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    Citizen Detective

    Citizen Detective is hosted by Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and cold case analyst Dr. Lee Mellor. Each episode of Citizen Detective is recorded live alongside armchair detectives and Citizen Sleuths, and the team is joined by special guests and experts from the world of true crime in an effort to crowd-solve perplexing mysteries and cold cases

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    The Zodiac Killer Part 2 Apr 22, 2023
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    Episode 21 The Zodiac Killer Part 2
    In the second part of our Zodiac Killer coverage, we explore 2 separate attacks. First we examine the September 1969 attack on Cecelia Shepard and Bryan Hartnell in which the killer wore an executioner's hood while he repeatedly stabbed the couple in broad daylight at Napa County's tranquil Lake Berryessa. Next we look at the October, 1969 murder of cab driver Paul Stine in which he shot Stine in San Francisco's most upscale neighborhood signaling a departure from the couple's normal MO of targeting younger couples. After the murder of Paul Stine, there was never a confirmed Zodiac attack again.
    We are joined by GeoProfiler Douglas MacGregor who provides us with analysis of the Zodiac's crime locations
    Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes.
    To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.
    Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod
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    Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com
    To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective
    Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths:
    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/
    The Citizen Detective team includes:
    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective


    The Zodiac Killer Part 1 Apr 08, 2023
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    Episode 20 The Zodiac Killer Part 1
    On December 20, 1968, just after 11pm, 2 teenagers David Faraday and Betty Lou Jensen were parked on sleepy and dark Lake Herman Rd on the outskirts of Vallejo, CA. The spot where they parked was one often chosen by young people to due it's privacy. On this night, they weren't alone. A killer pulled up beside their car. What happened next is not known, but what is known is that minutes later, a woman driving by the scene found both of them shot lying near David's car. She raced off to get help and brought police back to the scene. Responding officers found David barely clinging to life. He had been shot once behind the ear at close range. 28 feet away, Betty Lou lay dead, the victim of multiple shots to her back. The randomness of the double murder and clear lack of a motive cast a dark cloud over the coming Christmas holiday. As the holidays passed, the murders faded from memory.
    Seven months later, on the night of July 4, 1969, just a few miles away from where David and Betty Lou had been killed, Darlene Ferrin and Mike Mageau sat talking on a different Lover's lane area in Vallejo; Blue Rock Springs park. Their peaceful night was interrupted around Midnight when a car pulled in behind them. It's driver exited the vehicle and carrying a flashlight, walked up to the passenger side of Darlene's Corvair. WIthout warning, the man shined the flashlight into the car and opened fire shooting Darlene and Mike multiple times. He walked back to his car not realizing that his victims were still alive. When Mike cried out in pain, the shooter came back to the car and shot both Mike and Darlene additional times. He then walked back to his car and drove off leaving Darlene in Mike badly injured. First responders rushed Mike and Darlene from the scene. Darlene would not survive her injuries. While Mike was badly injured, he would recover and provide police with a few details. While police were processing the scene 40 minutes after the shooting, a caller using a phonebooth in Vallejo called the operator and reported the attack. But he wasn't a witness, he was the shooter, and he provided details of his crime. He also took credit for the 1968 Lake Herman Rd murders. But the killer was far from done, and from that moment on, using the moniker 'The Zodiac', he would terrorize the SF Bay area for the nect 5 years.
    This is part 1 of a multi-episode deep dive into one of America's greatest unsolved mysteries; the Zodiac Murders
    Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes.
    To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.
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    Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com
    To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective
    Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths:
    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/
    The Citizen Detective team includes:
    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective


    Cheri Jo Bates Mar 25, 2023
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    Episode 19 Cheri Jo Bates
    On October 30, 1966, 18 year old college Freshman Cheri Jo Bates was brutally murdered on her college campus at Riverside City College in Riverside, CA. She was savagely stabbed and her throat slashed. Her murder shocked the quiet Southern CA city. Residents wondered who would kill the pretty and popular cheerleader. Police theorized that Cheri's killer disabled her VW Bug while Cheri was in the college library and when she came out to leave and found her car disabled, the killer came along acting as a good samaritan and offering help. After gaining Cheri's trust, he led her to a dimly lit alley between two abandoned homes on school property and initiated his attack. 30 days after Cheri Jo was killed, an anonymous typed letter was sent to police & the local press claiming responsibility for Cheri Jo's murder. Police initially believed that the confession letter contained details only the killer could know, but in reality, much of what was in the letter was published in AP news stories about the case. Additional letters would come in Cheri Jo's case 6 months after her murder. This time the hand scrawled letters were sent to not only to police and the press, but cruelly, also to Cheri Jo's father.
    The Riverside Police locked onto a suspect that they felt was a jilted suitor of Cheri Jo's. He was never identified publicly, but was given the moniker 'Bob Barnett' in online discussions of the case. For years, police were interested in this suspect, but did not have enough to build a case against him. Complicating matters, he moved out of the country. When the suspect returned to the US for a visit, police swooped in and obtained his DNA for comparison against DNA in Cheri Jo's case. It seems that the DNA collected from the suspect did not match DNA in the Bates case. But that did not stop Riverside PD from pursuing a case against their favorite suspect.
    In 1970, a tipster in Riverside read a story about the infamous Zodiac Killer attacks and letters happening in the SF Bay area over 400 miles North of Riverside. Feeling that Cheri's case may be connected to the Zodiac crimes, the tipster reached out to SF Chronicle reporter Paul Avery asking him to see if the cases may be connected. Avery came away convinced that Cheri Jo's case was connected to the Zodiac case. The state's top handwriting expert Sherwood Morrill agreed that writing on letters in the Bates case matched writing in the Zodiac case. Police however were split on the conclusion. While investigators in the Zodiac case were open to the possibility that Cheri Jo Bates was an early Zodiac victim, Riverside PS dismissed the idea, instead focusing on their favorite suspect. Decades later, Cheri Jo's case and the Zodiac case remain hopelessly intertwined, and both are still unsolved.
    Was Cheri Jo an early Zodiac victim? Or was she the victim of a jilted suitor as Riverside PD suspects? In this episode, the team dives into the clues and evidence; evidence which contains DNA that's half a century old. Can this case be solved, or is it destined to remain a mystery? Tune in to this episode to find out.
    Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes.
    To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.
    Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod
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    Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com
    To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective
    Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths:
    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/
    The Citizen Detective team includes:
    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective


    The Night Marauder Mar 11, 2023
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    Episode 18 The Night Marauder
    Between 1919 and 1926, a serial predator attacked, raped, and murdered a string of victims in the Knoxville and Alcoa areas of Tennessee. Despite people being on high alert, the attacker who came to be known as the 'Night Marauder' slipped through the cracks under the cover of night looking for victims. At first, he targeted lone women, but then became more brazen and attacked when their were multiple people in one home, or when a husband was home. There were a few people accused of the crime, and one very promising suspect, but the case was never solved.
    In this episode, the team discusses the case and what clues or evidence there was, and whether or not there is enough to solve the case once and for all. We are joined by GeoProfiler; Douglas MacGregor and Dr. Nancy Locklin-Sofer who has worked extensively on this case.
    Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes.
    To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.
    Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod
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    Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w
    Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com
    To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective
    Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths:
    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/
    The Citizen Detective team includes:
    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective


    The Short Family Murders Feb 25, 2023
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    Episode 17 The Short Family Murders
    In August 2002, a brutal double murder shocked the residents of the Oak Level community in Henry County, Virginia. Michael and Mary Short were found dead in their home, the victims of an execution style shooting. There was no sign of robbery as cash and other valuable items were in the home. What was missing however was the Short's 9 year old daughter, Jennifer. A search of the area failed to locate her and despite an Amber alert going out, there were no signs of her.
    As police worked to figure out who murdered this average Virginia family and presumably abducted the youngest member, the community feared that a killer was moving amongst them and was on edge. Six weeks later, a horiffic discovery would take the case in a new direction. Jennifer's decomposed remains were located on a property in Stoneville NC, about 30 miles from the Short home. Like her parents, Jennifer too had been shot to death. An autopsy could not reveal if she has been sexually assaulted.
    News of the triple murder spread like wild fire through the area between where the Shorts lived, and where Jennifer's remains were found, and soon a potential suspect would emerge. A tip led authorities to investigate a man who lived not far from where Jennifer's remains were found. What tipsters told police about this potential suspect sounded almost too hard to believe, That's because it was.The tipsters had made up a story about this man and police spent time and resources investigating him.
    The case went cold. Along the way, it was revealed that local police investigating the case were caught up in a string of illegal activities that overshadowed the investigation into the Short Family Murders. New leadership within the police department aided by the State Police & FBI vowed to keep trying to solve the case. One of the few clues police had to work with was a mysterious man in a distinct truck seen parked close to the Short home shortly after the murders. The man described as a White Male in his 40s was seen sitting in a White Single Cab truck with wooden side rails. Police wanted to talk to this man, but he was never identified.
    Today, more than 20 years after the murders of the Short Family, the case remains unsolved.
    If you or someone you know has any new details regarding this case you can contact the FBI tip line at 1-800-225-5324 or call crime stoppers at 276-632-7463 or 336-349-9683.
    In this episode, the team discusses the clues, and possible evidence that may one day reveal the killer or killers of the Short Family.
    Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes.
    To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.
    Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod
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    Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w
    Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com
    To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective
    Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths:
    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/
    The Citizen Detective team includes:
    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective


    The Mary Morris Murders Feb 11, 2023
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    Episode 16 The Mary Morris Murders
    On October 12, 2000, Mary Henderson Morris, a 48 year old bank loan officer didn't show up for work.
    The Baytown, Houston area woman was very professional, and very reliable, so her co-workers were alarmed. When her husband Jay Morris became aware that she didn't show up for work, police were called in to look for Mary. According to Jay Morris, his wife had left that morning for work after 6am as usual, and nothing was amiss. Hours later, Mary Morris was found dead in her burning car in a secluded area 3 miles from her home. The fire was so intense, that it took days to identify the body inside as that of Mary Morris, and her cause of death could not be determined. Because a powerful accelerant had been used to start the fire, police suspected that Mary was the victim of a homicide from the beginning, but they were stumped and could not find anyone who had a motive to kill the friendly and professional mother and grandmother. Days later, when Mary's daughter Marilyn went to pick up her mother's effects following the funeral, the mystery took a bizarre turn.
    Marilyn was told that they were not done processing her mom's remains. She was confused after just burying her mom. After some checking, the authorities confirmed that the remains still in their custody were that of a different Mary Morris; 39 year old Mary McGinnis Morris.
    Like Mary Henderson Morris, Mary McGinnis Morris was found dead less than 72 hours later in her vehicle in the Houston area. Mary McGinnis Morris, a nurse, had been shot to death. The gun used to kill her was found in her car, and it turned out that it belonged to her husband, Mike Morris. Mike Morris told police that he had given the gun to his wife for protection. Mary had had run-ins with a co worker and apparently was on edge. Police disclosed that a 911 call came in during the Mary McGinnis Morris's murder, and that the murder itself, or parts of it may have been recorded. Although police did not release the 911 call, they said it was chilling. As for Mike Morris, he had an alibi for the time of the murder; he was at a movie with his daughter Katy at the time of the murder.
    Suspicion fell on the husbands in both cases as is typical in these kinds of murders, but both men lawyered up. Things that they said and did after the murders along with holes in their stories were scrutinized. Other potential suspects were looked at, but to date, no arrests have been made in either case. After being featured in a popular episode of the hit show Unsolved Mysteries, the 'Mary Morris Murders' became a popular case to discuss on online forums like Reddit and Websleuths, and several podcasts have done episodes about the murders. All kinds of theories and rumors have popped up over the years, the most popular being that both women were killed by some sort of inept hitman, but at the end of the day, there is nothing that conclusively proves that.
    There are similarities in the two cases. Both women were well-liked professional women in the Houston area. They were of similar age and appearance. They had both been found dead in their cars less than 72 hours apart. It was reported that rings were missing from both women, but later that claim would be challenged when one of the rings turned up.
    The murders of both Mary Henderson Morris and Mary McGinnis Morris remain unsolved and are as popular as ever on discussion forums. Unfortuately, this has led to a lof of misconceptions, inaccuracies, and gossip. In this episode of Citizen Detective, listeners will hear directly from Mary Henderson Morris's daughter Marilyn, and Mary McGinnis Morris's daughter Katy, in an effort to once and for all separate fact from fiction, and help the panel sift through all the puzzling clues and details in the Mary Morris Murders.
    if you have information about the October, 2000 Houston area murders of Mary Henderson Morris or Mary McGinnis Morris, please call Houston Crime Stoppers at 713-222-TIPS
    Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes.
    To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.
    Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod
    Facebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast
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    Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w
    Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com
    To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective
    Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths:
    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/
    The Citizen Detective team includes:
    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective


    The Doodler Jan 28, 2023
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    Episode 15 The Doodler
    In the late 1960s and well into the 1970s, the historic city of San Francisco, CA was overwhelmed by high profile crimes including the Zodiac murders, the Zebra killings, and the SLA/Patty Hurst crime spree. But one series of murders there in the mid 70s failed to grab the public's attention. From January, 1974 until September, 1975, an unknown killer, or killers, quietly targeted San Francisco's gay community. The series of murders was dubbed 'The Doodler' murders, because one potential suspect was an unidentified African-American male who used to sketch portraits of men in local gay bars, perhaps to gain their trust. Despite all attempts to ID this person, police were unsuccessful, but they did discover a strong suspect who remains unnamed publicly.
    Murders attributed to the Doodler range from half a dozen to more than a dozen. Some possible victims however were said to be lucky enough to escape from the Doodler including a famous actor, and people from the political world.
    The Doodler case officially remains unsolved. Join the Citizen Detective team as we explore the clues in this case.
    Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes.
    To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media.
    Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod
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    Facebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915
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    Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w
    Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com
    To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective
    Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths:
    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/
    The Citizen Detective team includes:
    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective


    The Moscow Idaho Murders Jan 14, 2023
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    Episode 14 The Moscow Idaho Murders
    The college town of Moscow, Idaho a population of 25,000 people was shocked and on edge following the brutal November 13, 2022 quadruple murders of 4 college students in their off campus home.
    The victims Ethan Chapin, 20, Madison Mogen, 21; Xana Kernodle, 20, and Kaylee Goncalves, 21, were found stabbed to death in a bloody crime scene by other housemates.
    Police called the murders 'isolated' and 'targeted' and stated that the residents of Moscow were not in danger. But without motives, answers, or an arrest, the community feared for their safety and many students chose to leave the area rather than stay there and continue their studies.
    The case became front page news and the lead story nationwide as the press descended on Moscow. The police, aided by the FBI, scrambled to find the killer, but motives and leads were in short supply.
    Finally, a major clue came in the form of a White Hyundai captured on surveillance footage near the crime scene around the time of the attack. Police made a public plea for help in identifying the car.
    After more than 19,000 tips in the case, police finally made an arrest in late December on the other side of the country. . 28 year old Bryan Kohberger, was arrested in Pennsylvania, and charged with four counts of first degree murder, and one count of felony burglary. He's currently awaiting for a preliminary hearing which won't come until June, 2023.
    An affidavit shed some light on the investigation into Kohberger, but only scratches the surface. There are still a lot of unanswered questions, and theories. In this episode, the panel discusses what's been reported in the case, and mentioned in the affidavit, and discusses what evidence the authorities may have against the suspect. We also hear from our citizen detectives who share their takes on the case.
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    Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com
    To support this podcast on Patreon and gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and our after-show 'The Scrum' visit Patreon.com/CitizenDetective
    Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths:
    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/
    The Citizen Detective team includes:
    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective


    Cheryl Lynn Tunnell Springfield Dec 17, 2022
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    Episode 13 Cheryl Lynn Tunnell Springfield
    In this episode, the team explores the December 25, 1980 murder of 21 year old Cheryl Lynn Tunnell Springfield. Early that Christmas morning, she was found beaten and strangled to death near the Christmas tree in the Fort Worth, TX home that she had recently moved into. An ironing cord was still wrapped around her neck. Cheryl had been sexually assaulted.
    Just feet away from her in the next room, her young son was found unharmed. In another room, another child slept unharmed as well. Since it was her ex husband who found Cheryl, he became a suspect in the murder, but after cooperating with police, and taking polygraphs, he was ruled out.
    At Cheryl's funeral, her sister Jan promised Cheryl that she would not stop trying to find her killer, but despite her efforts, the case remains unsolved 42 years later.
    It came to light that one of Cheryl's roommates had been in a relationship with a violent man who she later married. He had a troubling history of violence; violence that included murder, and he is serving a life sentence in prison. Was he the killer, or a red herring? The team, joined by Cheryl's sister Jan, explores the evidence, and the possibilities.
    Fort Worth police are actively investigating Springfield's case. Anyone with information is asked to call the FWPD Cold Case Unit at 817-392-4307.
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    Katherine 'Katie' Janness Dec 03, 2022
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    Episode 12 Katherine 'Katie' Janness
    The big city of Atlanta, GA is a melting pot in many ways. With a population of half a million people, it's as diverse a city as you can find. There are countless people of every race, creed, and religion that call Atlanta home, and there is a very proud, and accpeted LGBTQ community there. Someplace in the big city of Atlanta, a sadistic and vicious killer has managed to get away so far with a brutal crime that shocked residents of Atlanta.
    In the early morning hours of July 28, 2021, 40 year old Atlanta resident Katherine 'Katie' Janness was murdered in the scrolling Piedmont park along with her beloved dog Bowie. Katie often walked Bowie in the park without incident, but on this occasion, she crossed paths with a cold blooded killer who savagelt stabbed Katie and Bowie to death. Katie was stabbed dozens of times.Even more shocking, her killer carved letters into her body.
    Sadly, it was Katie's girlfriend Emma who discovered Katie and Bowie dead. She had gone out to search the park for them after they didn't come home.
    In the aftermath of the murders, it came to light that many of the park's cameras were not working. Had they been operational, this case may be solved. The city has now taken steps to ensure that the park is secure and that cameras are working properly, but sadly, it's too late in this case.
    The news of the shocking murders of Katie and Bowie understandably left the community on edge, and some residents were wary of venturing out after dark fearing that a maniac was moving amongst them. But did Katie and Bowie die randomly at the hands of a deranged serial killer, or were they targeted by someone who was familiar with them? Could Katie have been killed in a hate crime because she was a Lesbian? Even Katie's girlfriend Emma has been accused of being involved, and police have not publicly cleared her.
    Unfortuately, there are many questions and possibilities, and not a lot that points in any one direction.
    Anyone with information about this case can call Crime Stoppers Atlanta at 404-577-8477
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