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    Conan Neutron’s Protonic Reversal

    The finest interview/discussion show on music and musicians that mean a whole hell of a lot to certain people. Why we do what we do?, Rocker ennui, amusing anecdotes, process and context

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    Ep099: Rick Sims (Didjits, Gaza Strippers) Sep 07, 2017
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    Yes, yes! It's true, Conan and Josh talk to the one and only Rick Sims of the mighty Didjits. It's in the second hour, so strap in for some first rate entertainment or music or get that fast forward button ready. -Just Fred (the record and the dude) -The Cassette Revival -The Killer + Tony Clifton -Time Bomb Tom -Touch & Go 25 -Didjits Reunion(s) -Solos and quick hooks. -The Gaza Strippers as a 4 course meal -Writing Songs for the Supersuckers Record -The Lee Harvey Oswald Band are assholes. -Rey Wesham -The Offspring -Sound Design for Theatre Songs played: Fred Schneider - Whip Didjits - (Mama Had A) Skull Baby Didjits - Max Wedge Piper - Who's Your Boyfriend Mr. Bungle - The Stroke Lee Harvey Oswald Band - Surrender Earthlings Didjits - Under the Christmas Fish Didjits - Plate in My Head Supersuckers - Born with a Tail Fred Schneider - Bulldozer Shellac - The End of Radio (Closing Theme)


    Ep098: Eugene Robinson (Oxbow, Sal Mineo, Whipping Boy) Aug 21, 2017
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    What if Yella from NWA sang the hit of Yellow the band (of "Oh YEAAAAAAH!" fame), that and a few other things before Conan and Josh dive right into the remarkable Eugene Robinson and his many bands, projects, sojourns and creative exploits. Eugene conducts himself with alacrity and poise and a good time is had by all! -The origins of Sal Mineo (The band) -Making art worth a good God damn -spending 12 hours in France and playing a show -not playing where you oughtn't -Advocating the encyclopedia of the voice. -Singing what your soul calls out -Old HC fellas that don't really "get" Oxbow. -Charating a musical course with no reference points -Shit talkers being good people to have around / speaking honestly -Getting hit on by one's idols. -the equivalent of automatic writing. -martial arts. -"Hey Frenchy, put the chainsaw down" - Compartmentalizing "Fight" -Writers vs. People who can write. -To Arms, two legs and the magic of subtlety. -Whatever happened to Dukowski -Cross-Cultural experience vs cross-class experience. -Where the stories come from Songs played: Oxbow - Clean Well-Lit Place Xiu Xiu - Sharp Dressed Man Sal Mineo - the Primary Bell Black Face - I Want to Kill You Oxbow - The Finished Line Shellac - The End of Radio (Closing Theme)


    Ep097: Mike Blaha (The Blind Shake, BLAHA, Shadow in the Cracks) Aug 17, 2017
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    On this episode, Conan and Josh have a chat with Mike Blaha of the Blind Shake and countless variations thereupon! Topics include, but are not limited to: -collaborations and being open -subbing in bands mid-tour -Blind Shake vs. solo writing -air-drumming auditions -Chipotle! -the Blaha health regimen -surfin' with John Reis -working through new songs on the road -"Play 'Hurrican!'" -acoustic vs. electric -"I watch Netflix as much as the next guy" -expressing more emotion -attempting to book a show before this podcast ends -living in small boxes -joining Castle Face Records without changing the band's sound -the equal desire for safety and adventure -keeping ears open to young bands -Iowa -the conceptual Blind Shake Then Mike had to go load out for his solo show, so we ended up talking not exactly about Twin Peaks (although there are a few spoilers if you haven't watched through episode 8 yet) but more about fandom and experiencing it real-time.


    Ep096: J. Robbins (Jawbox, Burning Airlines, Channels) Aug 03, 2017
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    Conan and Josh kick off the show with a brief discussion of big shows from the past weekend, then have a great chat with J. Robbins! Topics include: The songwriting process: -Bendy guitar loop overdubs -Reviving/rewriting old songs and playing acoustic shows -Shading confessional songwriting -The integrity of a band and its members vs. being the sole songwriter -Going out on a musical limb -Collaborative projects -Using the studio as a compositional tool Stories of various recording projects: -Roomrunner -The great moment when a recording project sounds like a record -the Dismemberment Plan -What a producer's role is and/or what it should be -the Monorchid -Shiner -Hand-editing 2-inch tape -Coliseum The grand story of his brief time playing with Scream: -"J., EVERYBODY knows 'Ballroom Blitz.'" Jawbox's influence, and how influence works in general: -Creating your own culture We almost entirely avoided discussing politics! Music played: Jawbox - FF=66 J. Robbins - Our Own Devices Jawbox - Won't Come Off Shellac - End of Radio (Closing Theme)


    Ep095: Brian Pennington (Lardo, Megamaul, Radiant Republic) Jul 21, 2017
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    [caption id="attachment_629" align="alignnone" width="300"] Ep095: Brian Pennington (Lardo, Megamaul, Radiant Republic)[/caption] (stream and download - Episode 95) on striking a chord with Lardo beyond friend rock, the intergal usage of the Bit Commander pedal to the Lardo "sound", playing with the murderer's row of bands at All Tomorrow's Impeachments, why Lardo is really 70s dumb riff rock (seriously?!), motivation and inspiration, what record labels mean in 2017 and so much more. Interview starts at 16:00 or so. Music played: Arcwelder - What Did You Call It That For? Lardo - Nothing Lardo - Watch Him (Watch Her) Lardo - Swimmer


    Ep094: Duane Denison (the Jesus Lizard, Tomahawk, DK3) Jun 30, 2017
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    What is there to say? Duane Denison is a living legend. We talk DK3, Jesus Lizard, Robert Fripp, technique and process, innovation and inspiration. Did we mention living legend? Interview starts at 8:30 Music played: DK3 - Traveling Salesman Jesus Lizard - Bloody Mary Jesus Lizard - Then Comes Dudley Shellac - End of Radio (Closing Theme)


    Ep093: Hammer, Chisel, Fall - Anti-Inauguration Day Jukebox Jan 22, 2017
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    Pretty straightforward. Screw that dude. Dead Kennedys - Kill the Poor The Crucifucks - Hinkley Had a Vision Poster children - the leader The Thermals - God and Country Minutemen - Fascist / Joe McCarthy’s Ghost / Paranoid Chan Shellac - All the Surveyors Minutemen - This Ain't No Picnic Iron Maiden - Run to the Hills Sleater-Kinney - Combat Rock fugazi - smallpox champion BABYLAND - Omaha Minutes - Raise our Fists Up Pete Seeger - We Shall Overcome Black Flag - Rise Above Public Enemy - Fight the Power the Beatles - Revolution (Big Rock version) Dirty Three - Everything’s Fucked / Hammer, Chisel, Down/fall collage


    Ep092: Protonic Top 10 Best Records of 2016 Dec 23, 2016
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    (stream and download - Episode 92) It was really hard to get down to 10 for this. Anybody that says there's no good music out there has rocks in their head. The list: 1. Beat Drun Juel - suppressor 2. Whores - Gold 3. Nocturnal Habits - New Skin for Old Children 4. Helms Alee - Stillicide 5. The Cell Phones - No 6. Future of the Left - the Peace and Truce of Future of the Left 7. Blind Shake - Celebrate Your Worth 8. Savak - Best of Luck in Future Endeavors 9. The rutabega - unreliable narrator 10. Christian fitness - this taco is not correct 5 songs that are not on the top 10 records of 2016 1. Melvins - Decay of Lying 2. Big Business - Fathers Day 3. Maple Stave - Call Sign Spider 4. Iggy Pop - Paraguay 5. John Congleton & the Nighty Nite - You are Facing the Wrong Way LET'S COUNT IT DOWN! 10: Christian fitness - this taco is not correct Avid listeners and fans of the show will probably remember... probably remember? How could you forget. Episode 89 with Falco, making a record breaking 4th apperance on protonic, this is a great record. I find that a lot of people don't know it so much. It's all pretty much Falco, Jack from Future of the Left, Mclusky plays drums. It's one of the best records that came out this year, that people haven't paid that much attention that like this kind of music. Reggie Has Asbestos Training 9. The rutabega - unreliable narrator This is their second record, the Unreliable Narrator, a little less epic than Brothers The Lights Don't Work which has been their classic go-to, but the songs are as solid as can be, and very cool. I think you will appreciate it very much, if you haven't heard it... you really need to. I'm playing one of the lesser known ones here. There is a very specific thing, there's emotions! there's feelings! it's not just noise all the time. You can find it at Comedy Minus One, they are good people, making good music from South Bend Indiana. I happened to pick the one that is the darkest most emotional journey on the record, that's how we do at Protonic Reversal. I dig this one, this is the moody closer. I've Been the Armour Also find them at Comedy Minus One Josh and Garth appeared on the show all the way back in episode 33! 8. Savak - Best of Luck in Future Endeavors This is a supergroup of sorts, members of Obits and Virgin Islands. I quite like it, I don't know exactly what I was expecting but it's a really good hot rocking good time. Episode 84 featured Sohrab of Savak, Obits, Edsel. This record came out early in the year, and I feel like it made a big impact with folks, but I feel like people aren't giving it the deference it deserves. There's an almost new wave-y element to it that i'm really into, but this is some serious rock music at the same time. Also available on Comedy Minus One 7. Blind Shake - Celebrate Your Worth One of the best bands loosely affiliated with the new garage rock "movement", they are on their own thing, their own trip. The Blind Shake! Possibly my favorite since Seriousness. Just excellent stuff all around. This one is on Goner. This one is a little less noisy, and a little more DEVO from Pluto. 6. Future of the Left - the Peace and Truce of Future of the Left I feel like the last few Future of the Left records are divisive for some reason, people seem to be really into them or not into them at all. And they don't give them a chance. They dont' give it a chance. This is a band that keeps getting better, I frankly like them better than mclusky. Which is heretical for a lot of folks and I don't care. It's a busy world, out there. You should make time for this one. Again Episode 89 for Falco's last appearance 5. The Cell Phones - No Believe it or not, I find this band a little hard to describe. Truth told, they sound like themselves, but when pressed I say they sound like Tina Turner fronting NoMeansNo, Freddie Mercury fronting DFA1979, Sharon Jones (of Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings) fronting the Minutemen, none of that makes much sense, but it gets you to a starting point. The record is called NO, two words. NO. How do you talk about something like this without just saying: "this kicks ass, shut up stupid, and listen!". It sounds like it's from another planet, but I mean that as a compliment! 4. Helms Alee - Stillicide Brace Yourself. Great band, one of those bands that are just difficult to describe but are top to bottom wonderful. A unique voice in heavy music, melodic, epic, adventerous. Go find them at Sargent House 3. Nocturnal Habits - New Skin for Old Children This is Justin Trosper and Sara from Unwound, with some Two Ton Boa action in there as well. It's amazing, I love this record, i've listened to it lots. One of the deeper cuts on this one. Lush as hell and great stuff. Soothing in it's way. An alternate universe sequel to Leaves Turn Inside you by Unwound. Of course Justin Trosper was also on last episode. 2. Whores - Gold Two time guest on the show. Last appearance was episode 90. This is off the record Gold. It's a bomber. They do a thing that is heavy and noisy, kind of reminds me of KARP-esque things. It's really good. You can also get the back catalog here. Also worthy! They are receiving a lot of attention right now and it's a very cool, gravity defying thing. 1. Beat Drun Juel - suppressor You probably don't know it, and that's ok. A Chicago band. I slept on listening to this for way too long because I could not remember the name. Which really isn't that difficult. Once you get it, it's fine... but you have to get it. This is fucking awesome. It's PJ Harvey, it's noiserock, it's all those things... and it's own thing. So those are the top 10 records of the years. I also am tossing in top 5 songs that were not on those records. 1. Melvins - Decay of Lying Stiff competition this year, one of the two Melvins record that came out this year. Basses Loaded, the other being Mike and the Melvins with Mike Kunka of godheadSilo. Basses loaded has a bunch of different bass players on it, and it's really cool. The lead off track is one of my favorite Melvins songs in awhile, it's the big Alice Cooper side of what they do, and I like it. 2. Big Business - Fathers Day They're back as a two piece with a kickass record. It's got riffs, if you know... you're into that kind of thing. The record is called Command Your Weather. 3. Maple Stave - Call Sign Spider I had this record for awhile, listened to it and enjoyed it. But this song is the business. From the incredibly politically contentious state of North Carolina. Last song on the record, I like them a lot. Don't know why it took me so long, frankly. This one gets real close to emo, real close to something i'm not comfortable with at all, but stays on the right side. 4. Iggy Pop - Paraguay One that might actually be on a few lists outside of the Nerd-o-verse. Post-pop Depression, it's a good good record. I liked it a lot, I didn't top 10 like it though, I think it has some weak spots and some of lyrics kind of blow. One of my favorite rock 'n roll people of all time. But it's true, certainly my favorite Iggy Pop record in years and years though. Kind of his goodbye record, it's interesting to think of there not being an Iggy Pop around anymore making music. I think it's kind of awesome that it's in the last song lyrically too. Oh! Do yourself the favor and follow Iggy Pop on instagram to see him hanging out with his bird, it's amazing. 5. John Congleton & the Nighty Nite - You are Facing the Wrong Way FEEL THOSE CHIMES SUCKA! I love this record, but there are only so many slots. I listen to this one a lot actually. Famed producer John Congleton and ex-pAperchAse Christian Fitness - Reggie has Asbestos Training the rutabega - I've Been the Armor SAVAK - Alive in Shadows The Blind Shake - Apostle Island Future of the Left - Running All Over the Wicket The Cell Phones - You Make Me Say No Helms Alee - Tit to Toe Nocturnal Habits - New Skin Whores - I See You Are Also Wearing A Black T-Shirt Beat Drun Juel - Hugger John Congleton & the Nighty Nite - You Are Facing the Wrong Way Iggy Pop - Paraguay Maple Stave - Call Station Spider Big Business - Father's Day Melvins - Decay of Lying The Blind Shake - Reasonable World Shellac - The End of Radio (Closing Theme)


    Ep091: Justin Trosper (Unwound, Survival Knife, Nocturnal Habits) Dec 14, 2016
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    Fall records and making things far away from people. Making leaves as an analog recording right in the middle of the digital revolution. Soundbreaking and process change , digital as 4 track, and recording with none of the people in the same room, live bands merging, skipping the “getting going” phase, numero group reissues as nerd wish fulfillment, revisiting the discography, outsiders looking back with rose colored glasses, the cult of instant reaction, post-hardcore, legacy and just doing it, two ton boa , touring during election2016 and Unwound touring during 9/11, politics in music and the value of the personal, survival knife: wha’ happen?, replikants, blade runner remake Brandt on the leaves tour, last Unwound tour as rocky movie and so much more.


    Ep090: Christian Lembach (Whores.) Oct 06, 2016
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    Christian returns to Protonic Reversal to talk about the new whores record GOLD, online presence and communication, bullshit filters, the sacrifices and choices one makes for “living the life” and the trade-offs that ensue, the deep affinity and friendship that comes from a shared esoteric interest, Harrison Ford, quality merch, PRF BBQ Louisville, self awareness and SO. MUCH. MORE. Songs Played: Whores. – Baby Teeth Whores. – Playing Poor Shellac – the End of Radio (Closing Theme)


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