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    Change Starts Here

    Change Starts Here, presented by FranklinCovey Education, is the podcast for K–12 school and district leaders who are shaping—or ready to lead—meaningful change in their schools and communities. Through interviews with innovative educators and research-backed insights, each episode explores how to build leadership at all levels, foster high-trust school cultures, and achieve breakthrough results around what matters most. This podcast offers practical ideas and bold thinking to help you create lasting impact in your school community. Explore the episodes and dive into real stories, proven strategies, and the leadership mindset that transforms schools. This is your space for inspiration, clarity, and action. Real change starts here.

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    The Greatest Threat to Your Leadership Aug 18, 2026
    Show notes

    In the season seven premiere of Change Starts Here, Dustin Odham asks a critical question: "What is the greatest threat to our leadership?" While it’s easy to point to external factors like budgets, teacher shortages, or politics, Dustin argues that the real danger lies within the internal conversations leaders have with themselves. Drawing on his own experiences, including a moment of deep reflection in a hospital bed, Dustin explores how leaders often mistake performance for identity, carrying the weight of unnecessary pressure.


    Listeners will be challenged to evaluate their internal dialogue and consider whether they would allow someone to speak to their team the way they speak to themselves. This episode sets the tone for the upcoming season, emphasizing that healthy leadership begins from the inside out. By focusing on who they are becoming rather than just what they are accomplishing, leaders can build healthier cultures, achieve extraordinary results, and truly transform the lives of their students.


    Host: Dustin Odham (FranklinCovey Education)


    Timestamps:

    00:00 Podcast intro

    01:15 Building a community of leaders

    02:10 Leadership is a privilege

    03:38 The greatest threat to leadership

    05:03 The inner critic

    06:23 Carrying unnecessary pressure

    07:21 The hypocrisy of educational leaders

    08:21 Stephen Covey's Private Victory

    09:26 Why Dustin wears black

    11:34 A life-changing hospital stay

    12:32 Performance vs identity

    14:05 How do you speak to yourself?

    15:01 Change starts inside


    Return With Clarity: A Summer Leadership Challenge Jun 02, 2026
    Show notes

    In the season 6 finale of Change Starts Here, Dustin Odham invites educators and leaders to rethink their summer break. While taking time off is crucial for physical recovery, Dustin challenges listeners to aim for true renewal and clarity. By applying Dr. Covey's 7th Habit, "Sharpen the Saw," leaders can intentionally renew themselves mentally, physically, emotionally, and spiritually.

    Listeners are challenged to take one uninterrupted day alone this summer to pause and reflect. Dustin guides leaders through a powerful internal process: starting with gratitude rather than problem-solving, identifying personal "genius" to avoid disconnecting from their true selves, and defining a lasting leadership legacy. By crafting or refining a personal mission statement, educators can ensure they return in the fall not just rested, but deeply intentional.

    Download the Handout, Reflection and Mission Statement Guide: https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/csh_summer-reflectio?x=bfYNCN

    Hosts:

    Dustin Odham (FranklinCovey Education)

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Podcast intro

    01:06 Wrapping up the season

    02:28 The weight educators carry

    03:20 Habit 7 Sharpen the saw

    04:54 Start with gratitude

    05:51 Reflect on your genius

    06:52 Define your legacy

    08:11 Your personal mission statement

    09:19 Rest deeply and reflect

    10:39 Closing the season


    What To Do With The Year You Just Had May 27, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode of Change Starts Here, Kim Yaris and Dr. Eve Miller explore how educators and leaders can effectively transition out of a demanding school year. Drawing on a Yale study, they discuss how a leader's ability to manage their own emotions directly impacts the well-being of their staff. Because of "emotion contagion theory," the emotional residue leaders carry out of the spring can set the tone for the entire school environment in the fall.

    Listeners will discover why end-of-year recovery is an essential part of leadership, rather than optional self-care. The conversation highlights three research-backed practices: savoring positive moments to combat exhaustion , using narrative identity to make meaning of difficult experiences rather than ruminating on them , and engaging in the challenging but necessary practice of mentally disengaging from work. By leaning into self-compassion, educators can process the year, recover fully, and prepare a healthier emotional climate for the future.

    Download the Handout:

    https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/podcast_handout_s6e37?x=Z0wt6j

    Hosts:

    Kim Yaris, M.Ed. Associate Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education

    Dr. Eve Miller (Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education)

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Podcast intro

    00:42 Transitions for adults

    01:30 The reality of exhaustion

    03:00 Yale wellbeing study

    03:47 Emotion contagion theory

    05:08 Recovery is leadership

    06:06 Practice one savoring

    08:52 When savoring matters most

    09:58 The savoring prompt

    11:06 Practice two narrative identity

    13:58 Meaning making versus rumination

    15:01 Three reflection questions

    16:51 Practice three mental disengagement

    18:36 Nervous system discomfort

    19:38 The power of self-compassion

    20:56 Closing thoughts




    The Gift of Pause When Leading What’s Next May 19, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode of Change Starts Here, Dustin Odham sits down with global leadership expert and executive coach Victoria Roos Olsson to discuss the importance of pausing at the end of a busy school year. While exhausted leaders often want to rush to the finish line or immediately tackle the next challenge, Victoria explains why using the end of a season for reflection is vital for sustainable success.

    Listeners will discover how to ask more effective questions and evaluate the past year through creative exercises, such as having their team draw their experiences. Victoria also shares practical strategies for re-energizing staff, from conducting walking meetings to providing reflective summer assignments. Ultimately, this conversation serves as a powerful reminder that leadership is a human endeavor, and slowing down is often the key to moving forward effectively.

    Get your copy of The 6 Critical Practices for Leading a Team:

    https://www.amazon.com/Everyone-Deserves-Great-Manager-Practices/dp/1982112077

    Hosts:

    Dustin Odham (Host)

    Victoria Roos-Olssen. Global Leadership Expert, Executive Coach, & Bestselling Author

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Podcast intro

    02:46 Victoria's leadership journey

    04:34 The power of reflection

    08:16 Finishing the race strong

    12:38 Questions as power tools

    14:21 Drawing the school year

    17:22 Re-energizing your team

    21:16 The extended mind

    24:44 Craving our own imbalances

    29:16 Creating leadership habits

    35:35 A healthy summer reset

    38:37 Human side of leadership

    42:03 Closing thoughts


    Endings That Stick May 12, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode of Change Starts Here, Kim Yaris and Dr. Eve Miller discuss the final weeks of the school year, a time typically filled with tying up loose ends, cleaning up, and the temptation to just pop in a movie. However, research shows that how a year ends disproportionately shapes how students will remember the entire experience.

    Drawing on Daniel Kahneman's famous "peak-end rule" and Crystal Park's research on meaning-making, the hosts explain that it isn't enough for an ending to just be positive; it has to feel meaningful. Students who can articulate what they learned from turning points show higher well-being years later. To help educators end the year with intention, Kim and Eve offer two practical, research-backed moves: planning the last week backward from a final shared moment, and providing a structured reflection for students to make sense of their year.

    Download the Handout

    Handout: https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/podcast_handout_epis-35?x=whj9VQ

    Hosts:

    Kim Yaris, M.Ed. (Associate Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education)

    Dr. Eve Miller (Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education)


    Timestamps:

    00:00 Podcast intro

    00:15 The end of year

    01:22 Temptation to coast

    02:29 Why endings matter

    03:54 The peak end rule

    06:02 Remembering school years

    08:06 Meaning making research

    09:26 Practice one plan backward

    11:24 Practice two structured reflection

    13:21 The impact of reflection

    14:21 Closing thoughts


    3 Practices to Make the Last 30 Days Count May 05, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode of Change Starts Here, Dustin Odham challenges the "spring fever" mentality that sweeps through schools during the final stretch of the year. Rather than just counting down the days and winding down expectations, Dustin urges leaders and educators to finish with intention. Sharing a powerful story about "legacy projects" at Mechanics Grove Elementary, he illustrates how giving students ownership and purpose can completely transform the energy of a building.

    Reflect on what your students will truly remember about the school year and learn three simple, actionable moves to maximize the final 30 days: naming the moment to elevate its significance, creating ownership through contribution, and celebrating impact and effort over mere compliance. Make sure the end of the year feels meaningful, not just survived.

    Host: Dustin Odham (FranklinCovey Education)

    Timestamps:

    00:00 The final stretch

    00:37 The spring fever mindset

    01:27 Legacy projects in action

    01:59 What changed?

    03:14 Making the end meaningful

    03:45 What will they remember?

    05:01 The year in review

    06:12 Three actionable moves

    07:15 Change how the story ends

    08:42 Closing


    What's Really Happening With AI in Schools? Apr 28, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode of Change Starts Here, Kim Yaris and Dr. Eve Miller tackle a topic that leaves many educators feeling overwhelmed: Artificial Intelligence in schools. Looking past the sensational headlines, they dive deep into recent survey data from organizations like RAND, Pew, and Brookings to uncover the reality of how AI is actually showing up in classrooms.

    The research reveals a startling truth, ignoring AI or instituting complete bans doesn't stop students from using these tools, it simply removes adult guidance. Kim and Eve discuss the phenomenon of "covert AI use," where both teachers and students are utilizing AI in secret due to a lack of clear policies and training. To help leaders navigate this massive shift, the hosts share three practical strategies that require no district mandate to implement: starting with student thinking before introducing the tool, visibly modeling imperfect AI use, and fiercely protecting the irreplaceable human skills of relationships and coaching.

    Download the Handouts:

    Handout: https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/podcast_handout_ep33?x=Dw_9TF

    Staff Booster: https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/fy26_csh-rc_lim_staff-e33?x=Dw_9TF

    Hosts:

    Kim Yaris, M.Ed. (Associate Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education)

    Dr. Eve Miller (Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education)


    Timestamps:

    (00:00 - 01:15) The AI conversation

    (01:15 - 02:53) Looking at the data

    (02:53 - 04:56) The AI policy landscape

    (04:56 - 07:37) Climbing student usage

    (07:37 - 10:27) Why schools stay silent

    (10:27 - 13:44) Covert AI use

    (13:44 - 15:53) The stakes of inaction

    (15:53 - 18:38) Practice 1: Thinking first

    (18:38 - 20:33) Practice 2: Visible use

    (20:33 - 21:53) Practice 3: Human skills

    (21:53 - 23:08) Closing thoughts


    The Truth About School Culture Apr 21, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode of Change Starts Here, Dustin Odham sits down with Todd Nesloney, Director of Culture and Strategic Leadership for the Texas Elementary Principals and Supervisors Association (TEPSA). Todd shares his insights on what a thriving school culture actually looks and feels like, going beyond test scores and bulletin boards to the fundamental human experiences of feeling seen, heard, and valued.

    Todd gets real about his own transition from the classroom to school administration, challenging the "martyr complex" that leads so many passionate educators to burnout. He encourages leaders to embrace their authentic selves, treat adults with the same grace and connection they offer students, and to stop overcomplicating their roles. Listeners will walk away with practical advice on how to empower their teams, the importance of expanding their professional networks outside their own district, and the courage to take risks—and own the failures that follow.

    Interested in the TEPSA Summer Conference? Learn more & register:

    https://www.tepsa.org/summer-conference/summer-conference/


    Connect with Todd: https://www.toddnesloney.com/

    Host: Dustin Odham (FranklinCovey Education)

    Guest: Todd Nesloney (Director of Culture and Strategic Leadership, TEPSA)

    Timestamps:

    (00:00 - 02:46) Intro and welcome

    (02:46 - 05:01) Meet Todd Nesloney

    (05:01 - 08:16) Assessing school culture

    (08:16 - 12:45) Seen, heard, and valued

    (12:45 - 18:04) Finding the time for connection

    (18:04 - 23:14) The educator martyr complex

    (23:14 - 27:36) Redefining leadership meetings

    (27:36 - 32:29) Patterns of high performance

    (32:29 - 36:55) Teaching adults like kids

    (36:55 - 44:06) Empowering your team

    (44:06 - 47:35) Expand your network

    (47:35 - 51:56) Walk up songs

    (51:56 - 54:42) You are meant to be here


    Are We Asking the Wrong Questions About Student Well-Being? Apr 14, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode of Change Starts Here, Kim Yaris and Dr. Eve Miller dive into the critical topic of student well-being, especially relevant as climate survey data rolls in for the end of the year. While most schools measure happiness and meaningfulness, Dr. Miller highlights groundbreaking research by Erin Westgate and Shigehiro Oishi that introduces a third, often overlooked dimension: "psychological richness".

    Listeners will discover what psychological richness is, experiences that fundamentally shift how you see the world, and why it is distinct from both happiness and meaning. The hosts explain how a school might score perfectly on happiness metrics while still leaving students feeling like they're just going through the motions. They offer three highly practical ways for educators to build psychological richness into their daily routines: asking the right reflective questions, making perspective shifts visible, and actively seeking out unfamiliar viewpoints.


    Handout: https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/podcast_handout_epis-31?x=mRNVAO Staff Booster: https://resources.franklincovey.com/c/lim_staffbooster_epi31?x=mRNVAO


    Hosts:

    Kim Yaris, M.Ed. (Associate Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education)

    Dr. Eve Miller (Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education)


    Timestamps:

    (00:00 - 01:42) School Climate surveys

    (01:42 - 03:35) Psychological richness

    (03:35 - 05:04) Richness vs rigor

    (05:04 - 06:31) Tracking perspective change

    (06:31 - 08:31) Why richness matters

    (08:31 - 10:24) Missing wellbeing metrics

    (10:24 - 11:48) Purpose and richness

    (11:48 - 13:58) Practice 1: Add the third question

    (13:58 - 16:01) Practice 2: Make the shift visible

    (16:01 - 18:09) Practice 3: Unfamiliar perspectives

    (18:09 - 19:49) Designing deliberately


    Finishing the School Year Strong Apr 07, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode of Change Starts Here, Dustin Odham addresses the unique challenge of the final stretch of the school year. When testing season arrives and the finish line is in sight, there's a natural temptation for educators to coast. But Dustin explains why the most critical moments for leadership, culture, and student impact happen right now, when everyone is tired.

    Drawing inspiration from sports psychology and the first modern Olympic marathon, Dustin challenges leaders and teachers to lean into the fatigue rather than drift through it. He re-frames testing not as a punishment, but as a responsibility to ensure every student is learning. This episode is a powerful reminder that people rarely remember how something started; they remember how it finished. Listeners will walk away inspired to recommit to their expectations and remind their teams that the work they are doing right now still matters.

    Host: Dustin Odham (FranklinCovey Education)


    Timestamps:

    (00:00 - 01:26) The quiet temptation

    (01:26 - 02:01) The hardest part

    (02:01 - 03:20) The 1896 Olympic marathon

    (03:20 - 04:20) The final stretch

    (04:20 - 05:07) Reframing state testing

    (05:07 - 05:58) The lie of April

    (05:58 - 07:22) Fatigue exposes character

    (07:22 - 08:06) Competitive greatness

    (08:06 - 09:39) A challenge for educators

    (09:39 - 11:10) Finish strong


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