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    CONFLICTED

    An ex-Al Qaeda jihadi turned MI6 spy and a former monk turned filmmaker, have been embedded at the heart of conflicts in the Middle East. Together Aimen Dean and Thomas Small unpack the realities of war, fundamentalism and their global implications through first-hand experience.

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    Why Freedom Failed in Syria Apr 02, 2026
    Show notes

    In this Conflicted Conversation, Thomas speaks to journalist and author Anand Gopal about his wonderful new book Days of Love and Rage, a profoundly moving and intellectually stimulating history of the Syrian revolution told from the perspective of the northern town of Manbij.

    Anand and Thomas discuss:

    • Anand's first-hand witnessing of 9/11
    • How Anand embedded with the Taliban
    • Revolution as a crisis of faith and collapse of social reality
    • Manbij as a microcosm of the tensions of Syrian modernity
    • The failure of Manbij's democratic experiment and the limits of liberalism
    • How ISIS exploited both material grievances and liberal norms
    • Baathism: egalitarian ethos vs authoritarian reality

    Find Gopal on X: https://x.com/Anand_Gopal

    Join the Conflicted Community here: ⁠https://conflicted.supportingcast.fm⁠


    Find Conflicted on X: ⁠https://x.com/MHconflicted⁠

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    Conflicted is a Message Heard production.

    Executive Producers: Jake Warren & Max Warren.

    This episode was produced by Thomas Small and edited by Lizzy Andrews.

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    IRGC Sleeper Cells: The Inside Story Mar 31, 2026
    Show notes

    As all sides in the Iran War escalate their attacks, another spectre looms on the horizon: Iran-backed sleeper cell agents across the world launching terrorist attacks against strategic assets — including in the West. Aimen opens the lid on this little-known dimension of the IRGC's activity.

    Aimen and Thomas discuss:

    • How the U.S. will deal with the problem of Bandar Abbas before launching an amphibious assault on islands in the Gulf
    • The recent escalation: the Houthis join the war, an AWACS plane destroyed in Saudi Arabia, a desalination plant attacked in Kuwait
    • The history of the sleeper cell as a tool of revolutionary subversion
    • The five types of Iranian sleeper cell
    • Aimen's experience embedded in sleeper cells as a double agent
    • How Iranian sleeper cells launder money
    • The prevalence of sleeper cells in South America
    • Aimen's work investigating the finances of sleeper cells
    • How London restaurants are secret IRGC fronts

    Join the Conflicted Community here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://conflicted.supportingcast.fm/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


    Find us on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/MHconflicted⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    And Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/MHconflicted⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    And Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/conflictedpod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    Conflicted is a Message Heard production.

    Executive Producers: Jake Warren & Max Warren.

    Produced and edited by Thomas Small.

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    Can Lebanon Ever Be Free of Hezbollah? Mar 27, 2026
    Show notes

    Aimen's back after a few days away uncovering the secret info and true motivations behind the Iran War.

    Today he and Thomas focus on the Lebanon front in the war, telling the story of how the Lebanese state was progressively undermined over several decades, as non-state actors acted like a cancer on the body politic — with the largest tumour being, of course, Hezbollah.

    Aimen and Thomas discuss:

    • The method behind the madness of Pres. Trump's chaotic messaging.
    • The likelihood of a U.S. assault on Iran's islands in the Gulf.
    • Whether Gulf leaders are really egging the U.S. on to bring an end to the regime.
    • The U.S.'s objective of 'regime destruction' and how that differs from 'regime change'.
    • The failure of energy traders to price risk properly.
    • Abdul Malik al-Houthi's speech on 26 March and what it reveals about his intentions
    • The long history of Lebanon's experience of militant non-state actors and foreign intervention
    • How Hezbollah was able to re-arm and re-build after the catastrophe of autumn 2024.
    • How deep corruption within the Lebanese government and military is preventing the state from disbanding Hezbollah.
    • What to think about all those seasoned analysts who are convinced that America will lose this war.

    Join the Conflicted Community here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://conflicted.supportingcast.fm/⁠⁠⁠⁠


    Find us on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/MHconflicted⁠⁠⁠⁠

    And Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/MHconflicted⁠⁠⁠⁠

    And Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/conflictedpod⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    Conflicted is a Message Heard production.

    Executive Producers: Jake Warren & Max Warren.

    Produced and edited by Thomas Small.

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    When Will Iran Play the Houthi Card? Mar 24, 2026
    Show notes

    Aimen has been called away for important last-minute insider meetings, so sitting in for him on today's episode is Nadwa Al-Dawsari, veteran researcher, conflict analyst, and policy advisor with 20 years of field experience in Yemen and the broader Middle East.

    Nadwa and Thomas discuss:

    • How Yemeni tribalism really works
    • The IRGC agents who are in control of Houthi war policy
    • Houthi eschatological beliefs
    • When the Houthis are likely to join the Iran War in force
    • What the military capabilities of the Houthis really are
    • The long shadow of the Stockholm Agreement
    • Houthi techniques of indoctrination and control
    • The growing Houthi presence in the Horn of Africa
    • How the Houthis and Al Qaeda are now effectively allies
    • Why Western decision-makers get the Middle East so disastrously wrong

    Join the Conflicted Community here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://conflicted.supportingcast.fm/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


    Find Nadwa on X: ⁠⁠https://x.com/Ndawsari⁠⁠


    Find us on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/MHconflicted⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    And Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/MHconflicted⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    And Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/conflictedpod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    Conflicted is a Message Heard production.

    Executive Producers: Jake Warren & Max Warren.

    Produced and edited by Thomas Small.

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    Capitalism Is Not What You Think Mar 19, 2026
    Show notes

    In this Conflicted Conversation, Thomas speaks to Harvard professor Sven Beckert about his new book Capitalism: A Global History.

    Sven explains:

    • Why the history of capitalism matters for understanding the present
    • How most histories of capitalism are too Eurocentric
    • How merchant communities in the medieval Muslim world and other regions laid the foundations of capitalism
    • How European merchants learned from and interacted with merchants in the Muslim world
    • Trust networks in global trade, including family, religious, and city-based merchant networks
    • How capitalism and state power grew together
    • European divergence: why Europe became central to capitalism
    • Effects of Ottoman control and European geopolitical weakness on Atlantic expansion
    • Role of conquest, slavery, and colonial expansion in building capitalist societies
    • Tension between capitalism’s drive for unlimited growth and nature’s limits
    • Challenges to neoliberalism from the left and the populist right

    Find Sven on Bluesky: @svenbeckert.bsky.social

    Visit Sven’s personal website: svenbeckert.com


    Join the Conflicted Community here: https://conflicted.supportingcast.fm


    Find Conflicted on X: https://x.com/MHconflicted

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    And YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sdlF1mY5t4

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    Conflicted is a Message Heard production.

    Executive Producers: Jake Warren & Max Warren.

    This episode was produced and edited by Thomas Small.

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    The Strait of Hormuz and Kharg Island: How America Intends to Win This War Mar 17, 2026
    Show notes

    All eyes are on the Strait of Hormuz and Kharg Island as the United States and its allies struggle to wrest full control of the Arabo-Persian Gulf from the Islamic Republic of Iran.

    Aimen and Thomas lay out the whole story of this geostrategically vital region, from ancient times all the way up to this very morning—explaining why this war is happening, and how it is almost certainly to end.

    Aimen and Thomas discuss:

    • How the Strait of Hormuz caused Noah's Flood
    • The medieval Kingdom of Hormuz
    • How the Gulf is always caught up in the Iranian plateau's endless boom-and-bust political cycle
    • How Europeans staked a claim on Hormuz in 1507—and never really left
    • The fact that the U.S. did indeed go into this war with a plan for Hormuz
    • How the U.S. will take Kharg Island—and what they will do with it
    • The ingenuity of Gulf Arab leadership in planning workarounds for the eventuality of the Strait being closed
    • How European powers and other allies are really contributing to the war effort

    Join the Conflicted Community here: ⁠⁠⁠https://conflicted.supportingcast.fm/⁠⁠⁠


    Find us on X: ⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/MHconflicted⁠⁠⁠

    And Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/MHconflicted⁠⁠⁠

    And Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/conflictedpod⁠⁠⁠

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    Conflicted is a Message Heard production.

    Executive Producers: Jake Warren & Max Warren.

    Produced and edited by Thomas Small.

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    Iran: The Long Road to War Mar 12, 2026
    Show notes

    In this Conflicted Conversation, Thomas speaks with Ali Ansari, Professor of Modern Middle East History at the University of St Andrews.

    Prof. Ansari discusses:

    • The depth and antiquity of Iranian culture
    • His childhood experiences inside the Shah's inner circle
    • The Shah's biggest mistake
    • How the revolution could have better built upon what it inherited
    • The huge incompetence and corruption that has undermined Iran's political economy
    • How the new Supreme Leader is the IRGC's man
    • The clarity of America's military aims alongside the opacity of its political aims
    • The real weaknesses of the Iran Nuclear Deal
    • How Iranians inside Iran feel about the regime and the war

    Follow Prof. Ansari on X: ⁠https://x.com/aa51_ansari


    Join the Conflicted Community here: ⁠https://conflicted.supportingcast.fm ⁠


    Find Conflicted on X: ⁠https://x.com/MHconflicted⁠

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    And Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/conflictedpod⁠

    And YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sdlF1mY5t4⁠

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    Conflicted is a Message Heard production.

    Executive Producers: Jake Warren & Max Warren.

    This episode was produced and edited by Thomas Small.

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    Who is Iran's New Supreme Leader and What Does He Believe? Mar 10, 2026
    Show notes

    Iran has chosen its new Supreme Leader: Mojtaba Khamenei, son of the recently assassinated Ayatollah Khamenei. Who is he? What does he believe? And most importantly, is his coming to power the fulfilment of ancient prophecy?

    Aimen and Thomas discuss:

    • Mojtaba's youth and his experience fighting in the Iran-Iraq War as a 17 year old
    • How he became his father's primary gatekeeper, and how he used this to amass great power and wealth
    • Mojtaba's self-belief: that he is "the Khorasani", a long-expected End Times figure in Shia eschatology
    • The long story of Islamic apocalypticism and how the Islamic Republic has used medieval prophecies to justify its ambitions

    Join the Conflicted Community here: ⁠⁠https://conflicted.supportingcast.fm/⁠⁠


    Find us on X: ⁠⁠https://x.com/MHconflicted⁠⁠

    And Facebook: ⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/MHconflicted⁠⁠

    And Instagram: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/conflictedpod⁠⁠

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit ⁠⁠megaphone.fm/adchoices⁠⁠


    Conflicted is a Message Heard production.

    Executive Producers: Jake Warren & Max Warren.

    Produced and edited by Thomas Small.

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    The Iran War: British Uncertainty vs. French Resolve Mar 05, 2026
    Show notes

    In this Conflicted Conversation, Thomas speaks to two friends of the show about how Europe is responding to the war with Iran. In the first half, the Rt Hon Tom Tugendhat MP — former chair of the UK Foreign Affairs Select Committee and former UK Security Minister — discusses Britain’s confused response to the conflict, and in the second half, French journalist Wassim Nasr explains France’s position.

    Sir Tom and Wassim explain:

    • The UK government’s uncertain response to the Iran war
    • What politicians mean when they talk about the ‘legal basis’ for military action
    • The lessons of the Iraq War and whether they are being misunderstood
    • Iran’s role in the insurgency against Western forces in Iraq
    • The debate over designating the IRGC as a terrorist organization in the UK
    • The state of the British military after decades of defence cuts
    • The strategic controversy surrounding Diego Garcia and the Chagos Islands
    • France’s historic Arab Policy and its effort to maintain strategic independence in the Middle East
    • France’s military agreements with the UAE, Qatar, and Kuwait
    • The E3 framework (France, Germany, UK) and its role in negotiations with Iran
    • Macron’s attempt to expand France’s nuclear deterrent to cover Europe
    • The evolving situation in Lebanon and Hezbollah’s weakening position
    • Intelligence cooperation between France, Israel, and regional partners
    • Whether Europe is entering a new era of strategic independence

    Follow Sir Tom on X: https://x.com/TomTugendhat

    Follow Wassim on X: https://x.com/SimNasr


    Join the Conflicted Community here: https://conflicted.supportingcast.fm


    Find Conflicted on X: https://x.com/MHconflicted

    And Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MHconflicted

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    And YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sdlF1mY5t4

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    Conflicted is a Message Heard production.

    Executive Producers: Jake Warren & Max Warren.

    This episode was produced and edited by Thomas Small.

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    The Death of Ayatollah Khamenei & The Future of Iran Mar 03, 2026
    Show notes

    With missiles streaking across Middle Eastern skies and the assassination of Iran’s Supreme Leader sending shockwaves through the region, Aimen joins Thomas from a Dubai under fire to unpack a historic turning point.

    They discuss:

    • Iran’s unprecedented drone and missile strikes across the GCC and Israel
    • Life under bombardment in Dubai and the regional military response
    • The assassination of Ayatollah Khamenei and what it means for Iran’s future
    • Whether this war marks the death of the 1979 Islamic Revolution
    • The internal dynamics of the Iranian regime at this critical moment
    • The United States’ strategic calculus and the question of escalation

    Join the Conflicted Community here: ⁠https://conflicted.supportingcast.fm/⁠


    Find us on X: ⁠https://x.com/MHconflicted⁠

    And Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/MHconflicted⁠

    And Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/conflictedpod⁠

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit ⁠megaphone.fm/adchoices⁠


    Conflicted is a Message Heard production.

    Executive Producers: Jake Warren & Max Warren.

    Produced and edited by Thomas Small.

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