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**Cafeteria Christian**

Cafeteria Christian started as a place for people who love Jesus but are so over the version of Christianity that forgets love, justice, and curiosity.

Hosted by Pastor Natalia Terfa and Pastor Emmy Kegler, the show is a mix of faith conversations, cultural commentary, and the beautiful, complicated mess of trying to follow Jesus in the real world. From biblical deep dives to big feelings about the world, Emmy and Natalia create a space where honesty and hope coexist.

Together, we’re reclaiming the term “Cafeteria Christian” — because when it comes to faith, you really can take what you like and leave the rest.

Latest Episodes:

#365 What Are Sacraments Anyway? Jun 08, 2026

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Emmy and Natalia talk about the sacraments, why we have them, and why they still matter.

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#364 Rupture and Repair Jun 01, 2026

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Emmy and Natalia talk about repair and why it matters in relationships, maybe now more than ever.

Rupture and Repair slidedeck (that was the basis of this conversation)

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#363 The Church's Weird Week May 18, 2026

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Natalia and Emmy talk about the 10 days between Ascension and Pentecost, and what they mean and what we're supposed to do with these lesser holy days.

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Meredith Anne Miller's VBS post

Natalia's Ascension Uplift

#362 A God of War? With Dr Michael Chan May 11, 2026

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Emmy and Natalia welcome back friend of God friend of the pod Dr Michael Chan to talk about what we are supposed to think and do when God is invoked to justify violence and war. Not for any current applications or anything just, you know, because.

Dr Chan's recommended reading:

Facing the Abusing God by David Blumenthal

Robert Jensen's commentary on Ezekiel

Luther's Left-handed Kingdom

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#361 I Want to Have a Different Conversation About AI May 04, 2026

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Gird your loins as Natalia brings forward a CONTROVERSIAL take (for Emmy) about AI. Is it possible to have a nuanced conversation about something so polarizing?

Church Anew Blog

AOC Video Referenced

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#360 Not All These Stories Are Fun Apr 27, 2026

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Emmy and Natalia talk about what to do with complicated or difficult or horrible stories in the Bible and if we can really, truly, set them aside and still be faithful?

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Article we reference

#359 Are We… Catholic now? Apr 20, 2026

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Emmy and Natalia talk about Pope Leo and how his message of peace is compelling but actually not that new and also what that means for those of us who may be wondering if agreeing with the Pope so much makes us Catholic.

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#358 That's NOT God Apr 13, 2026

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Emmy and Natalia talk about Artemis II and Pete Hegseth and while neither of those are Jesus, one of them is definitely closer.

Article Links:

God Deserves All the Glory - Arthur Holquin

Artemis II Is Competency... - Liz Plank

Pete Hegseth's Holy War - Julia Carrie Wong

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#357 Does Easter Pass the Vibe Check? With Laura Fanucci Mar 30, 2026

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Natalia welcomes author and speaker Laura Fanucci to the pod to talk about Easter and Holy Week and why we shouldn't let our culture define this day and season with candy and plastic when it's so much better.

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Find/follow Laura: www.laurakellyfanucci.com, Instagram, & motheringspirit.com

Laura's new book: Living Easter

Aaron's substack about moral injury and holy week

#356 You Can't Pray Away the Anything Mar 23, 2026

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Emmy and Natalia talk about healing and miracles and medicine and why none of them are mutually exclusive and also why this let-Jesus-take-the-wheel way of doing healthcare is not faithful but harmful.

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