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Part 2 of our Discussion with Chris Sanders (@chrissanders88)
Topics discussed:
Companies dropping existing frameworks for ATT&CK Matrix, why?
Rural Technology Fund - What it is, how does it work, Who can help make it more awesome.
https://chrissanders.org/2019/05/infosec-mental-models/
I've argued for some time that information security is in a growing state of cognitive crisis…
Demand outweighs supply
Because so many organizations need experience, they are unable to appropriately invest in entry-level jobs and devote the necessary time for internal training.
That's an HR and hiring manager issue, right? --brbr No. --bboettcher
Information cannot be validated or trusted
There are few authoritative sources of knowledge about critical components and procedures.
Large systemic issues persist with no ability to tackle them in a large, mobilized, or strategic manner.
The industry is unable to organize or widely combat the biggest issues they face.
Groups of individuals, everyone thinking they have the 'right answer', just like linux flavors --brbr
https://www.fireeye.com/blog/threat-research/2015/06/caching_out_the_val.html
https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2018/07/10/windows-shimcache-threat-hunting/
Dependence on tools: http://traffic.libsyn.com/brakeingsecurity/2016-006-Moxie_vs_Mechanism-dependence_on_tools.mp3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_revolution
https://buzzmachine.com/2019/04/25/a-crisis-of-cognition/
How do we solve it?
- We must thoroughly understand the processes used to draw conclusions.
- S.M.A.R.T.?
- Experts must develop repeatable, teachable methods and techniques.
- Educators must build and advocate pedagogy that teaches practitioners how to think.
https://www.maximumfun.org/shows/sawbones - sawbones podcast (amanda mentioned)
Mental Model?
We use them all the time? Gotta simplify the complex...
Distribution and the Bell Curve
Operant Conditioning
https://www.latimes.com/science/la-sci-emotional-stereotypes-about-women-20190530-story.html
The Scientific Method
Applied Models
13 Organ Systems
4 Vital Signs
10 Point Pain scale
Defense in Depth
OSI model
Investigation Process
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_reasoning
Model Desperation
Companies dumping existing models and embracing something else
The problem is that we're model hungry and we'll rapidly use and abuse any reasonable model that presents itself. Ultimately, we want good models because we want a robust toolbox. But, not everything is a job for a hammer and we don't need fourteen circular saws.
What makes a good model?
Simple
Useful
Imperfect? (wuh?)-brbr
Creating models
Begins by asking a question… (what is the weather going to look like tomorrow? --brbr)
What defines the sandwich? (kind of like "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_forms" --brbr)
Discuss the Rural Tech Fund https://twitter.com/RuralTechFund
https://ruraltechfund.org/
Practical Threat Hunting - https://twitter.com/chrissanders88/status/1133388347194454018
Practical Packet Analysis - https://nostarch.com/packetanalysis3
Suggesting books:
https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0374533555
https://www.amazon.com/Undoing-Project-Friendship-Changed-Minds/dp/0393354776
More references on Chris' site https://chrissanders.org/2019/05/infosec-mental-models/
Book Club
Cult of the dead cow - June
Tribe of Hackers - July
The Mastermind - August
The Cuckoo's Egg - September
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