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    Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

    Join Joseph Scott Morgan every week as he explores a world that not many have had a chance to visit, the realm of death. Jo Scott will lead listeners on a journey through the blood soaked death scenes of America and then into the autopsy room to fully understand the science behind each case. Jo Scott is one America’s leading experts on applied forensics and is regularly featured on ‘Crime Stories with Nancy Grace’, ‘The Piketon Massacre’, Court TV and more.

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    A Pink Hammer's Dark Secrets: The Mysterious Death of Leon Hignite Apr 04, 2023
    Show notes

    In this episode of "Body Bags," Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack delve into the chilling case of 76-year-old Leon Hignite, who was found abandoned in his home with gruesome injuries.

    They explore the forensic details of blood spatter patterns and analyze the severity of Leon's injuries, the challenges faced by the medical team, and the disturbing circumstances surrounding the incident.

    Time Codes:

    0:00 - Introduction

    01:17 - Overview and background

    04:28 - Dave questions how the blood on the ceiling and wall could have resulted from Leon's supposed fall in the bathroom.

    05:07 - Leon's limited ability to communicate due to his blindness and hearing impairment.

    06:17 - The autopsy reveals that Leon sustained at least 30 blunt force impacts to his head.

    07:42 - Paramedics find Leon in a deplorable state on the bedroom floor, surrounded by blood and waste.

    09:46 - Leon’s feelings of helplessness and hopelessness.

    10:10 - Leon is found after three days.

    10:41 - Leon's medical condition, age, blindness, and other health issues.

    11:04 - The police arrive to serve a search warrant and discover the house set on fire.

    11:56 - Medical intervention needed for Leon's head trauma.

    13:14 - Carol Hignite's claims she gave Leon ice chips to hydrate him.

    14:39 - Were the injuries Leon sustained typical of a fall?

    16:10 - The forensic implications of overlapping contusions and fractured areas.

    18:05 - The pink hammer.

    20:47 - The forensic challenges of blood being found on the hammer.

    22:14 - The differences between blood spatter from impact vs. cast-off.

    24:01 - Blood velocities and their relation to various weapons.

    25:30 - What happened those 3 days before 911 was called?

    27:40 - Outro

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Murdaugh Adjacent? | The Death of Stephen Smith Mar 28, 2023
    Show notes

    Stephen Smith died mysteriously in 2015 in South Carolina.

    Though his death was initially ruled a hit-and-run, it has more recently gained attention following the 2021 murders of Maggie and Paul Murdaugh, which lead to the reopening of his case two years ago. The Murdaugh family was mentioned in the initial investigation, but no charges were filed.

    Smith was found dead with a large gash on his forehead, a partially dislocated shoulder, and cuts and bruises on his hand. Authorities initially thought Smith had been shot, but no bullet or fragments were found. In March 2023, the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division (SLED) officially ruled Smith's death as a homicide.

    In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and reporter Dave Mack discuss what types of injuries one sustains when hit by a vehicle, why Joe and Dave think the perpetrator was likely a local, exhumation, mirror strikes, and more.

    Show Notes:

    0:00 - Intro

    1:26 - Encountering unexpected road obstacles

    4:30 - Open homicide with lots to still investigate

    6:45 - What happens when you call 911?

    11:10 - Misidentifying a gunshot wound as a hit and run

    13:00 - Joe describes types of injuries and evidence left on a vehicle when it strikes a pedestrian

    20:40 - Why Joe and Dave think the perpetrator was likely a local

    22:10 - Besides head trauma, what other physical damage would you expect to see in a hit and run case?

    23:40 - What is a mirror strike?

    27:25 - Exhumation and its challenges

    34:00 - The importance of thorough examination including high-quality imaging and analysis

    38:25 - Outro

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    An Alternate Ending | Edward LeClair Mar 21, 2023
    Show notes

    Edward LeClair, aged 57, was on trial in Denton, Texas for five counts of sexual abuse. While being read his conviction, he chugged an entire bottle of water in the courtroom.

    LeClair was then transported to a holding cell and later when checked on by the bailiff was found unconscious. Emergency services were immediately called and LeClair was transported to a local hospital where he was pronounced dead.

    In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and special guest co-host Dave Mack discuss LeClair’s crimes, his decision to take his own life, sodium nitrate, what it does to your body, and more.

    Show Notes:

    0:00 - Intro

    1:17 - Background

    4:45 - Sentence for going after a minor

    6:30 - The bottle of water

    9:45 - LeClair’s decision to take his own life

    11:50 - Would he have been allowed in with his own bottle of water?

    14:55 - What substance was in the bottle?

    17:50 - Sodium Nitrate

    20:50 - What does Sodium Nitrate do to your body?

    25:00 - Other times Sodium Nitrate has been used and what the toxicology tells us

    28:15 - Can you reverse the effects of poisons? Could LeClair’s death have been prevented?

    30:10 - Wrap up

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    First in Recorded History: The Autopsy of Julius Caesar | A Body Bags Special Report Mar 14, 2023
    Show notes

    On March 15th in 44 B.C. Julius Caesar, the Roman dictator, was assassinated by a group of senators who stabbed him 23 times during a Senate meeting.

    The senators claimed Caesar's concentration of power threatened the Roman Republic. However, their efforts to restore the Republic failed, and the aftermath led to a civil war and the rise of the Roman Empire. His death also led to the earliest recorded autopsy in history.

    In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and special guest co-host Dave Mack discuss the purpose of autopsies, Caesar's life, and leadership, the details of how he was attacked, the injuries sustained, and how this event shaped the course of history.

    Show Notes:

    0:00 - Intro

    1:12 - Background and overview

    2:35 - What’s the purpose of an autopsy?

    4:05 - Caesar’s life and work as a leader

    7:15 - The day of Caesar’s assassination

    9:15 - How the attack happened

    10:50 - Caesar’s autopsy

    13:20 - After someone is stabbed multiple times does blood keep flowing or will it eventually stop after a few hours?

    17:10 - Could the doctor have attributed Caesar’s death to blood loss?

    20:10 - What was the assassination plan for Caesar? Were there other injuries and what was Caesar's condition afterward?

    22:10 - Where was the autopsy done?

    23:40 - The start of 3D modeling

    25:30 - How this event shaped history

    27:05 - Outro

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    A Funeral Home of Horrors - Megan Hess and Shirley Koch Mar 07, 2023
    Show notes

    Megan Hess, a former owner of the Colorado funeral home, Sunset Mesa, has pleaded guilty to secretly dissecting corpses and selling body parts without consent from relatives of the deceased.

    Hess and her mother, Shirley Koch, launched a non-profit donor service organization in 2009. They forged dozens of body donor consent forms and sold the body parts for profit. They have both been convicted and sentenced for their crimes.

    In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and special guest co-host Dave Mack discuss the purpose of funeral homes, how one decides what is done with a loved one's remains, the legal procedures for deciding what is done with bodily remains, using bodies for medical purposes, and much more.

    Show Notes:

    0:00 - Intro

    0:45 - Background

    2:40 - What is the purpose of a funeral home?

    5:05 - Gross Anatomy

    5:50 - Deciding what is done with a body after death

    8:10 - Donor Services and Megan Hess

    13:35 - Can you tell if someone’s ashes aren’t real?

    16:00 - Legal procedures for remains

    18:10 - Non-transplant anatomical donation

    19:30 - Jeff Peacock and finding out his parents were victims of Hess

    23:40 - Body parts sold having certain diseases

    25:30 - Using bodies for medical purposes

    27:50 - Sentencing for Megan Hess and her mother Shirley Koch

    28:30 - Wrap-up

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Revisiting Debbie Collier's Case | New Updates and Insights Feb 28, 2023
    Show notes

    Debbie Collier, a Georgia resident, is reported missing on September 10th, 2022 after sending her daughter, Amanda, a Venmo payment for $2,385 with a message saying, “They are not going to let me go, love you.” She was found dead the next day in a ravine more than an hour north from her home. The newly released autopsy report reveals that when her body was found 80% of it was covered in second and third degree burns. Which is one of many reasons why the public was surprised to hear that the death has been ruled a suicide.

    In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and special guest co-host Dave Mack discuss Collier’s burns, the state of her clothing, the lack of debris found in her trachea, why police have ruled this a suicide, and much more.

    Show Notes:

    0:00 - Intro

    0:52 - Background and overview of case

    4:45 - Debbie Collier’s clothing and what it tells us

    8:45 - The autopsy report and Collier’s burns

    11:30 - Burning to kill vs. burning to cover something up

    13:05 - No evidence of debris in her trachea

    15:05 - Police ruling this a suicide

    18:25 - Carboxyhemoglobin level and hydrocodone

    19:50 - Is there an indication that the burning took place after death?

    22:10 - Manner of death

    24:00 - Was this really a suicide?

    25:40 - Do police sometimes downplay what they’ve seen to the public?

    29:00 - Outro

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    The Murdaugh Trial Autopsy Review | Official Findings Feb 21, 2023
    Show notes

    We revisit the Murdaugh trial in which South Carolina lawyer, Alex Murdaugh, is currently facing trial for the murder of his wife Maggie, and his son Paul. As the trial continues, we are learning more information about the nature of the crimes and how exactly they played out.

    In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and special guest co-host Dave Mack discuss the specifics of both Paul and Maggie’s injuries, why the prosecution uses diagrams vs. photographs when showing evidence in court, whether Paul had any defensive wounds, and much more.

    Show Notes:

    0:00 - Intro

    1:18 - Background and overview of the case

    2:35 - Using diagrams in court vs. photographs

    6:05 - Paul Murdaugh’s injuries

    11:15 - The second shot to Paul Murdaugh’s head

    14:50 - Paul’s face left intact

    19:25 - Were there any type of defensive wounds on Paul?

    20:30 - Maggie Murdaugh’s injuries

    23:30 - Stippling around Maggie’s wounds

    26:00 - Shot to the abdomen

    29:00 - Was this overkill?

    31:00 - Wrap up and outro

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Pleading Guilty to Brutality - The Heartbreaking Story of Tristyn Bailey Feb 14, 2023
    Show notes

    On May 9th, 2021, in St. John’s County, Florida, 13 year old Tristyn Bailey goes missing. She was last seen by her sister just after midnight and is reported missing that morning by her family. The police and community begin searching for her that same day and at 6 p.m. that night her body is found by a neighbor in a remote area in the woods. She had been stabbed more than 100 times.

    In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and special guest co-host Dave Mack discuss the timeline of this case, how police track and identify suspects using surveillance footage, the different kinds of stab wounds, the importance of taking photographs of potential suspects, and more.

    Show Notes:

    0:00 - Intro

    1:32 - Background and overview of case

    3:40 - Thrill killing

    6:20 - The timeline

    8:50 - How can investigators get blood out of something that’s already been washed?

    13:30 - How do police identify and track a suspect from footage used for evidence?

    16:00 - Mother’s day and siblings not finding Tristyn in her bedroom

    17:40 - Different kinds of stab wounds

    23:00 - Presenting medical evidence in court and defensive vs. non-defensive wounds

    26:10 - Tristyn attempting to fight off the killer

    27:20 - Importance of taking photographs of potential suspects and all parts of their body

    30:40 - Aiden Fucci

    32:50 - Aspects of premeditation and Fucci’s mother’s awareness of the crime

    34:50 - Fucci pleading not guilty, his story constantly changing, and then finally pleading guilty

    36:30 - Wrap-up and outro

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    The Mystery of Ana Walshe Feb 07, 2023
    Show notes

    Ana Walshe, a property manager for Tishman Speyer, goes missing January 1, 2023. She is reported missing by her employer and by her husband Brian Walshe. Her husband is arrested on January 8th and charged with misleading the police investigation. Police then obtained a search warrant to the couple’s home where in the basement they find a damaged and bloody knife.

    In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss the timeline of Ana’s disappearance, the bloody knife found in the basement, the logistics of dismembering a body, looking at suspects deviating from their behavior, and much more.

    Show Notes:

    0:00 - Intro

    1:18 - Background and overview of the case

    2:45 - The disappearance timeline

    4:20 - Bloody knife in the basement

    7:20 - Evidence found from blood

    10:40 - The husband and tracking his moves

    14:20 - Hacksaw

    15:20 - Dismembering a body

    18:45 - Determining the search radius for a missing body

    23:00 - Suspects deviating from their regular behaviors

    26:20 - Investigators relying on intuition

    28:20 - Death threats

    29:45 - Outro

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Lying in Wait - The Homicide of Jared Bridegan Jan 31, 2023
    Show notes

    On the evening of February 16th, 2022 Jared Bridegan is dropping off his daughter at his ex-wife’s home. On the drive over he has to stop because there’s a tire in the middle of the road and he cannot go around it. He steps out of the car to go and move it whereupon he is shot multiple times. Henry Tenon has been charged with Bridegan’s murder. His only known connection to Bridegan is that he is a former tenant of a property owned by Bridegan’s ex-wifes current husband.

    In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss the longevity and complexity of this case, the logistics of the shooting itself, the charges against the suspect, the evidence found from the tire and shell casings, and much more.

    Show Notes:

    0:00 - Intro

    1:18 - Background and overview of the case

    3:25 - The logistics of the shooting

    6:25 - Charges against the suspect

    10:00 - Tenon’s truck

    11:15 - Evidence from the tire

    13:15 - Car rims and fingerprints

    15:40 - Planning and pre-meditation

    20:20 - The choke point and Florida climate

    24:55 - Shell casings

    30:15 - Video surveillance and tracking down the owner of the blue truck

    32:45 - The longevity and complexity of this case

    35:00 - Outro

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


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