Show notes
How should Democrats campaign on climate? Some are quietly shelving climate-specific language ahead of the midterms in favor of terms like “energy crisis” and “affordability.” But Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island has been talking about climate change on the Senate floor for more than a decade, and he has no plans to stop now.
“The most important thing that can be accomplished on the climate front is to end the pollute-for-free business model of the fossil fuel industry. It is morally wrong, it is economically wrong, it is an environmental sin, and there's literally no merit to it, which is why the fossil fuel industry has to prop it up with all this dark money and lies,” he says.
Plus, geothermal energy is having a moment – getting interest from data center developers and support from the Trump administration at a time when other renewable energy sources are getting the ax. What should we expect from the industry in the next five years?
Guests:
Sheldon Whitehouse, U.S. Senator (D-RI)
Jamie Beard, Founder and Executive Director, Project Innerspace
Highlights:
00:00 – Introduction
02:00 – Sen. Whitehouse on his “Time to Wake Up” speeches
05:40 – Influence of the Citizens United decision on bipartisan climate action
07:45 – Progress on permitting reform bill
12:50 – Climate hushing and its impact on the midtems
14:00 – People want to hear more about climate change
18:00 – Off-shore wind projects getting on the grid in Rhode Island
23:00 – Sen. Whitehouse on data centers and their impacts
27:30 – What’s possible if Democrats win big at midterms
34:40 – Jamie Beard gives update on the state of the geothermal energy industry
43:30 – The odd and complicated politics of Trump administration supporting geothermal
46:00 – Potential impact of Geothermal Energy Advancement Act
51:00 – Geothermal’s bigger price is heat, not electricity
58:00 – Climate One More Thing
For transcripts, show notes, and related links, visit our episode page.
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