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    Born to Be Free: Supporting Neurodivergent Clients to Learn, Play, & Thrive

    A podcast for professionals looking to support the deepest wellbeing of their neurodivergent clients. We focus on lived experiences, research, affirming practices, intersectionality, and the practical ways we can support authentic wellbeing.

    Visit learnplaythrive.com/podcast/

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    Latest Episodes:
    Practices that Center Regulation, Cultural Identity, Authentic Communication, and Dignity with Christina Schmidt Nov 05, 2025
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    SLP Christina Schmidt strives to work in a way that centers a client's regulation, their identity, and their dignity. If that resonates with you, you won’t want to miss this conversation. Christina shares in detail how we can best support our clients with communication needs, our AAC users, non-speakers, kids who communicate through delayed echolalia in ways that are both neuro-affirming and culturally responsive. And she shares a model for supporting clients who don’t share our identities, applying it to a real life example of a client she supported who was deeply in burnout from being subjected to compliance-based practices. Christina Schmidt is a Black, African-American Australian, multicultural, and multi-dialectal AuDHD woman who proudly embraces her identity across all facets of her work and advocacy. She's the founder of Free to Be Me Speech Therapy where she provides neuro-affirming support to both kids and adults in a way that honors each person's unique communication needs, strengths, and ways of being. Her work is rooted in justice, joy, and the ongoing commitment to amplifying diverse voices and stories, always with the belief that we deserve to be seen, heard, and free to be.

    Want MORE EPISODES of Two Sides of the Spectrum, recorded Q&As with our guests, and a listener chat forum? We just launched our Patreon and we need at least 100 people to join to keep the podcast running! Patreon.com/learnplaythrive

    For show notes as well as in-person and livestreamed CE trainings visit learnplaythrive.com

    For more episodes visit patreon.com/learnplaythrive


    Startled, Trapped, & Shamed: How to Stop Accidentally Dysregulating Autistic Kids Oct 15, 2025
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    All behavior makes sense, we just have to make sense of it. In this conversation, psychologist Dr. Gillian Boudreau helps us see that underlying nearly any behavior is fear. And so often, the fear is related to a child being startled, feeling trapped, or being shamed. But if you aren’t looking for it, it’s easy to miss. In this conversation we explore the nuance of each of these - especially for PDAers - and Gillian's exact roadmap for concrete ways to avoid them (complete with clever acronyms for each). This is a must-listen episode to help you understand your clients' experience in their lives and during your sessions.

    For show notes as well as in-person and livestreamed CE trainings visit learnplaythrive.com

    For more episodes visit patreon.com/learnplaythrive


    Safety As The Foundation of Everything with Dr. Gillian Boudreau Oct 01, 2025
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    Episode 67 was one of our most impactful episodes ever, and today we invite you to re-listen. Often as OTs and SLPs we skip right to teaching our Autistic clients new skills. But what about their experiences of felt safety while they are with us? What work do we need to do so that we can show up calm and connected and ready to support our Autistic kids to feel truly safe before they are ready to learn? Psychologist and school psychologist Dr. Gillian Boudreau talks us through this essential and often overlooked first step to supporting our Autistic clients. This is a re-airing of episode 67 in preparation for our next episode, which will be a new conversation with Dr. Gillian Boudreau that builds on this incredibly impactful episode. Check out Dr. Gillian Boudreau's full course at learnplaythrive.com/calm and her Spring reflective practice group at learnplaythrive.com/practice

    For show notes as well as in-person and livestreamed CE trainings visit learnplaythrive.com

    For more episodes visit patreon.com/learnplaythrive


    Beyond The "Green Zone" & Beyond Labeling Feelings: Supporting Social Emotional Learning with Katrina Martin Sep 17, 2025
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    If you’re anything like me, you learned how masking can harm the mental health of your Autistic clients….and then you never learned anything to put in its place. This leaves a huge gap for our Autistic clients who need us to know how to support their social and emotional well-being in an affirming way.

    Today’s guest, Katrina Martin, Ph.D., helps us answer questions like:

    • What do I say when a parent is asking for traditional “social skills training”?
    • What do I do when a school is using Zones of Regulation in a way that doesn’t feel affirming?
    • Should I ever have kids match emotion words to faces? When is this helpful, and what is it missing?
    • And so much more.

    Our guest, Katrina Martin, Ph.D. is a neurodivergent parent to neurodivergent kids, the creator of our online course Bridging Perspectives: Transformative strategies for neurodiversity- affirming social-emotional learning, and the founder of Bridges Learning System.

    Katrina speaks from her own experience and her extensive work to show us all how we can support social-emotional well-being while respecting authentic Autistic ways of being, connecting, and communicating.

    And a big update from Learn Play Thrive: All Learn Play Thrive courses will be available for sale only through December 16, 2025, with our final CE summit taking place in February and March of 2026. This is your last chance to take any of our affirming continuing education course. All courses include one year’s on-demand access and various CE board approvals. Visit learnplaythrive.com/trainings before registration closes forever.

    For show notes as well as in-person and livestreamed CE trainings visit learnplaythrive.com

    For more episodes visit patreon.com/learnplaythrive


    Supporting Autistic Kids During Meltdowns with Amanda Diekman Sep 10, 2025
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    This bonus episode is just for the parents you support, and it is all about meltdowns. A meltdown is a full body response to feeling overwhelmed. In a meltdown, our kids' nervous systems are in survival mode. They are going to fight for their lives or flee for safety. One way or another, they are physically releasing the energy of their intense emotions. When this happens, what is in our control, and how can we respond to signal safety to their nervous system? How can we turn down the temperature and bring the child back to safety?

    In this bonus episode, you’ll Amanda Diekman teaches parents a mindset shift and safety planning strategies to help you manage aggressive meltdowns in a way that helps bring your kid back to safety, without overextending your own nervous system.

    Join our caregiver community and access Amanda’s full on demand course, Supporting Autistic Kids in Distress, by visiting parents.learnplaythrive.com/community

    For show notes as well as in-person and livestreamed CE trainings visit learnplaythrive.com

    For more episodes visit patreon.com/learnplaythrive


    How to Infuse Your Practice with Creativity, Inclusion, and Arts with Emily Zimmer, SLP Sep 03, 2025
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    We are back with a bright, glittery, colorful, and inclusive dose of hope for your professional practices. Our guest Emily Zimmer is one of the most creative, inclusive speech language therapists you’ll find. And in this episode she teaches us how we can all access more creativity in how we connect with our neurodivergent clients. One of Emily’s projects is a Drag Story Hour MN. (See photos - including an AAC-using phoenix - at learnplaythrive.com/podcast). Here’s what Emily’s spouse Grady had to say about it:

    "Drag Story Hour is a demonstration that each and every one of us is essential. When I was young, I only knew that [queer] 'people like me' died alone and too soon. I should have known we danced. I should have known we sang, I should have known we can grow and flourish and love and be loved deeply."

    This episode is beautiful, powerful, and full of hope.

    For show notes as well as in-person and livestreamed CE trainings visit learnplaythrive.com

    For more episodes visit patreon.com/learnplaythrive


    Episode 100 - How to Change Everything: A Story from Ireland Mar 19, 2025
    Show notes

    In a complicated time when so many of us are feeling disempowered, this interview is a guiding light. Nessa Hill from Neurodiversity Ireland shares her story of how she used what she learned on the podcast to change the way Autistic kids are supported in Ireland on a national scale. Her story and her message are empowering for providers everywhere. Plus, listeners from all over the world share the creative, impactful ways they have applied what they’ve learned on the podcast to their communities and their work. This episode is heavy dose of real-life inspiration. After listening, check out our three newest courses at learnplaythrive.com/new

    For show notes as well as in-person and livestreamed CE trainings visit learnplaythrive.com

    For more episodes visit patreon.com/learnplaythrive


    Updates from Learn Play Thrive Jan 08, 2025
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    We miss you! Get the updates on what's happening at Learn Play Thrive. And download our free packet of parent handouts at learnplaythrive.com

    For show notes as well as in-person and livestreamed CE trainings visit learnplaythrive.com

    For more episodes visit patreon.com/learnplaythrive


    Unmasking Autism in Action with Dr. Devon Price Aug 07, 2024
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    This episode dives deep into some of the more foundational questions around being Autistic and neurodiversity, tying this into the larger systems we are embedded in. Our guest, Dr. Devon Price, helps us explore the concepts of masking and authenticity and how we, as professionals supporting Autistic people, can push back against these pressures. Dr. Devon Price is a social psychologist, professor, author, and proudly Autistic person. He has written 'Unmasking Autism' and 'Laziness Doesn't Exist'.

    For show notes as well as in-person and livestreamed CE trainings visit learnplaythrive.com

    For more episodes visit patreon.com/learnplaythrive


    Part-Time AAC Use with Dr. Alyssa Hillary Zisk Jul 17, 2024
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    In this episode, we talk about why and how part-time AAC use can support authentic participation for many autistic people. We also explore Dr. Alyssa Hillary Zisk’s insights on teaching AAC from their perspective as an engineer, as a researcher, and as an AAC user.

    Dr. Alyssa Hillary Zisk is an Autistic part-time AAC user, using a variety of text-based tools. They are the AAC research team lead at AssistiveWare. Their doctoral dissertation was on brain computer interfaces for people with ALS.

    For show notes as well as in-person and livestreamed CE trainings visit learnplaythrive.com

    For more episodes visit patreon.com/learnplaythrive


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