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    BREAKDOWN: The Mounting Evidence of a New Bitcoin Bull Market Aug 08, 2020
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    From positive price indicators to a new all time high in smallholder addresses, this is the evidence a new bull run might be starting.

    This episode is sponsored by Crypto.com, Bitstamp and Nexo.io.

    This week’s Breakdown Weekly Recap is all about that vibe you’ve been feeling - that inescapable notion a new crypto bull market is afoot.

    NLW looks at the evidence:

    • Rising gold price
    • Recirculation of crypto money out of zombie protocols
    • New growth in small holder addresses
    • Demand from emerging market p2p markets


    It’s just possible this new bull market isn’t just starting to be seen in narratives, but is also showing up in numbers.


    This week on The Breakdown:

    Monday | Rage Against the Economic Machine: The Best of the Breakdown July 2020

    Tuesday | Can Social Media Be Redeemed? Feat. Bobby Goodlatte

    Wednesday |Hedgeye CEO Keith McCullough on Stagflation, Bitcoin and the Devalued Dollar

    Thursday | The History, Present and Future of Central Banks, Feat. George Selgin

    Friday | 11 Numbers That Tell the Story of the Economy Right Now

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    BREAKDOWN: 11 Numbers That Tell the Story of the Economy Right Now Aug 07, 2020
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    From the price of coffee to the national debt as a percentage of GDP, these 11 numbers provide a picture of a fast changing global economy.

    This episode is sponsored by Crypto.com, Bitstamp and Nexo.io.

    Mainstream financial media loves reporting the stock market like it's the only economic indicator that matters. On this episode, NLW breaks down 11 numbers that together tell a much more complete story, including:

    • Record price of gold
    • Square’s bitcoin revenue
    • National debt as a percentage of GDP
    • Fall of the Turkish lira
    • Price of coffee, sugar and cocoa
    • Housing in auto demand
    • Anti-Chinese sentiment in the U.S.


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    BREAKDOWN: The History, Present and Future of Central Banks, Feat. George Selgin Aug 06, 2020
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    The Director of the Cato Institute's Center for Monetary and Financial Alternatives gives an eye-opening, 200-year history of today’s most powerful economic institution.

    This episode is sponsored by Crypto.com, Bitstamp and Nexo.io.

    Today on the Brief:

    • Better news in the jobless claims this week
    • A new bitcoin adoption cycle?
    • Checking on Lebanon


    Our main conversation is with Dr. George Selgin.

    Dr. Selgin is a Senior Fellow and director of the Cato Institute's Center for Monetary and Financial Alternatives as well as Professor Emeritus of Economics at the University of Georgia.

    In this eye-opening conversation, he and NLW go deep on the history, present and future of central banks, including:

    • Why the Scottish and Canadian banking systems in the 19th century show that central banks aren’t a prerequisite for stability
    • Why the U.S. “free banking” system wasn’t free at all
    • Why the instability in the late 19th century U.S. banking system was caused by regulation, not the lack of a Federal Reserve
    • Why the Fed’s first decades were a disaster
    • Why the Fed gets more power when it underperforms
    • The problems with the Fed’s response to 2008
    • What lessons the Fed could have learned (but didn’t) between the Great Financial Crisis and COVID-19


    Find our guest online:

    Website: Alt-M.org

    Twitter: @GeorgeSelgin

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    BREAKDOWN: Hedgeye CEO Keith McCullough on Stagflation, Bitcoin and the Devalued Dollar Aug 05, 2020
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    One of the realest people in financial media joins for a conversation about where the economy really is and where it’s headed.

    This episode is sponsored by Crypto.com, Bitstamp and Nexo.io.

    Today on the Brief:

    • Robinhood doubles quarterly trading revenue
    • Square did $875 billion in bitcoin revenue in Q2 - up 600% YoY
    • ADP report: 167,000 jobs added in July (instead of expected 1.2 million)


    Our main conversation is with Hedgeye CEO Keith McCullough.

    Before building Hedgeye into a “no-excuses provider of real-time investment research and a premier online financial media company,” Keith worked at hedge funds including Carlyle Blue Wave Partners hedge fund, Magnetar Capital, Falconhenge Partners and Dawson Herman Capital Management.

    In this conversation, he and NLW discuss:

    • Hedgeye’s “Full Cycle Investing” approach and GIP (Growth, Inflation, Policy) methodology
    • How the economy was in a period of slowing growth and slowing inflation before COVID-19
    • How we’ve moved into a stagflation period in response to the money printing prompted by the crisis
    • Why bitcoin, gold, emerging market stocks and commodities are likely to thrive in this environment
    • Why most narratives are BS
    • Why the “Old Wall” media distracts rather than educates


    Check out our guest online:

    Website: Hedgeye.com

    Twitter: @KeithMcCullough


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    BREAKDOWN: Can Social Media Be Redeemed? Feat. Bobby Goodlatte Aug 04, 2020
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    An early Facebook product designer-turned angel investor discusses how social media has changed and whether it can be changed again for the better.

    This episode is sponsored by Crypto.com, Bitstamp and Nexo.io.

    Today on the Brief:

    • President Trump wants a cut of the TikTok deal
    • Previewing this week’s COVID-19 vaccine trade
    • Dave Portnoy breaks into bitcoin


    Our main conversation is with Bobby Goodlatte.

    Bobby is the founder of Form Capital, a new seed investment firm that focuses on supporting portfolio companies with value-add design.

    Bobby was an early employee at Facebook and has been an active angel investor since 2012, with investments that include Coinbase.

    In this conversation, he and NLW discuss:

    • The early days of Facebook
    • Why angel investors don’t like new angel investors to get involved
    • How Silicon Valley reflects larger questions of equity valuations
    • How social media has changed over the last decade
    • Why politics is now “downstream from algorithms”
    • Why there are still possibilities to build new social networks
    • Why today’s social networks could make different decisions that would be better for the world.


    Find our guest online:

    Website: Form Capital

    Twitter: @rsg

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    LEIGH: What People Who Aren’t Bullish On Bitcoin Still Like About It Aug 04, 2020
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    Working with open source software changes the development process, according to this researcher who interviewed hundreds of technologists across projects.

    This episode is sponsored by Crypto.com, Bitstamp and Nexo.io.

    There are people who understand bitcoin yet aren’t obsessively bullish on it. (I know, it’s weird. Like, how?)

    Eghbal, a Protocol Labs alum who is familiar with bitcoin, is among them. She described bitcoin as a rare example of a project growing throughout a decade and continuing. Many people measure growth in terms of unique contributors, users or profits. For Eghbal, she said looking at different types of “activity” might offer a better spectrum.

    “Measuring activity is maybe a better way to think about project health...some projects also don’t need to be as actively developed as others,” Eghbal said. “I was also looking at things like maintainers’ responsiveness.”

    In short, are problems promptly fixed before they affect users? The quality of contributions should be evaluated in addition to the sheer number of contributors. Do the people who use the software get unique value from it when they need it?

    Another useful metric, she said, can be “work done,” including “how many pull requests are being merged or how many issues are being closed.”

    And, luckily, Eghbal isn’t the only researcher who understands bitcoin without being “active” in the “Bitcoin community.” (To be fair, I use these silly words more than anyone.) Privacy tech legend Claudia Diaz, Nym’s chief technologist, said she believes there could be value in cryptocurrency projects, although that’s not her focus nor passion.

    “Cryptocurrency offers an option for the people who use the systems to fund them,” Diaz said. “I’m interested in making systems that make sense and self-sustain because everyone has the right incentives.”

    Incentives

    There are many different types of value people derive from open source software projects.

    Sometimes they use the software, sometimes they use public work to develop their own personal brand. Eghbal said some of the most widely sought after engineers are “building an active fanbase for whatever they are creating.”

    She added there are “different types of open source projects” with passionate fandoms, like Rust, plus open source developers have “a lot in common” with other types of online content creators. These public displays can lead to dramatic Twitter feuds and heated rivalries, just like other personality-driven roles like TikTok stars and podcasters.

    “I’ve been told so many things are definitely, absolutely true, yet are all conflicting with each other,” Eghbal said of her research. “If I’ve learned anything it’s that developers have opinions.”

    This is why Diaz’s token-funded startup, Nym, is developing a privacy layer comparable to Tor, the latter of which she said is heavily reliant on government funding. In contrast, her startup Nym raised $2.5 million in a private token sale in 2019.

    “Tor offers different trade-offs,” Diaz said. “We built Nym and the applications on top can be messaging applications or cryptocurrency applications...using the infrastructure to protect their metadata in the sense the network can’t figure out what services you are accessing or what they might be doing with those services.”

    Motivations

    Diaz considers herself somewhat of an outsider to the open source developer community, like Eghbal. Their motivations are primarily research-oriented, because research is their job.

    Nym co-founders like Harry Halpin have more experience in (ideological) open source software development. Even coming from different perspectives, Halpin, Diaz and Eghbal all agreed that collaboration and interdependence are the crux of the open source development process.

    “Now instead of relying on a couple of other developers’ code you may now be relying on hundreds of thousands of people’s projects and you don’t even know who these people are,” Eghbal said.

    As such, Halpin said Nym works closely with teams contributing to other open source projects, like Rust, Cosmos and Zcash. In addition, his team often works with independent (quasi-celebrity) developers like Amir Taaki. Sometimes people contribute as a hobbyist or a user with specific needs, other times they are paid. There are many reasons why people work on cryptocurrency projects.

    “I think it would be great to have an infrastructure that could support privacy in a variety of applications,” Diaz said. “Cryptocurrency offers an option for the people who use the systems to fund them...Privacy technologies have been very difficult to market.”

    On the other hand, Eghbal described bitcoin as moving more slowly than some other cryptocurrency projects.

    “Trying to prioritize stability is a very different development style rather than allowing people to have lots and lots of features,” Eghbal said, describing Bitcoin as relatively “stable.”

    And even if the price of the asset never goes “to the moon,” perhaps continuing to provide reliable software tools can be a metric of success in itself.

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    BREAKDOWN: Rage Against the Economic Machine... The Best of the Breakdown July 2020 Aug 03, 2020
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    A recap show on wealth inequality, stock markets and taking it back featuring Jill Carlson, Michael Krieger, Daniel Lacalle, George Gammon and more.

    This episode is sponsored by Crypto.com, Bitstamp and Nexo.io.

    Today on the Brief:

    • The TikTok-Microsoft Deal
    • The Twitter hacker was 17
    • A changing of the guard for crypto hedge funds


    Our main discussion: recapping the best interviews of July 2020

    Despite a huge variety of perspectives and experiences, one theme shown through in Breakdown conversations in July: the disparity between the stock market and the real economy and a growing unwillingness of people to accept their place in the order.

    This show features clips from:

    • George Gammon - @GeorgeGammon
    • Daniel Lacalle - @dlacalle_IA
    • George Goncalves - @bondstrategist
    • Sahil Bloom - @SahilBloom
    • Tyrone Ross - @TR401
    • Tony Greer - @TgMacro
    • Jill Carlson - @jillruthcarlson
    • Michael Krieger - @LibertyBlitz
    • Sergey Nazarov - @SergeyNazarov

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    BREAKDOWN: For What Future Are We Building Bitcoin? Aug 02, 2020
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    A reading of Meltem Demirors new essay “Unintended Architecture” asks some key questions about intention setting for the future of Bitcoin.

    This episode is sponsored by Crypto.com, Bitstamp and Nexo.io.

    Bitcoin started as a rebellious, anti-establishment technology. In many parts of the world, and for many people, it remains exactly that.

    At the same time, however, there is a wave of traditionalists and institutional players moving into the space.

    Are they buying into the revolution, or are they trying to capture value while fitting the disruption into a box that maintains the current power structure they lead?

    Those are the key questions explored by Meltem Demirors in her new essay “Unintended Architecture.” The piece is our selection for this week’s “Long Reads Sunday.”

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    BREAKDOWN: Previewing the Economic Showdowns Coming This Fall Aug 01, 2020
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    From the size of a second round of stimulus to COVID-19 litigation to reshoring, last week previewed some key issues for the months to come.

    This episode is sponsored by Crypto.com, Bitstamp and Nexo.io.

    On this week’s edition of The Breakdown Weekly Recap, NLW argues the big story of the week was actually a set of smaller stories that preview the faultlines and economic debates likely to absorb us in the coming months.

    These include:

    • The Federal Reserve signaling that fiscal stimulus needs to do more
    • The beginning of the battles on fiscal stimulus
    • The introduction of the “not safe to vote” narrative
    • The Big Tech vs. The World fight
    • The beginning of coronavirus lawsuits
    • Back to school
    • Jobless claims getting worse
    • Kodak and reshoring


    This week on The Breakdown:

    Monday | SPACs 101: A Bubble, the Future or Both?

    Tuesday | How Real Is Bitcoin’s Rally? 8 Interpretations of Bitcoin’s Massive Surge

    Wednesday | How DeFi Could Disrupt Traditional Finance, Feat. Sergey Nazarov

    Thursday | The Bond Market Is the Truth Teller No One Heeds, Feat. George Goncalves

    Friday | What a Professional Trader Thinks of the Fed, Robinhood and Real Estate, Feat. Tony Greer

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    LEIGH: Why This Sex Industry Executive Loves Bitcoin Aug 01, 2020
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    Chaturbate executive Shirely Lara is a sex industry veteran who sees bitcoin as a crucial part of her business. The bitcoin-friendly porn executive talks with CoinDesk reporter Leigh Cuen about bitcoin, sex and feminism.

    This episode is sponsored by Crypto.com, Bitstamp and Nexo.io.

    Chaturbate COO Shirley Lara, one of the most experienced platform executives in the adult content industry, has been keen on bitcoin’s potential since 2018.

    “We accept 20 different cryptocurrencies for token purchases. The most popular ones are bitcoin, ethereum and litecoin,” Lara said.

    Experts, including Lara, estimate there “thousands and thousands” of cam girls working across platforms like OnlyFan and Chaturbate at any given time. That dwarfs the incumbent porn industry. Today, OnlyFans alone is estimated to have 60,000 content creator accounts and millions of registered viewers, despite some criticism from sex workers on Twitter.

    Many of the leading sex industry corporations, like OnlyFans, Chaturbate and MindGeek, appear to be owned by (relatively secretive) men, who are far removed from the public performers. Lara, who joined Chaturbate in 2011, is one of the rare examples of a woman who worked her way up to the executive level without first creating a personal porn star brand. Her work is primarily technical and operational.

    “I don’t think crypto is a trend. I think it’s definitely here to stay,” Lara said, noting the steady incline of bitcoin usage among performers in Colombia and Romania. “They’ll use cryptocurrency as a way to jump on [Chaturbate] and get started while they figure out the banking stuff.”

    Meanwhile, her global operations allow performers like Honey Li, in Europe, to stack sats through Chaturbate. Li said a little bit of her earnings, in addition to whatever she needs to pay bills, is set aside as bitcoin savings. For Lara, having this choice was crucial to the platform’s crypto integrations.

    “You asked if we hold on to bitcoin? We don’t. We cash out. But our broadcasters do (hodl), and I think that is so smart,” Lara said.

    With porn production stalled or canceled in hubs like Miami, Las Vegas and Los Angeles, the entire sex industry is shifting geographies.

    More performers are relying on social media to broadcast from home. Bitcoin may now offer a different use case for platform performers versus high-end escorts, for example. The sex industry is hardly a monolith.

    Tech tools

    While social porn platforms inspire more mainstream content creators to dabble in adult themes, this further divides in-person service providers and filmmakers.

    One such provider, Nina Mona, has been using bitcoin in the sex industry for two years. For her, she emphasizes bitcoin privacy tech, which would be irrelevant for users who already submit know-your-customer information to a central platform. She uses bitcoin to accept payments and also to pay advertisers without sharing her credit card information.

    “I noticed a wave of OnlyFans signups when in-person work became less viable. I considered it, but don’t think the return is worth the workload or risk of exposure for me,” Mona said. “It seems safer to limit myself to a small set of screened clients than to share compromising material with a broader and less invested audience. Every set of eyeballs is an additional threat.”

    In the United States, Mona said most clients that book sessions with bitcoin resided in the Bay Area, Los Angeles or New York. Now that COVID-19 sparked some domestic migration, it’s unclear how this will impact sex workers who focused on urban hubs. For some, this means more travel and extremely selective bookings.

    Performers and escorts may both operate their own wallets, even if they use platforms like OnlyFans or Chaturbate, especially to receive gifts and tributes from afar. Plus, Lara said the teledildonics trend, where internet-connected sex toys can be set to vibrate when their accounts receive payments, create new opportunities for clients to incorporate money into their fantasies.

    “There’s this whole teledildonics spectrum that is growing in popularity,” she said. Li agreed with Lara, especially because there are toys for both genders that can be used in synchronized ways.

    “I use teledildonic toys for work, basically every shift!” Li said. “They're tip-activated when I work...You can also sync the vibrations up to a spotify account or a voice note sent by your partner.”

    Slow growth

    Mainstream platforms like Chaturbate and the competitor FanCentro already accept cryptocurrency and have been working with it for years. Usage is niche, yet steady.

    Many sex workers say a direct transaction and relationship is more profitable than payment facilitated by a platform. Chaturbate, for example, charges nearly half of the performer’s earnings. It provides a valuable service, but clients will need to be willing to pay in bitcoin if the performer aims to graduate to her own independent site.

    “If we’re headed that way, it’s going to be a long time before we hit that milestone, because of the different governance in each country,” Lara said.

    One FanCentro user and crypto owner, who goes by the alias WesMan83, said he would be happy to pay a sex worker directly in crypto if she preferred. He finds erotic service-providers that suit him using mainstream platforms like Twitter and OnlyFans, as well as personal recommendations from other clients and providers.

    “I think it's important for people to understand that sex workers deserve to be paid for what they do and there is nothing wrong with what they do,” WesMan83 said. “They provide an entertainment service and work very hard for what they create. I think it's important that those of us who are proud to pay, help remove the stigma surrounding it.”

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