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    Breaking Walls

    Breaking Walls: The Podcast on the History of American Network Radio Broadcasting.

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    BW - EP84: The Simple Art of Macabre—Mystery, Suspense, and Horror from Radio’s Best (1931 - 1982) [Rewind] May 15, 2025
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    This episode was originally released on 10/1/2018. While new episodes of Breaking Walls are on hiatus I'll be going back and posting the older episodes beginning with this episode on the birth of radio. ___________ In Breaking Walls Episode 84, it’s the Simple Art of Macabre, to your ears from the mouths of some of the best who ever produced radio’s stuff of nightmares. Highlights: • Why Do We Like To Be Scared? 
• What pre-dated the radio horror program in the United States of America? 
• The Witch’s Tale
• Cooper, Oboler, and Lights Out 
• Orson Welles, Himan Brown, and Bill Spier 
• Macabre Programming during World War II
 • How Transcription Advanced the radio mystery program 
• Escape, The Saint, and Vincent Price 
• ABC and The Clock 
• Quiet Please and Crime Classics
 • The Decline of the American audio drama in the 1950s
 • Attempts at horror revivals 
• Where we are today The WallBreakers: http://thewallbreakers.com Subscribe to Breaking Walls everywhere you get your podcasts. To support the show: http://patreon.com/TheWallBreakers The reading material used in today’s episode was: • The Encyclopedia of Old-Time Radio - by John Dunning • The Witch's Tale: Stories of Gothic Horror from the Golden Age of Radio - by Alonzo Dean Cole • The CBS Radio Mystery Theater Handbook by Martin Grams Jr’s and Gordon Payton • Forecast: Is there a Sponsor in a House by Martin Grams Jr. • The Museum of Broadcast Communications Encyclopedia of Radio - by Christopher H. Sterling • Dick Bertel and Ed Corcoran’s Golden Age of Radio programs can be found at goldenage-wtic.org • John Dunning’s Interviews can be found through the Old-Time Radio Researcher’s Library at OTRRLibrary.org. • Chuck Schaden’s interviews can be found at his site, SpeakingofRadio.com 
 Selected Music featured in today’s Episode was: • Seance on a Wet Afternoon composed by John Barry and rerecorded by Nic Raine * I’ve Got You Under My Skin - by Frank Sinatra


    BW - EP83: Sarnoff & Paley: Tainted Friendships, Tall Tales, Talent Raids, and TV (1934 - 1952) [Rewind] May 09, 2025
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    This episode was originally released on 9/1/2018. While new episodes of Breaking Walls are on hiatus I'll be going back and posting the older episodes beginning with this episode on the birth of radio. ___________ In Breaking Walls Episode 83, we focus the radio industry of the 1930s and 40s—especially on the career of David Sarnoff, as RCA’s network, NBC begins to lose its grip on the top spot in the broadcasting industry while they introduce Television. We’ll also focus on the introduction of new talent to the industry, and the CBS talent raids of 1948-1949. Highlights: • David Sarnoff announces the birth of TV at The 1939 World’s Fair 
• Edwin Howard Armstrong Invents FM 
• Television Experiments in the 1920s and 1930s 
• Sarnoff and Armstrong’s Crumbling Friendship • How World War II Stopped Television’s Commercial Expansion
 • William S. Paley’s Plan to make CBS the #1 Network 
• The Rise of Arthur Godfrey 
• Sarnoff’s Court Battles 
• The Death of Edwin Howard Armstrong
 • The CBS Talent Raids of 1948-49
 • Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis 
• The Simple Art of Macabre 
The WallBreakers: http://thewallbreakers.com Subscribe to Breaking Walls everywhere you get your podcasts. To support the show: http://patreon.com/TheWallBreakers The reading material used in today’s episode was: • The General: David Sarnoff & The Rise of the Communications Industry - by Kenneth Bilby • The Encyclopedia of Old-Time Radio - by John Dunning • Empire: William S. Paley & The Making of CBS - by Lewis J. 
 • The Museum of Broadcast Communications Encyclopedia of Radio - by Christopher H. Sterling • The Network - by Scott Wooley • As well as an article on Martin & Lewis from the August 2018 issue of SPERDVAC’s Radiogram, by Michael Hayde

 Selected Music featured in today’s Episode was: • Mr. Lucky, by Si Zentner • Begin the Beguine, by Artie Shaw and His Orchestra • Seance on a Wet Afternoon, arranged by John Barry


    BW - EP82: Depression, War, And The Birth of ABC (1932 - 1946) [Rewind] Apr 28, 2025
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    This episode was originally released on 8/1/2018. While new episodes of Breaking Walls are on hiatus I'll be going back and posting the older episodes. ___________ In Breaking Walls episode 82 we focus on the state of the radio broadcasting industry in the late 1930s and early 1940s, as Broadcasting booms while the world goes to War. Highlights: • Early days at NBC’s Radio City in New York • How Press Associations caused NBC and CBS to launch a news service • The Birth of the Mutual Broadcasting System and their Struggles • NBC Red and NBC Blue • The FCC and US Justice Department Get Involved with Radio • The Murrow Boys and Encroaching War in Europe • The War Comes Home • NBC sells The Blue Network • Norman Corwin and His World War II Work • Bing Crosby, Philco Radios, and Network Transcription • The Talent Raids of 1949 The WallBreakers: http://thewallbreakers.com Subscribe to Breaking Walls everywhere you get your podcasts. To support the show: http://patreon.com/TheWallBreakers The reading material used in today’s episode was: • The General: David Sarnoff & The Rise of the Communications Industry - by Kenneth Bilby • The Encyclopedia of Old-Time Radio - by John Dunning • Beating The Odds: The Untold Story Behind the Rise of ABC - by Leonard H. Goldenson with Marvin J. Wolf • Empire: William S. Paley & The Making of CBS - by Lewis J. Paper • The Museum of Broadcast Communications Encyclopedia of Radio - by Christopher H. Sterling As well as four articles from the archives of TIME Magazine: • HAPPY BIRTHDAY MBS - September 15, 1941 • Old Law v. New Thing - January 12, 1942 • Black & Blue - January 11, 1943 • Network Without Ulcers - April 21, 1947 Norman Corwin was with Chuck Schaden on August 8th, 1976. You can stream this interview and many others for free on Chuck’s site, Speakingofradio.com Selected Music featured in today’s Episode was: • Rudy Vallee - Brother Can You Spare A Dime • Jaqueline Schwab - The Minstrel Boy & The Battle Cry for Freedom • Bing Crosby - Blues in the Night & Don’t Fence Me in with The Andrews Sisters


    BW - EP81: The Fred Allen Show—His Life On The Air (1932 - 1956) [Rewind] Apr 21, 2025
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    This episode was originally released on 7/1/2018. While new episodes of Breaking Walls are on hiatus I'll be going back and posting the older episodes. ___________ In Breaking Walls episode 81, we spotlight the life and career of one of the twentieth century’s most famous comedians, Fred Allen. Amongst other comedians and entertainers, almost no one was beloved as much as him. His comedic feud with Jack Benny was legendary, as were his battles with network executives and sponsors. Highlights: • John Sullivan is Born in Boston • What growing up in Boston with his aunt was like • How his job at the Boston Public library began his career in show business • Learning to Juggle and Early Amateur Performances • Harry LaToy and how Johnny Sullivan became Fred St. James • Freddie James: The World’s Worst Juggler • Becoming Fred Allen and going on Broadway • Allen’s Radio Birth—Bath Towels, Laxatives, and Mayonnaise • Town Hall Tonight is Born • Jack Benny—The Feud of the Century • Mr. Ramshaw— an Eagle on the loose • Changing networks • Texaco and Problems with NBC • King for a Day • Bowing out gracefully • Fred Allen: Memoirist • What’s my Line? • Final Days The reading material used in today’s episode was: • The Encyclopedia of Old-Time Radio by John Dunning • Treadmill to Oblivion & Much Ado About Me … both by Fred Allen Selected Music featured in today’s Episode was: • Swingin’ on a Star by Bing Crosby • Over There recorded live by George M. Cohan • Auld Lang Syne by Guy Lombardo


    BW - EP80: Forecast—The Most Important Forgotten Series in Radio History (1940 - 1941) [Rewind] Apr 10, 2025
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    This episode was originally released on 6/1/2018. While new episodes of Breaking Walls are on hiatus I'll be going back and posting the older episodes. ___________ Question? What do starlets Marlene Dietrich, Kay Thompson, Margaret Sullivan, and Loretta Young have in common? How about writers and directors Norman Corwin, Helen Deutsch, and Bill Spier. How about Danny Kaye, Mel Allen, Gerald Mohr, Elliot Lewis, Byron Kane, Lurene Tuttle, Paula Winslowe, Joseph Kearns, and Arthur Q. Bryan? Answer: They guest-starred, grew, or launched their careers on CBS’s Forecast! Forecast was a summer replacement series for the Lux Radio Theatre which ran for two seasons in 1940 and 1941. It ushered in an era of show pilots for public viewing and helped give rise to countless actors, writers, and directors, as well as two huge shows: Suspense & Duffy’s Tavern. On Breaking Walls Episode 80, we present an in-depth look at Forecast featuring interviews, insights, and episode moments. Highlights: • Why would Forecast have come to the airwaves in the first place? • Hear CBS head William S. Paley’s insights on programming • How Alfred Hitchcock helped launch the famed mystery show, Suspense • Bill Spier: Music critic, turned producer and director of mystery • How Elliott Lewis got his start on Forecast • Mel Allen & Duffy’s Tavern: Where the Elite Meet To Eat • Norman Corwin’s Two pieces for Forecast that helped catapult his career • How radio actor Byron Kane got his first role on Forecast • Jim Backus & the Class of 1941 * Hopalong Cassidy • The Country Lawyer: One of the most experimental radio broadcasts of its time • An all african-american jubilee to close Forecast The WallBreakers: http://thewallbreakers.com Subscribe to Breaking Walls everywhere you get your podcasts. Featured in today’s episode were interviews with: • Bill Spier and Mel Allen for Dick Bertel & Ed Corcoran’s WTIC Golden Age of Radio program, who’s episodes can be found at GoldenAge-Wtic.org • Elliott Lewis and Byron Kane, for the Society to Preserve and Encourage Radio Drama, Variety, and Comedy, which can be found at SPERDVAC.com • and Jim Backus and Norman Corwin with Chuck Schaden, who’s interviews can be streamed for free at SpeakingofRadio.com. Norman Corwin was also interviewed by Michael James Kacey for his DVD The Poet Laureate of Radio: An Interview with Norman Corwin, which you can pick up on Amazon. Selected Music featured in today’s Episode was: • My Blue Heaven by Glenn Miller • Begin the Beguine & Stardust by Artie Shaw • Alcolba Azul, by Elliot Goldenthal The Battle Cry for Freedom by Jaqueline Schwab for the Civil War, by Ken Burns Falling played by Michael Silvermann • Catch a Falling Star, by Perry Como


    BW - EP79: The Boy Wonder—Orson Welles' Early Career (1931 - 1941) [Rewind] Mar 30, 2025
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    This episode was originally released on 5/1/2018. While new episodes of Breaking Walls are on hiatus I'll be going back and posting the older episodes. ___________ In Breaking Walls Episode 79, we present a detailed look at Orson Welles’ radio career through the end of 1941. Highlights: • Beginnings in Illinois and China — How they helped shape Orson • The Todd Seminary School — His first exposure to theater and Radio • Connections and Early Breaks — How his mentor Roger Hill, Thornton Wilder, Alexander Woollcott, and Katharine Cornell helped Orson get to Broadway • Orson meets John Houseman and Archibald MacLeish, and first appears on the March of Time • 1935-1937 — From the March of Time to the Columbia Workshop, and how Irvin Reis taught Orson how to create for radio • How the US Government shaped the opportunity for Orson to write, direct, and star in Les Misérables on the Mutual Broadcasting System in 1937
 • The Shadow Knows! — Agnes Moorehead and Orson Welles’ one season on The Shadow • The birth of the Mercury Theater on the Air as First Person singular. • How it’s success led to the most infamous night in radio in October of 1938 • Mainstream success with Campbell’s Soups • Orson goes to Hollywood, and signs the greatest autonomous film contract in history at 24 • Citizen Kane — How William Randolph Hearst and RKO shaped the film • Lady Esther Presents — Orson comes back to radio in the autumn of 1941 • Pearl Harbor Day and collaborating with Norman Corwin • Joseph Cotton introduces Orson to Rita Hayworth The WallBreakers: http://thewallbreakers.com Subscribe to Breaking Walls everywhere you get your podcasts. To support the show: http://patreon.com/TheWallBreakers The reading material used in today’s episode was: • Citizen Welles: A Biography of Orson Welles by Frank Brady • This is Orson Welles by Welles and Peter Bogdanovich • The Encyclopedia of Old-Time Radio by John Dunning • Discovering Orson Welles by Jonathan Rosenbaum Other materials included: • http://www.wellesnet.com - an incredibly comprehensive website on Orson’s career • Orson Welles on the Air, 1938-1946 at https://orsonwelles.indiana.edu • The Radio Preservation Task Force also has a great Facebook group headed by Josh Shepperd Selected Interviews in this episode were: • Orson Welles with Dick Cavett, Johnny Carson, and Huw Wheldon, • Agnes Moorehead and Alan Reed were with radio Hall of Fame Member Chuck Schaden, who interviewed over 200 members of the radio community during his 39 year career. Chuck’s interviews can be streamed for free at SpeakingofRadio.com. • William Robson was with Dick Bertel and Ed Corcoran for WTIC’s The Golden Age of Radio in January of 1976 and Kenny Delmare was with John Dunning in 1983. Those interviews can be found at the Old Time Radio Researcher’s Group at Otrrlibrary.org • William Herz was with Walden Hughes and John and Larry Gassman in 2013 for their program on the Yesterday USA Radio Network, which you can visit at http://www.yesterdayusa.com.


    BW - EP77: The Birth Of The Radio Networks—From NBC To CBS To Mutual Broadcasting (1922 - 1934) [Rewind] Mar 21, 2025
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    This episode was originally released on 3/1/2018. While new episodes of Breaking Walls are on hiatus I'll be going back and posting the older episodes beginning with this episode on the birth of radio. —————————— In Breaking Walls Episode 77 we pick up our story on the history of American radio broadcasting, as a few ramshackle radio stations become large national networks, giving rise to an entire generation of entertainment giants during the roaring 1920s. Highlights: • July 2, 1921— Jack Dempsey defends his heavyweight boxing title in front of 80,000 fans as RCA broadcasts the event Closed Circuit to over 300,000 fans. Its the first broadcast of its kind. • The Radio Craze begins as almost 600 stations sign on in 1922 • Herbert Hoover tries to better organize the radio dial and put small stations out of business • AT&T’s attempt to monopolize radio broadcasting • The formation of the National Broadcasting Company • The Radio Act of 1927 • William S. Paley buys The Columbia Broadcasting System and turns it into a 2nd major network • Rudy Vallee becomes radio’s first mega-star • Chicago becomes radio’s 2nd capital • Hollywood's radio recording rise in the late 1930s • The Mutual Broadcasting System is formed—The Shadow debuts • War, once again, comes to Europe The reading material for today’s episode was: • The Rise of Radio, From Marconi through The Golden Age by Alfred Balk • Inventing American Broadcasting 1899-1922 by Susan J. Douglas • The Encyclopedia of Old-Time Radio by John Dunning • A Pictorial History of Radio’s First 75 Years by B. Eric Rhoads • Hello Everybody! The Dawn of American Radio by Anthony Rudel & • The Network by Scott Woolley Featured on today’s show were interviews conducted by Dick Bertel and the late Ed Corcoran and numerous others for Westinghouse, CBS, and NBC. Harold Arlin’s was interviewed by author J. Fred McDonald for his book Don’t Touch That Dial.


    BW - EP76: Over There—The War for Radio’s Airwaves (1912 - 1922) [Rewind] Mar 12, 2025
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    This episode was originally released on 2/15/2018. While new episodes of Breaking Walls are on hiatus I'll be going back and posting the older episodes. —————————— In Breaking Walls Episode 76, we pick up our story on the history of American dramatic radio after the sinking of the Titanic in April of 1912. The time between 1912 and 1922 saw three competing interests battle for control of the wireless airwaves as wireless telegraphy transitioned into radio broadcasting. These three interests were big private business, individual HAM radio operators, and the US Government. Highlights: • How the Titanic’s Sinking changed Guglielmo Marconi’s business • The Radio Act of 1912 - What it portended • Charles Herrold and KCBS San Francisco • Lee Deforest sells out to AT&T • Edwin Howard Armstrong invents regeneration, and later the superheterodyne receiver • War comes to Europe • The Navy takes over wireless • How World War I caused radio technology to boom • AT&T, Westinghouse, General Electric, and the newly formed RCA make a deal • David Sarnoff’s Rise to power • KDKA and the birth of regular broadcasting • Todays’ introduction music of Metamorphosis No. 2 was arranged for harp and vibraphone by David DePeters and played by Elizabeth Hainen. You can pick up her album, Home: Works for Solo Harp on iTunes and Amazon, and listen on Spotify and Pandora. Her website is ElizabethHainen.com and she is on youtube @Elizabethhainenharp The WallBreakers: http://thewallbreakers.com Subscribe to Breaking Walls everywhere you get your podcasts. To support the show: http://patreon.com/TheWallBreakers The reading material for today’s episode was: • Inventing American Broadcasting 1899-1922 by Susan J. Douglas • Empire of the Air by Tom Lewis • A Pictorial History of Radio’s First 75 Years by B. Eric Rhoads • Hello Everybody! The Dawn of American Radio by Anthony Rudel • The Network by Scott Woolley


    BW - EP75: We Are Echoes—The Birth Of Radio (1887 - 1912) [Rewind] Mar 05, 2025
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    This episode was originally released on 2/1/2018. While new episodes of Breaking Walls are on hiatus I'll be going back and posting the older episodes beginning with this episode on the birth of radio. —————————— Highlights: * Why the Blizzard of 1888 played such an important role in the need for wireless telegraphy * Who Was Heinrich Hertz? What experiment made him the father of Hertzian Waves? * What Oliver Lodge, Nikola Tesla, Alexander Graham Bell, and Amos DollBear have in common * Guglielmo Marconi, father of radio? * The benefits to wireless telegraphy * David Sarnoff — His start between 1900 - 1906 * Why the press want to get involved * Lee Deforest — Inventor, Fraud, or both? * What incredibly important event happened in December of 1901 in New Foundland * Why the American Government wanted to regulate wireless telegraphy * Reginald Fessenden, Christmas Eve, Oh Holy Night, and Brant Rock * The Titanic Disaster — How it changed wireless telegraphy forever * The Radio Box Memo * What’s next? —————————— The WallBreakers: http://thewallbreakers.com Subscribe to Breaking Walls everywhere you get your podcasts. To support the show: http://patreon.com/TheWallBreakers —————————— A tremendous thank you to today’s cast: Samantha De Gracia Olga Lysenko Justin Peele Nancy Pop Fernando Sanabria William Schallert & John Stephenson —————————— The reading material used in today’s episode was: • Inventing American Broadcasting 1899-1922 by Susan J. Douglas • Empire of the Air by Tom Lewis • A Pictorial History of Radio’s First 75 Years by B. Eric Rhoads • Hello Everybody! The Dawn of American Radio by Anthony Rudel & • The Network by Scott Woolley —————————— The interview clips in today’s open: • Chuck Schaden, who’s interviews can be found at http://www.speakingofradio.com and • Dick Bertel and the late Ed Corcoran’s Golden Age of Radio program that ran on Hartford, CT’s WTIC in the 1970s, who’s interviews can be found at http://otrrlibrary.org —————————— Todays’ introduction music of Clair de lune was arranged for harp and vibraphone by David DePeters and played by Elizabeth Hainen. You can pick up her album, Home: Works for Solo Harp on iTunes and Amazon, and listen on Spotify and Pandora. Her website is ElizabethHainen.com and she is on youtube @Elizabethhainenharp —————————— I’d also like to thank Walden Hughes and John and Larry Gassman of SPERDVAC - http://sperdvac.com/ That thank you also extends to the late Les Tremayne and late Jack Brown for their wonderful 1986 documentary series, Please Stand By: A History of Radio.


    BW - EP160—005: February 1950 With Broadway Is My Beat—The Death Of A Greenwich Village Writer Feb 10, 2025
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    Support Breaking Walls at https://www.patreon.com/thewallbreakers The February 17th, 1950 episode of Broadway is My Beat took Danny Clover to Greenwich Village. By the early 1950s, the sound effects men working in radio had begun to refine their craft to a fine art. In September of 1987 Jack Kruschen and Shirley Mitchell were guests of Jim Bohannon on his radio show. They remembered some of those men. The actor playing Camden Drake was Elliot Reid. Here he is speaking with Frank Bresee. Featured in this cast was Virginia Gregg. By 1950, she was one of the most versatile actresses on the air.


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