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Leaders from both Russia and the West accused each other of not wanting peace in Ukraine. Western leaders, including those in Istanbul, claimed Putin isn't serious about peace. Conversely, some figures argued that Berlin, Paris, Brussels, and especially London also don't genuinely seek peace.
Outcome of Talks in Istanbul:
Talks were brief (about an hour) and largely symbolic.
Most participants seemed to expect little outcome.
Only Russia and Ukraine had formal talks, with additional meetings involving the U.S., U.K., Germany, France, Turkey, and Ukraine.
Marco Rubio (U.S. Secretary of State in this narrative) said only a direct Trump–Putin meeting could lead to progress, despite prior interactions between them.
Russia’s Position:
Russia reiterated demands made in 2022 and June 2023:
Recognition of administrative borders.
Demilitarization.
"Denazification."
No NATO membership for Ukraine.
Russia remains open to conditional ceasefire talks but rejects any unconditional ceasefire.
Ukraine’s Position (Zelensky’s Comments):
Ukraine’s delegation had authority to negotiate, but claims Russia repeated old positions.
Zelensky sees the talks as a performance and reaffirmed past demands:
30-day ceasefire on Ukraine's terms.
No territorial concessions.
Continued military support and security guarantees from the U.S. and Europe.
He publicly appealed to Trump, seeking continued U.S. backing.
U.S. Position and Internal Disarray:
The U.S. appears inconsistent:
Rubio calls for Trump–Putin talks.
Trump claims urgency to end the war, but contradicts Ukraine’s goals (e.g., no NATO or security guarantees).
Western leaders made bold demands (e.g., ceasefire or sanctions) but took no follow-up action, weakening their credibility.
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