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    CFTROU 0140: Be Trustworthy Sep 28, 2021
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    CFTROU 0140: Be Trustworthy

    In this episode Pastor Jimmy and Leslee Bennett are joined by Pastor Winner Olmann to discuss another one of our Family Church Leadership Principles – to be trustworthy. We break down our definition of trustworthiness as the consistent demonstration of integrity in all that you do and say, sharing some examples and practical applications to help you build a strong team and implement appropriate guidelines within your organization. Tuning in, you’ll also learn more about the importance of predictability, under-promising and over-delivering, and honoring confidentiality, as well as the power of giving credit where credit is due.

    Key Points:

    • Defining ‘be trustworthy’: consistently demonstrating integrity in all that you do and say.

    • An example from the Book of Exodus 18:21 of how Moses demonstrated trustworthiness.

    • Leslee outlines the theological principle underpinning trustworthiness from Philippians 1:27.

    • Winner on how consistency breeds trust using the chocolate raw egg prank as an example.

    • Practical applications for the ‘be trustworthy’ principle, starting with living with a clear conscience, both personally and organizationally.

    • Find out what Leslee, Jimmy, and Winner mean when they say “fill the gas with trust.”

    • The importance of follow through, as well as under-promising and over-delivering.

    “It’s easy to find yourself over-promising. Really, in an organization, that’s not healthy. It’s healthier to tell people no, or what you can realistically accomplish, than to try to please them by saying yes and then not being able…
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    “Integrity means complete, it means whole, it means upright – being the same on the outside as you are on the inside.
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    CFTROU 0139: Be a Family Sep 21, 2021
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    CFTROU 0139: Be a Family

    In this episode, we continue this season talking about our Family Church Leadership Principles. Joining us today are Pastor Derek Simpson from our Family Church Downtown Campus and Pastor Larry Mayer from our Family Church West Campus. Our seven leadership principles are: be a family, be trustworthy, be a people developer, be a motivator, be an innovator, be a collaborator, and be excellent. Today’s podcast will focus on the first one – to be a family. We dive right in with what it means to be a family, practical ways and behaviors to be a family, how love should be your primary motivator not only when you lead, putting people into places for them to best succeed.

    Key Points:

    • What we mean when we say be a family; to love one another as brothers and sisters.

    • We discuss practical ways and behaviors to be a family; the first: let love be the primary motivator.

    • What happens when leaders don’t have a primary motivator of love.
    • When you love people for the best parts of them; seeing people how God created them.
    • Why organizations should actively try to avoid falling under the idea that the higher somebody is, the more important that person is.
    • How we cultivate our culture and the family-orientated structure at Family Church; meet often and eat often.

    It’s not about the lack of accountability it’s about recognizing when someone is really good at some things and not at others — but don’t force them to live in the area of their perpetual weakness.
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    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

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    CFTROU 0138: The Need to Define Culture Sep 14, 2021
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    CFTROU 0138: The Need to Define Culture

    Welcome back to Church for the Rest of Us! This season we are discussing our Family Church Leadership Principles. Our CFO and Business Administrator, Scott Crawford, joins us on this episode. As we launch our new season, we talk about why we decided to define our principles and how we defined them. Over the next seven episodes, we will unpack each one with our guests. On this episode, we talk about defining culture, how we relate to one another, and why it’s important for churches to write down their principles.

    Key Points:

    • Why it’s important for a church to have leadership principles: they provide clarity, keep everyone on the same page, and maintain consistency.

    • Culture is transmitted through leadership over time.

    • Why it’s important to steward culture; it has a tendency to drift.

    • We talk about what culture is and what it is not.

    • How we came up with our leadership principles.

    • What do you do with your leadership principles once you have them.

    We believe language helps to create and communicate culture.
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    Culture is transmitted through leadership over time.
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    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

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    Leslee on Twitter

    Scott on Twitter

    Church for the Rest of Us Conference

    Church for the Rest of Us on Twitter

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    Family Church on Instagram

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    CFTROU 0137: Theological Education Reimagined Jun 15, 2021
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    CFTROU 0137: Theological Education Reimagined

    There will always be value in continuing the journey of education and learning; being a life-long learner is a vital aspect of success and effectiveness in the ministry. You will continue to see and reap the benefits of education, whether it’s to better handle the word of God, handle theological truth, explaining why you believe what you believe, and so much more. With that, welcome back to another episode of Church For the Rest of Us, Church Reimagined Series! Joining us today on the show is our good friend Troy Temple, the Dean of the Rawling’s School of Divinity at Liberty University. We continue our talk on re-planting, renewing, and reimagining the way that we do church. We delve into the topic of reimagining the way we do Christian Education or Theological Education; such an important aspect of what we do at Family Church. Stay tuned for an insightful conversation with Dr. Troy W. Temple and being a life-long learner!

    Key Points:

    • Troy shares more about himself, his family, and his connection to Family Church.

    • More about Troy’s role at Liberty University and the importance of training when in ministry.

    • Hear about the different levels of education at the Rawling’s School of Divinity and their desire to partner with local churches.

    • How COVID is impacting theological education and trends; innovating in a quick and effective way.

    • More about the model of education they are trying to create and how it works.

    • Calling out the call: giving people the opportunity to go into full-time ministry.

    • Troy’s advice to pastors who would like to level up in their education: use the internet.

    • The vital importance of being a life-long learner to success and effectiveness in the ministry.

    The way you grow is being able to focus in on what you’ve been called to do, and being obedient in that!
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    I’m so thankful for Liberty University, making theological education and training, accessible, making it affordable, and making it adaptable — wherever you are or whatever you’re doing. They’re conservative and bible-based, and…
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    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

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    Dr. Troy W. Temple

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    Liberty University

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    Church for the Rest of Us on Twitter

    Family Church Network

    Family Church on Facebook

    Family Church on Instagram

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    CFTROU 0136: Redefining & Rethinking Bivocational Leaders Jun 01, 2021
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    CFTROU 0136: Church Reimagined: Redefining & Rethinking Bivocational Leaders

    Today on Church for the Rest of Us, we continue our conversation of replanting, renewing, and reimagining the way we do church in 2021 by delving into the topic of bi-vocational ministry. We believe we could extend the church further and faster with people who are willing to be by bi-vocational church planters, pastors, and ministry leaders, and that’s why we started a two-year residency program here at Family Church. Today we talk to Pastor Jimmy Paul, a bi-vocational pastor who was led to move his family from Illinois to South Florida to participate in the residency program. In addition to his full-time job in his family’s furniture business and some work in real estate, he is also pastoring college students through some of the most crucial times of their lives in our college ministry. Tuning in, you’ll hear about his family’s experience of the residency program, his thoughts on full-time ministry versus bi-vocational ministry, and his advice for anyone who is considering becoming a bi-vocational pastor. We feel that this may be one of the best podcasts we’ve ever done in terms of inspiring people to do something outside of the box, so tune in today!

    Key Points:

    • An introduction to Jimmy Paul, his family, and his full-time job.
    • How Jimmy serves at Family Church as a bi-vocational pastor.
    • How he was led to leave his life in Illinois and do the residency program in South Florida.
    • What it was like for him and his family to be part of the residency program.
    • How he feels about his calling in the college ministry.
    • How Family Church has helped him become successful as a bi-vocational
    • The importance of his whole family being involved in the process.
    • How the program works: they don’t send him out alone, he is part of a team.
    • The importance of having a group of pastors’ wives that support each other.
    • Thoughts on full-time ministry vs part-time ministry with a full-time job.
    • Advice for anyone else who is considering becoming a bi-vocational pastor: just do it!
    • The value of speaking to other bi-vocational pastors before you choose this path.
    • Advice for pastors trying to encourage people to step into bi-vocational
    • The importance of over-communicating and extending grace to bi-vocational

    I love being in both worlds where we can celebrate what God’s doing and also being around people that aren’t Christians that are challenging how I think, and it makes me a lot more compassionate when I do get up and teach.
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    I would say that bi-vocational ministry is the future of the church. Some hybrid of vocational pastors that are paid, bi-vocational pastors that are unpaid or paid less, that is the future of the church!
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    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Jimmy on Twitter

    Leslee on Twitter

    Jimmy Paul on Twitter

    The Math Doesn’t Work: Why the Future of Church Planting is Bi-Vocational

    Church for the Rest of Us on Twitter

    Family Church Network

    Family Church on Facebook

    Family Church on Instagram

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    CFTROU 0135: Church Reimagined: Standardization vs. Customization May 18, 2021
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    CFTROU 0135: Church Reimagined: Standardization vs. Customization

    To continue our exploration of this season’s focus on the church reimagined, today we are joined by Pastor Larry Mayer and Pastor Jose DaSilva to discuss the balance between standardization and customization for your church! There are clear benefits to each of these avenues, and as you will hear from our guests, finding the right amount to suit your congregation can be a very powerful tool for the gospel. We hear from Pastor Larry about how the standardization within which he works allows him to focus on connecting more deeply with his people, before Pastor Jose gets into why customization and flexibility are so essential to his practice, sermonizing to a mostly Spanish-speaking group. We get into a quick discussion on culture and language and look at some useful examples of differences that are important to respond to. Further points that come up during today’s conversation include allowing space for progress and innovation, and some of the hurdles that larger organizations face. So for all of this from Jimmy, Leslee, and our two wonderful guests, listen in today!

    Key Points:

    • The benefits of standardizing church practices across different locations.
    • Communication and the accountability that can go into scripts for services.
    • Perspectives on customization versus standardization; a healthy blend.
    • The linguistic and cultural dimensions to this conversation.
    • Different holiday practices; Christmas with Pastor Jose and his congregation!
    • The power of the combination of the local and the larger whole.
    • Lessons from more standardized churches while allowing space for fun and creativity.
    • Potential drawbacks and challenges to running a multi-site congregation or organization.
    • Bringing a wide range of perspectives and approaches to the table for the greater good.

    How much do we get together and do all the same thing, across the board? And how much do we contextualize to each neighborhood?
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    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Jimmy on Twitter

    Leslee on Twitter

    Carly on Twitter

    Pastor Larry Mayer on LinkedIn

    Pastor Jose DaSilva

    Church for the Rest of Us on Twitter

    Family Church Network

    Family Church on Facebook

    Family Church on Instagram

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    This will help us place the podcast in front of more pastors and ministry leaders. It also lets us learn from you. Thank you for taking the time to get the word out about Church for the Rest of Us.

    CFTROU 0134: Church Reimagined: 52 Special Events a Year May 04, 2021
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    CFTROU 0134: Church Reimagined: 52 Special Events a Year

    On this episode, we are joined by Aaron Filippone, Campus Pastor of Family Church Gardens. Our discussion centers around growing our Sunday morning church services – our 52 special events a year. How do we go about doing this? We talk about some of practical ways we have approached this. Our team shares the tools we’ve made use of in this season and discuss the significance of deciding, as a church, what your main task, business, and emphasis will be. All of this helps bring the focus back to the mission and growing our church as a whole. Tune in and let us know your thoughts! Key Points:
    • What Pastor Jimmy means when he says we have 52 special events in a year.
    • Why you need to decide, as a church, what your main task, business, and emphasis is.
    • How to navigate passions and ministry ideas without draining from the main church mission.
    • How we used 501(c)(3)’s to help maintain and sustain some of the ministries we “landed.”
    • Learn how partnering with other organizations is an option to continue serving the community.
    • Some strategies to make sure your 52 events are successful and healthy: driving attention to Sunday mornings.
    • Why pastors should make sure that ministries are not a substitute for corporate gatherings.
    • Advice for pastors who are in the process of starting back up: stop doing things that are not profitable to your mission.
    • Practical tips from Pastor Jimmy and Aaron – make lists!

    In my opinion, you shouldn’t have any events that are more important than your Sunday morning services.
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    If you don’t grow, you’re going to die. And if you do grow, you’ll outgrow all of the problems you are having!
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    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Jimmy on Twitter

    Leslee on Twitter

    Aaron on Twitter

    Carly on LinkedIn

    Church for the Rest of Us on Twitter

    Family Church on Facebook

    Family Church on Instagram

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    This will help us place the podcast in front of more pastors and ministry leaders. It also lets us learn from you. Thank you for taking the time to get the word out about Church for the Rest of Us.

    CFTROU 0133: Church Reimagined: Church Revitalizations with Mark Clifton from NAMB Apr 20, 2021
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    CFTROU 0133: Church Reimagined: Church Revitalizations with Mark Clifton from NAMB

    In previous years, churches that were less attended were ultimately destined to close their doors for good. However, these days there is a new trend towards revitalizing and replanting these churches. Today we are joined by Mark Clifton, Senior Director of Church Replanting at the North American Mission Board and author of Reclaiming Glory: Revitalizing Dying Churches. Mark feels that when a church closes down, God’s glory is at stake in that community. Together we discuss the burgeoning interest in replanting churches and how COVID-19 has influenced this. We talk about the differences between a church that needs to be revitalized and a church that needs to be replanted. Mark gives some helpful tips on what causes churches to die in the first place and provides great resources for churches that need help. Tune in to hear more.

    Key Points:

    • The need for a church to examine itself and be realistic about its condition and trajectory.
    • A look at the type of wins churches are gaining from replanting.
    • The process of the adoption of a church by another church.
    • The problem of lack of leadership in dying churches.
    • The difference between a church that can be revitalized and a church that needs to be replanted.
    • The correlation between the death of a church and disobedience.
    • Questions around whether a church needs a new pastor to replant.
    • Advice for a pastor of a small or medium-sized church that needs to be revitalized.

    Replanting a church is a bit like rescuing a drowning swimmer: you kind of got to wait until the fight kicks out of them before you pull them to shore.
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    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Mark on Twitter

    North American Mission Board

    Reclaiming Glory: Revitalizing Dying Churches

    Replant Roadmap

    Biblical Church Revitalization

    Church Replanters

    The Replant Collective

    Jimmy on Twitter

    Leslee on Twitter

    Dean on Twitter

    Church for the Rest of Us on Twitter

    Family Church on Facebook

    Family Church on Instagram

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    CFTROU 0132: Church Reimagined: Making Multisite Work with Dean Inserra City Church Apr 06, 2021
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    CFTROU 0132: Making Multisite Work – Dean Inserra at City Church in Tallahassee

    On this episode, we’re joined by Dean Inserra, the founding and lead pastor of City Church in Tallahassee, Florida. Pastor Dean was called to start a church in his hometown while he was the Student Body President at Leon High School. He is passionate about sharing the gospel with the people in Tallahassee. His vision is to see a worldwide impact made for Jesus. He discusses the launching of a new campus, how COVID-19 has impacted their church, advice for pastors considering going multisite, and tells us about his new book, Get Over Yourself. Tune in!

    Key Points:

    • How the pandemic has impacted City Church and how they have adapted.
    • We hear about how Pastor Dean scaled his church from a home church to where they are now.
    • How he would change and what he would build into his launch team if he could do things over.
    • Why staffing your new campus carefully is crucial to the growth and success of your church.
    • How City Church is measuring engagement and connection.
    • Why you should be focused on connecting on the personal and be clear on your message.

    You’ve got to turn off the ‘noise’ sometimes and really just get wise counsel from someone who you trust, and then go make the move.
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    There’s sometimes when you really don’t need buy-in you just need permission.
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    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Jimmy on Twitter

    Leslee on Twitter

    Dean on Twitter

    Church for the Rest of Us on Twitter

    Family Church on Facebook

    Family Church on Instagram

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    CFTROU 0131B8: Bonus: Full Circle Parenting Mar 23, 2021
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    CFTROU 0131B8: Bonus: Full Circle Parenting

    PRE-ORDER BOOK Family life is important, if you lead a ministry team, or whatever your situation may be. The good news is that you can do everything that God wants you to do with your ministry and family with resources you have, right now! On today’s episode, we welcome Pastor Jimmy’s wife, Kristin, and two of their kids Stephen and Anna Kate. We’re going to talk about a new Family Church resource called Full Circle Parenting, a book written by Jimmy and Kristin, releasing on April 20, 2021. All the proceeds for this book go to Family Church to support our strategy called Relentless Pursuit, and we are so excited about this new resource. Tune in today to hear from the Scroggins as they share with us the motivation behind writing the book, unpacking the terms complexity and management, how they impact our children, as well as hear some personal experiences from Stephen and Anna-Kate! So, stay tuned and enjoy.

    Key Points:

    • Learn about the tools we’ve made use of in this season.
    • How the concept of complexity impacted Anna Kate.
    • How the concept of management applies to our kids.
    • Stephen talks about his experience with management in his life; a trusting bond between father and son.
    • What makes the kids comfortable with approaching their parents with their issues; being real and comforting.
    • Intentional actions that Pastor Jimmy and Kristin have done to facilitate relationships with their children; nurturing and building sibling relationships.
    • Taking advantage of the flexibility of being in ministry and prioritizing shared experiences.
    • Stephen and Anna Kate share their favorite principles they learned from their parents.
    • Goals for parents to takeaway as they read through the resource.

    Jimmy and I have been saying that a good theology leads to a good parenting strategy, which helps us to have good conversations with our kids.
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    Having good parent-child and sibling relationships is accessible!
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    The standards are high, and we are pursuing God’s design, but we never forget that God made a way back! There is redemption and there is restoration, it’s never too late for anybody.
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    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Full Circle Parenting Book

    Jimmy on Twitter

    Kristin on Twitter

    Leslee on Twitter

    Church for the Rest of Us on Twitter

    Family Church on Facebook

    Family Church on Instagram

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