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    Daf Yomi for Women – Hadran

    Hadran.org.il is the portal for Daf Yomi studies for women.

    Hadran.org.il is the first and only site where one can hear a daily Talmud class taught by a woman. The classes are taught in Israel by Rabbanit Michelle Cohen Farber, a graduate of Midreshet Lindenbaum’s scholars program with a BA in Talmud and Tanach from Bar-Ilan University. Michelle has taught Talmud and Halacha at Midreshet Lindenbaum, Pelech high school and MATAN. She lives in Ra’anana with her husband and their five children. Each morning the daf yomi class is delivered via ZOOM and then immediately uploaded and available for podcast and download.

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    Bava Batra 158 - Shabbat November 30, 29 Cheshvan Nov 29, 2024
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    If a husband and wife die at around the same time and it is unclear who died first, there is a question regarding various types of property. The wife's heirs claim the husband died first and therefore they should collect her ketuba money, her tzon barzel property, and usufruct (melog) property. In contrast, the husband's heirs do not want to pay the ketuba money and they want to keep her possessions. The husband's heirs claim the wife died first, meaning there is no obligation to pay the ketuba money and all her possessions were inherited by the husband upon her death. Beit Shamai rules that they split the money in half, which Beit Hillel differentiates between the three issues -the ketuba, tzon barzel, and usufruct property. The ruling of Beit Hillel regarding the tzon barzel property is unclear and the amoraim offer different opinions about what he meant.

    If a mother and only son die at around the same time and it is unclear who died first, there is a question about who died first and who inherits the mother's property - his heirs or hers. In this case, Beit Shamai and Beit Hillel agree that they split it equally. However, Rabbi Akiva rules that the money remains where it is. Ben Azai is bothered by the fact that Rabbi Akiva created a debate in the case where both Beit Shamai and Beit Hillel agreed.


    Bava Batra 157 - November 29, 28 Cheshvan Nov 29, 2024
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    If a father and a son die at around the same time and it is unclear who died first and the son did not leave enough money to pay his wife's ketuba or a creditor, the wife/creditor and the father's heirs each bring a different claim. The father's heirs claim the son died first and they inherit all the father's money, leaving the son's estate with nothing to pay the wife/creditor. The wife or creditor claim that the father died first and the son inherited the father's property and his heirs can now pay what is owed. Beit Shamai ruled that they split the disputed property equally. Beit Hillel holds that the money remains in the hands of the father's heirs as ain safek motzi m'yedai vadai, meaning they have a definitive claim as they inherit the father and the creditor's claim is uncertain so we follow what is certain.

    Shmuel asked if one who borrowed money and added into the deed that the land from property that the borrower will acquire in the future is lined to the loan, is that effective even to those who hold that one cannot acquire items that have not yet come into this world? Several sources are brought to attempt to answer the question but each is rejected as either the case details are different or they can each be attributed to Rabbi Meir who holds that one can acquire items that are not in this world.

    A follow-up question is asked regarding one who took one loan and then another and then acquired more land - does one have more of a lien on that property than the other?


    Bava Batra 156 - November 28, 27 Cheshvan Nov 28, 2024
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    This week's learning is sponsored by my parents, Paula and Robert Cohen, in loving memory of my grandmother, Sonja Waschitz, Sara bat Yitzchak z"l, on her third yahrzeit. My grandmother was always optimistic, despite the many challenges she endured, beginning with leaving her parents behind in Vienna to forge a new life in America at age 14 in 1939. She continues to serve as a role model for our entire family.

    Ameimar ruled that children not old enough to sell their inheritance could give it away as a gift. After being questioned by Rav Ashi, he explains the logic behind his ruling by differentiating between a sale and a gift.

    Rav Nachman brings in the name of Shmuel a list of cases where one must check if the person has signs of maturity to see if the action was valid. The Gemara analyzes why he brought each of the cases.

    The Mishna bring the opinion of Rabbi Elazar that one on one's deathbed cannot pass on possessions through words but must do an actual kinyan, act of acquisition. A debate between him and the rabbis regarding a few cases is brought - each one explains the cases in a way that supports their position.

    The Mishna explains a debate between Rabbi Eliezer and Rabbi Yehoshua regarding the differences between whether an act of acquisition is not needed only on Shabbat or is not needed at all. The logic of their positions matches the logic of their argument regarding the concept of zakhin l'adam shelo b'fanav as applying only for a minor or everyone else as well.


    Bava Batra 155 - November 27, 26 Cheshvan Nov 27, 2024
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    Even though the Gemara concluded that Reish Lakish and Rabbi Yochanan hold positions that were originally attributed to each other, the difficulty that Rabbi Yochanan raised against Reish Lakish can still be explained as such and does not need to be reversed.

    At what age can one sell one's father's possessions? There is a debate about whether one can sell at eighteen or twenty. Rabbi Zeira tries to prove from the story in Bnei Brak where they wanted to see if there were signs of maturity on the dead body must prove that the age was eighteen as a Mishna in Nidda 57b states that over age twenty the child can sell even if they show no signs of physical maturity. Therefore, the child must have been eighteen and that explains why they want to check. However, this is rejected as they explain that the Mishna is only true in a case where there are other signs that the twenty-year-old was a saris. In the absence of those signs, they would still need to see if the child shows physical signs of maturity to enable the sale, until the child reaches mid-life, at thirty-six (into the thirty-sixth year).

    Can one sell the property they inherited at the age of seventeen and a day (into the eighteenth year) or nineteen and a day, according to the other opinion? The Gemara explains there is a debate here as well. However, one of the opinions was derived mistakenly from a misunderstanding of a ruling in a case that came before Rava.

    Gidel bar Menashya asked Rava if the sale of a fourteen-year-old girl could be accepted if she showed a clear understanding of business relations. Rava ruled that her sale was valid. The Gemara explains that the details of that case were specifically that age and a girl because that was the situation that came before him, but the same would hold at a younger age (over bar/bat mitzva) and for a boy.

    Rav Huna son of Rabbi Yehushua ruled that even though a child under the age of eighteen/twenty cannot sell inherited property, they can be accepted as witnesses. Mar Zutra limits this to movable property, not land.

    Ameimar ruled that a child can give away inheritance as a gift, even under eighteen/twenty. Rav Ashi questions the logic of this ruling.


    Bava Batra 154 - November 26, 25 Chevshan Nov 26, 2024
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    When a gift document lacks language indicating either a deathbed or healthy status of the giver, and there is a dispute between the giver claiming it was written while dying and the recipients claiming otherwise, who bears the burden of proof? Rabbi Meir holds that we presume the person was healthy until proven otherwise. The rabbis, however, rule that the gift remains with the giver until proven otherwise.

    There are two different approaches to understanding this debate. Some hold that the proof necessary according to each opinion is witnesses who will corroborate the facts, whether the giver was healthy or not when the gift was given. According to that understanding, Rabbi Meir and the rabbis disagree along the same lines as Rabbi Natan and Rabbi Yaakov - do we rely on the present state of the giver or the earlier presumption of ownership over the item? Others hold that the rabbis hold that the gift remains with the given unless the recipients can prove that the document is valid. The debate between Rabbi Meir and the rabbis is whether or not a document where the one who wrote it admits it is a document but raises a problem with its validity needs to be ratified.

    A difficulty is raised against the second understanding, as Rabbi Meir and the rabbi debate this issue elsewhere regarding witnesses who bring a document but raise a doubt on its validity. However, this is resolved as one could have thought to distinguish between a case where witnesses question the validity and where the giver questions the validity.

    Raba holds by the first explanation. When Abaye questioned his understanding, Raba explained the rabbi's position: since the document should have included that the giver was either sick or healthy and included neither, it creates a doubt on each side and therefore the gift remains in the original owner's property until proven otherwise.

    Rabbi Yochanan and Reish Lakish also disagree about whether the debate between Rabbi Meir and the rabbis is about who needs to prove whether the giver was sick or healthy or whether the issue surrounds the ratification of the document. At first, the Gemara explains that Rabbi Yochanan holds the debate is about who needs to prove whether the giver was sick or healthy. He then questions Reish Lakish from a braita about a similar case where they needed to prove the seller's age, that he was not too young to have sold the property, rather than ratifying the document, thus proving that ratification alone would not have been effective. To resolve the difficulty, Reish Lakish explains the details of the case differently, in a way that ratification of the document was irrelevant.

    Reish Lakish brings a Mishna of Bar Kapara to Rabbi Yochanan that implies that a document where the owner admits to having written the document but claims that it is invalid is valid even without ratification. Reish Lakish asks Rabbi Yochanan if this only follows Rabbi Meir's position and not the rabbis, as discussed earlier. Rabbi Yochanan explains that it follows the rabbis' position as well as they both agree on this topic. Two questions are raised against Rabbi Yochanan's answer from sources quoted previously. One is resolved but the second is not. As a result, the entire sugya unravels as Rabbi Zeira explains Rabbi Yochanan's answer in a different manner, that the debate between Rabbi Meir and the rabbis is about ratification of the document and Bar Kapara matches the rabbi's position. This explanation requires switching the positions of Rabbi Meir and the rabbis in both Mishna and the braita quoted previously about the witnesses and switching Rabbi Yochanan and Reish Lakish's explanations of the debate between Rabbi Meir and the rabbis in our Mishna.


    Bava Batra 153 - November 25, 24 Cheshvan Nov 25, 2024
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    Rav and Shmuel disagreed regarding a case where one promised a gift using the phrase "in life and in death." Rav held that this language indicated a deathbed gift, with "in life" being mentioned merely as an expression of hope. Shmuel, however, interpreted it as a gift from a healthy person.

    In Nehardea, they followed Rav's ruling. Later, Rava introduced a distinction: he argued that Rav would agree that using the phrase "from life" (rather than "in life") would be treated as a gift from a healthy person. Ameimar, however, rejected Rava's interpretation of Rav's position.

    When a case of this nature came before Rav Nachman in Nehardea, he sent it to be adjudicated in a different city, not wanting to rule against Shmuel in Shmuel's own city of Nehardea.

    In another instance, Rava ruled against a woman who tried to reclaim her gift, which was consistent with his position (as she had used the phrase "from life and in death"). When she persistently complained about his ruling, Rava arranged for another rabbi to write her the ruling she desired, but instructed him to add a citation at the bottom of the document from Bava Metzia regarding deception, signaling that he was deceiving her and the ruling should not be followed. Upon realizing this subterfuge, the woman cursed Rava that his boat should sink—and indeed, his boat sank.

    When a gift document lacks language indicating either a deathbed or healthy status of the giver, and there is a dispute between the giver claiming it was written while dying and the recipients claiming otherwise, who bears the burden of proof? Rabbi Meir holds that we presume the person was healthy until proven otherwise. The rabbis, however, rule that the money remains with the giver until proven otherwise.

    A case arose involving a deathbed gift that used appropriate deathbed gift language, but the document didn't record that the person had died. After the person's death, the recipients claimed the gift, while the heirs argued that their father had recovered from his illness (thus invalidating the gift) before becoming sick again and dying. Raba ruled in favor of the recipients, reasoning that since the person was now dead, it was likely they died from the original illness, making the gift valid.

    Abaye challenged Raba's ruling by citing the case of a sunken ship: even though we presume the passengers died, we must consider the possibility they survived if their bodies aren't found. Similarly, he argued, we should consider the possibility of recovery, as most sick people do recover. Rav Huna, son of Rav Yehoshua, resolved the difficulty by explaining that Raba was following Rabbi Natan's position.

    Rabbi Natan and Rabbi Yaakov disagreed about a case where the document did not include whether given while healthy or on one's deathbed. Rabbi Yaakov held that we follow the last known presumption of ownership, regardless of current possession. Rabbi Natan ruled that we follow the current presumption - if the person is currently on their deathbed, we assume the gift was given on their deathbed; if healthy, we assume they were healthy at the time the document was written.

    Rabbi Elazar noted that this same dispute between Rabbi Natan and Rabbi Yaakov applies to a case in Mishna Taharot 6:7 regarding ritual impurity. The case involves a valley enclosed by a fence that is defined as a public space in summer (due to heavy foot traffic) but as a private space in winter (due to minimal traffic). When there's a known dead body present but uncertainty about whether someone passed over it, the rule is: doubt in a public space yields ritual purity, while doubt in a private space yields impurity (based on Sotah laws). If it's unknown whether the person was there in summer or winter, Rabbi Yaakov would rule based on the last known presumption of the person, which means they are deemed pure, while Rabbi Natan would rule based on the current season - they would be declared impure if the issue arises in the winter, and pure if it is summer.


    Bava Batra 152 - November 24, 23 Cheshvan Nov 24, 2024
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    This week's learning is sponsored in honor of Elana Storch on her birthday. With love from her kids - Ruth, Ira, Elsa, Julianna, Reuben, Elia, Adele, Emanuel and Arianne. "We are inspired by the example you continue to set for us in your commitment to your learning."

    Rav and Shmuel disagree on a few different situations regarding a gift given on one's deathbed.

    If there was a document in which it states that a gift was given on one's deathbed with an act of acquisition - Rav and Shmuel disagree about whether the kinyan was added to override the laws of one on one's deathbed and only wanted it to be effective with a document, which cannot be given after one's death (Shmuel), or do we assume it was done to strengthen the ownership of the receipt of the gift (Rav)? Rav and Shmuel's position on this issue seems to contradict their opinions in a different case where one says to write and give a document to another and then dies before it is given. The Gemara resolves the contradiction by differentiating between the cases. The contradiction regarding Rav's position is resolved by explaining that there was no act of kinyan in the second case. The contradiction regarding Shmuel's position is resolved by establishing (u'kimta) the second case as one in which the giver was clear about the document's purpose - that it was only to strengthen the recipient's power.

    A second difficulty is raised against Shmuel's position in the first case (there is a concern that the gift was only to be effected with a document, which cannot be done after death) from a ruling of Shmuel regarding one who gave away all of one's possessions with a kinyan, whose gift can be retracted if one gets better, implying that if the person dies, the gift is effective. This too is resolved by establishing the latter ruling in a case where the giver was clear that the kinyan was done to strengthen the recipient's power.

    If one writes to give all one's possessions to one and gives them a document and then does the same to another, does the first one acquire it or the second? Rav and Shmuel disagree as they do in the first case discussed earlier. Why was there a need to say they disagreed in both cases?

    In Pumbedita there was a different version of Shmuel's opinion.


    Bava Batra 151 - Shabbat November 23, 22 Cheshvan Nov 22, 2024
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    What else does the word "possessions" include?

    Some stories are brought of women on their deathbeds who promised their property to one person and then changed their minds and promised it to someone else. The rabbis debated what the ruling should be - if one's word on one's deathbed and as if they were already acquired, is one not able to change one's mind?

    A case is brought of a woman who gave her possessions to her son before her second marriage to prevent them from going to her husband. When she later got divorced, was she able to retrieve her possessions from her son?

    Another case was a woman who would give her orchard to her brother every time she got sick, as she thought she was dying. Each time she got better, the gift would be canceled. One time, at her request, he acquired it in a way that it would be effective even if she lived - he had her leave over a bit and did a kinyan. However, Rav Nachman ruled that since she said she was giving it to him because she thought she would die, once she got better, the kinyan was ineffective.

    The Gemara clarifies the case of a gift on one's deathbed where one only gives away part of one's property. Some understand that the gift is effective even if there was no kinyan and quoted this in the name of Rav Nachman. But Rava corrects them and explains that Rav Nachman holds that the Mishna was referring only to cases where a kinyan was effected, meaning that if one gave away not all of his possessions and then died or got better, if the gift was given without a kinyan, the person would not acquire the possessions. Additionally, if one did do a kinyan and didn't give away all of one's possessions but stated that it was because the person thought they were dying, then if they got better, the gift would be returned to him/her.


    Bava Batra 150 - November 22, 21 Cheshvan Nov 22, 2024
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    Abaye questions Rav Yosef's difficulty with Rav Yehuda and Rav Yirmia's interpretation of the Mishna by showing that sometimes the Mishna uses the word "karka (land)" to include movable items (metaltelin) and "kol shehu (any amount)" can refer to a particular size (larger than just any amount). One Mishna is in Peah 3:8 regarding the language used to free a slave. The other is in Chulin 11:2 regarding the first shearings where "kol shehu" means a particular amount. However, in conclusion, they explain these words in the above-mentioned Mishnayot as exceptions to the rule, and Abaye's difficulty against Rav Yosef is resolved.

    What is the difference between one who says "My metaltelin (movable property)should be given to...," "All my metaltelin (movable property) should be given to...," and "Anything that is metaltel (can be moved) should be given to..."?

    Are slaves considered property (karka) or movable items (metaltelin)? Two sources are brought to prove that they are categorized as movable property, but both suggestions are rejected.

    Five cases are brought where the halakha will only be effective if ALL of one's property is included. Regarding four out of five of these rulings, "all of one's property" includes movable and non-movable items, meaning that even if one were to leave out some movable items, the halakha would not be in effect. The one case where it does not include movable items is a woman who forfeits the right to collect her ketuba if all of the property is divided between her and the sons. If movable items were not divided, we can still assume she forfeited her right to collect the ketuba, as a ketuba can only be collected from land.

    If one gives away all of one's "nechasim (possessions)," what items does that word include?


    Bava Batra 149 - November 21, 20 Cheshvan Nov 21, 2024
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    Study Guide Bava Batra 149

    What language must be used for a gift stated on one's deathbed to be valid?

    If one sells all of one's property on one's deathbed, is it a valid sale if one recovers from one's illness?

    If one admits on one's deathbed that one owes money, do we believe the admission or is it possible the person is lying and just wants to show they don't have a lot of money? A story is brought with Issur the convert and how he was able to use this (an admission) as a solution to passing on his money that was in Rava's possession (as Rava was watching it for him) to his son, who was conceived before his conversion and therefore was unable to inherit the money.

    The Mishna says the gift is valid if one divides up one's possessions on one's deathbed but leaves over land of any amount, and then recovers. Rav Yehuda says in the name of Rav that "any amount" actually means an amount worthy of sustaining him/her. Rav Yirmiya bar Abba says that even if one leaves movable items worthy of sustaining the person. Rav Zeira supports their opinions and Rav Yosef questions them based on the wording in the Mishna ("land" and "any amount"). Abaye supports Rabbi Zeira from a Mishna in Peah where land includes movable items.


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