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    CFTROU 0101: Leading Through COVID-19: Opportunity to Reinvent May 05, 2020
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    Episode 0101: Leading Through COVID-19 – Leading Through COVID-19: Opportunity to Reinvent

    We discuss how the coronavirus crisis has presented churches, leaders, and organizations with the opportunity to reinvent themselves. We’ve previously used the analogy of having to move out of our house into an apartment and the necessary adjustments we have had to make. While this season is not going to last forever, it will last long enough for us to have to unpack our metaphorical clothes and get settled in – for anything between six to twenty-four months. In some areas and states, churches are preparing to open in the next few weeks. Out of necessity, we’ve all had to abandon some things that don’t fit in our current context – and perhaps it’s time to abandon some of them permanently. Conversely, there are some practices that are worth holding onto and taking with us into the future. This is the time to shift gears and reinvent your church so that you can step into who God has called you to be as the body.

    Key Points From This Episode:

    • The three boxes for innovation: performance engine, selectively abandoning the past, and innovation.
    • How this time is forcing us to rethink our systems and processes and find new ways to communicate the message of the gospel.
    • A few things that Family Church has selectively abandoned.
    • How going digital has taught us to run effective meetings virtually.
    • Consider how your website has shifted to be the new front door to your house.
    • What we will be taking with us into the future – and why it will remain a constant for us.
    • The importance of smaller groups and shepherding people.
    • Keeping in mind that recreating and reimagining community is critical.
    • Advice and encouragement for churches that might need to reinvent themselves.

    This is a perfect time for churches and organizations to selectively abandon the past.
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    Don’t be alone. Don’t feel like you have to strategize at all by yourself. If your church needs to be replanted, you should get some people to walk with you.
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    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    North American Mission Board

    Southern Baptist Convention

    Jimmy on Twitter

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    Leslee on Twitter

    Carly on LinkedIn

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    CFTROU 0100: Leading Through COVID-19: Connection Behind Content Apr 30, 2020
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    Episode 0100: Leading Through COVID-19: Connection Behind Content

    Visiting us today is Kadi Cole. Kadi is a leadership and organizational consultant, author, and speaker. She is the author of Developing Female Leaders: Navigate the Minefields and Release the Potential of Women in Your Church. We discuss how important leadership is in times of crisis. Rather than getting into a mere crisis management mode, she recommends leaders focus on the why and not just the how. While it is important to identify and execute on significant tasks and maintaining operations, Kadi appeals to leaders to lean into God and communicate to their teams from a place of connectedness to Him. In addition to prioritizing strong leadership over management, effective pastors and church lead themselves well before prescribing to others how they should act, modeling behavior. Kadi also discusses how to keep members of a church congregation connected making an effort to build on the sense of community established in your church.

    Key Points From This Episode:

    • How Kadi helped Family Church set up a task force for their weekend experience.
    • Acknowledging the different ways God has prepared churches for this crisis.
    • Common characteristics of leadership teams doing well during COVID-19.
    • Distinguishing between crisis leadership and crisis management and the long-term impacts.
    • Focusing on the things that will stay the same, like vision and mission, while leading change in other aspects of the organization.
    • Viewing technology as one of the vehicles God has given us to keep connections alive.
    • Thoughts on the value and power of social media content in this season.
    • Keeping in mind that recreating and reimagining community is critical.
    • The importance of practicing self-leadership before attempting to lead your congregation.

    Crisis leadership is about vision and inspiration and that has to be the way we lead at the forefront, especially as believers because the vision and inspiration we’re giving them are the promises of God.
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    We get to be a part of history. The history books will look back on us and see that we fought to build our church, lead our people, and keep them connected during this unprecedented time.
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    I think more than anything, it’s really important that we are practicing self-leadership well so that we can lead others.
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    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Kadi Cole

    Developing Female Leaders: Navigate the Minefields and Release the Potential of Women in Your Church

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    Jimmy on Twitter

    Leslee on Twitter

    Carly on LinkedIn

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    CFTROU 0099: Leading Through COVID-19: Reopening Church TBD Apr 28, 2020
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    Episode 0099: Leading Through COVID-19: Reopening Church TBD

    The coronavirus pandemic continues, and in this episode, we discuss what reopening church will look like. When the government lifts some of the social distancing restrictions, how will it affect us when we gather in the future? How is it going to impact the way we do church? While new cases have slowed and even seem to be declining in some areas, the long-term recovery from the pandemic will take months, possibly years. Church leaders should be thinking about how they will approach reopening, specifically in light of social distancing. We discuss some of the models we are looking at as we consider reopening Family Church for in-person gatherings.

    Key Points From This Episode:

    • The new regulations around wearing masks and how that impacts social engagement.
    • The widespread implications of the protocols implemented to manage the outbreak.
    • Feedback from the research Family Church has done in terms of reopening.
    • The strategy of improving a church’s digital presence.
    • Finding ways to meet the needs of our church family during this time of social distancing.
    • The reopening models under consideration and the one thing they all have in common.
    • The social pressure to make decisions in accordance with what people believe is safe.
    • How the initial concerns about medical provision and capacity have shifted.
    • How every church leader should be thinking about and discussing the possibility of reopening.

    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    CDC Response to COVID-19

    Disney’s Response to COVID-19

    Jimmy on Twitter

    Derek on Twitter

    Leslee on Twitter

    Carly on LinkedIn

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    CFTROU 0098: Leading Through COVID-19: Multisite Before and After the Crisis Apr 23, 2020
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    Episode 0098: Leading Through COVID-19: Multisite Before and After the Crisis

    Dr. Gregg Allison from the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary joins us to talk about the multisite church model before and after the COVID-19 crisis. Dr. Allison started his research as a skeptic, but after hosting a course and finding strong Biblical support for it, he has become an advocate. He tells us about his book, MultiChurch, which includes how to balance the responsibilities of individual churches with those of the larger network they belong to. Dr. Allison stresses the importance of considering the unique context of each congregation, while still being accountable to and interconnected with the other churches in the collective, explaining how the roles and functions are divided so that the leadership of each congregation enjoys both autonomy and support. Towards the end of the conversation, Dr. Allison also shares his perspective on churches who choose a different path and how the Sojourn Collective approaches things like church governance, voting, and ordinances during the coronavirus pandemic.

    Key Points From This Episode:

    • Dr. Allison’s transition from skepticism to tolerance and eventually advocating for the multisite model.
    • An explanation of the multi-church model, including the leadership roles and the connection to the larger body.
    • Finding the balance of prioritizing the individual church against the collective network.
    • Thoughts on property ownership, finances, and HR responsibilities in the multisite structure.
    • Why multisite churches are finding themselves in an advantageous position at the moment.
    • The posture to maintain toward churches who choose a different approach.
    • The challenge of congregational governance and decision making in the current context.

    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Dr. Gregg Allison

    The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary

    MultiChurch Book by Dr. Gregg Allison

    Sojourn Collective

    Jimmy on Twitter

    Leslee Bennett on Twitter

    Carly Seelman

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    CFTROU 0097: Leading Through COVID-19: Staying Connected to our Kids Apr 21, 2020
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    Episode 0097: Leading Through COVID-19: Staying Connected to Our Kids

    One of our core values at Family Church is building families. In this episode Pastor George Estornell joins us. Pastor George is the Pastor to Kids and Families of our Downtown campus, as well as leads our network-wide kids ministry team. He shares simple and creative solutions that any church leader can use with the resources they currently have. From Family Fun Fridays to Church at Home Toolkits, George explains that this is all about reaching out to parents and kids to stay connected to their church family.

    Key Points From This Episode:

    • Changes and pivots the church has made concerning kids ministry.
    • Maintaining the connection between parents, kids, and our church family.
    • Measures that have been taken in order to go to digital programming.
    • What Heartland is and how this helps parents and encourages kids.
    • The ease and affordability of using social media during this time.
    • Activities and materials to keep kids engaged.
    • Do’s and Don’ts — find ways to carry on, keep it fun, and stay connected.
    • The investment of time on discipling our kids is vital.

    Just make sure you are doing something. Don't sit back and stand still and not do anything.
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    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    The Treehouse Takeover YouTube Playlist

    Church at Home Toolkit for Preschool Kids

    Church at Home Toolkit for Elementary Kids

    George Estornell on Twitter

    Jimmy on Twitter

    Leslee Bennett on Twitter

    Carly Seelman on LinkedIn

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    CFTROU 0096: Leading Through COVID-19: Engaging Students Apr 15, 2020
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    Episode 0096: Leading Through COVID-19: Engaging Students

    Tyler Core, Pastor to Students and Families of our Downtown campus and leads our student ministry. Tyler and his wife, Ashley have a heart for students and walking a road of discipleship with the young leaders in our network. With the rise of social media, the nature of student ministry has experienced a total evolution and is proving to be most beneficial amid social distancing regulations. On this episode, we talk about the tools they are using to foster connection, build trust, and how they’re meeting people where they are to connect them to a greater connection with Jesus and their church family.

    Key Points From This Episode:

    • How the nature of student ministry has changed with the rise of social media.
    • The three ways in which they have shifted their approach to students.
    • Utilizing Zoom to connect with young people and facilitate small groups.
    • Creating relevant content and other ways to gain the trust of Generation Z.
    • How the current circumstances are creating new opportunities for connection.
    • Find out about the online discipleship event that Tyler and his team hosted.
    • Using this time to impact the next generation and continue with evangelism and discipleship.
    • The power of a phone call to reach out to families and show that you care.

    This has been a season for me and for our team of asking God to do what only he can do and to show up in unique and powerful ways.
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    This is the type of stuff that defines generations; this time period in history is going to impact this generation forever. So, I want them to look back and remember we accelerated at full speed.
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    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Zoom

    Tyler Core on Twitter

    Jimmy on Twitter

    Leslee Bennett on Twitter

    Carly Seelman on LinkedIn

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    CFTROU 0095: Leading Through COVID-19: Financial Planning Apr 13, 2020
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    Episode 0095: Leading Through COVID-19: Financial Planning

    Scott Crawford, Business Administrator and CFO of the Family Church Network, joins the conversation. As churches are seeing a decline in offerings, it’s important to seriously reconsider budgets and financial strategies. In this episode, we look at our financial plan amidst the coronavirus crisis. We discuss looking at income versus expenditures and what a phased financial plan looks like and how it is communicated to our staff and volunteers. None of us knows how long this crisis will persist. It is advisable to plan for the worst while hoping for the best. In light of this, we outlined a plan preparing us for an extended period of economic uncertainty. We talk about how each phase is dependent on triggers, determined by factual information. We also talk about identifying and holding on to a minimum operating reserve (if possible) and the human resources that should be considered in this process.

    Key Points From This Episode:

    • The need to plan for a different financial reality now and after the crisis is over.
    • Considering both the short and long-term components of financial sustainability.
    • The importance of being flexible, adaptable, and agile.
    • Consider cost cutting methods, including bringing services that were outsourced back in-house.
    • How to determine when to activate the next phase of your financial plan.
    • How we are rolling out the plan and communicating it with the people involved.
    • Leveraging resources offered at this time, including applying for stimulus packages.

    The worst thing that churches can do right now is knee-jerk and react. But I do think you need to put your church in a position to be flexible, adaptable, and agile.
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    Any church that is paying for an outside service always has the opportunity to take that service back in-house and utilize the staff that you have or high-capacity volunteers.
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    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Lakes Church

    Scott Crawford on Twitter

    Jimmy on Twitter

    Leslee Bennett on Twitter

    Carly Seelman on LinkedIn

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    CFTROU 0094: Leading Through COVID-19: Celebrating the Ordinances Apr 08, 2020
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    Episode 0094: Leading Through COVID-19 – Celebrating the Ordinances

    Baptism and the Lord’s Supper are two faith practices Jesus told us to observe as a church. COVID-19 has called for us to change the way we celebrate our ordinances. We have pressed on to take the Lord’s Supper each week and have also performed baptisms, being mindful of physical distancing. We had to think about the theological and practical implications of doing these ordinances virtually; having to find the balance between living out our faith and staying true to God’s Word. Despite the physical limitations, we have witnessed how sharing baptisms online has allowed us to touch the lives of many people; and how taking the Lord’s Supper is an opportunity for parents to share a teachable moment with their children on the significance of this practice. It also allows parents, and other believers, to model how to celebrate the ordinances in a way that honors the Lord.

    Key Points From This Episode:

    • Having to rethink how we celebrate ordinances as the body of Christ.
    • The challenge of baptizing people in the context of physical distancing.
    • How we approach online baptisms while remaining faithful to the God’s Word.
    • Theological concerns around practicing the Lord’s Supper.
    • Providing guidelines to the congregation to keep the ordinances respectful and holy.
    • Creating special memories by including children in services and ordinances at home.
    • How this keeps the people in your church connected and faithful during this crisis.

    When you think about what a church is, one of the identifying qualifications is celebrating the ordinances together.
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    We have a high view of baptism. We require someone to join our church in order to be baptized.
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    We only have two ordinances in the Bible. We want to do them as accurately and as close to the scriptures as we can.
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    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Aaron Filippone on Twitter

    Jimmy on Twitter

    Leslee Bennett on Twitter

    Carly Seelman on LinkedIn

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    CFTROU 0093: Leading Through COVID-19: Collaboration During a Crisis Apr 03, 2020
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    CFTROU 0093: Leading Through COVID-19: Collaboration During a Crisis

    As we continue the conversation of leading through the COVID-19 crisis, we welcome two of our esteemed pastors to talk about the shift in our organizational model and the how they have led through that change. Pastor Seth Carter serves as the Creative Arts Pastor of the Family Church Network and directs all creative initiatives of our weekend experience. Pastor Winner Olmann leads from the platform and directs all worship and creative initiatives of our Village campus. Both are not only leaders, they are talented practitioners. They share their experience of having to switch gears overnight, which involved shifting their focus from a campus perspective to a network mindset. These changes have necessitated several adjustments due to rapidly changing circumstances. Seth and Winner share advice around the division of teams, being financially prudent, and using the resources they already had to flex in a dynamic crisis situation.

    Key Points From This Episode:

    • How the crisis required them to rapidly pivot and help other team members adjust.
    • Curating not only Sunday service, but also engaging weekday content.
    • How team members are leaving their comfort zones to learn and develop new skills.
    • Remaining financially prudent and using the resources you already have at your disposal.
    • Working on cross-functional relationships and resourcing each other in creative areas.

    We’ve really had to shift from being face-to-face to being one content-creating team, putting out multiple kinds of content each week.
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    We shifted into a content creation machine and mapped out major touchpoints to stay engaged with our congregations daily.
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    We are having to invest energy and passion to other areas, and that has been a good thing. We need to have that kind of mentality, have that right attitude to serve our people.
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    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Seth Carter on Twitter

    Winner Olmann on Twitter

    Adobe Premiere Rush

    TikTok

    Google Drive

    Jimmy on Twitter

    Leslee Bennett on Twitter

    Carly on LinkedIn

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    CFTROU 0092: Leading Through COVID-19: Crisis Response Team Apr 01, 2020
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    CFTROU 0092: Leading Through COVID-19: Crisis Response Team

    In this episode, we welcome our guest, Pastor Derek Simpson to the show. He serves as the campus pastor of our Downtown campus and leads the Family Church Network Matrix team. In response to the COVID-19 crisis, our church mobilized a cross-functional task force of leaders from different departments. As quarterback of this crisis response team, Pastor Derek discussed how critical this is in order to take on new challenges to keep finding new ways to do church and adjust to our new reality. He equipped his leaders by laying out a strategic plan with clear direction of what each team would deliver and by when. We learn that smaller churches can also implement these action plans, maximizing the resources already in place, recruiting volunteers, and leveraging social media.

    Key Points From This Episode:

    • How having a clear mission and vision helps you to swiftly implement a plan.
    • The process of recruiting the players on each team.
    • How smaller churches can implement similar strategies with limited resources.
    • Leveraging social media by identifying influencers to communicate information.
    • Providing clear direction and a timeline for deliverables.
    • The importance of allowing teams to think outside the box while providing guidance.
    • Establishing a shepherding system to stay engaged with our church members.
    • How our weekend production team manages the Sunday worship services online.
    • What we have learned so far, including using keywords and tags on social media platforms.

    I call it a war room experience because we basically had to change our tactics overnight. It’s a pretty glorious thing to watch.
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    We have a very clear picture of who we are as a church and what we do. Our mission and vision didn’t change, so we just had to do it differently.
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    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Derek Simpson on Twitter

    Church Online Platform

    Jimmy on Twitter

    Leslee Bennett on Twitter

    Carly on LinkedIn

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