Conan Neutron’s Protonic Reversal

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Ep450: Chris Spencer (Unsane, Human Impact, Cuthroats 9, Celan, UXO) Feb 23, 2026

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Six years have past since Chris Spencer was last on Protonic! At the time Human Impact was brand new. So let's catch up. Starting with the reissue of Occupational Hazard on Lamb Unlimited. Remastered and including the AmRep demos. Unsane with Eric Cooper and Jon Syverson will be doing a lot of touring this year, along with an appearance at Roadburn! We speak about that as well the incredible story behind the release of the once lost, than found Improvised Munitions, and exactly where The Ernie Chicorelli disappeared to...the nature of the Telecaster and why it is the perfect guitar for Chris. The Body Bomb video (and MTV's very succinct response), synergy with the sonic science of Jim Coleman with Human Impact. Human Impact writing something like 48 songs during the pandemic. Celan Recording in Berlin's Neubauten studio in a wild two-week sprint. Cutthroats 9, Frank Kozik and Man's ruin. All that and so very much more!

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Ep449: William Goldsmith (Assertion, Sunny Day Real Estate, the Fire Theft, Foo Fighters) Feb 10, 2026

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4 years and a month ago (what? Really?), William Goldsmith was on to talk about Sunny Real Estate, Fire Theft, Foo Fighers and Assertion. Now Assertion has a new record that snuck into Conan's top records of 2025 "Basking in the Gaslight". In additon to that Sunny Day Real Estate has been back and playing shows ! The "Down in the Park" sessions with the Foo Fighters (as well as some great talk about Gary Numan).. the recording of Diary and history of that as well as revisiting. Which albums William can listen to and which he can't... and that there are 3 2" tapes of 90s Sunny Day Real Estate waiting to get listened to. Wow! All this plus SDRE and Fire Theft history. William's powerful friendship with Scott Jernigan of KARP, including a two drummer project! and lots, lots more. It's been a long time, let's catch up.

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Ep448: Pall Jenkins (Black Heart Procession, Three Mile Pilot) Jan 14, 2026

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Black Heart is back, and playing shows in 2025. What wonderful news. Pall knows knives! Acidwrx balisong knives (aka: aka: butterfly knives). Probably more knife talk than has ever happened on this show. The history of Three Mile Pilot, a history of Black Heart Procession. working with Issac Brock on Ugly Casanova (and Modest Mouse in general), making a video for every song BEFORE the youtube age, Corey Rusk calling about being on Touch and Go and getting the message from his mom, the act of creation, being a quiet person and a frontman, and the Ice Cream Floats upcoming cruise. It's been 5 1/2 years since Pall's Black heart bandmate Toby was on, so let's dig in.

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Ep447: Top Records of 2025 Dec 26, 2025

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B. Hamilton - B. Hamilton - Good Foot (ep429)
Lung - The Swankeeper - The Money
Gaytheist - The Mustache Stays - Break Me In (ep425)
mclusky - the world is still here and so are we - way of the exploding dickhead
PLOSIVS - YELL AT CLOUD - Falls Equivalency
HLLLYH - URUBURU - Black Rainbows (ep434)
Buñuel - Mansuetude - Drug Burn (ep401)
Deaf Club - We Demand A Permanent State of Happiness - Nihilism For Dummies (Ep432, Ep442)
Vile Bees - Joy Coughs - Anime Bodies
Chat Pile and Hayden Pedigo - In the Earth Again - Demon Time
We Contain Multitudes - Minako - D9 (ep431)
Jolie Laide - Creatures - Something for the Thrill (ep424)
Resurrectionists - Any Time You Make a Place for Them - Hey Man
Cheer-Accident - Admission - Cold Comfort (ep430)
FACS - Wish Defense - Wish Defense (ep417)
Heet Deth - Bad Reading - King of Swords
Cosmic Kitten - Cosmic Kitten - Hole In My Soul
The Austerity Program - Bible Songs 2 - Lamentations 4:7-11 (Ep423)
Sloan - Based on the Best Seller - Dream Destroyer
Swami John Reis - Time to Let You Down - Fed to the Dogs
Shiner - BELIEVEYOUME - Asleep In the Trunk
Tropical Fuck Storm - Fairyland Codex - Dunning Kruger's Loser Cruiser
Melvins - Thunderball - Victory of the Pyramids
Lightning Swells Forever - Delirium - Daze
Assertion - Basking in the Gaslight - Please Wake Up

Listening playlist - apple music, spotify, youtube music

Also, while listening to stuff... Conan put out a Conan Neutron & the Secret Friends record called The Way of the Neutron too. apple music, spotify, youtube music

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Ep446: Tim Soete (The Fucking Champs) Dec 21, 2025

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The evolution of the Champs, including the Santa Cruz days and move to SF and Tim Green joining. Playing metal in an environment that didn't always support that. changing the name to C4AM95 for their "third record" and why that may have not been the smartest idea. Listing gear in the record jacket, Drag City, Changing to The Fucking Champs (based on a t-shirt), IV and Extra Man. Collaborations and tours with Trans Am, Josh leaving and Phil Manley tagging in. Side projects and how the Champs kind of petered out. Tim also has a synth based electronic record out called Orange Magnet on bandcamp. and why a Fucking Champs reunion is pretty unlikely.

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Ep445: J.D. Pinkus (Butthole Surfers, Melvins, Honky, Daddy Longhead, Jackofficers, Areola 51, Solo) Dec 15, 2025

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It has been SEVEN YEARS since the mighty J.D Pinkus has been on Protonic Reversal. The Butthole Surfers documentary, recording with John Paul Jones (and getting him to swear off alcohol!), lack of credits in the BHS world and dipping out before the "big hit", high tech rednecks putting together the insane visuals in a pre-photoshop era. Playing with Helios Creed, singing in your proper range, space banjo, Double Live and the story of Kathleen the Sh*t lady, Tall Tall Trees and Ponder Machine, Grow a Pear, Union Synthesizers, Fungus Shui (and it being a TRUE solo record, sans dogs), Kramer. Songs v. Sound. Versions of songs and how they live after being written. Jackofficers and "Hick-hop", Hurdy Gurdy Man, word of mouth v. Internet, is P S Y the BHS version of Dark Star? Live at Leather Fly, The BHS book by James Burns. Breakaway bottles, Upcoming tour with Clutch and COC and SO MUCH MORE.

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Ep444: Steven McDonald (Redd Kross, Melvins, OFF!) Dec 02, 2025

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Steven is back, after a 5 YEAR (!) break. Redd Kross has been very busy! Including releasing their latest (and best?) album The Redd album. Upcoming shows with the Hard Ons and Little Steven's Underground Garage CRUISE. The critic inside your head, staying present... the formation and career of OFF!, taking a 10 year break from touring... joining Melvins and adjusting to being a utility player and serving the music, as well as bringing the BIG ROCK! Dynamics with Jeff McDonald, vs. others, a 45 year spanning band! KISS, Neurotica, Sparks talk (like: playing in their live band!). The Redd Kross documentary featuring the SONG Born Innocent. and Spirit of '76. Hey, he's a busy guy, let's dive in.

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Ep443: Rey Washam (Scratch Acid, Rapeman, Ministry, Didjits, Tad) Nov 27, 2025

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The legendary drummer returns! A long time coming, This is Rey's return to Protonic Reversal all the way from Episode 27! The Scratch Acid Box Set, and legacy. The "R" band and reactions to that band's name and the future of that music on streaming. Playing with Ministry, Big Boys. Didjits and Phantom Planet (!). What led Rey to try his hand at acting and how that worked out. String sections in punk rock songs and why Rey wish he had gotten to know Steve Albini better.

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Ep442: Justin Pearson (Deaf Club, the Locust, Planet B, Dead Cross, 31G) Oct 17, 2025

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It has been over 4 years since JP has been on protonic! And in that time Deaf Club has only thrived they have a new record We Demand A Permanent State of Happiness AND he's launched his own podcast called Cult and Culture. What else? Well, a lot actually. Lots of podcast talk, as well as Dead Cross and Dave Lombardo, Michael Crain and Retox, the Locust legacy, Head Wound City, the return of Swing Kids, Brian's love of Nirvana, keeping 31G alive as an independent label in 2025, the Oops tour and competitiveness in music, and amongst everything else...recreating Killing Joke's Extremities with Martin Atkins. It's a back and forth conversation and a good time as Conan squeezes in one last protonic reversal before tour JUST for you.

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Ep441: Andrew Dalton (Nuzzle) Oct 14, 2025

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Nuzzle was a high energy indie rock band from Santa Cruz, adjacent to the Gravity Records and K/Kill Rock Stars west coast scenes of the 90s. Follow For Now, their 1995 record has been reissued by Solid Brass Records a remix and remaster! We get into the history of Nuzzle, Yo-Yo A Go-Go, Junk of Myth, and a little bit of the Dying Californian. As well as revisiting songs, remixing and remastering records without the pressure of immediately going on tour, bay area punk rock history, George Chen, oh yeah and Conan's first van being one of Nuzzle's old vans.

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