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White House's Patrick Witt: CLARITY Is 'Not a Giveaway' to Crypto and Trump's 'Historic' Ethics Concession Jul 24, 2026

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CoinDesk's The Policy Protocol hosts Rebecca Rettig and Renato Mariotti open on the week's biggest policy news from SEC Commissioner Hester Peirce's statement on crypto vaults to the London Stock Exchange's launch of a 24/5 tokenized market.

Then, Patrick Witt, Executive Director of the President's Council of Advisors for Digital Assets, joins to make the case that the CLARITY Act deserves a Senate floor vote before the August recess and argues that President Trump's agreement to subject himself to conduct restrictions is a "historic" and unprecedented ethics concession. Witt also breaks down the CFTC's expanded mission and the fight over funding and staffing.

Plus, Rebecca and Renato debrief on the lessons of MiCA and the state of bipartisan compromise on the Hill, and name the state attorneys general, led by an op-ed from Montana's AG, as their Person of the Week.

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Timecodes:

00:00 Cold Open: 'No Other President Has Done That'

01:07 Welcome to The Policy Protocol

01:59 Hester Peirce on Crypto Vaults & Onchain Lending

04:22 The LSE's 24/5 Market, LSE24

05:59 NYSE, OKX, and TradFi's Tokenization Push

06:18 The CLARITY Act & Guest Patrick Witt

06:41 Will CLARITY Pass Before the August Recess?

09:01 Inside the Bill's Historic Ethics Provision

11:06 The Tillis Ethics Compromise

12:40 Funding the CFTC's Expanded Mission

14:03 Why CLARITY Isn't a Giveaway to Crypto

17:04 Debrief: MiCA's Lessons and Market Structure

20:37 Person of the Week: State Attorneys General

Charles Hoskinson on Cardano's Future, Ethereum's Mistakes, and Crypto's Missing Safety Net | Markets Outlook Jul 23, 2026

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Wanchain bridge hack, why Ethereum keeps getting it wrong, and Cardano's outlook with Charles Hoskinson.

After a bridge hack rattled the Cardano ecosystem, Charles Hoskinson, CEO and Founder of Input Output, joins Jennifer Sanasie on Markets Outlook to lay out why crypto desperately needs wallet insurance, ZK-powered identity, and white hat rescue frameworks. Plus, what Cardano's latest hard fork really means for decentralized governance, why he thinks Ethereum keeps getting it wrong, and what it will actually take for prices to recover. Plus, we look at the DTCC taking tokenized securities live in today’s Brand New Rails segment.

Timecodes:

00:00 - Charles Hoskinson Joins Markets Outlook

01:25 - Wanchain Bridge Hack and What It Revealed

02:21 - Why Midnight Was Built for This Moment

03:44 - Why Crypto Needs Wallet and Bridge Insurance

05:28 - How ZK Identity Unlocks Recovery and White Hat Rescues

09:46 - The "Unsexy" Unlock: Why Insurance Could Onboard the Masses

13:17 - Cardano's Hard Fork to v11 and What It Means

14:42 - Cardano's Decentralized Governance in Action

17:35 - Executive Function: The Last Governance Milestone

20:08 - Brand New Rails: What’s Next After the DTCC Moved Tokenized Securities Into Live Production

22:07 - Cardano's Outlook: Narrative Reset, Bitcoin DeFi, and the Partner Chain Model

26:05 - The Anthropic Analogy: Why Doing It Right Beats Doing It Fast

29:12 - Why Ethereum Keeps Getting It Wrong

36:22 - When Will Prices Catch Up? Charles' Market Framework

42:28 - The AI Wildcard and What It Means for Crypto

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Revolut Hits $115B Valuation in Employee Share Sale | CoinDesk Daily Jul 23, 2026

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Revolut valued at $115 billion.

Digital bank Revolut has been valued at $115 billion in a secondary share sale, a 53% jump in under a year that makes it Europe's most valuable private company. The crypto-friendly firm has floated seeking a $200 billion valuation in a future IPO. CoinDesk's Uyen Truong hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

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"Getting The Fortune 500 Onchain is The Primary Goal" Jul 22, 2026

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Dan Romero, who leads go-to-market at Tempo, joins Sam Ewen with a 12-year crypto perspective that stretches from the early days at Coinbase to building Farcaster to now focusing entirely on stablecoin payment rails. He breaks down why these three things: regulation, infrastructure, and distribution, have finally aligned to make real world crypto adoption possible, and why Tempo's betting on being the best payments chain rather than a general purpose blockchain. - Timecodes: 0:00 – Intro on stablecoin yield philosophy 1:20 – From Farcaster to Tempo: the through line 2:56 – The market split: speculation vs. stablecoins 5:37 – Regulatory tailwinds from the Genius Act 8:41 – How yield on Tempo works 14:23 – Balancing privacy and transparency 17:38 – What it takes to win in payments infrastructure 21:01 – Why compliance matters 22:25 – Outlook on the Genius Act rulemaking - From our sponsors: Ledn provides a secure and transparent way to access liquidity while maintaining your bitcoin holdings. Perfect 8 year track record of keeping clients assets safe. Don't sell your bitcoin. Get a bitcoin-backed loan. Check out your rate by using their loan calculator at ledn.io - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Find out more at realfi.co. - Check out CoinDesk Research’s report on Zcash’s push toward private scale and quantum resilience at: https://www.coindesk.com/research/building-the-zcash-machine-tachyon-and-quantum-readiness

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Clarity Act Odds Jump to 42% After Reported Trump Ethics Deal | CoinDesk Daily Jul 21, 2026

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Clarity Act odds surged after unverified reports of a Trump ethics deal.

Polymarket traders raised the odds of the Clarity Act becoming law this year to 42%, after reports that President Trump agreed to the ethics provision that had stalled the crypto market structure bill. CoinDesk's Uyen Truong hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

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This episode was hosted by Uyen Truong. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

AI Shock Spares Bitcoin, Wall Street Moves On-Chain, and Leveraged Crypto ETFs Explained Jul 20, 2026

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On this episode of CoinDesk's Public Keys from the New York Stock Exchange, Jennifer Sanasie is joined by Ben Emons, Founder and Chief Investment Officer of FedWatch Advisors, to break down the market fallout from Moonshot AI's Kimi K3 and why the Fed is now actively debating rate hikes rather than cuts ahead of the August 7th CLARITY Act deadline.

Nadine Chakar, Managing Director and Global Head of Digital Assets at DTCC, explains how the firm moved tokenized securities into live production and outlines DTCC's role as an institutional multi-chain orchestrator ahead of a full commercial launch. The conversation turns to ETF flows, where Bitcoin funds finished last week with $76 million in net inflows despite a $425 million outflow on Monday alone, and Ethereum ETFs outpaced Bitcoin inflows led by $135 million into BlackRock's ETHA.

Finally, Bilal Little, Global ETF Strategist at Direxion, unpacks the debut of BTCU and EVMU — the industry's first 2x leveraged spot Bitcoin and Ether ETFs — explains why an ETF wrapper beats margin on a crypto exchange for retail traders, and responds to Bloomberg ETF analyst Eric Balchunas's thesis that Bitcoin ETFs will mirror gold's 22-year "triumph and pain" trajectory. The episode closes with the Fear and Greed Index at 29.

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Timecodes:

00:00 Welcome to Public Keys

00:22 Ben Emons (FedWatch Advisors) Joins Public Keys

00:48 China's Kimi K3 Rattles Chip Stocks Friday

01:42 Bitcoin Holds $64K, While AI Sells Off

02:59 Crypto Miners Pivot to AI: HUT8 Up 14%

03:58 Kimi K3 vs. DeepSeek: This Time It's a Price War

05:03 AI Selloff Tightens Financial Conditions, Helps Fed

06:32 Fed Now Debating Rate Hikes, Not Cuts

06:58 CLARITY Act Deadline: August 7th

09:15 DTCC Takes Tokenized Securities Into Live Production

09:36 Nadine Chakar on the 10-Year Journey to Live Tokenization

13:45 DTCC's Multi-Chain Roadmap

15:26 DTCC's Digital Twin Framework

18:14 Bitcoin ETF Flows: $76M Week Masks $425M Monday Outflow

18:49 Ether ETFs Outpace Bitcoin; Robinhood Chain Hits $800M+ Daily Volume

19:35 Bilal Little (Direxion) on the First 2x Spot Crypto ETF Debut

22:42 How BTCU and EVMU Work — and Why Not Just Use Margin?

25:50 Do Bitcoin ETFs Mirror Gold?

27:38 Fear and Greed Index at 29

Is China's AI Sector Behind? Moonshot Plans for IPO After Kimi K3 Rattled Markets | CoinDesk Daily Jul 20, 2026

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Moonshot AI plans for IPO.

Moonshot AI's Kimi K3 model outscored every AI rival except Fable 5 and GPT-5.6, triggering a semiconductor selloff. Now the company is preparing for a Hong Kong IPO at a $30 billion-plus valuation. CoinDesk's Sam Ewen hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

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Ledn Goes Beyond Bitcoin: Tether Gold Trading Now Live, Loans Next Jul 18, 2026

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Ledn Founder and Chief Sales Officer Mauricio Di Bartolomeo joins CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie to discuss why his platform is adding tokenized gold alongside its flagship bitcoin-backed loan product and what shifting client behavior is telling him about where the market is headed. Plus, why he believes the bear market is nearing its end and where he sees bitcoin closing the year.

Timecodes:00:00 - Ledn Founder Mauricio Di Bartolomeo Joins CoinDesk

00:33 - Ledn Adds Tokenized Gold

03:24 - Are Gold Bugs Rotating Into Bitcoin?

05:05 - Addressing Tokenized Gold Custody Concerns

08:47 - Gold-Backed Loans Coming to Ledn This Year

10:29 - Bitcoin's Bear Market Bottom & Year-End Price Target

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AI Chip Selloff Drags Bitcoin to $63K | CoinDesk Daily Jul 17, 2026

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The AI selloff drags bitcoin down.

A deepening selloff in semiconductor stocks pulled bitcoin to $63,000 on Friday as markets questioned whether AI hyperscaler spending will produce the returns to justify chip valuations. CoinDesk's Sam Ewen hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

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Elizabeth Warren Tried to ‘Destroy’ the GENIUS Act: Sen. Hagerty Jul 17, 2026

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CoinDesk's The Policy Protocol host Rebecca Rettig is joined by guest co-host Ryan VanGrack, Coinbase's newly appointed Vice Chairman, to unpack the week's biggest crypto policy developments. They begin with the escalating legal standoff between Kalshi, the state of Michigan and the CFTC, before turning to the U.S.-U.K.'s new joint recommendations on stablecoins and tokenized assets. On the one-year anniversary of the GENIUS Act, Rebecca sits down with the bill's architect, Sen. Bill Hagerty (R-Tenn.), who reflects on the legislative battle to pass the landmark stablecoin law and explains why the CLARITY Act now faces an even more challenging political path. The episode closes with Hero of the Week Harry Jung, Patrick Whitt's deputy who is stepping into a leading White House role on crypto policy while Whitt takes military leave, and Zero of the Week Sam Bankman-Fried, after the Senate unanimously passed a resolution opposing any pardon or commutation for the former FTX founder. - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Find out more at⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ realfi.co⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. - Ledn provides a secure and transparent way to access liquidity while maintaining your bitcoin holdings. Perfect 8 year track record of keeping clients assets safe. Don't sell your bitcoin. Get a bitcoin-backed loan. Check out your rate by using their loan calculator at⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ledn.io⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - JPEG Trading is a global proprietary trading firm specializing in cryptocurrency and decentralized finance markets. From market structure and liquidity provision to quantitative trading strategies, JPEG Trading operates across the full spectrum of blockchain-based assets. Follow @jpegtrading on X to stay ahead of the latest developments in digital asset markets:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://x.com/jpegtrading⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Timecodes: 00:00 Welcome to The Policy Protocol

01:14 Coinbase's New Vice Chairman Ryan VanGrack Co-Hosts

03:06 Kalshi, Michigan Courts, and the CFTC Standoff

07:51 US-UK Joint Statement on Stablecoins

11:22 Conversation with Senator Bill Hagerty

11:54 GENIUS at One Year: Countries Copying U.S. Language Word for Word

12:41 Warren's Midnight Amendments and the Real Fight Behind the Bill

17:51 What are CLARITY's Remaining Hurdles?

19:05 Will Democrats Allow a Win? Hagerty on CLARITY's Path Forward

21:11 World Cup Picks With Senator Hagerty

24:37 Hero of the Week: Harry Jung

25:35 Zero of the Week: Sam Bankman-Fried