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    Dad Saves America

    Proud papa, filmmaker, entrepreneur, and arm-chair philosopher John Papola explores the biggest issues facing our country through the lens of fatherhood, releasing exclusive interviews and deep dives every week. We need to make sure the next generation of Americans is raised to thrive in a free society and be champions of civilization.

    Dad Saves America has hosted all sorts of experts in the studio, including Jonathan Haidt, Dr. Drew, Michael Shellenberger, Bret Weinstein, Vivek Ramaswamy, and Adam Carolla.

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    Antony Davies on Cost of Living, University Corruption, and the AI Future Jul 10, 2025
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    I sat down with economist Antony Davies to discuss what’s right and wrong about our economy. Most Americans live materially wealthier lives than most other humans alive today, never mind in centuries past. However, young people are experiencing very real distress, with rising rates of serious mental illness. Is housing affordability the main problem? Are universities to blame? Antony shares his perspective on income inequality, the perverse incentives of government intervention, and how AI will change our society.

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    Read Antony’s essay on having more kids: https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2021/02/74203/

    Follow Antony on X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/antonydavies

    Check out Antony’s YouTube channel: https://youtube.com/@antonydavies?si=PcKJwFabQPgAICPx

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    Outline: [0:00] The case for global economic optimism

    [7:35] What’s holding back American prosperity?

    [17:38] Why can’t we balance the federal budget?

    [21:54] Why is the middle class suffering?

    [34:06] Lessons from raising 6 kids

    [39:09] What’s going on with housing markets?

    [46:03] Medians, averages, and income inequality

    [54:56] Are young people right to resent “the system”?

    [1:05:10] How government subsidies ruined higher education

    [1:13:37] University DEI is about money, not ideology

    [1:18:35] Excessive safety nets create toxic dependence

    [1:27:17] What’s the point of freedom?

    [1:34:34] Will AI prove Marx right in the end?

    [1:43:21] Trying to understand Trump as a libertarian

    [1:50:44] Don’t believe the civics mythology

    [1:57:55] Humanity, creativity, and faith

    [2:08:43] Why we should have more kids

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    Why AI Should Challenge Us, Not Just Serve Us - Jeanne Lim Jul 04, 2025
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    I sat down with Jeanne Lim, co-founder and CEO of beingAI, to explore the future of human-AI relationships. Jeanne traces her journey from launching Sophia the Robot at Hanson Robotics to creating AI beings designed to engage in deep, Socratic dialogue rather than simply serve as obedient productivity assistants. We discuss her beliefs about consciousness, free will, wisdom, and spirituality, and how these ideas will shape the development of AI.

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    Learn more about Sophia the Robot: https://www.hansonrobotics.com/sophia/

    Learn more about beingAI: https://beingai.com/about/

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    Outline:

    [0:00] What is an “AI being”?

    [7:01] Creating “Sophia” at Hanson Robotics

    [15:47] Neural nets and large language models

    [20:17] Designing AI psychology

    [26:59] Who’s getting replaced by AI?

    [36:41] Critical thinking, wisdom, and consciousness

    [46:33] Free will vs determinism

    [52:02] Oneness, individuality, and diversity

    [55:20] Is AI just a consensus machine?

    [1:01:34] Can AI act as individuals?

    [1:06:49] Virtual worlds may be the key to AGI

    [1:14:13] Reasons for optimism about AI

    [1:21:48] Can we avoid centralization of AI?

    [1:25:40] Advice for young people facing an AI future

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    Adam Coleman on Growing Up Fatherless and Rejecting Toxic Racial Politics Jun 26, 2025
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    I sat down with author and journalist Adam Coleman to discuss his experience with America’s fatherlessness crisis, his recent return to Christianity, and how victimhood and identity politics have sabotaged many black Americans. In Adam’s new book, “The Children We Left Behind,” he shares his personal struggle with abandonment, offering a window into the intense emotional scars left by absent fathers and fractured communities. You may also know Adam as a regular contributing writer on our Substack, so it was great to finally sit down together here in the studio.

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    Purchase a copy of “The Children We Left Behind”: https://www.amazon.com/Children-Left-Behind-Rationalizes-Separation/dp/B0DSJZWMDL

    Follow Adam on X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/wrong_speak

    Read Adam’s work on Substack: https://substack.com/@adambcoleman

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    Outline:

    [0:00] America’s children are being neglected

    [7:55] Isn’t overprotection the real problem?

    [13:31] Adam’s early childhood trauma

    [20:30] Attachment is everything

    [26:27] How do you break the cycle?

    [31:31] Parenting an young adult

    [39:39] We need more good propaganda

    [47:28] Toxic victimhood and racial politics

    [53:03] What killed the DEI machine?

    [59:27] Is political diversity the future for black voters?

    [1:13:06] Real solidarity is within communities, not races

    [1:18:41] How illegal immigration decided the 2024 election

    [1:33:46] Why can’t the Democrats pivot away from bad policy?

    [1:44:26] Strong faith builds strong families

    [1:49:04] Why Adam believes that Christianity is true

    [2:01:43] God, love, and relationships

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    Emily Austin on Israel, Gender Ideology and The New Right Jun 19, 2025
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    I sat down with sports journalist, author and influencer Emily Austin to talk about what’s really going on in Gen Z culture, from failing relationships and collapsing masculinity to growing antisemitism, career confusion, and the influencer illusion. Emily pulls no punches on what it means to be a woman in today's media landscape, why so many young men are losing themselves to grifters, and how she’s stayed grounded through it all.

    She shares her path from premed dropout to court-side interviewer to Middle East advocate and why she refuses to lie for clicks. If you care about truth, resilience, and raising a generation that can stand up and speak out, you don’t want to miss this.

    Follow Emily on X: https://x.com/emilyraustin

    Outline:

    [0:00] Emily Austin on Her Future in Politics

    [2:13] Why Gen Z Is Struggling to Launch

    [6:22] Toxic dating culture and the Andrew Tate effect

    [15:13] What MeToo got right and terribly wrong

    [18:32] Why Gen Z women are waking up politically

    [25:43] Hollywood’s credibility crisis

    [30:47] The making of an honest influencer

    [38:37] The personal cost of speaking the truth

    [43:18] Israel, propaganda, and the real cost of silence

    [50:17] What Americans need to understand about Hamas

    [56:38] Gaza, Trump, and the future of the Middle East

    [1:04:01] Trump’s Personality Fits the New York Mentality

    [1:09:05] Why Gen Z Can’t Afford to Buy Homes

    [1:12:17] Gender ideology and women’s sports

    [1:20:57] Advice for girls struggling with identity and self worth

    [1:25:18] What Emily wants her legacy to be

    Watch the video version on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpbmQwCEUNY

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    Marcel Van Hattem Exposes Brazil's Corrupt Deep State and Censorship Agenda Jun 12, 2025
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    I sat down with Brazilian congressman Marcel Van Hattem to talk about the growing censorship crisis in Brazil, political persecution under the Lula regime, and how the United States might be playing a disturbing role behind the scenes. Marcel explains how social media censorship, mass arrests after Brazil’s January 8th riots, and judicial overreach are silencing political opposition and threatening democracy. He also shares the shocking case of Felipe Martins, an innocent man imprisoned based on falsified travel records allegedly altered by U.S. officials and why Americans need to pay attention before it’s too late.

    Follow Marcel on X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/marcelvanhattem

    Outline:

    [0:00] Welcome Marcel Van Hattem & Brazil’s Censorship Crisis

    [4:38] Lula vs. Bolsonaro: Supreme Court & Media Spin

    [6:24] Operation Car Wash & Lula’s Return

    [12:28] January 8th: Brazil’s “January 6” Moment

    [15:52] Political Prisoners & Mass Arrests

    [18:19] Brazil’s Legal Protections vs. Censorship

    [19:25] How Brazil’s Media Spun January 8th Against Bolsonaro

    [24:00] How USAID Backs Censorship in Brazil

    [29:27] Felipe Martins Case & Falsified Evidence

    [40:30] International Coordination & Free Speech Threats

    [53:26] Final Message — Defend Free Speech

    Watch the video version on YouTube: https://youtu.be/gWs9FSHr7NU?si=mVzs88iI9GMTv-GK

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    Daniel Di Martino on Socialism, Immigration, and How Hugo Chávez Destroyed Venezuela Jun 05, 2025
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    I sat down with Daniel Di Martino, economist and founder of the Dissident Project, to talk about how socialism destroyed Venezuela—his home country—and what Americans need to understand before making the same mistake. He explains what life was really like under Hugo Chávez and Nicolás Maduro, from brutal inflation and collapsing public utilities to the psychological toll of losing hope in your country. After arriving in the U.S. in 2016, Daniel studied economics with a focus on immigration and now speaks to high school students about the dangers of socialist policies and the value of economic freedom.

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    Follow Daniel on X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/DanielDiMartino

    Learn more about the Dissident Project: https://www.dissidentproject.org/

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    Outline:

    [0:00] Why do our kids love communism?

    [7:16] How did Venezuela become poor and socialist?

    [16:14] Debunking left-wing lies about Venezuela

    [27:08] Marxism is imperialist, not anti-colonial

    [32:11] Even a benevolent communist dictator would fail

    [35:12] How bad is the economic crisis in Venezuela?

    [40:09] Is Javier Milei succeeding in Argentina?

    [47:23] No, communism isn’t good “in theory”

    [55:49] Is America to blame for the migrant crisis?

    [1:03:27] Which immigrants should we let in?

    [1:12:43] How to stop illegal immigration

    [1:15:31] Why young men are shifting to the right

    [1:19:22] Is Trump-style rhetoric bad for our society?

    [1:26:21] Don’t silence yourself for grades or fake friends

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    WWE’s Kane on Liberty, Wrestling, and Life as a Mayor May 29, 2025
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    I sat down with Glenn Jacobs—better known to millions as former pro wrestler Kane—to explore his transformation from WWE superstar to liberty-minded mayor of Knox County, Tennessee. Glenn explains how backstage politics in pro wrestling compare to the “kayfabe” of American politics, where performance often masks the real alliances and centers of power. We talk about his philosophical journey from political nomad to principled “conservatarian,” his belief in the necessity of masculinity, and his mission to limit government, protect liberty, and hold back the tide of cultural Marxism.

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    Follow Glenn on X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/GlennJacobsTN

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    Outline:

    [0:00] What does wrestling have to do with politics?

    [8:40] Why Glenn believes in liberty

    [15:51] The blindspots of libertarians

    [20:00] How Glenn got involved in politics

    [28:30] “Toxic masculinity” and gender roles

    [37:22] Is DEI in retreat?

    [40:56] Glenn’s experience as mayor

    [50:49] Local politics matters more than you think

    [1:00:02] BLM and policing

    [1:04:45] The Biden administration was MIA

    [1:08:49] What is the future of government?

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    Mike Rowe Reveals the Truth About Reality TV, Masculinity, and Gratitude May 22, 2025
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    I sat down with “Dirty Jobs” host Mike Rowe to explore his philosophy of honest storytelling and hard work. In today’s social media-driven culture, reality TV and broadcast journalism cling to a pretense of truth that few actually believe in anymore, but Mike is committed to taking his own path. He reflects on the lessons he’s learned alongside tradespeople doing essential jobs that we take for granted. Mike digs deep into the meaning of masculinity, adulthood, and gratitude—and why these concepts are key to a life well lived.

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    Check out Mike’s YouTube channel: https://youtube.com/@therealmikerowe?si=mG6pqthVglMQcwTP

    Follow Mike on X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/mikeroweworks

    Learn more about the mikeroweWORKS Foundation: https://mikeroweworks.org/

    Learn more about SkillsUSA: https://www.skillsusa.org/

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    Outline:

    [0:00] Authenticity, reality TV, and “Dirty Jobs”

    [19:35] Giving a voice to ‘flyover country’ Americans

    [25:25] How the illusion of broadcast journalism broke

    [31:54] The rural VS urban divide in American life

    [46:40] Is resource abundance turning us weak?

    [58:48] Eating meat comes with a responsibility

    [1:06:21] Why Mike emphasizes gratitude so much

    [1:25:06] What does it mean to be an adult?

    [1:34:52] What does it mean to be a man?

    [1:48:47] Humans aren’t built for comfort

    [1:57:40] Learn to love the uncertainty of life

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    Why You Should Let Your Kids Take Risks - Lenore Skenazy May 15, 2025
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    I sat down with Lenore Skenazy, founder of the ‘free-range kids’ movement, to explore how fear-based parenting is holding our children back. Once dubbed “The World’s Worst Mom” for letting her 9-year-old ride the New York City subway alone, Lenore has since become a powerful voice challenging the culture of overprotection and anxiety that dominates American parenting. She explains how safetyism, media sensationalism, and misguided laws have created a generation of kids who are less confident, less capable, and more dependent than ever before. Lenore is also the co-founder of Let Grow, an organization dedicated to making it “easy, normal, and legal” to get kids out into the world.

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    Follow Lenore on X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/FreeRangeKids

    Learn more about Let Grow: https://letgrow.org/?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=12566296070&gbraid=0AAAAACiZd3IWxylN25lbtWazgN-I9BMWb&gclid=Cj0KCQjwoZbBBhDCARIsAOqMEZXmIfShjY9u4V6kj3Z9BCi7HiM5WBNdeXKwydzyDSMxpAXmzKJ5vfcaAtRPEALw_wcB

    “Off the Rails” mini-doc: https://youtu.be/bxPPJVbygzs

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    Outline:

    [0:00] The World’s Worst Mom

    [10:16] How the “news” made parents afraid

    [20:06] Expert culture overcomplicated parenting

    [24:59] “Law and Order” isn’t real life

    [30:38] We need action leaders, not thought leaders

    [38:47] Parental anxiety is a societal mental illness

    [45:47] How “Let Grow” became a clinical treatment

    [57:40] Kids need to learn not to outsource their discomfort

    [1:05:20] The creative process, hero’s journey, and freedom

    [1:13:05] How the government makes the problem worse

    [1:27:10] Did wealth and progressivism ruin childhood?

    [1:37:56] Will the collapse of experts reset parenting?

    [1:42:03] Phone surveillance eliminates trust building

    [1:49:36] The tide might be turning

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    Meritocracy Isn’t Racist. Lowering Standards Is. - Heather Mac Donald May 08, 2025
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    I sat down with Heather Mac Donald, Manhattan Institute fellow and author of “The Diversity Delusion,” to discuss how the ideology of racial victimhood is undermining American meritocracy and Western civilization itself. Heather makes a blunt case against racial preferences, DEI bureaucracies, and the soft bigotry of lowered expectations, arguing that seemingly well-intentioned affirmative action policies are not just unfair, but entirely counterproductive. We also explore the left’s anti-Western obsession, the oversimplification of American racial discourse, and why she’s still fighting for the values that made the West great.

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    Follow Heather on X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/HMDatMI

    Check out Heather’s work at the Manhattan Institute: https://manhattan.institute/person/heather-mac-donald

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    Outline:

    [0:00] Gaining ground in the culture war

    [3:22] Meritocracy vs “disparate impact”

    [15:09] How widespread is woke racism?

    [22:00] Is America the least racist country?

    [30:31] Can we even out “privilege”?

    [39:41] What is “merit” in practice?

    [45:25] White vs black isn’t the whole story

    [53:11] Gender disparity isn’t discrimination

    [1:06:16] Was American slavery unique?

    [1:12:57] High standards are empowering

    [1:28:21] Are reactionary forces a real danger?

    [1:36:56] The West is uniquely self-critical

    [1:47:30] Can we preserve cultural diversity?

    [1:55:27] Is Trump the right man for the job?

    [2:04:18] Immigration in Europe vs America

    [2:17:24] What is “American culture”

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