we don’t. We might be thinking about it … intimacy coach Anna Marti offers insights for all of us, plus Cate and other listeners share their concerns.



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    Long Leap to Love Feb 29, 2024

    When it comes to finding love or making a commitment, is there ever an expiration date? Laura talks with Julie, who’s been on the dating market for almost a quarter-century. Then she checks in with Clyde and Trish, who’ve chosen the slow road despite instant chemistry.




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    Revisiting That Other Reality Dating Show Feb 22, 2024

    What happens when a journalist covering the older-dating beat tries to get real about a TV show? Listeners weigh in with their opinions – about The Golden Bachelor and also, everything Laura said about it for Slate’s recap podcast.



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    Dating in Real Life Feb 15, 2024

    Longtime dating coach Damona Hoffman offers practical and optimistic insights from her book, “F the Fairy Tale: Rewrite the Dating Myths and Live Your Own Love Story.” Plus, listeners share their true stories about the search for love.


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    Trailer: Reintroducing Dating While Gray Feb 08, 2024

    With true stories and expert insights, host Laura Stassi continues her journalistic mission to uncover and share what it takes to make and keep new love connections in the later years of life.


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    Encore: What (Some) Men Want Jan 25, 2024

    An online encounter has Laura wondering: When it comes to older heterosexual dating, are women trying to school men? Weighing in are widower Steve, a feminist who bristles at traditional advice; and Kevin, who’s still feeling the sting of the gray divorce his wife initiated.


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    Encore: Love and Business Jan 18, 2024

    When couples mix business and pleasure, can both their romantic and work partnerships survive and thrive? Laura talks with “accidental CEO” Allison, and home-building entrepreneur Karen. This episode sponsored by Edgespace.


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    Encore: More Dishing on Dating Jan 11, 2024

    With five committed relationships in 20 years, the apps are panning out for listener Jean. Plus, two former Dating While Gray guests randomly connect online and make a dinner date. Laura tags along and then uncovers what happened afterward. Was it a love hit … or a miss?


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    Encore: Dishing on Dating Jan 04, 2024

    After counting up the romantic encounters she’s had this year, Laura asks older singles for their numbers. Tea spillers include Vinnie and Rachel; Kevin, who discovers three times is not the charm; and Allison, who widens her Zip code parameters.




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    Encore: It’s 420 Somewhere Dec 28, 2023

    A dating site profile question leads Laura to explore cannabis use among older daters. Dosages, smoking vs. ingesting, medical and bedroom benefits … listeners weigh in with their cautionary tales, tips, and true stories.


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    Encore: Health and Romance Dec 21, 2023

    Shannon’s back on the dating market, this time with the diagnosis of a gradually disabling disease. Patrice’s plans with her long-time partner are upended by a sudden health crisis. How do medical issues impact the love connections we find, and the ones we seek?


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    More Dishing on Dating Dec 14, 2023

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    Dishing on Dating Dec 07, 2023

    After counting up the romantic encounters she’s had this year, Laura asks older singles for their numbers. Tea spillers include Vinnie and Rachel; Kevin, who discovers three times is not the charm; and Allison, who widens her Zip code parameters.




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    The Golden Bachelor Recap: We All Turn on Gerry Dec 04, 2023

    On this final episode of our Golden Bachelor recap episode of The Waves, Gerry’s makes his decision but maybe loses the audience along the way.

    Podcast production by Brandon Nix and Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Daisy Rosario and Alicia Montgomery.

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    It’s 420 Somewhere Nov 30, 2023

    A dating site profile question leads Laura to explore cannabis use among older daters. Dosages, smoking vs. ingesting, medical and bedroom benefits … listeners weigh in with their cautionary tales, tips, and true stories.


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    (Encore Episode) Custom-Built Commitment Nov 23, 2023

    Laura talks with legendary women's college basketball coach Elaine Elliott, whose commitment to her partner endures long after the romance is over. Then, Norm and Jeanne share the story of how they’ve built a solid partnership without mentioning the "C" word. Finally, Laura sits down with public radio icon Diane Rehm, who puts her own modern spin on a traditional choice. (From April 2020)


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    Bonus: The Golden Bachelor Recap: Fantasy Suite Edition Nov 18, 2023

    On this week’s episode of The Waves, Gerry’s down to two women and two potential fantasy suites. How sweet do things actually get?

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    Health and Romance Nov 16, 2023

    Shannon’s back on the dating market, this time with the diagnosis of a gradually disabling disease. Patrice’s plans with her long-time partner are upended by a sudden health crisis. How do medical issues impact the love connections we find, and the ones we seek?


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    Bonus: The Golden Bachelor Recap: The Women Tell All and Mince No Words Nov 11, 2023

    On this week’s episode of The Waves, we get the first Women Tell All episode of The Golden Bachelor. Waves recap co-hosts Cheyna Roth and Laura Stassi have some thoughts for Gerry.

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    Love and Business Nov 09, 2023

    When couples mix business and pleasure, can both their romantic and work partnerships survive and thrive? Laura talks with “accidental CEO” Allison, and home-building entrepreneur Karen. This episode sponsored by Edgespace.


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    Bonus: Golden Bachelor Recap: Hometowns Will Always Be Cringey Nov 04, 2023

    On this week’s episode of The Waves, Gerry visits the hometowns of the last 3 women standing on The Golden Bachelor.

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    What (Some) Men Want Nov 02, 2023

    An online encounter has Laura wondering: When it comes to older heterosexual dating, are women trying to school men? Weighing in are widower Steve, a feminist who bristles at traditional advice; and Kevin, who’s still feeling the sting of the gray divorce his wife initiated.


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    Bonus: Golden Bachelor Recap: WTH, Gerry?! Oct 28, 2023

    On this week’s episode of The Waves, Golden Bachelor Gerry is rapidly approaching hometown dates and needs to narrow the pool down to three. To get there, we have a passionate one-on-one date and a high-stakes group date. Slate senior producer Cheyna Roth and Dating While Gray host Laura Stassi give their thoughts.

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    Dating, With Children Oct 26, 2023

    An unexpected life turn leaves mid-fifties Priya a single mother of a grade-schooler. Is it just a coincidence she’s struggling on the dating scene? Laura poses that question to researcher Lauren Harris. She reveals her study findings about dating desirability when young kids – and grandkids – are in the picture.


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    Bonus Episode from The Waves: The Golden Bachelor Recap: The 'D Word' Oct 21, 2023

    On this week’s episode of The Waves, Gerry says the D Word: Divorce. Laura Stassi, host of Dating While Gray, and Slate Senior Supervising Producer Daisy Rosario recap the fourth episode of The Golden Bachelor.

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    Anger Management Oct 19, 2023

    Bill turns to heavy metal music as he figures out a peaceful way forward after a second divorce and a health crisis. Anne is tired of feeling devastated by her split and wants to tap into some anger. Laura’s happy to lend Anne a hand -- and a baseball bat – as they visit a rage room.


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    Bonus Episode from The Waves: The Golden Bachelor Recap - Gerry's Crying Again Oct 14, 2023

    On this week’s episode of The Waves recapping The Golden Bachelor, we find Gerry in his feelings…again.Slate Senior Supervising Producer Daisy Rosario and Dating While Grey Host Laura Stassi give their thoughts on the third episode of Gerry’s journey to finding love and all the tears that go along with it.Podcast production by Vic Whitley-Berry with editorial oversight by Daisy Rosario and Alicia Montgomery.

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    After The End Oct 12, 2023

    Laura checks in with guests from previous seasons including LuAnn, who needs help with her boyfriend’s lack of awareness in the bedroom; Tim, who’s unsure what he wants in a new relationship; and Margo, a long-haul truck driver who’s ready to come off the road and find love again.


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    All That Glitters Oct 05, 2023

    Will “The Golden Bachelor’” mirror what it’s really like to be older and on the market … or will it be a hot mess? Laura chats with a “Bachelor” fan who’s also a millennial professor with a research focus on older-adult dating. Then Laura hears from Veronica, who went through the application process. Plus, Dating While Gray listeners offer their hot takes on whether the tried-and-true format will succeed with a more mature crowd.


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    Season 5 Trailer Sep 28, 2023

    Dating While Gray is back! Over 10 new episodes, Laura shares more true stories and expert advice on love and romance at age 50 and beyond ... plus, ponders if “The Golden Bachelor” is a good idea or a reality TV hot mess. Coming soon to your podcast feed – stay tuned a new episode every Thursday!


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    Love Seekers and Keepers Dec 15, 2022

    Sparks fly when Hunter and John meet at a Christmas party, though patience is needed for their love journey. An unexpected realization forces Susan and her spouse to make a relationship pivot. After happily never-married Nancy takes up tango dancing, she learns that romantic love has no limits of time, language, or distance.


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    Best of Friends Dec 08, 2022

    John and Jane click from the get-go after meeting on the dance floor, happily agreeing that being “just” friends is more than enough. When Lindsey’s seemingly perfect marriage shatters, she survives and thrives by starting a new tradition: breaking bread with her true companions. Suzanne promises Tom she’ll be by his side in sickness and in health. Their legal union unravels, but Suzanne’s commitment never wavers.


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    Pants On Fire Dec 01, 2022

    Security analyst Kim Key offers advice and tips on avoiding online romance scams, based on her research and reporting for PCMag. Then, Laura hears about conducting background checks on potential dating partners from listeners including Paula, who says it’s her new M-O after her experience with a suspiciously eager love interest. Finally, journalist and “Duped” author Abby Ellin shares about uncloaking her former fiance. She wonders if he’s simply larger than life; turns out he’s a lying liar.


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    Laura’s Podcast Pick – Uncoupled: Thank U, Next Nov 24, 2022

    Just in time for the breakup season, aka Turkey Drop, Laura shares an encore episode from WUNC’s podcast Embodied. Host Anita Rao is joined by “Love Letters” advice columnist Meredith Goldstein and Slate advice columnist Stacia Brown. They dish out advice on topics including navigating social media after a romance ends, and what to do with physical reminders. (Ask Laura, who burned her wedding dress after splitting, for her hot take on this.)
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    The Parent Trap Nov 17, 2022

    After two divorces, Gia’s on the fence about getting back out there. Daughter Lauryn aims to help by sharing ideas and resources, including this podcast! Then there’s gray dater Laura, whose partner seems less than enthusiastic about moving their relationship along. Are his grown kids the reason, or an excuse? Finally, DWG host Laura Stassi and her daughter compare notes on living together while exploring individual romantic pursuits. (How did that no-sleepovers pact turn out?)


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    Dating 101: The First Date Nov 10, 2022

    Coach Amy Schoen returns for do’s, don’ts, and dishing with host Laura Stassi and Paulina, who can’t figure out if dating is different because she’s older, or because she’s dating Americans. What is a date, anyway? Then there’s Glyn, who offers cautionary tales about manners, and menu choices. Finally, we hear from Paula, who recounts that time she fielded a highly personal question.


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    Dating 101: The Online Profile Nov 03, 2022

    Gray dater Karen shares a dilemma that’s all too common: She’s getting attention online, but not necessarily the kind she wants. Maybe it’s her online profile? For help, Laura taps photographer Ann Maas, and dating and relationship coach Amy Schoen. They critique Karen’s photos and write-up while offering advice for all of us on the love-seeking journey. Plus, listeners – and Laura! – weigh in on profiles that have won them over, or turned them off.


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    Hope After Heartbreak Oct 27, 2022

    On this episode, Laura talks with science journalist Florence Williams, author of “Heartbreak: A Personal and Scientific Journey.” Florence shares how the end of her long marriage sparked a health crisis and details her journey to healing – including turning to Mother Nature. We also hear from listeners who have rely on the great outdoors for help feeling better.


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    Great Expectations Oct 20, 2022

    On this episode, Laura talks with entrepreneur Rob. He’s taken a kind of statistician approach to recoupling and in the process has gathered some data dating points that may lead to a new business venture.

    Then Laura chats with journalist Vicki Larson, who uncovers a surprising statistic or two in her latest book, Not Too Old For That: How Women Are Changing the Story of Aging.

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    Making Moves Oct 13, 2022

    On this episode, Laura talks with Carson, whose change in relationship status sparked a cross-country move. Then, Laura hears from unlucky-in-love Albert, who wonders if it makes sense to re-establish himself somewhere other than his longtime hometown to find what he’s looking for, relationship-wise. For advice, Laura taps Bill Chopik, associate psychology professor and director of Michigan State University's Close Relationships Lab.

    Finally, Laura meets up with Margo, who lives in the big rig she drives cross-country for her career. Margo loves her life behind the wheel but is starting to think that for her personal life as well as dog Xander’s well-being, it might be time to come off the road.

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    Love Sick Oct 06, 2022

    In this episode, Laura talks with Carrie, who found a “hunkering down buddy” during lockdown. As quarantine lifted, though, their personality differences emerged.

    Then Laura chats with Betty, from Season 2, who out of the blue fell madly in love and changed her entire life. That was in February 2020. Did Betty’s new relationship withstand the challenges?

    Finally, two listeners weigh in with their experiences. Neither was looking for romance, necessarily. They found it anyway.

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    Season 4 Trailer Sep 29, 2022

    Welcome to a new season of Dating While Gray! Laura is back with a fresh collection of experiences, conversations and reflections on romance and relationships after 50. We’ll hear about couples whose partnership revealed a new side over the course of the pandemic (for better or worse), and we’ll enjoy words of wisdom from millennial sages! All that and more coming soon to your podcast feed – stay tuned for all the upcoming episodes.


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    Speed DWG: Show Me The Money Sep 22, 2022

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    Speed DWG: Online Love Lingo Sep 08, 2022

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    Speed DWG: The Harder They Fall Aug 25, 2022

    Unhappily married couples no doubt have heard the sentiment about staying together for the sake of their kids, or waiting for little ones to launch before splitting. But is either tactic ideal? In this episode, therapist Carol Hughes offers advice. She’s the author of “Home Will Never Be The Same Again: A Guide for Adult Children of Gray Divorce.”
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    Speed DWG: Sweet Dreams Aug 11, 2022

    Patricia and Joe are one of the most memorable couples in Dating While Gray history. We first met them in Season 2 just after they developed romantic feelings for each other through virtual communications. (You may recall Patricia initially was reluctant to get involved with Joe.) They join Laura again to share the magical coincidence that was the foundation for Patricia deciding to give Joe another chance.

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    Speed DWG: Gaining The Get Jul 28, 2022

    In the “Hashtag Love” episode from Season 3, we met Lewis, who used a social media platform to make a romantic connection. He joins Laura again to explain how he prepared from a religious point of view to start dating again after divorce.
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    Speed DWG: My Love Language Is Your Credit Score Jul 14, 2022

    In the “Money and Romance” episode from Season 2, we met Ginny, who discovered financial infidelity in her marriage. She joins Laura again with an update on her love life and how she’s applied lessons learned from that experience.

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    Speed DWG: Pillow Talk Jun 30, 2022

    Sexuality educator, researcher and writer Jane Fleishman talks more about her mission to promote sexual wellness in older people. Jane says it’s never too late to achieve pleasure.

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    Speed DWG: In The Moment Jun 16, 2022

    Meet Ann, who’s taking courses in MBSR, mindfulness based stress reduction. It helped her so much after her divorce that she wants to teach others how to use it to feel better in bad times.

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    Speed DWG: A Decent Proposal Jun 02, 2022

    After discovering that her professional skills don’t translate to her search for a romantic partner, career coach Melissa barters services with a matchmaker.

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    Speed DWG: Dyeing To Be Dateable May 19, 2022

    In the first episode of our new microcast, Speed Dating While Gray, a matchmaker makes a provocative, off-topic comment about Laura’s gray hair.

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    Introducing...Speed Dating While Gray! May 05, 2022

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    Caller, You're On The Air Apr 28, 2022

    On the Season 3 finale, Laura turns the mic over to DWG listeners. They share details from their personal, yet highly relatable, gray dating journeys. And they ask Laura to tap experts to address their questions related to sex, grown kids, and money. (Guess which topic makes Laura really squirm!) | Thanks to our sponsor SilverSingles. More at: silversingles.com/datingwhilegray


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    Unexpected Love Apr 21, 2022

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    How To Be Single Apr 14, 2022

    An entire generation grew up with songs on the radio that basically were cautionary tales about being single. 1968 brought us “One is the Loneliest Number.” 1972 gave us “Alone Again (Naturally).” And "All By Myself” charted in 1975. No wonder some of us are fearful of being on our own! So is it still popular opinion that being uncoupled is to be avoided at all costs? | Thanks to our sponsor SilverSingles. More at: silversingles.com/datingwhilegray.


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    Minding The Age Gap Apr 07, 2022

    Sugar daddies. Cougars. Cradle robbers. When it comes to couples with age differences, there are so many silly labels. It's true that May-December romances make some people uncomfortable, but after we reach a certain age, how much should an age gap even matter? | Thanks to our sponsor SilverSingles. More at www.silversingles.com/datingwhilegray.


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    Chatting Up Strangers Mar 31, 2022

    Laura doesn’t have trouble asking anyone about anything....for the podcast. But when it comes to her personal life, she needs help making conversation with new people without feeling awkward. How do you go from small talk to a real connection? | Thanks to our sponsor SilverSingles. More at www.silversingles.com/datingwhilegray.


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    Laura's Podcast Pick: Great Grief Mar 24, 2022

    Laura introduces listeners to Great Grief, a podcast about love and loss hosted by Grammy-nominated singer Nnenna Freelon who experienced a shift in every aspect of her life following the death of her husband Phil. | Learn more at www.greatgrief.com.


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    Baggage Claim Mar 17, 2022

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    Hashtag Love Mar 10, 2022

    With millions of people spending a chunk of time on social media sites daily, it seemed inevitable one of these platforms would elbow its way into the love business. How about using social media —officially and unofficially — to make love connections? | Thanks to our sponsor SilverSingles. More at www.silversingles.com/datingwhilegray.


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    Clicking, Swiping, Boosting, Super Liking Feb 24, 2022

    Since the first modern dating website was created in the mid-1990s, millions of people have spent a lot of time, energy and dollars dating online. So why is the jury still out on if technology actually leads to lasting love connections? | Thanks to our sponsor SilverSingles. More at: silversingles.com/datingwhilegray.


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    Pandemic Dating Field Notes Feb 17, 2022

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    Season 3 Trailer: Pickleball, Anyone? Feb 10, 2022

    Laura reflects on a favorite memory since last season: a post-vaccine, pre-variant moment in time when she picked up a new skill and a long-awaited opportunity to socialize. Welcome to Season 3 of Dating While Gray!


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    The Older Brain On Love Apr 22, 2021

    Remember the PSA that aired on TV for years, with the egg and the frying pan: This is your brain, this is drugs, this is your brain on drugs? It seems like love can be a lot like that, too, even when we’re older. But why? For answers, we turn to perhaps the premier expert on the brain and love: Helen Fisher. | Share your stories and questions at datingwhilegray@wunc.org.


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    Sex Education Apr 15, 2021

    Sex. As we get older, it seems like there’s a lot more to think about, and talk about, before actually...doin’ it. And it can be nerve-wracking, especially if we haven’t had a new partner – or any partner – in a very long time. For advice on sexual intimacy and aging, we turn to two experts. | Share your gray dating stories and questions with Laura at datingwhilegray@wunc.org.


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    Love In The Stars Apr 08, 2021

    Laura’s a Scorpio, and she reads her horoscope every morning for fun. But is there more to astrology than sun signs, and can it help us make romantic connections? | Support this show with a donation to wunc.org/give. Share your gray dating stories and questions with Laura at datingwhilegray@wunc.org.


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    Boomerang Love Apr 01, 2021

    Who hasn’t done a little digging to find a flame from our younger years? But Laura discovers that it's taking the next step to reach out when things can get a little complicated. | Support this show with a donation at wunc.org/give. Share your gray dating stories and questions with Laura at datingwhilegray@wunc.org.


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    Love After Loss Mar 25, 2021

    After meeting a widower who seems anxious to jump from first date to happily ever after, Laura wonders how losing a partner to death impacts the search for new love. | Support this show at wunc.org/give. Share your stories and questions at datingwhilegray@wunc.org.


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    Intimacy Changes As The Body Ages Mar 18, 2021

    Laura has a special treat for listeners: an introduction to a podcast she thinks you'll really enjoy. It's called Embodied. In this episode, host Anita Rao examines her own anxiety about how intimacy changes as the body ages. | Support these shows at wunc.org/give.


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    The Kids Are Alright Mar 11, 2021

    Parenting and dating are two words we may not be comfortable hearing in the same sentence, even if “little ones” are all grown up. Laura explores how gray daters are juggling personal needs and desires with parental obligations.


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    Dating Across Differences Mar 04, 2021

    Research shows daters 50 and older are more likely than younger ones to say it’s very important that online dating profiles include race and political affiliation. Laura wonders if being too specific about race, religion or politics leads to overlooking some solid romantic options.


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    Money and Romance Feb 25, 2021

    Laura's the first to admit: She'd rather talk with potential romantic partners about any topic other than money. But is she just delaying the inevitable by pushing off conversations about personal finances?


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    Defining Home Sweet Home Feb 18, 2021

    Since her divorce, Laura's happily lived alone with Jade, her Australian Shepherd mix. But she wonders what it might have been like to go through the pandemic sharing space with a housemate.


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    Pandemic Love: Slow, Fast, and Furious Feb 11, 2021

    Laura is admittedly freaked out by dating apps. But she's also curious how other gray daters are connecting during the COVID pandemic. Does being high risk for the virus have to put a limit on love?


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    Season Two Trailer Feb 01, 2021

    Laura Stassi is back for a second season of conversations about romance and relationships after age 50! This time around, the podcast takes on how dating is affected by personal finances, adult kids and of course, finding companionship during the COVID crisis.


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    Sage Advice May 14, 2020

    Laura talks with writer Sophy Burnham, who offers romance insights based on her decades of personal experience. Then Laura gets relationship advice from Leora Hoffman, an attorney-turned- matchmaker who built her business while finding a partner for herself. Listeners phone in with their own advice about love before Laura speaks with marriage and family therapist Katherine Woodward Thomas. Her books "Calling In The One" and "Conscious Uncoupling" help people make romantic connections, or lovingly end them.


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    This is Me Apr 30, 2020

    Laura talks with Rev. Joani Peacock, who made a personal discovery around the time her marriage ended. She's confident in herself — but that doesn't mean it's easier to date. Then Laura sits down with Giselle, who found acceptance only after letting go of a long-held secret. Finally, while we're all social distancing, Laura checks in with Ann, who's found a creative way to be her true self and keep the spark alive in a long-distance romance.


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    Brand New Day Apr 16, 2020

    Laura talks with Maxine, who lived most of her life as a self-described "alpha male" until the day things just clicked. Then Laura sits down with The Naked Truth author Leslie Morgan Steiner. Leslie describes how she reclaimed her sexuality after her gray divorce, and teaches Laura how to open her eyes to the possibilities of making romantic connections. Laura also learns about making connections despite physical distancing from listeners like Robert, who gave virtual speed dating a go.


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    Custom-Built Commitment Apr 02, 2020

    Laura talks with legendary women's college basketball coach Elaine Elliott, whose commitment to her partner endured long after the romance was over. Then, Norm and Jeanne share the story of how they built a solid partnership without mentioning the "C" word. Finally, Laura sits down with public radio icon Diane Rehm, who put her own modern spin on a traditional choice.


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    Money Talk Mar 19, 2020

    Laura talks with Ken, who's reluctant to date after feeling financially burned in his marriage; accountant and financial planner Colette Kolanko, who says we can find creative and loving ways to talk about money with a future partner; and Bob and Marge, who merged their lives without blending bank accounts.


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    The Pursuit of Love Mar 12, 2020

    Laura talks with Evamarie about the discovery that leads her to try online dating; Mark, whose search for love after devastating loss feels more urgent and also, elusive; and Girard, who gains romantic clarity after a health crisis.


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    Sex Talk Mar 05, 2020

    Laura talks with Sandy, who shares how communication set the stage for her second 'first time,' and Dr. Jen Gunter, author of The Vagina Bible, and a leading advocate for communicating about women's sexual health. Then she debunks myths about male sexual health with Dr. Arthur Burnett, a surgeon and scientist whose research led to the development of Viagra. Finally, Laura learns about communication, intimacy and adult toys with Kathryn Ellis, an occupational therapist and sexuality counselor.


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    Things We Do For Love Feb 27, 2020

    Laura talks with Steven, who tries bonding with his partner's vicious dog even as their marriage hits the rocks; Jamie, who offers to share her home with an unlikely housemate; and Jenevieve, who throws practicality aside to summon the online dating spirits.


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    Flying Solo Feb 20, 2020

    Host Laura Stassi talks with New Yorker Dennis, who doesn't want to give up the single life. Maybe he's waiting for the perfect woman to finally become available? Then there's Michele in Washington, D.C. Despite successfully connecting people in her large professional and social circles, she hasn't made a romantic connection for herself. Finally, life coach Amy Schoen says people who want to couple up need to be intentional in thought and actions.


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    Starting All Over Again Feb 13, 2020

    Host Laura Stassi attends her 40th high school reunion, where her former classmates open up about their own love lives and dating strategies. Then, she revisits a man she went on a date with to get schooled on online dating as well as the “three-date” rule. Finally, she gleans inspiration from a couple who met at the apartment building where they both live.


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