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THE MINING POD: How the BTC ETF Changes Investor Time Horizons Oct 21, 2025

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T. Rowe Price’s Blue Macellari argues that Bitcoin’s ETF has altered its cycles forever.

Welcome back to The Mining Pod! Today, we have a two-for-one show with two interviews we recorded at the North American Blockchain Summit. To start, Colin interviews Blue Macellari (Head of Digital Assets at T. Rowe Price) on how institutional adoption is fundamentally changing Bitcoin's market structure, the debasement trade narrative going mainstream, and why fast money hasn't arrived yet this cycle. Then, Will hops on the horn with Dale Nally (Minister of Red Tape Reduction in Alberta) to discuss Alberta's competitive advantages for Bitcoin mining and a concierge program for large miners.

Notes:

• BlackRock's IBIT reached $70B+ AUM, top 20 ETF

• ETF holders parking Bitcoin for decades

• Basis trade tied to futures market growth

• T. Rowe Price sees institutions changing cycles

• Alberta cut 35% of red tape, saved $3B

• Alberta has 200-year natural gas supply

Timestamps:

00:00 Start

04:34 Bitcoin ETFs & 4yr cycle

06:08 Institutional demand & cycle changes

08:18 Retail behavior

10:38 ETH treasury companies

14:04 Debasement trade

16:01 Fed rate cuts

19:51 BTC is risk on or off?

24:41 Cleanspark Ad

25:10 Canada's energy sector

25:46 Who is Dale Nally?

27:09 NatGas generators for AI

29:09 LNG exports

31:33 Exports to the US?

35:14 How is the Alberta energy system unique?

37:41 Capital formation

39:46 Canadian Federal Bitcoin Reserve?

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British Columbia to Ban New Crypto Mining Projects From Grid | CoinDesk Daily Oct 21, 2025

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Is Mining Over in British Columbia?

The Canadian province of British Columbia plans to introduce a permanent ban on new cryptocurrency mining operations connecting to its electricity grid. What does the regulation mean for miners in the region? CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

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Bridge simplifies global money movement. As the leading stablecoin issuance and orchestration platform, Bridge abstracts away blockchain complexity so businesses can seamlessly move between fiat and stablecoins. From payroll providers and remittance companies to neobanks and treasury teams, Bridge powers payments, savings, and stablecoin issuance for thousands – like Shopify, Metamask, Remitly, and more.

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This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Taylor Fleming.

Why Eric Trump Wants to Make Big Banks 'Irrelevant' | CoinDesk Spotlight Oct 21, 2025

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Insights into the past, present and future of the crypto industry with Eric Trump.

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Eric Trump, American Bitcoin co-founder and Chief Strategy Officer, joins "CoinDesk Spotlight" to break down how being "de-banked" and the weaponization of the financial system pushed him into crypto. Plus, his journey from real estate to bitcoin mining and the vision for tokenizing Trump properties. And, he shares the story of Michael Saylor telling him to mortgage Mar-a-Lago to buy bitcoin.

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OwlTing (Nasdaq: OWLS) is building invisible rails for global payments. With OwlPay, businesses and users can bridge fiat and stablecoins, send money instantly across borders, and access stablecoin checkout at lower costs. Licensed worldwide, OwlTing delivers secure, compliant, and regulated infrastructure for the digital economy. Learn more at ⁠⁠https://www.owlting.com/portal/?lang=en&utm_source=CoinDesk&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=CoinDesk_Banner⁠⁠.

Timestamps:

1:47 - Eric Trump's First Memory of Money 3:42 - How "Debanking" Led Eric Trump to Crypto 8:28 - The Danger of Hard Assets vs. Crypto's Liquidity 12:18 - 'Michael Saylor Told Me to Mortgage Mar-A-Lago for Bitcoin' 13:29 - Building American Bitcoin 16:32 - Eric Trump's $1 Million Bitcoin Prediction 20:17 - Why Eric Says the "Dam is Breaking" for Crypto Adoption 22:17 - Market Structure and Where Crypto Regulation Goes from Here 25:21 - Are Tariffs Impacting ABTC's Mining Operations? 27:00 - World Liberty Financial's DeFi Model 30:16 - USD1 & Financial Freedom in Developing Nations 36:52 - Tokenizing Trump Real Estate 38:41 - Taylor Swift Should Be Able to Tokenize Her Albums 41:26 - Eric Trump's Take on Stablecoins 45:09 - Who Are Eric Trump's Crypto Mentors? 51:39 - Is Barron Trump a Degen?

This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Spotlight” is produced by Sam Ewen, Jennifer Sanasie, Taylor Fleming and Victor Chen.

XRP Investor Says $3M of Tokens Were Stolen From Cold Wallet | CoinDesk Daily Oct 20, 2025

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An investor said they lost $3M of XRP from a cold wallet.

A long-time XRP investor claimed to have lost $3 million worth of tokens from cold wallet maker Ellipal’s mobile app. Will they be able to recover the funds and can cold wallets still be trusted? CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

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OwlTing (Nasdaq: OWLS) is building invisible rails for global payments. With OwlPay, businesses and users can bridge fiat and stablecoins, send money instantly across borders, and access stablecoin checkout at lower costs. Licensed worldwide, OwlTing delivers secure, compliant, and regulated infrastructure for the digital economy. Learn more at ⁠⁠https://www.owlting.com/portal/?lang=en&utm_source=CoinDesk&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=CoinDesk_Banner⁠⁠.

This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

PayPal’s Path to On-Chain Payments and Financial Inclusion Oct 20, 2025

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May Zabaneh, Head of Crypto at PayPal, shares how PYUSD, stablecoins, and AI are powering the next wave of global payments—and why the future of money is happening on-chain.

In this episode of Gen C, May Zabaneh, Head of Crypto at PayPal, shares how PYUSD, stablecoins, and AI are powering the next wave of global payments—and why the future of money is happening on-chain. From scaling mobile payments to championing blockchain, May shares what it takes to drive change within a global payment leader.

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Bridge simplifies global money movement. As the leading stablecoin issuance and orchestration platform, Bridge abstracts away blockchain complexity so businesses can seamlessly move between fiat and stablecoins. From payroll providers and remittance companies to neobanks and treasury teams, Bridge powers payments, savings, and stablecoin issuance for thousands – like Shopify, Metamask, Remitly, and more. Visit https://hubs.ly/Q03KGbRK0.
OwlTing (Nasdaq: OWLS) is building invisible rails for global payments. With OwlPay, businesses and users can bridge fiat and stablecoins, send money instantly across borders, and access stablecoin checkout at lower costs. Licensed worldwide, OwlTing delivers secure, compliant, and regulated infrastructure for the digital economy. Learn more at ⁠owlting.com⁠.

"Gen C" features host Sam Ewen. Executive produced by Uyen Truong.

Samson Mow Says 'Time is Running Out to Buy Bitcoin at Low Prices' | Markets Outlook Oct 18, 2025

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Diving into the bitcoin markets with JAN3 CEO Samson Mow.

In today's Markets Outlook, JAN3 CEO Samson Mow joins CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie and Andy Baehr to explain why bitcoin's flat price and low volatility is a potential sign of maturity and why his $1 million prediction is still in play. Plus, he dives into the threat of bitcoin "bifurcation," the surge of Korean retail money propping up Ethereum, and the likelihood of nation-state BTC adoption in 2026 amid global de-dollarization trends.

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OwlTing (Nasdaq: OWLS) is building invisible rails for global payments. With OwlPay, businesses and users can bridge fiat and stablecoins, send money instantly across borders, and access stablecoin checkout at lower costs. Licensed worldwide, OwlTing delivers secure, compliant, and regulated infrastructure for the digital economy. Learn more at ⁠⁠https://www.owlting.com/portal/?lang=en&utm_source=CoinDesk&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=CoinDesk_Banner⁠⁠.

This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.

BITCOIN SEASON 2: Bitcoin "Dusting" Attack You Didn't Know About W/ Galaxy Digital Oct 18, 2025

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Galaxy Digital's Zach Pokorny reveals shocking details about the 80,000 BTC whale movement and a massive dusting campaign targeting 2.3 million Bitcoin across 40,000+ addresses with fake legal notices.

Zach Pokorny from Galaxy Digital joins us to discuss their deep investigation into the mysterious 80,000 Bitcoin whale that moved last summer. The report uncovers a massive dusting campaign targeting over 40,000 addresses holding 2.3 million BTC with fake "abandoned property" notices. We dive into the Salomon Brothers connection, the $90K cost of the attack, and why this looks like classic Craig Wright-style lawfare.

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Notes:

• 2.3 million BTC dusted

• 40,000+ addresses hit

• Attack cost 0.7 BTC (~$90,000)

• 80,000 BTC whale sold through Galaxy

• 3-year dormancy minimum targeted

Timestamps:

00:00 Start

02:27 Size & breadth of the messaging campaign

04:39 Message contents

05:51 Legal definitions

08:47 Is Salomon Brothers real?

12:02 Why not use a law firm?

13:06 Did the 80k BTC seller get spooked?

14:31 Scale of the campaign

15:35 Satoshi addresses?

17:55 How did they choose addresses?

19:44 Lots of holders have "dormant coins"

21:17 Cost of the campaign

23:14 Links to other attacks

26:26 Speculating who this was

28:12 Court process & jurisdiction

32:12 Wrap up

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Why This Digital Asset Fund Fled to Cash Amid $19B Crypto Meltdown | Markets Outlook Oct 17, 2025

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Unpacking the recent market meltdown with Round13 Capital Managing Partner and CIO, and Rails Co-Founder and CEO, Satraj Bambra.

In today's Markets Outlook, Round13 Capital Managing Partner and CIO, and Rails Co-Founder and CEO, Satraj Bambra unpacks the $19 billion liquidation cascade that rocked the crypto markets recently. Plus, he shares the major decision his fund made in response: going all-cash—a choice that runs counter to many Q4 bullish forecasts.

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OwlTing (Nasdaq: OWLS) is building invisible rails for global payments. With OwlPay, businesses and users can bridge fiat and stablecoins, send money instantly across borders, and access stablecoin checkout at lower costs. Licensed worldwide, OwlTing delivers secure, compliant, and regulated infrastructure for the digital economy. Learn more at ⁠⁠https://www.owlting.com/portal/?lang=en&utm_source=CoinDesk&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=CoinDesk_Banner⁠⁠.

This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.

Bitcoin Loses $106K After $800M in Liquidations | CoinDesk Daily Oct 17, 2025

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Bitcoin fell to $105K with $1.2B in crypto positions liquidated.

Bitcoin fell to $105,000 as leveraged traders faced significant losses, with $1.2 billion in crypto positions liquidated. What was the cause of the decline? CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily."

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OwlTing (Nasdaq: OWLS) is building invisible rails for global payments. With OwlPay, businesses and users can bridge fiat and stablecoins, send money instantly across borders, and access stablecoin checkout at lower costs. Licensed worldwide, OwlTing delivers secure, compliant, and regulated infrastructure for the digital economy. Learn more at ⁠⁠https://www.owlting.com/portal/?lang=en&utm_source=CoinDesk&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=CoinDesk_Banner⁠⁠.

This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen.

THE MINING POD: MARA’s CTO Shakeup, BlackRock’s $40B AI Deal, Bitdeer’s $2B AI Plans, Ionic Digital’s Microsoft Deal Oct 17, 2025

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In a packed week for bitcoin mining news, MARA has dismissed its CTO, BlackRock cooks up a $40 billion data center firm acquisition, and Bitdeer unveils its $2 billion AI ambitions.

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Welcome back to The Mining Pod! This week, Luxor CEO Nick Hansen joins us to talk multi-month hashprice lows (how low do we go?), MARA firing its CTO, Ionic Digital’s Microsoft-linked AI deal, Bitdeer’s gangbusters September and $2B AI plans, and BlackRock taking the lead on a $40B data center company acquisition. Plus, the US government seizes $14.1B (potentially $16.5B total) in bitcoin from an international scam operation.

**Notes:**

• Hash price dropped below $50/PH/day at $47

• Difficulty adjustment down 2.5% after months of increases

• Bitcoin price fell from $125K to $108K post-tariff news

• Marathon quietly cans CTO

• Bitdeer mined 452 BTC in Sept, up 20.5% month-over-month

• Bitdeer projects $2B annual revenue from AI starting in 2026

• BlackRock leads $40B Aligned Data Centers acquisition

• US seized $14.1B+ Bitcoin from crime syndicate

• PJM needs 43GW battery storage by 2045

• Ionic Digital secured 240MW Microsoft lease, expandable to 1.2GW

Timestamps:

00:00:00:00 Start

00:01:51:00 Difficulty Report by Luxor

00:11:28:10 MARA CTO fired

00:15:40:17 Ionic Digital gets into the AI action

00:18:16:13 PJM needs 43 GW of battery by 2045

00:23:22:16 Bitdeer’s big September

00:27:56:23 BlackRock & Nvidia deal

00:35:03:28 Cry Corner: Uncle Sam gets that bag

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