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    Butter Pecan Podcast

    A podcast about race, food, and racist food. Join Kelly Nusz and Darryl Goodner in discussing the wild and ridiculous racist tropes in the food you know, and probably love. While also dismantling those tropes and creating something new.

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    Just Gravy 5: Polio, Pepperoni, and Pizza Rat Mar 30, 2021
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    Ready to listen to the goofiest re-telling of the history of polio and talk about pizza? How do those things even belong together? Listen to this bonus episode of a sleepy Darryl and a tired Kelly try to make sense of the racist science and policies that went along with the U.S. polio epidemic. We also talk about the delicious pizza Darryl made with bacon and pepperoni from Red Hog. Special guests include Spinelli the dog, and a mouse stalking Darryl's kitchen. Sources: African-Americans, Polio and Racial Segregation By Daniel J. Wilson, PhD Race and the Politics of Polio, Warm Springs, Tuskegee, and the March of Dimes By Naomi Rogers, PhD The History of Vaccines, An Educational resource By the College of Physicians of Philadelphia How the Poor Get Blamed for Disease by Elena Conis


    10. Fannie Lou Hamer (Part 2) Mar 16, 2021
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    Part 2 of Fannie Lou Hamer is a wild one - it tells the story worthy of the big screen (as you will hear us discuss). In short, Fannie Lou Hamer became a star in the Civil Rights movement, scared the pants off President Johnson, and built a farm co-op that provides a model for what we continue to strive for today. Special thanks to DJ LoveAlways for letting us use his art for this episodes' cover.


    9. Fannie Lou Hamer (Part 1) Mar 02, 2021
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    In the first part of this series, we learn about FLH's childhood in Mississippi including the struggles, and joy, she experienced growing up on a plantation. We take a look at some of the history surrounding her early years, and the rebellious steps she began to take to subvert the systems that kept her suppressed. Join us as we gush over one of our favorite Civil Rights (and Equal Food Access) leaders in U.S. history.


    Just Gravy 4: The Business of Being Black Feb 20, 2021
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    In this bonus episode, we take the opportunity to talk to a local black business owner who also happens to be co-host of this podcast - Darryl Goodner. Goodner is part owner of the ice cream shop Louisville Cream in Louisville, KY. We discuss what this past year has been like and the changes that have affected his business - the good and the bad and what it all means and feels like. Bear with the audio, we had to record remotely during an ice storm.


    8. Black n' Cheese Feb 09, 2021
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    From the year 1 AD to famed White House chef James Hemings to Condoleezza Rice, we track the long history of the dish mac n'cheese and how it became a staple in Black households. Darryl shares his own family's recipe and Kelly chews too loudly into the microphone.


    7. Dieting While Black (Part 2) Jan 27, 2021
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    Recorded in early January, Kelly and Darryl continue their conversation on fat phobia and black body image. We are a bit all over the place, skip around, and Kelly got a little drunk by the end. Did this episode take an extra day to edit and almost crash our computer? Yes to both of these.


    6. Dieting While Black (Part 1) Jan 19, 2021
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    We're back in 2021 to talk about dieting and body image. In this first installment on our two-parter on dieting, Darryl and Kelly talk about their own experiences with dieting and feelings of discomfort in their own bodies. We also interviewed New York dancer and Louisville, KY native, Leslie Cuyjet about her own experiences with dieting, feeling other, and making it to the top of that (figurative and literal) pyramid. Photo credit: Maria Baranova


    Just Gravy 3: Waldorf v. Watergate Dec 22, 2020
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    In this special holiday "Just Gravy" episode, Kelly and Darryl talk about the weird menu items served at their family's holiday dinners. They talk about what they know about the dishes and the potential problems with each dish that may inspire future episodes.


    5. Butter Pecan Ice Cream Dec 15, 2020
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    In what we are sure will be our first investigation into ice cream, Kelly and Darryl discuss how they came up with the idea for the show, their own relationship with the dessert, and some black facts about the tasty treat. We also discuss the "Ice Cream Truck Song" and the new replacement-song that just came out this summer by RZA.


    Just Gravy 2: The Henry Heinz Murder Dec 08, 2020
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    This has nothing to do with Coca-Cola, or even ketchup (Henry Heinz was not THAT "Heinz"), but it does have to with another interest of ours - murder! Listen as Kelly tells Darryl about the mystery behind the Heinz murder and the black man who was charged for it. Not about food, but definitely still racist.


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