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    City Manager Unfiltered

    City Manager Unfiltered is a podcast by a city manager for city managers. I am your host, Joe Turner, and I’m on a mission to build a community for ambitious city managers.

    I want to provide you with the career tools and resources to help make you a better executive so you can rack up victories, polish your resume, dominate interviews, land your dream job, and win your contract negotiations.

    If you are a city manager looking to level up, check out my podcast, City Manager Unfiltered. Hit that subscribe button today so you don’t miss an episode.

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    Part 2: Fire/EMS Staffing & Deployment Models with Tim Nowak | Ep. 104 Apr 30, 2025
    Show notes

    This is the second installment of my three part interview series with Fire/EMS consultant Tim Nowak. The primary purpose of this series is to create an introductory primer and give local elected officials and taxpayers a 30,000 foot level overview of the major issues that must be considered when evaluating fire/EMS service in your communities.

    My hope is that city and county managers, fire chiefs, and other public sector executives will find our attempt to break this complex issue down into manageable chunks for your various stakeholders useful in your efforts to facilitate discussions on this topic.

    SHOW NOTES

    Tim Nowak's LinkedIn page

    You can find my previous interview with Tim in Episode 40 here.

    Link to Chris Mann's GOV360 Podcast

    Link to join the AAME membership waitlist

    AAME JOB BOARD:

    The American Association of Municipal Executives has a free job board exclusively focused on executive and senior level local government recruitments. To post a job, go to: https://jobs.aame.org/

    SUPPORT THE PODCAST:

    1. Subscribe to my FREE weekly newsletter hosted on LinkedIn. It is called the "City Manager News & Job Board" newsletter and can be found here: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/city-manager-rtrs-job-board-7164683251112992768/
    2. If you would like to support the podcast by making a donation, please use the "Buy Me A Coffee" link.
    3. Please rate and review the podcast on Apple or your preferred platform if you enjoy the show. It helps tremendously. But more importantly, refer your friends and peers to podcast through personal conversations and posts on your social media platforms.

    Joe Turner's LinkedIn Page

    City Manager Unfiltered YouTube Page - Subscribe Today!

    Note: Page may contain affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.


    Part 1: Fire/EMS Operational & Organizational Models with Tim Nowak | Ep. 103 Apr 23, 2025
    Show notes

    This is the first installment of my three part interview series with Fire/EMS consultant Tim Nowak. The primary purpose of this series is to create an introductory primer and give local elected officials and taxpayers a 30,000 foot level overview of the major issues that must be considered when evaluating fire/EMS service in your communities.

    My hope is that city and county managers, fire chiefs, and other public sector executives will find our attempt to break this complex issue down into manageable chunks for your various stakeholders useful in your efforts to facilitate discussions on this topic.

    SHOW NOTES

    Tim Nowak's LinkedIn page

    You can find my previous interview with Tim in Episode 40 here.

    AAME JOB BOARD:

    The American Association of Municipal Executives has a free job board exclusively focused on executive and senior level local government recruitments. To post a job, go to: https://jobs.aame.org/

    SUPPORT THE PODCAST:

    1. Subscribe to my FREE weekly newsletter hosted on LinkedIn. It is called the "City Manager News & Job Board" newsletter and can be found here: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/city-manager-rtrs-job-board-7164683251112992768/
    2. If you would like to support the podcast by making a donation, please use the "Buy Me A Coffee" link.
    3. Please rate and review the podcast on Apple or your preferred platform if you enjoy the show. It helps tremendously. But more importantly, refer your friends and peers to podcast through personal conversations and posts on your social media platforms.

    Joe Turner's LinkedIn Page

    City Manager Unfiltered YouTube Page - Subscribe Today!

    Note: Page may contain affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.


    Handling the Tsunami of Empty Churches with Rick Reinhard | Ep. 102 Apr 16, 2025
    Show notes

    Richard "Rick" Reinhard is one of the leading experts when it comes to analyzing and repurposing church real estate in America.

    In this episode, Rick talks about the great emptying of churches and how this negatively impacts communities. In one of the undergraduate courses he teaches, he has referred to this epidemic as "spiritual brownfields."

    We talk about what can be done to convert and repurpose these decaying vacant or soon to become vacant structures and why city managers and local elected officials need to put this issue on their radar.

    SHOW NOTES

    Rick Reinhard's LinkedIn page

    He is the principal consultant for Niagara Consulting Group.

    AAME JOB BOARD:

    The American Association of Municipal Executives has a free job board exclusively focused on executive and senior level local government recruitments. To post a job, go to: https://jobs.aame.org/

    SUPPORT THE PODCAST:

    1. Subscribe to my FREE weekly newsletter hosted on LinkedIn. It is called the "City Manager News & Job Board" newsletter and can be found here: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/city-manager-rtrs-job-board-7164683251112992768/
    2. If you would like to support the podcast by making a donation, please use the "Buy Me A Coffee" link.
    3. Please rate and review the podcast on Apple or your preferred platform if you enjoy the show. It helps tremendously. But more importantly, refer your friends and peers to podcast through personal conversations and posts on your social media platforms.

    Joe Turner's LinkedIn Page

    City Manager Unfiltered YouTube Page - Subscribe Today!

    Note: Page may contain affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.


    Mike Grabianowski: Don't Get Screwed on Your CIP Projects (Part 2) | Ep. 101 Apr 09, 2025
    Show notes

    In this two part series, I interview Mike Grabianowski who has many years of experience monitoring and auditing construction projects. As an employee of Georgia Pacific, a subsidiary of Koch Industries, Mike was tasked with ensuring his company was not overbilled whenever it hired contractors to complete projects.

    These projects, which could exceed $100 million, were put under a microscope by Mike and his team and he's learned many of the "tricks of the trades" over the years.

    Now -- he's hung his own shingle and opened his own consulting firm to leverage this knowledge. And he wants to bring his knowledge and skills to the public sector.

    In this episode, we examine how Mike and his company can help city managers and department heads on their major capital improvement projects and protect them and the taxpayers from being taken advantage of by vendors.

    SHOW NOTES

    Mike Grabianowski's LinkedIn Profile

    Link to Grabianowski & Associates website

    AAME JOB BOARD:

    The American Association of Municipal Executives has a free job board exclusively focused on executive and senior level local government recruitments. To post a job, go to: https://jobs.aame.org/

    SUPPORT THE PODCAST:

    1. Subscribe to my FREE weekly newsletter hosted on LinkedIn. It is called the "City Manager News & Job Board" newsletter and can be found here: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/city-manager-rtrs-job-board-7164683251112992768/
    2. If you would like to support the podcast by making a donation, please use the "Buy Me A Coffee" link.
    3. Please rate and review the podcast on Apple or your preferred platform if you enjoy the show. It helps tremendously. But more importantly, refer your friends and peers to podcast through personal conversations and posts on your social media platforms.

    Joe Turner's LinkedIn Page

    City Manager Unfiltered YouTube Page - Subscribe Today!

    Note: Page may contain affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.


    Ep. 100 | Mike Grabianowski: Don't Get Screwed on Your CIP Projects (Part 1) Apr 02, 2025
    Show notes

    In this two part series, I interview Mike Grabianowski who has many years of experience monitoring and auditing construction projects. As an employee of Georgia Pacific, a subsidiary of Koch Industries, Mike was tasked with ensuring his company was not overbilled whenever it hired contractors to complete projects.

    These projects, which could exceed $100 million, were put under a microscope by Mike and his team and he's learned many of the "tricks of the trades" over the years.

    Now -- he's hung his own shingle and opened his own consulting firm to leverage this knowledge. And he wants to bring his knowledge and skills to the public sector.

    In this episode, we examine how Mike and his company can help city managers and department heads on their major capital improvement projects and protect them and the taxpayers from being taken advantage of by vendors.

    SHOW NOTES

    Mike Grabianowski's LinkedIn Profile

    Link to Grabianowski & Associates website

    AAME JOB BOARD:

    The American Association of Municipal Executives has a free job board exclusively focused on executive and senior level local government recruitments. To post a job, go to: https://jobs.aame.org/

    SUPPORT THE PODCAST:

    1. Subscribe to my FREE weekly newsletter hosted on LinkedIn. It is called the "City Manager News & Job Board" newsletter and can be found here: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/city-manager-rtrs-job-board-7164683251112992768/
    2. If you would like to support the podcast by making a donation, please use the "Buy Me A Coffee" link.
    3. Please rate and review the podcast on Apple or your preferred platform if you enjoy the show. It helps tremendously. But more importantly, refer your friends and peers to podcast through personal conversations and posts on your social media platforms.

    Joe Turner's LinkedIn Page

    City Manager Unfiltered YouTube Page - Subscribe Today!

    Note: Page may contain affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.


    Let's Talk About My Night in Jail | Ep. 99 Mar 26, 2025
    Show notes

    In the previous episode, I discussed the circumstances surrounding my arrest related to the performance of my duties as an assistant county administrator in Florida

    In this episode, I discuss my night in a Walton County jail.

    AAME JOB BOARD:

    The American Association of Municipal Executives has a free job board exclusively focused on executive and senior level local government recruitments. To post a job, go to: https://jobs.aame.org/

    SUPPORT THE PODCAST:

    1. Subscribe to my FREE weekly newsletter hosted on LinkedIn. It is called the "City Manager News & Job Board" newsletter and can be found here: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/city-manager-rtrs-job-board-7164683251112992768/
    2. If you would like to support the podcast by making a donation, please use the "Buy Me A Coffee" link.
    3. Please rate and review the podcast on Apple or your preferred platform if you enjoy the show. It helps tremendously. But more importantly, refer your friends and peers to podcast through personal conversations and posts on your social media platforms.

    Joe Turner's LinkedIn Page

    City Manager Unfiltered YouTube Page - Subscribe Today!

    Note: Page may contain affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.


    Let's Talk About My Arrest in Florida | Ep. 98 Mar 19, 2025
    Show notes

    Two weeks ago, I drove across the country to turn myself in on an arrest warrant out of Walton County, Florida. I am facing two third degree felony charges related to carrying out my duties as the assistant county administrator.

    Though I am innocent until proven guilty and I am confident that I will prevail in court -- I also recognize that in the court of public opinion one is often seen as guilty until proven innocent.

    As someone who prides himself on being transparent and unafraid of facing difficult circumstances and challenges head on -- I wanted to give those who follow me more information and greater context about the circumstances that have brought me and my former boss, who is also facing the same charges, to this point in time.

    Make no mistake -- we were two outsiders who posed as an existential threat to the status quo in Walton County.

    In December 2023, we blew the whistle and asked the Walton County Sheriff's Office to investigate various matters.

    Unfortunately, the justice system has been weaponized against us and we are now the victims of political lawfare.

    AAME JOB BOARD:

    The American Association of Municipal Executives has a free job board exclusively focused on executive and senior level local government recruitments. To post a job, go to: https://jobs.aame.org/

    SUPPORT THE PODCAST:

    1. Subscribe to my FREE weekly newsletter hosted on LinkedIn. It is called the "City Manager News & Job Board" newsletter and can be found here: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/city-manager-rtrs-job-board-7164683251112992768/
    2. If you would like to support the podcast by making a donation, please use the "Buy Me A Coffee" link.
    3. Please rate and review the podcast on Apple or your preferred platform if you enjoy the show. It helps tremendously. But more importantly, refer your friends and peers to podcast through personal conversations and posts on your social media platforms.

    Joe Turner's LinkedIn Page

    City Manager Unfiltered YouTube Page - Subscribe Today!

    Note: Page may contain affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.


    From Police Chief to City Manager with Matt Jensby | Ep. 97 Mar 05, 2025
    Show notes

    After a lengthy and successful career in law enforcement where he served as the police chief for the fastest growing community in Kansas, Matt Jensby had a desire to become a city manager and serve the public in a different way. In this episode, Matt talks about this transition and becoming the city manager for Kechi, a small community north of Wichita.

    He explains the significant differences between being a department head versus the leader of an entire organization and how much of an eye-opening experience it has been for him in his first year as a new city manager.

    SHOW NOTES

    Matt Jensby's LinkedIn Profile

    EPISODE SPONSOR:

    This episode is sponsored by Holbrook Asphalt.

    Maintaining your roads is one of the most difficult tasks for any city government. The good news is the secret to making it easier is only 3 letters: H-A-5.

    HA5 extends the life of roads and reduces the financial burden on taxpayers. HA5 is an innovative pavement preservation treatment trusted by over 300 public agencies. It keeps good roads in good condition, reducing repair costs and saving taxpayer dollars.

    Join the hundreds of other cities making the smart choice. Choose HA5 for longer-lasting roads and a healthier budget.

    Learn more at holbrookasphalt.com/city.

    AAME JOB BOARD:

    The American Association of Municipal Executives has a free job board exclusively focused on executive and senior level local government recruitments. To post a job, go to: https://jobs.aame.org/

    SUPPORT THE PODCAST:

    1. Subscribe to my FREE weekly newsletter hosted on LinkedIn. It is called the "City Manager News & Job Board" newsletter and can be found here: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/city-manager-rtrs-job-board-7164683251112992768/
    2. If you would like to support the podcast by making a donation, please use the "Buy Me A Coffee" link.
    3. Please rate and review the podcast on Apple or your preferred platform if you enjoy the show. It helps tremendously. But more importantly, refer your friends and peers to podcast through personal conversations and posts on your social media platforms.

    Joe Turner's LinkedIn Page

    City Manager Unfiltered YouTube Page - Subscribe Today!

    Note: Page may contain affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.


    Donald Duncan: Lessons from Hurricane Helene (Part 2) | Ep. 96 Feb 26, 2025
    Show notes

    Caldwell County Manager Donald Duncan and his team were about as prepared as one could be for a natural disaster the size and scope of Hurricane Helene. But even still -- there were lessons to be learned and shared in the aftermath of this storm.

    In Part 2 of this series, Donald talks about the personal toll this disaster had on him and his staff. We talked about survivors' guilt and how total destruction of the landscape and physical landmarks can cause mass societal depression. We also talked about the multitude of lessons he learned not just in how to respond to a natural disaster but how to lead his team.

    He has also provided us with a checklist for you and your team to review.

    I guarantee you will come away with some nuggets of wisdom from the final installment of this two-part series and that you will be able to go back to your team and better prepare for your next natural or man-made disaster. If you have the misfortune of sharing Donald's fate -- you will be exposed to both.

    SHOW NOTES

    Donald Duncan's LinkedIn page and link to his disaster preparedness checklist.

    Founding members of the AAME have exclusive, first priority rights to sign up for the first annual conference. Seating is extremely limited with only 150 seats available.
    The conference is being held in El Cajon, California from June 25-27th. Please sign up and register in the AAME community.
    After the 14th, it will be opened up to anyone who wants to attend. AAME will be re-opening membership very soon. If you would like to get on the wait list you are encouraged to go to this link and sign up today: https://app.youform.com/forms/f9ulo0uh

    EPISODE SPONSOR:

    This episode is sponsored by Holbrook Asphalt.

    Maintaining your roads is one of the most difficult tasks for any city government. The good news is the secret to making it easier is only 3 letters: H-A-5.

    HA5 extends the life of roads and reduces the financial burden on taxpayers. HA5 is an innovative pavement preservation treatment trusted by over 300 public agencies. It keeps good roads in good condition, reducing repair costs and saving taxpayer dollars.

    Join the hundreds of other cities making the smart choice. Choose HA5 for longer-lasting roads and a healthier budget.

    Learn more at holbrookasphalt.com/city.

    AAME JOB BOARD:

    The American Association of Municipal Executives has a free job board exclusively focused on executive and senior level local government recruitments. To post a job, go to: https://jobs.aame.org/

    SUPPORT THE PODCAST:

    1. Subscribe to my FREE weekly newsletter hosted on LinkedIn. It is called the "City Manager News & Job Board" newsletter and can be found here: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/city-manager-rtrs-job-board-7164683251112992768/
    2. If you would like to support the podcast by making a donation, please use the "Buy Me A Coffee" link.
    3. Please rate and review the podcast on Apple or your preferred platform if you enjoy the show. It helps tremendously. But more importantly, refer your friends and peers to podcast through personal conversations and posts on your social media platforms.

    Joe Turner's LinkedIn Page

    City Manager Unfiltered YouTube Page - Subscribe Today!

    Note: Page may contain affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.


    Donald Duncan: Lessons from Hurricane Helene (Part 1) | Ep. 95 Feb 19, 2025
    Show notes

    Caldwell County Manager Donald Duncan and his team were about as prepared as one could be for a natural disaster the size and scope of Hurricane Helene. But even still -- there were lessons to be learned and shared in the aftermath of this storm.

    In this riveting interview series, Donald gives us a rundown of the good, the bad, and the ugly when it comes to disaster response and preparedness. He has also provided us with a checklist for you and your team to review.

    I guarantee you will come away with some nuggets of wisdom from this two-part series and that you will be able to go back to your team and better prepare for your next natural or man-made disaster. If you have the misfortune of sharing Donald's fate -- you will be exposed to both.

    SHOW NOTES

    Donald Duncan's LinkedIn page and link to his disaster preparedness checklist.

    Founding members of the AAME have exclusive, first priority rights to sign up for the first annual conference. Seating is extremely limited with only 150 seats available.
    The conference is being held in El Cajon, California from June 25-27th. Please sign up and register in the AAME community.
    After the 14th, it will be opened up to anyone who wants to attend. AAME will be re-opening membership very soon. If you would like to get on the wait list you are encouraged to go to this link and sign up today: https://app.youform.com/forms/f9ulo0uh

    EPISODE SPONSOR:

    This episode is sponsored by Holbrook Asphalt.

    Maintaining your roads is one of the most difficult tasks for any city government. The good news is the secret to making it easier is only 3 letters: H-A-5.

    HA5 extends the life of roads and reduces the financial burden on taxpayers. HA5 is an innovative pavement preservation treatment trusted by over 300 public agencies. It keeps good roads in good condition, reducing repair costs and saving taxpayer dollars.

    Join the hundreds of other cities making the smart choice. Choose HA5 for longer-lasting roads and a healthier budget.

    Learn more at holbrookasphalt.com/city.

    AAME JOB BOARD:

    The American Association of Municipal Executives has a free job board exclusively focused on executive and senior level local government recruitments. To post a job, go to: https://jobs.aame.org/

    SUPPORT THE PODCAST:

    1. Subscribe to my FREE weekly newsletter hosted on LinkedIn. It is called the "City Manager News & Job Board" newsletter and can be found here: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/city-manager-rtrs-job-board-7164683251112992768/
    2. If you would like to support the podcast by making a donation, please use the "Buy Me A Coffee" link.
    3. Please rate and review the podcast on Apple or your preferred platform if you enjoy the show. It helps tremendously. But more importantly, refer your friends and peers to podcast through personal conversations and posts on your social media platforms.

    Joe Turner's LinkedIn Page

    City Manager Unfiltered YouTube Page - Subscribe Today!

    Note: Page may contain affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.


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