Born Again Again

Old Wedding Vows and Talking About Divorce Jul 15, 2019

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We were scared of the word divorce and our vows were written by aliens.

We found our old wedding vows, and it inspired an episode about our wedding and the facade we used to present as Christians. The vows got us talking about how much we’ve had to strip away to become our real selves again.

We also have a conversation about what divorce meant to us when we used to be Christian, how that's changed since we left our faith, and how our new understanding of divorce has actually made our marriage stronger. It was a difficult and painful topic to bring up at first, but it allowed us to be more open in our marriage, grow up in a sense, and truly look at why we were together without our third-wheeler, Jesus.

Also please enjoy when Katie calls “STDs” “sex diseases.”

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Why Is The Devil So Strong? - Reading the Bible with Sara and Phil Jul 08, 2019

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Reading the Bible is what finally deconverted us from Christianity.

On today’s episode we read the Bible and chat with our best friends and first ever guests, Sara Byrne and Phil Chester.

Sara and Phil actually got us back into the Bible after a couple years avoiding religion altogether. It was through this process that we were able to finally able to cut ties with our Christianity and move forward.

This particular time, we look at the story of Original Sin and the curse on mankind, as well as the story of Job. We talk about the devil’s roll in Christianity and ask why he, who is not actually mentioned that much in these ancient texts, came to be so feared and powerful. And consequently how we realized he’s not that bad of a guy compared to God.

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Should I Believe Just In Case? Jul 01, 2019

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Should we believe in God just in case?

Family members and others have brought up this question with us. This question is another way to talk about Pascal’s Wager, which states that if you believe in God and God doesn’t exist, at least there are no consequences, but if he does exist and you don’t believe in him, the consequences are fiery.

We didn’t want our spiritual beliefs to be based in fear.

In our experience, Pascal was wrong when he said that there were no negative consequences to being a committed follower of Christ. And we talk about them all in this episode.

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Our Experience as Campus Missionaries with Cru Jun 24, 2019

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We served as campus missionaries with Cru, a national evangelical organization that hosts meetings and Christian events on college campuses across the nation.

Even though we were deeply committed Christians at the time, we had a number of problems with Cru and the way that evangelical organizations in general treated the students we were supposed to be reaching.

We talk about our involvement during our years as students, our (weird) summer raising support, the business-like tactics employed by Cru to "win the lost", and the many binders we were instructed to read from.

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"Are You Just Chasing Feelings?" Jun 17, 2019

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In this episode of the Born Again Again podcast, we talk about feelings, faith, and learning to trust our intuition.

We talk about the role of feelings in the devoted Christian’s life and how we learned to suppress them on our “walk with God”.

We talk about our journey as we learned to feel again, along with some of the benefits we’ve experienced and some practical advice for learning to get in touch with yourself again.

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Anger, Resentment, Regret Jun 03, 2019

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In this episode of the Born Again Again podcast, we talk about anger, resentment, and regret.

We talk about some of the reasons we regret our Christian past - from over-respecting authority and being terrified of satan, to shame around sex and guilt for pursuing dreams.

We also have a conversation about the best ways we’ve found to move on from our anger and recover from our past.

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We Told Our Parents May 27, 2019

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"Coming Out" as non-Christian to our family was really difficult.

In this episode we talk about what it was like to tell our parents that we're not Christian anymore.

We talk about how we worked up the courage, how each of our conversations went, and how we feel now that it's finally over.

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God is Love? May 20, 2019

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Is God actually loving?

We talk about how we used to view God and his love when we were Christians, how our re-reading of the Bible with non-christian eyes changed our view of him, and how that new picture of God was one of the biggest reasons we deconverted.

We touch on our revelation of God’s “conditional” rather than “unconditional” love and how we were affected by his example.

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How Leaving Christianity Changed Our Relationship May 13, 2019

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Leaving Christianity drastically changed our marriage.

We were both very involved in church and each had personal relationships with Jesus when we married. As our marriage grew, so did our relationships with God. He was our “third cord,” “our rock” on which our marriage was built.

So what happens when he’s out of the picture?

We went through questioning the basis of our relationship, if we were still meant to be together, and discovered that divorce was no longer a forbidden word.

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