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Seven Reasons Why Gen Z Is Abandoning the Faith (w/ Laurie Christine) - Archive Ep. 98 Aug 24, 2026

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Parents cannot afford to ignore why so many Gen Zers are walking away from Christianity. Understanding the reasons behind this dramatic cultural shift is essential for any Christian parent hoping to nurture enduring faith in their children.

In this sobering and highly relevant episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, Catherine is joined by guest Laurie Christine (author, podcast host, and biblical parenting coach) for a deep dive into the top seven reasons Gen Z is leaving the faith.

Pulling from recent Barna research, Catherine outlines the most prominent factors cited by young people, including the prevalence of evil and suffering, hypocrisy within the church, challenges regarding science, accusations that Christianity is “fairy tale,” historical injustices, church irrelevance, and personal bad experiences with Christians. Each of these issues is explored, not only in terms of what is driving the exodus but with practical suggestions and resources for parents at every stage—from young children in the home to teens on the brink of adulthood.

Key Points Covered:

A Crisis of Worldview in Churches
- Only 37% of pastors and 51% of evangelical pastors have a biblical worldview (09:24), according to the American Worldview Inventory.
- Parents are cautioned not to outsource spiritual formation solely to churches—home must be the primary place for faith development.
The Power and Pervasiveness of Cultural Influence
- Social media, internet, and secular worldviews bombard kids daily, requiring parents to proactively engage in conversations about pantheism, secularism, suffering, identity, and more (10:49).
Barna’s Seven Reasons Gen Z Is Leaving the Faith (12:02), (32:55)
1. 1. I have a hard time believing that a good God would allow so much evil or suffering in the world (29%): see EPISODE 66 w/ Dr. Douglas Groothuis
  
  2. Christians are hypocrites (23%)
  
  3. I believe science refutes too much of the Bible (20%) See Dr. Stephen Meyer: Signature in the Cell, The Return of the God Hypothesis, and Darwin’s Doubt; also see Dr. John Lennox (The “God Delusion “ Debate with Richard Dawkins)
  
  4. I don’t believe in fairy tales (19%) see “The Case for Christ” & “The Case for Christ for Kids” by Lee Strobel
  
  5. There are too many injustices in the history of Christianity (15%) see Episode 9: How Does Christian Worldview Creates the World We all Want to Live”, see Episodes 93, 94, & 95 w/ Os Guinness
  
  6. I used to go to church, but it’s just not important to me anymore (12%)
  
  7. I had a bad experience in church/with a Christian (6%) see Episodes 39, 40, 41, & 42; see “When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community from Emotional & Spiritual Abuse” by Dr. Chuck DeGroat
Parenting Solutions for Each Season
- Practical foundation-building for young children: daily devotions, scripture memory using music, and apologetics resources like Foundation Worldview (21:45).
- Teen and adult strategies: prioritizing tough conversations, choosing churches wisely, and seeking out other trusted Christian influences when parental voice decreases (19:08), (25:20).
- The unique call to pray for, encourage, and intentionally speak truth into the distinctive gifts and struggles of each child.
Featured Resources
- Foundation Worldview curriculum (with discount code)
- Books: The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel, Signature in the Cell by Dr. Stephen Meyer, When Narcissism Comes to Church by Dr. Chuck DeGrow
- Podcast episode recommendations for parents of prodigals and those wrestling with the problem of evil

Guest bio:
Laurie Christine is an author, podcast host, wife, and mom to four adventurous boys. She leads Redeeming the Chaos, equipping moms of boys to raise courageous kids rooted in Christ.

Want deeper guidance?
Subscribe to Catherine’s website for a free prodigal bundle (podcasts, articles, scripture lists, and music), plus weekly encouragement and parenting resources. For parents walking the prodigal path, there is hope—you are not alone.

Do not miss this critical conversation—because if we want to help Gen Z return to the faith, we must first understand why they’re leaving.

RESOURCES REFERENCED AND CITED:

“Emerging Gen Z may deliver huge blow to religion in U.S.” by Jeff Brumley (June 8, 2018)

The American Worldview Inventory in 2022 highlights worldview beliefs of American pastors.

“Only Half of Evangelical Pastors Possess a Christian Worldview: Incidence Even Lower for Most Denominations” (Cultural Research Cente::ACU)

ACU Cultural Research Center Worldview Inventory 2020-current

Foundation Worldview Curriculum (use “CPCW10” code for 10% discount)

Apologia: What We Believe (4 volume set)

EPISODES CITED:

Episode 57: “How To Teach Your Kids the Christian Worldview” w/ Elizabeth Urbanowicz

Episode 58: “7 Lies Culture is Selling Our Kids: Are They Buying?” w/ Elizabeth Urbanowicz

Episode 72: “What Do People Leaving the Faith often Get Wrong about God?” w/ Elizabeth Urbanowics

Episode 84: “How To Learn More Scripture in 2024 Than You Ever Have Before” w/ Zac Fitzsimmons

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When Godly Parenting Doesn't Result in Godly Kids (w/ D.J. Harry) - Archive Ep. 97 Aug 17, 2026

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No parenting strategy—no matter how faithful or intentional—guarantees your child will follow God. In one of the most honest and tender episodes to date, Catherine and her guest, D.J Harry, open up about the heartache and hope of raising children in a culture that stands in stark opposition to biblical truth.

This is a special “best of” episode that revisits a conversation rich with candor, compassion, and wisdom, as Catherine and D.J Harry confront the painful question: Does godly parenting always produce godly kids? Drawing on profound lessons from the book of Daniel, they discuss what it means to parent faithfully in an ungodly world—and what to do when the outcome isn't what you prayed for.

Key Takeaways & Topics:

No Guaranteed Formula
There’s no five, ten, or twenty-step plan that will ensure your child’s salvation. Every child must ultimately make their own faith decision, and parents are called to obedience and faithfulness, not results.
Lessons from Daniel: Parenting in Babylon
- The unpredictable timing and nature of faith-testing in the next generation
- The importance of a well-rounded education and teaching children how to learn and discern
- Faith transference as a relational—not mechanical—process
- Training children to appeal to authority and stand firm amid pressure, without parents fighting every battle for them
When the Result Is Not What You Expected
Catherine shares her own experience of parenting a child who wrestled with faith and doubt, giving voice to the pain, uncertainty, and relentless prayer that many Christian parents experience. She emphasizes the foundational role parents play and affirms that their faithfulness is never wasted.
Identity Under Fire
The world seeks to rename and redefine our children’s identities—much like Daniel and his friends in Babylon. Knowing who God says they are is essential for resilience.
Grace for Parents
Catherine dispels shame and blame with biblical wisdom: even the perfect parent—God—had children who rebelled. God judges our faithfulness, not our results.
Hope and Practical Help
- Real-life stories of wandering and return
- Prayers and scripture resources for parents of prodigals
- Catherine's personal update: her daughter's faith journey over several years, highlighting the power of persistent, loving prayer

For Listeners Walking the Prodigal Road:
This episode is a lifeline for parents burdened with worry or sorrow over children who question or walk away from faith. You’ll find encouragement, solidarity, and actionable hope alongside scriptural truth and raw honesty.

Guest Bio:
D.J Harry is a pastor, speaker, podcaster, and father of four. He and his wife, Lori, cohost the Better Together podcast, which explores biblical wisdom for marriage and parenting. Learn more at growingbettertogether.org.

Parenting Resource Highlight:
Subscribers to Catherine’s website receive access to her Prodigal Bundle: podcasts, articles, five pages of scriptures to pray over your kids, and more.

If you need prayer or support, email Catherine at katherine@katherineseekers.com. You are not alone.

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Raising Kids to Influence Their Generation: Lessons from Daniel (w/ D. J. Harry) - Archive Ep. 96 Aug 10, 2026

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How do we raise children who stand strong—and even shine—in a culture determined to pull them away from God?

In this special archive series of Christian Parent/Crazy World, host Catherine dives deep into one of the most urgent questions facing Christian parents: How can we prepare our kids to stand firm in a “Babylonian” culture bent on swaying their faith?

To answer this, Catherine welcomes DJ Harry , senior pastor of Needham’s Grove Baptist Church in Central North Carolina and cohost of the Better Together podcast. With over two decades of experience in pastoral ministry (and a background in education), DJ Harry brings powerful insights drawn from the biblical life of Daniel—a young man who stood unwaveringly for God while surrounded by pressure and compromise.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

Timeless Lessons from Daniel:
Drawing from the extraordinary story of Daniel and his friends, listeners are invited to reimagine the Book of Daniel as a parenting manual for today. How did teenagers like Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego maintain unwavering faith in the heart of Babylon—a culture that tried to erase everything they knew and believed?
You Can’t Choose When or How Your Child Will Be Tested:
As DJ Harry recounts, “We don’t get to set the time or the age when our children are going to be pressured.” Like Daniel’s parents, we rarely know how or when our children’s faith will face its hardest tests, but we can choose how we prepare them now.
The Power of a Well-Rounded Foundation:
Daniel and his peers were chosen because of their well-rounded competence—in wisdom, learning, and character. Catherine Segars and DJ Harry challenge parents to nurture not just spiritual knowledge but also curiosity, learning, and character in their children.
Facing the Reality of “Babylon” Today:
The episode acknowledges the modern pressures—academic, social, and spiritual—that Christian kids face, often at younger ages than ever before. The analogy to ancient Babylon becomes all too relevant.
Where Most of the Crowd Goes Missing:
Listeners are reminded that most of the young men taken to Babylon “became good Babylonian young men,” disappearing into the crowd. Only a faithful few—like Daniel and his friends—stood apart. What made the difference, and how can parents cultivate that difference at home?
Practical Encouragement for Uncertain Times:
Personal anecdotes, including a health scare in DJ Harry 's family, bring home the message that we don’t know what tomorrow holds. Our task as parents is to lay the seeds now—academically, spiritually, emotionally—without presuming on time.

Standout Moment:
DJ Harry reveals, “If I want my children to have the greatest opportunity to have an impact in their Babylon, then part of that preparation is preparing them to lead in culture.”

Why This Matters:
In an age when research shows most church-raised kids drift from faith under cultural pressure, this episode is a wake-up call: intentional, daily spiritual formation and well-rounded preparation matter more than ever.

About the Guest:
DJ Harry is the senior pastor of Needham's Grove Baptist Church in Central North Carolina and co-hosts the Better Together podcast with his wife, Lori. With a background as both a science teacher and pastor, he brings real-world experience to this biblical discussion on parenting.

Parenting Takeaway:
Are you cultivating an environment where your children gain not just faith, but the wisdom, skills, and confidence to stand apart in their generation? What steps can you take this week to intentionally prepare your child’s heart, mind, and character for the challenges ahead?

Connect with DJ Harry :
Website: Dr. Dennis Harry

Don’t miss next week’s powerful conclusion—and a moment so surprising it changed the course of this interview.

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Can You Trust God Enough to Rest? Practicing Sabbath in a Busy World (w/ Dr. Steven Hall) - Ep. 189 Aug 03, 2026

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Rest Isn’t a Luxury—It’s a Command: How Christian Parents Can Rediscover the Gift of Sabbath in a Nonstop World

Few topics challenge modern Christian families more deeply than how—and why—to actually keep the Sabbath in our culture of relentless busyness and endless to-do lists. Have we missed one of God’s greatest gifts for our homes?

Catherine is joined by Dr. Steven Hall, minister, theologian, and soul-care advocate, to guide parents through the what, why, and—most importantly—the how of Sabbath-keeping for busy families today. With nearly four decades of ministry experience, degrees in biblical studies, pastoral counseling, and spiritual formation, and as the cofounder of Ministry Oasis, Dr. Steven Hall offers a powerful, grace-filled perspective on rest that goes far beyond legalism.

In this episode, you’ll discover:

Sabbath as Trust, Not Legalism: Dr. Hall reveals how practicing Sabbath is less about rule-following and more about radical trust—much like the principle of tithing. "Trust is being able to say, okay. There's a hard stop here for me…I'm going to trust God with all of my unanswered emails, all my unattended bills, and all my unrun errands," shares Dr. Steven Hall 09:03.
Why Rest Comes First: Many Christians “work, work, work, until we finally collapse,” but as Dr. Hall points out, God designed us to work from rest, not rest from work04:39. The Jewish day begins at sunset, with rest and worship, modeling God’s original rhythms.
Practical Ways to Start: Sabbath needn’t be another item on your checklist. Dr. Hall shares practical, creative approaches for every stage of family life—from “micro-Sabbaths” to trading child care hours with other parents in your community 14:46, 20:10. Even single parents or busy caregivers can carve out sacred time, with the help of honest reflection and support.
Saying “No” for a Higher Yes: Sometimes, honoring the Sabbath means courageously declining soccer games, dance recitals, or church programs that overcrowd your family’s schedule—trusting that what your children need most is a parent who models margin and abiding in Christ 25:21.

Notable Quotes & Moments:

“Sabbath is not about adding one more thing to your to-do list. Sabbath is about removing all the to-do things from your list.” – Dr. Steven Hall 15:21
“Imagine if parents of young children would live and teach Sabbath, their children would catch it—and break the yoke of the cultural pharaoh over their lives.” – Dr. Steven Hall 17:51
Stories of creative Sabbath-keeping, from couple tag-team strategies for parents with little kids, to the real-life example of Susanna Wesley using “micro-Sabbath” moments by simply pulling her apron over her head for prayer 31:06.

About the Guest:
Dr. Steven Hall is associate professor of pastoral ministry at Lee University and cofounder of Ministry Oasis, devoted to the soul health of pastors and ministry leaders.

Ready to trade busyness for blessing?
What could Sabbath look like for your family—if you trusted God enough to stop, even when the world demands more? This episode equips you not only with theological foundations, but also with inspiring ideas and practical steps to lead your home into God’s rhythm of rest.

Ask yourself: What is one step you can take this week to model rest, trust, and delight in God for your children? How might your family—and your legacy—change if you made Sabbath a priority?

Tune in and reclaim the gift of Sabbath for your home!

Resources for Going Deeper

The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer Find it on Amazon
A highly recommended book that explores the damaging effects of hurry and the invitation to cultivate Sabbath rhythms for a more grounded, God-centered life.
Rule of Life Podcast Listen Here
A podcast series (early episodes dedicated to Sabbath) that dives deep into the biblical and practical aspects of building habits of rest and renewal.
Ministry Oasis
Explore resources and Sabbath teachings at ministryoasis.com
Dr. Steven Hall offers teaching, encouragement, and practical guidance for soul health and Sabbath keeping.
Catherine Segars’ Christian Parenting Resources
Get free faith-building downloads at catherinesegars.com/resources
Access eBooks, podcast archives, prayers for your kids, and tools to support your journey as a Christian parent.

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The One Commandment Most Christians Ignore (w/ Dr. Steven Hall) - Ep. 188 Jul 27, 2026

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Most Christians would never dream of breaking the Ten Commandments—except, perhaps, one: “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.” Why has the fourth commandment become the one modern believers feel comfortable ignoring? Is Sabbath rest just an antiquated Old Testament burden—or could restoring it be the antidote our over-stressed homes desperately need?

This week, Catherine welcomes back Dr. Steven Hall, a minister with nearly four decades of experience, associate professor of pastoral ministry at Lee University, and executive director of the Paul L. Walker Center for Pentecostal Preaching. An expert in biblical studies, pastoral counseling, and spiritual formation, Dr. Hall guides listeners through a rejuvenating look at the biblical roots and modern relevance of Sabbath rest.

Key Episode Takeaways:

A Forgotten Commandment
Catherine challenges listeners to reconsider the importance of Sabbath, noting how its neglect is rarely discussed or even recognized—despite its place alongside commandments against murder and adultery (00:37).
Why We Keep Breaking It
According to Dr. Hall, our American hustle-culture and pipeline lifestyle lead us to run on empty—constantly pouring out, never filling up. “Capitalism based on consumerism has no room for rest,” he asserts, explaining why so many parents are exhausted and soul-weary (09:12).
Sabbath: More Than Just a Rule
The conversation reframes Sabbath not as a restrictive law, but as a pre-fall creation principle—woven by God into the fabric of human flourishing (as outlined in Genesis 1 and 2). “Humans were designed to work from rest, not rest from work,” Dr. Hall emphasizes, challenging a work-first, rest-later cultural narrative (25:24).
Awareness Before Obedience
Catherine and Dr. Hall draw parallels to hidden sins, like the anecdote of Alexandra who unknowingly broke biblical commands before learning the truth. The episode encourages parents to move from ignorance to understanding, and to teach their children the same (16:21).
The Sabbath as a Mark of God’s People
Referencing Isaiah 56, Catherine points out how Sabbath-keeping was key to belonging for outsiders—all while remaining a powerful cultural counter-sign today (38:09).
Not Legalism, but Life-Giving Rhythm
Dr. Hall and Catherine reveal how Jesus didn’t abolish the Sabbath, but restored it as a gift for our wellbeing, not a heavy burden (45:25).
A Pandemic of Hurry
Drawing on John Mark Comer and other modern thinkers, the episode exposes the epidemic of “hurry sickness” ravaging our homes and hearts, stealing the very love we’re called to pour out on our families (35:19).
Practical Application Awaits
Look ahead to next week’s episode, where Dr. Hall will unpack “micro-Sabbathing”—real-life strategies for busy parents, caregivers, and those in nontraditional jobs who wrestle with the practicality of setting aside an entire day (46:54).

Notable Quotes:

“Humans were designed to work from rest, not rest from work.” – Dr. Hall
“If the devil can’t make you bad, he’ll make you busy... because if he can make you busy, he can make you tired, and when you’re tired, he can make you bad.” – Dr. Hall (23:02)
“The Sabbath was never intended to become another heavy burden. It was designed to lift our burdens.” – Catherine

About the Guest:
Dr. Steven Hall brings decades of ministry experience, academic expertise, and a passion for spiritual formation. He currently teaches at Lee University and leads Ministry Oasis, fostering soul health among Christian leaders and families.

Are you parenting from the overflow of God’s rest, or are you running on spiritual empty? What would it look like for your family to recover the life-giving rhythm of Sabbath this week?

Tune in—and discover how restoring this ancient practice could transform your home, your peace, and your relationship with God for generations.

Episode Links & Resources

Ministry Oasis
Discover more about Dr. Steven Hall’s ministry for the soul health of pastors and Christian leaders at ministryoasis.com
Books Mentioned
- The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer
  Find it on Amazon
- Practicing the Way by John Mark Comer
  Find it on Amazon
- Works by Walter Brueggemann, including Sabbath as Resistance
  Find it on Amazon
- Emotionally Healthy Spirituality by Pete Scazzero
  Find it on Amazon
Catherine’s Free Parenting Resources
Access free ebooks, scripture lists, podcast bundles, and more to equip you for Christian parenting at:
catherinesegars.com/resources
Or contact Catherine directly at: catherine@catherinesegars.com

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Discovering Your Family’s God-Given Identity (w/ Derek England) - Archive Ep. 118 Jul 20, 2026

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What if your family had a mission as clear as any thriving organization? Without intentionality, families don’t drift toward health—they drift toward chaos. In a world pulling parents in a thousand directions, many Christian families find themselves simply reacting, drifting instead of living with God-given purpose. In this must-listen episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, host Catherine sits down with Derek England, Executive Director of Family ID—a ministry with over 25 years of experience equipping parents to build intentional, value-driven homes.

Why This Episode Matters:
Every family drifts—unless you set your direction on purpose. Few of us stop to ask, “Why has God brought our unique family together?” or, “How do we intentionally pass on our core values?” Catherine and Derek England shine a spotlight on the practical and biblical tools that can transform your family from surviving to thriving.

Guest Highlight:
Derek England is not only leading Family ID but has personally experienced how clarifying family identity can radically alter the trajectory of a home. His heart is for every family—from toddlers to teens—to discover their God-given calling together.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode

Why Family Culture Matters

Catherine reminds us that “families don’t drift toward health—they drift toward chaos.” The foundational strength of your family is the most important ministry, eclipsing even your career and outside achievements.

Intentionality Over Drift

Derek England explains how, after years of approaching work with strategy and goals but “taking family one day at a time,” he and his wife attended a Family ID workshop and immediately knew they’d found what was missing. “Once you think it, you can't unthink it.”

Your Family’s God-Given Uniqueness

Not every family is called to the same mission. Discover the importance of answering the question: “Who are we?” Hear how Family ID helps thousands of families articulate their unique identity, purpose, and direction—with tools that actually shape daily life.

The 16 Family Types

Using research and decades of experience, Family ID has identified 16 different family cultures—from “harmonious” (like the elephant: connected and relational) to “focused” (passionate, intentional, persistent). Find out how an online, totally free assessment can help you discover yours.

Living Out Core Values

Hear how Derek England’s family intentionally chooses and lives by five core values such as “radically protective of quality time” and “unwavering integrity.”
Learn why having just a handful of clearly-stated values provides a shared language and an anchor for decision-making—even for young kids.

Practical Tools You Can Use Today

Family ID offers bite-sized videos and workbooks to walk you through creating your own family identity, mission, and values—accessible online, easy to do in short sittings, and free from cost barriers.
The Family ID process includes resources to ensure every voice—including your kids’—is heard as you clarify and celebrate your unique family strengths.

Notable Quotes & Moments

“When you know who you are, you’ll know what to do.” – Derek England
“Our family didn’t start with us, and it won’t end with our kids.” – Derek England
“Where there is a lack of vision, the people perish… Where there’s a lack of vision for your family, it won’t thrive.” – Catherine

Anecdotes That Hit Home

Catherine shares how her daughter discovered a laser-focus and passion in Civil Air Patrol after struggling with direction—a real-life testimony to the power of clarifying vision.
Families are reminded that it’s never too late, quoting: “The best time to plant a tree is ten years ago. The second best time is today.”

Why This Conversation Is Essential for Christian Parents

In an era of fractured schedules and constant distractions, this episode equips parents to reclaim the sacred calling of the family—to be the primary place of discipleship, love, and generational impact. Whether your home feels harmonious, focused, or a work in progress, you’ll come away with both hope and practical tools to lead your family with vision and unity.

About the Guest:
Derek England serves as Executive Director of Family ID, a ministry devoted to helping families worldwide build intentional and faith-filled homes. With over two decades of expertise—and his own journey transformed through the Family ID process—he’s passionate about helping parents move from reaction to intentionality.

Are you ready to answer: “Who are we?”
Visit family-id.com to take the free family identity assessment and begin building your family mission today.

Your Call To Action:
How would your family change if you decided today to live with intention? Why not gather for dinner this week and ask, “Who are we—really?” Take the Family ID assessment together and start a new chapter of purpose-driven parenting.

Don’t drift—build! Your family is worth it.

Resources/Links

Family ID – Free Family Identity Assessment & Master Class
Discover your unique family type, core values, and intentional strategies to build a faith-filled home using the Family ID online assessment and resources.
Catherine Segars’ Free Resources for Christian Parents
Access devotionals, scripture lists, articles, and tools to help you thrive as a Christian parent in today’s world.

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Handing Gen Z the Mic: A Graduate Defined by Christ, Not Culture (w/ Charis Shoemaker) - Ep. 187 Jul 13, 2026

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Who Gets to Define the Next Generation? Gen Z Finds Its Voice—and Its Anchor—in Christ

Is Gen Z lost in the noise of culture, media, and politics—or are they quietly forging a radical new path of faith? In this powerful episode, Catherine sits down with high school senior and gifted poet Charis Shoemaker to explore how today’s young Christians are wrestling with identity, truth, and calling in an ever-fractured world. If you wonder what the next generation truly believes, and how Christian parents can encourage their kids to pursue God in the midst of cultural chaos, this is an episode you cannot afford to miss.

About Our Guest:
Charis Shoemaker is no ordinary teenager. A state award-winning actress, an eloquent poet, and—most importantly—a passionate follower of Christ, she represents a new wave of young believers speaking up for authentic faith. Charis’ original poem, “They Say,” recently brought a packed house to their feet at her homeschool graduation, voicing the hopes and struggles of a generation determined to follow Christ—no matter the cost.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

Gen Z Under the Microscope
Listen as Charis shares firsthand what it’s like to grow up constantly defined—often unfairly—by societal labels, politics, and the relentless barrage of social media. In an era of fractured opinions, what do young people really hear about who or what they’re supposed to be?
The Power of Godly Influence
Charis opens up about her own journey, including profound family challenges and the steady faith of her mother, a night-shift nurse who made time for Scripture and prayer no matter how hard life got. Her story testifies to the quiet resilience that shapes faith behind the scenes.
A Poetic Anthem for Gen Z
Hear Charis' captivating poem, “They Say,” in full. Her words challenge generational stereotypes and culture’s attempts to define identity—while serving as an anthem for those who choose to be defined not by people, but by the voice of God.

“If my life is to revolve around opinions, I would much rather they come from a God who is preeminent than a people who are insignificant... I would much rather they be words spoken by the Word who became flesh for me.” – Charis Shoemaker, 19:15
Dealing with Church Hurt and Pain
Charis recounts personal battles—including abuse and disappointment with the Church—and how those wounds could have derailed her faith. Yet, she found hope, healing, and her truest identity in Jesus. Parents will find wisdom here for helping kids process pain with grace rather than anger or withdrawal.
Who Gets to Define Us?
The conversation zeroes in on the theme of authority, urging listeners to ask tough questions: Is our identity determined by culture, by the Church, by ourselves—or solely by God, the Creator who names us and calls us His own?
Hope Rising in Gen Z
Contrary to stereotypes, Charis reveals that a growing number of her peers are returning to church and hungry for real, unfiltered truth. She challenges parents not to underestimate Gen Z's capacity—and desire—for deep faith, and encourages both generations to risk bold, loving conversations about what matters most.

“There’s a generation coming up after you that wants truth…Be there for us. Give us that thing to hold on to.” – Charis Shoemaker, 53:38

Why This Matters:
In a season when so much is said about the failures and fears of the next generation, this episode highlights a surprising undercurrent: Gen Z isn’t just walking away—they’re wrestling, seeking, and often returning to the God who defines them. Catherine and Charis Shoemaker’s honest exchange offers hope to every parent praying for their child’s faith journey.

Memorable Moments:

The story of Charis Shoemaker's friend whose final words were simply, “Trust Jesus”—a moving reminder of the enduring legacy of authentic faith (35:33).
An inspiring encounter with a peer who worships “mother earth” and how open conversation sows seeds of truth and friendship (52:53).
The recognition that every generation faces labels, but the only voice that matters is God’s.

Modern Application:
Christian parents, take heart! The next generation is listening, watching, and longing for truth—especially from you. Your example, prayers, and honest conversations matter more than ever. As you foster their search for identity, remember: God alone must anchor our children in a world desperate to define them.

Call to Action:
How are you helping your children—or the young people in your life—listen to God’s voice above all others? This week, try having an open conversation about identity and faith at home. Share your own story, and invite them to share theirs—uncut, unfiltered, and real.

Resources Mentioned:

“Gay Girl, Good God” by Jackie Hill Perry
The Narrow Road (song by Reagan James Boone)

Let us know: How are you equipping your family to anchor their identity in Christ, not in what “they say”? Share your thoughts and experiences with us on social media, or email your parenting questions for future episodes!

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Exploring the Biblical Roots of Freedom (w/ Os Guinness) - Archive Ep. 95 Jul 06, 2026

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In an age when the foundations of freedom are being shaken around the world, this episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World asks a pivotal question: Can freedom last if we forget where it truly comes from? Far beyond politics or constitutions, is it possible to have real liberty apart from God?

Catherine welcomes world-renowned author, philosopher, and social critic Os Guinness for a thought-provoking conversation that every parent needs to hear. Os Guinness holds a doctorate in philosophy from Oxford and has authored more than 30 books, including The Magna Carta of Humanity: Sinai’s Revolutionary Faith and the Future of Freedom. Few voices are better equipped to explore the intersection of faith, freedom, and society.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode

The True Origin of Freedom: Dive into the biblical roots of liberty as Os Guinness explains why the foundation of our freedom is found not in political documents, but in the Genesis declaration that every human bears the image of God. This “Magna Carta for humanity” has shaped Western civilization and remains the bedrock for genuine human dignity and rights.
Freedom’s Decline—and Hope for Renewal: With authoritarianism on the rise and Western society in decline, Os Guinness calls for a return to the sustaining truths found in Scripture. He unpacks why evil, injustice, and oppression are not to be accepted as normal or final, but always fought in the name of the God who freely creates and redeems.
Can We Keep Our Freedom? Os Guinness shares his "golden triangle" of freedom—freedom requires virtue, virtue requires faith, and faith requires freedom—pointing out that each is under assault in today's culture.
The Power of Family Stories: In a stirring insight, Os Guinness recalls how, on the night of the Exodus, Moses didn’t speak of freedom, but of children. The stories shared in our homes, he argues, are the key to both personal identity and the future of nations—a reminder that parents play a vital, irreplaceable role in transmitting truth to the next generation.
Practical Hope for Parents: Catherine and Os Guinness urge parents not to underestimate the power of daily faithfulness—praying, teaching, modeling, and talking with your children about God’s story. These small, seemingly ordinary acts are what shape the leaders and culture-changers of tomorrow.

Notable Quotes & Moments

“Freedom has everything to do with faith, not fate. Slavery is the norm in history, and abolition is the exception.” — Os Guinness

“The stories parents tell to their children are the key to identity and the key to continuity.” — Os Guinness

“We are the creative minority… We’ve gotta be that with courage and confidence and know that under the Lord, it will make a difference.” — Os Guinness

Why This Matters

At a time when culture and education are shifting rapidly, this episode is a clarion call for Christian parents: the future of faith and freedom lies in your hands. The conversations you have, the scriptures you teach, and the faith you live out day by day can transform generations.

Modern Application

Moms and dads, never underestimate your influence. Building your family on the unchanging truth of Scripture, you hold the key to preserving not only your children’s faith but the very foundations of liberty for the future.

About the Guest

Os Guinness (born 1941) is an English author, theologian, and social critic. Born in China to medical missionaries, he witnessed the 1949 revolution. Educated at the University of London and Oxford, he has written over 30 books—including The Call and The Magna Carta of Humanity—and founded the Trinity Forum

Episode Links

The Magna Carta of Humanity by Os Guinness
Os Guinness Website: ozguinness.com
Additional resources for Christian parents: catherinesegars.com

Reflect & Discuss

How are you passing on the story of God’s freedom to your children? In what ways can your family life become a “creative minority” that shapes the next generation for truth and liberty? Share your thoughts, start the conversation at home, and let’s become the few who make the difference.

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America's 250th: What Makes a Nation Truly Free? (w/ Os Guinness) - Archive Ep. 93 Jun 29, 2026

Show notes

Is America losing the true meaning of freedom? As we celebrate the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, this urgent episode probes the foundations of liberty, the threats facing our nation, and what it takes to safeguard freedom for our children and generations to come.

In a riveting and timely conversation, host Catherine welcomes Dr. Os Guinness—esteemed philosopher, prolific author of 30+ books, and Oxford-educated scholar—on Christian Parent/Crazy World. As one of the last surviving Western eyewitnesses to the Chinese Communist Revolution, Os Guinness brings a one-in-eight-billion perspective on Marxism, the power of faith amid crisis, and the unique roots of American freedom.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

The Origins of True Freedom

Explore why the American experiment stands apart from every other revolution in history, and how its “ordered freedom” is rooted not in Enlightenment thinkers, but in the biblical model of the Hebrew Republic (13:42).
Discover the “Golden Triangle of Freedom”—the idea that freedom requires virtue, virtue requires faith, and faith requires freedom—and why this cycle is essential for a nation to remain free (05:21).

Firsthand Testimony from History’s Crucible

Hear Os Guinness recount surviving the trauma and reign of terror in Communist China as a child, witnessing trials, executions, and famine that claimed the lives of his own brothers (07:47, 11:28).
Learn how his experiences shaped an unflinching realism about Marxism and the dangers of revolutionary utopianism (09:09).

Dueling Revolutions: Bible vs. Enlightenment

Unpack the stark contrast between the American and French Revolutions—their sources, their visions of justice, and why one led to ordered liberty while the other spiraled into totalitarianism (18:25).

The “Long March” Through Culture

Grasp the strategies used by cultural Marxists to capture education, media, law, family, and religion—aiming to reshape the very core of society (28:02).
Understand why so many college-bound Christian kids lose their faith, and the urgent need for Christian parents to cultivate resilient worldviews in their children (28:53).

Why Freedom Is Fragile—And How to Guard It

Be warned: “Freedom is the great enemy of freedom. When we misuse freedom, we will eventually lose it.” (42:10)
Hear the powerful call to Christian citizens—why voting, cultural engagement, and long-haul disciple-making in families and churches matter now more than ever (34:38).

Quotable Moments & Anecdotes

“Freedom is not the permission to do what you like. Freedom is the power to do what you ought.” (41:13)
The story of Derek Prince’s prayer for a leader in WWII—and how God answered, changing the course of history (37:37).

Why This Matters for Christian Parents:
Our children are being taught that freedom means “license”—the ability to do whatever we want. This episode powerfully reframes freedom as a God-given power and responsibility to do what is right. As parents, understanding and passing on the true source and nature of freedom is nothing less than essential—because only faith-fueled virtue can preserve liberty.

About Dr. Os Guinness:
With a doctorate in philosophy from Oxford, Os Guinness is globally recognized for his insight into faith, freedom, and society. Raised in China and forged amid revolution, his lifetime of scholarship and firsthand experience make him uniquely qualified to speak on the future of freedom. His latest book, The Magna Carta of Humanity: Sinai’s Revolutionary Faith and the Future of Freedom, provides the roadmap for this conversation.

Episode Links & Resources:

The Magna Carta of Humanity: Sinai's Revolutionary Faith and the Future of Freedom by Os Guinness
Os Guinness website
Catherine's Parenting Resources

A Call to Action:
What are you doing to plant deep-rooted seeds of faith and freedom in your children? As America stands at a crossroads, how will your family uphold the true foundations of liberty in a culture drifting from its source? Join the conversation—because lasting freedom begins at home.

Don’t miss next week’s archive episode as Catherine and Os Guinness explore the breath-taking biblical truth that every human is made in the image of God—and what that means for the future of freedom.

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Three Lessons That Will Shape Your Child for Life - Archive Ep. 88 Jun 22, 2026

Show notes

Every parent wants their kids to thrive, but what if the key to their success isn’t just grades or good behavior, but the life lessons we pass on? It’s not just important—it’s essential.

Episode Overview

In this deeply personal and practical episode, Catherine unpacks the three biggest life lessons every parent must teach their kids, weaving wisdom from her years as a performer, mother, and follower of Christ. Drawing from her unique background in theater and comedy improv, Catherine reveals how these powerful truths have shaped her own journey and can equip families to navigate an unpredictable world.

Through heartfelt stories and moments of humor—including the hilarious tale of how pretending to be a British exchange student launched her acting career—Catherine demonstrates how the unpredictable nature of improv mirrors real life. She brings home the point that life rarely goes according to our script, but our response makes all the difference.

The Three Life Lessons

You can't choose what happens to you, but you can choose how you respond.
Life throws curveballs—sometimes it’s a dashed dream, a difficult diagnosis, or a sudden job loss. Drawing from both personal experiences and touching examples, Catherine encourages parents (and their kids) to focus on their response rather than circumstances. [See: 11:02]
Accept what happens and build.
The secret of successful improv—and life—is to accept what you’re given and build on it. Catherine shows how this principle, grounded in biblical truth, calls us not to live in denial or despair, but to trust that God can work with whatever comes our way, using disappointment and surprise for something greater. [See: 14:08]
Allow God to turn mistakes into masterpieces.
Sometimes the biggest mistake sparks our greatest victory. With moving real-life stories—like a stage mishap that became an improv masterpiece and a heartbreaking miscarriage that ultimately led to miraculous new life—Catherine illustrates how, when we surrender our failures to God, He can redeem them beyond what we imagined. [See: 20:33]

Why These Lessons Matter

Parents don’t have the power to control everything in their children’s lives, but they can equip them with a mindset rooted in faith, resilience, and hope. These lessons go beyond advice—they’re lifelines for navigating a broken world with confidence that God is always at work, even in the mess.

Memorable Quote

“It’s often the mistake that turns into a masterpiece.” — Catherine [See: 20:38]

Episode Resources

Catherine’s Website Resources:
https://catherinesegars.com/resources
Access free resources for Christian parents, including the Prodigal Bundle, “Beyond the Lies” ebook, scripture lists, and more.

Call to Action:
How has God turned a mistake or unexpected challenge in your life into a masterpiece? Share your story or reflect on what lesson God may want your family to “build on” right now!

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