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    Catching Foxes

    Luke and Gomer became friends Freshman year at the Franciscan University of Steubenville and 14 years later they started a podcast. The show oscillates between a conversation between just the two of us and interviews that we do together of other, fancier people. Sometimes we get explicit either by being too honest or by being too stupid. Either way, it’s fun!

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    Episode 93: You Have to Class Up Jun 09, 2017
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    We talk about work-as-email and Gomer's conflict with research reading. Youth Ministry, and the parish's constant tendency to segregate family, especially by age. We talk about the Art of Life and morality as taught by the Church. This leads us back to the community problem, but focusing on the demise of "The Lodge" and the American Legion type places. Then we talk about The Great Casualization (see show notes), Wonder Woman, The Marvel Cinematic Universe, and how Gomer is still scared to work out with Luke.

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    • Dress Up by G. Bruce Boyer | Articles | First Things — While not putting an emphasis on dress itself, most commentators who have discussed the relationship between the public and private person have made reference to both dress and manners when discussing the abandonment of the formal public self. And perhaps nowhere can the loss of public self be so readily seen as in the clothes we wear. One commentator remarked, “A ‘gentleman’ no longer tipped his symbolic hat to a ‘lady’ to show the conventional respect due her sex; he no longer had a hat to tip.” And no one doubts that the hat is gone, as well as the suit, the tie, and the polished leather oxford. The word I’m searching for is casualization.
    • ''The Avengers'' and Friedrich Nietzsche | Word On Fire — The Avengers is chock-a-block with Ubermenschen, powerful, willful people who assert themselves through technology and the hyper-violence that that technology makes possible. And the most remarkable instance of this technologically informed self-assertion is the creation of the savior figure, who self-identifies with the very words of Yahweh in the book of Exodus. But he is not the Word become flesh; instead, he is the coming together of flesh and robotics, produced by the flexing of the all too human will to power. I find it fascinating that this pseudo-savior was brought about by players on both sides of the divide, by both Iron Man and Ultron.
    • The Power in a Pause – How Fr. Robert Barron (Not Joss Whedon) Made the Vision into an Atheist. | Haunted by Humans — It is Ultron, not the Vision, that teaches us about nihilism. And guess what? He’s the bad guy. The only way for there to be peace is human extinction. Its Ultron who thinks he’s beyond good and evil, not the Vision. Where the Vision pauses to discover what is truly good -existence, friendship, kindness- Ultron acts without thought. Ultron declares himself the messiah. “I’m going to save the world,” he says. He’s a machine, utterly focused on his programming. Upon a rock of destruction will he build his church of death. Father Barron thinks that the Vision is presented as the herald of Nietzsche, that Joss Whedon is covertly trying to turn us into nihilists. Ultron is the herald here, and he sows and reaps destruction. He also loses in the end, and I’ve yet to see a scenario where losing attracts people to a cause.
    Episode 92: Manhood and Music with Ben Walther Jun 02, 2017
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    Ben Walther is a legend in our Household, AMDG. Ben is a man's man who is insanely positive and deeply prayerful. We had a great conversation about what it means to be a man, initiation rites and our lack thereof, dadlessness and the Father, and then we take a hard right turn into music. Luke brings up his new fave that he found out is both Christian and Queer and what that means. We end with me yelling at Ben to build something great online.

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    • Book | Wild at Heart — Every man was once a boy. And every little has dreams, big dreams, dreams of being the hero, of beating the bad guys, of doing daring feats and rescuing the damsel in distress. Every little girl has dreams, too: of being rescued by her prince and swept up into a great adventure, knowing that she is the beauty. But what happens to those dreams when we grow up? Walk into most churches, have a look around, and ask yourself: What is a Christian man? Without listening to what is said, look at what you find there. Most Christian men are . . . bored. John Eldredge revises and updates his best-selling, renowned Christian classic, Wild at Heart, and in it invites men to recover their masculine heart, defined in the image of a passionate God. And he invites women to discover the secret of a man’s soul and to delight in the strength and wildness men were created to offer.
    • Book | Iron John — In this timeless and deeply learned classic, poet and translator Robert Bly offers nothing less than a new vision of what it means to be a man. Bly's vision is based on his ongoing work with men, as well as on reflections on his own life. He addresses the devastating effects of remote fathers and mourns the disappearance of male initiation rites in our culture. Finding rich meaning in ancient stories and legends, Bly uses the Grimm fairy tale "Iron John"—in which a mentor or "Wild Man" guides a young man through eight stages of male growth—to remind us of ways of knowing long forgotten, images of deep and vigorous masculinity centered in feeling and protective of the young. At once down-to-earth and elevated, combining the grandeur of myth with the practical and often painful lessons of our own histories, Iron John is an astonishing work that will continue to guide and inspire men—and women—for years to come.
    • Book | No More Mr Nice Guy — Dr. Robert Glover has dubbed the "Nice Guy Syndrome" trying too hard to please others while neglecting one's own needs, thus causing unhappiness and resentfulness. It's no wonder that unfulfilled Nice Guys lash out in frustration at their loved ones, claims Dr. Glover. He explains how they can stop seeking approval and start getting what they want in life, by presenting the information and tools to help them ensure their needs are met, to express their emotions, to have a satisfying sex life, to embrace their masculinity and form meaningful relationships with other men, and to live up to their creative potential.
    • The Art of Manliness — Welcome to The Art of Manliness — a blog dedicated to uncovering the lost art of being a man. The historian and sociologist Lewis Mumford said, “Every generation revolts against its fathers and makes friends with its grandfathers.” AoM is a blog about growing up well, aimed at men and their unique challenges and interests. We explore all things manly — from the serious and philosophical to the practical and fun. We seek to uncover how to live with grandpa’s swagger, virtue, and know-how in the present age by wedding the best of the past to the best of the present. The end goal is to create a synergy of tradition and modernity that offers men a way forward and signposts on how to live an excellent, flourishing life. Ultimately, the Art of Manliness aims to encourage our readers to be better husbands, fathers, brothers, citizens — a new generation of great men.
    • Ben Walther Music — Catch a show with Ben Walther!
    • Ben Walther | Twitter — still learning that after all these years God just wants me to let Him love me better. i hope you can too.
    • Ben Walther Music | Facebook — Yeah, he really does suck at Facebook!
    • Ben Walther | Instagram — He's got 1,859 followers on Instagram. Let's give him that ol' Catching Foxes Bump and get it up to 1,865!
    Gomer Fails at Sex...again. May 26, 2017
    Show notes

    10 Minute Topics! We call it 10-minute topics, but we rarely stay within the 10-minute limit. I start off talking about my beautiful daughter who has a huge anxiety issue at the age of 5 and how I have no idea how to deal with it. Second, we thank the XLT Atlanta folks for an amazing time. Then we talk about Catholic Schools and their struggle with discipleship, finances, and Catholic identity. Next, I bring up the topic of sex, especially how much work it is to do it right. Seriously, people, it is exhausting sometimes. We also bring up the shenanigans at UST, gay vs. Same-sex attraction labels, and more!

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    • Catholic Education, John Paul Speaks, July 1998 — "THE GREATEST CHALLENGE" The greatest challenge to Catholic education in the United States today...is to restore to that culture the conviction that human beings can grasp the truth of things, and in grasping that truth can know their duties to God, to themselves and their neighbors. TRUE DISCIPLES The mission of the Catholic school is the integral formation of students, so that they may be true to their condition as Christ's disciples and as such work effectively for the evangelization of culture and for the common good of society. STUDENT LIBERATION Catholic education aims not only to communicate facts but also to transmit a coherent, comprehensive vision of life, in the conviction that the truths contained in that vision liberate students in the most profound meaning of human freedom.
    • Five Essential Marks of Catholic Schools — In a speech addressed to American Catholic educators in New Orleans, Pope John Paul II presented them with the pressing challenge of clearly identifying the aims of Catholic education, and applying proper methods in Catholic elementary and secondary education. . . . It is the challenge of fully understanding the educational enterprise, of properly evaluating its content, and of transmitting the full truth concerning the human person, created in God's image and called to life in Christ through the Holy Spirit.
    • Patreon: Support us monthly — Your support via Patreon makes sure Catching Foxes gets better and better.
    Episode 90: Sarah Nickel on Autism and Food Competitions May 19, 2017
    Show notes

    Sarah Nickel works with children, generally ages 3-15, who have autism. She also applies developmental psychology and behavioral analysis skills to manage her friendship with Luke. Yes, they are besties. No, it's not ALL inside jokes about their time together in Denver. But there is this one part about 35 minutes into it where we discover Luke cheated on a food competition.

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    • Temple Grandin (Trailer) - YouTube — Biopic of Temple Grandin, a woman with autism who overcame the limitations imposed on her to become an expert in the field of animal husbandry. She is noted for creating her 'hug box', widely recognized today as a way of relieving stress and her humane design for the treatment of cattle in processing plants, even winning an award from PETA. Today, she is a professor at Colorado State University.
    • Home | Autism Speaks — The Autism Response Team (ART) is specially trained to connect people with autism, their families, and caregivers to information, tools, and resources.
    • Adaptive Needs :: St. Anthony of Padua Catholic Church :: The Woodlands, TX — Our belief is that there are no disabled souls and that all persons deserve to be fully included as members of the community and all have gifts regardless of physical or cognitive limitations. Amazing Grace Ministry exists to provide opportunities for inclusion and true fellowship for persons with special needs, their families/supports, friends, and community members.
    Episode 89: Mr. Carey from the Archdiocese Stops In May 14, 2017
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    I politely asked Luke to leave his own apartment so that I could interview Mr. Carey from the Archdiocese of Cincinnati. Apparently, HR won't let them in the same room. Anywho, two church workers have an intelligent conversation about spiritual life as the center of the workplace. Yes, even meetings. ESPECIALLY MEETINGS!

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    • The Porn Myth — "The Porn Myth is a non-religious response to pro-pornography arguments. It draws from the experience of porn performers, recent research from neurology, sociology, and psychology to build a case for why pornography is destructive to individuals, relationships, and society. Matt Fradd provides insightful arguments, including the latest scientific research, on nearly every relevant subject imaginable, exposing the negative impact pornography has on our minds, our relationships, and our culture. This book addresses the neurological reasons porn is addictive, helps individuals learn how to be free of porn, and offers real help to parents and the spouses of porn users.
    • Debate: Is Pornography Harmful? — The Porn Myth — I recently engaged in an hour long radio debate on the topic of pornography with Charlotte Rose, a sexual freedom campaigner, and Adam Scarborough of the Campaign Against Censorship. There are so many things I wish I had said and a few things I wish I had not. Such is the nature of live debate. Nevertheless, I think it was a fruitful discussion.
    • Catching Foxes | Patreon — But if you feel like you want to contribute more, it will all go back into creating more stuff. We have big plans for the future of the show and would love for you to join us. After all, community is what we are all about!
    • Catching Foxes - Home — This is our Facebook page! You should follow it and write fun stuff on there.
    Episode 88: It's Like Your Confessions in High School May 05, 2017
    Show notes

    Luke grew up in the great place of Dayton, OH. It's a town that is a great place to be from, but not really be in. Luke talks about driving home for his worky work, but has no one in Dayton to go home to and no friends to visit. Plus, there's the crap about high school life. What was it with those people in high school who are just jerks for no reason? Well, after working with youth for years we realized everyone's got a reason.

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    Episode 87: Arleen and the $30,000 Breakup Apr 28, 2017
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    "If you're going to break up, Ash Wednesday is a great time to do it!" Luke and Arleen (no Gomer this week) talk about their cooky lives, the fun of dating, and the strange intimacy that comes with breaking up.

    Luke and Arleen trade breakup stories, but this is NOT a pity party. This is more about lessons learned and experiences reflected upon. Luke throws in some comments about maturity and Arleen talks about a profound healing experience after her first devastating breakup as an adult.

    Special Guest: Arleen Spenceley.

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    • Our Grounds for Hope by Fulton Sheen — Hope-filled reflections on the pain and suffering in our lives written with the characteristic wisdom of Fulton Sheen.
    • Arleen Spenceley | CatholicMatch Institute — Arleen Spenceley is author of Chastity is For Lovers: Single, Happy, and (Still) a Virgin (Ave Maria Press, Dec. 2014) and journalist. She has a master's degree in rehabilitation and mental health counseling from the University of South Florida and a bachelor's degree in journalism from the same university. She blogs at arleenspenceley.com and tweets @ArleenSpenceley. Click here to like her on Facebook.
    • The funeral. | Arleen Spenceley — In a chapel at a Catholic parish on a Friday, I knelt at my seat a few feet in front of the altar, during adoration. I wanted to pray, but got distracted by a casket.
    • The miracle. | Arleen Spenceley — Because pain isn’t the problem. It’s a path. “Did I not tell you that if you believe you will see the glory of God?” he said to Mary and Martha, before He brought their brother back to life. Pain leads to belief, in who He is. It leads to revelation, of His will — of what’s actually best for us. It prepares us to be whatever God needs us to be.
    • Arleen Spenceley | Writer — Single, Happy, and (Stil) a Virgin.
    • Catching Foxes - Home — Owning your Okayness!
    • Gomer and Luke are creating Catching Foxes | Patreon — Tired of consuming, we decided to create. And you listened, which is kind of amazing. So, we are going all in and creating the type of show you've always wanted.
    Episode 86: CryFire Every Two Years Apr 21, 2017
    Show notes

    Luke and Gomer interview a buddy they knew while at college, but who wasn't a student. Yes, he was a townie. A dirty, dirty townie. If you listen to this I think you'll get why the Incarnation and the Sacraments are oh so necessary to a real, and really human, faith. And you'll see why we humans can totally screw things up.

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    • Cry Fire — Strangers" The first album from Cry Fire. Ten tracks of rock, soul, heartbreak and hard times.
    • Luke 7:38 RSVCE - and standing behind him at his feet, - Bible Gateway — and standing behind him at his feet, weeping, she began to wet his feet with her tears, and wiped them with the hair of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment.
    • Cry Fire | MySpace.com! — It's like stepping back in time, people...
    • Gomer and Luke are creating Catching Foxes | Patreon — We don't expect you to pay for our fancy lives. Your financial contribution is not required because we love that you listen to us in the first place! We are humbled by our fans. But if you feel like you want to contribute more, it will all go back into creating more stuff. We have big plans for the future of the show and would love for you to join us. After all, community is what we are all about! God love you! Gomer and Luke
    • Catching Foxes on Facebook — "Owning Your Okayness" Follow us on Facebook and you could win a prize in honor of our two year anniversary of being a thing.
    Episode 85: Our Communion of Saints Apr 14, 2017
    Show notes

    We do a quick and exhausting follow up to Katie Garcia's Visitation and Funeral that Gomer was able to attend. Then we talk a lot about how much we need God in our lives.

    We finally end it all by talking about ourselves- fitting- because IT'S OUR TWO YEAR ANNIVERSARY!!!! April 20 (yes, 4/20 potheads) in 2015 kicked off the Catching Foxes experiment and boy have we got a deal for you! In return for a Follow on Facebook, a Donation on Patreon, or a Review on iTunes, from you, our dear new listeners, we are giving away a brand new, fresh, and exciting 3 copies of friend-of-the-show Matt Fradd's new book, The Porn Myth by Ignatius Press. Matt is the friend that keeps on giving, and we're open to taking. Constantly. So thank you, Matt Fradd and Ignatius Press for celebrating our 2 year anniversary!

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    • Gomer and Luke are creating Catching Foxes | Patreon — We don't expect you to pay for our fancy lives. Your financial contribution is not required because we love that you listen to us in the first place! We are humbled by our fans. But if you feel like you want to contribute more, it will all go back into creating more stuff.
    • The Porn Myth — "The Porn Myth is a non-religious response to pro-pornography arguments. It draws from the experience of porn performers, recent research from neurology, sociology, and psychology to build a case for why pornography is destructive to individuals, relationships, and society. Matt Fradd provides insightful arguments, including the latest scientific research, on nearly every relevant subject imaginable, exposing the negative impact pornography has on our minds, our relationships, and our culture.
    • Sufjan Stevens, "Death With Dignity" (Official Audio) - YouTube — Sufjan Stevens, "Death With Dignity" (Official Audio)
    • XLT Atlanta > Friday Young Adults — FRIDAY YOUNG ADULT – THEME: [ID]ENTITY FEAT. SINGERS SARAH KROGER & IKE NDOLO; SPEAKER MICHAEL GORMLEY; and a LIVE RECORDING of your favorite podcast, and mine, CATCHING FOXES WITH GOMER AND LUKE!
    Episode 84: The Pain is a Part of the Happiness Apr 07, 2017
    Show notes

    This is an interesting episode. We start off being stupid, as is usual, then Luke takes us to a serious turn as we discuss the end-of-life of our young friend, Katie Garcia, whom we knew from college and who lives here in Houston about 30 minutes from me with her truly amazing husband and four kids.

    Luke mentioned A Severe Mercy, which reminded me of several scenes from the movie Shadowlands, which is about CS Lewis, AKA Jack and the passionate poet, Joy, that he marries knowing full well that she will die very soon from a terminal illness. Woven through the center of this episode, the movie tracks his life, his falling in love with Joy, and his time dealing with her death, especially with her son Douglas that she is leaving behind with Lewis.

    Apparently, at the time while we were recording this episode, Katie Garcia breathed her last. When I woke up the next morning Facebook posts came pouring in announcing her death. May perpetual light shine upon her.

    From our thoughts on her story, we move into discussing our culture’s experience of death and then getting older in general, and how that relates to our career decisions and restlessness.

    Finally, we end where we should, complaining about ministry and whining about how sucky everyone is compared to us, or at least compared to our delusional self-image.

    Please donate to Katie funeral fund, found in the show notes, to help her amazing husband handle the experiences, which will be in the tens of thousands of dollars. Thank you for walking this road with us.

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    • Home — Around 10pm tonight, my sweet Katie went home. She asked that everyone pray a Chaplet of Divine Mercy for the repose of her soul. At your next opportunity, I ask that you pray one, if nothing else than to honor her wishes. If you haven't prayed the Chaplet before, go here for a step-by-step. Thank you all so much for your prayers and support. We have been loved beyond anything I could have ever imagined. You have been in our prayers, and please know that Katie is now praying for you in eternity.
    • Katie Garcia: Funeral & Burial | Memorials & Funerals - YouCaring — The Story Funeral and Burial expenses for Katie Garcia, loving wife and mother of 4.
    • Katie Garcia: Q&A - Part 2 — Dreaming ahead...if your kids go to FUS which current household and/or dorm do you see them being in based on their present personalities? A: Who even knows what households are still around? John: Disciples of the Word Lily: Love of the Lamb (hands down - she has spunk, but such a sweet nature) Thomas: Knights of the Holy Queen Andrew: AMDG
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