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    Big Books & Bold Ideas with Kerri Miller

    Where Readers Meet Writers. Conversations on books and ideas, Fridays at 11 a.m.

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    Anna North's new novel sees an ancient body as sacred treasure in 'Bog Queen' Oct 24, 2025
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    The two women at the center of Anna North’s new novel, “Bog Queen,” are separated by time but inexorably bound. One is a druid who lived during the Iron Age. The other is the modern forensic scientist who is called upon to investigate the druid’s perfectly preserved body after it is unearthed from a British bog.


    Agnes is drawn to the mystery and even sacredness of her work. Who was this woman, and how is her body still telling her story?


    But it is, as we say today, complicated. Should ancient bodies be poked and prodded for information? Should the land where they have laid for centuries be explored or left undisturbed? And what of the bog itself, with its intricate biosystems of peat and sphagnum moss? Is it, in itself, a living thing that deserves to be heard?


    In “Bog Queen,” North gently probes those questions and more. She joins Kerri Miller on this week’s Big Books and Bold Ideas to talk about what ancient wisdom offers our contemporary world.


    Guest:


    • Anna North’s previous novels include “Outlawed” and “America Pacifica.” Her new novel is “Bog Queen.”

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    Talking Volumes: Misty Copeland on ballet, ‘Bunheads’ and what comes next Oct 17, 2025
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    Even before Misty Copeland became the first Black woman to be named a principal dancer at the illustrious American Ballet Theatre, she electrified the world of ballet.


    A prodigy who didn’t start dancing until she was 13, she grew up in a transient and often chaotic home. But after she was discovered in a Boys & Girls Club in Los Angeles by a ballet teacher who wanted to expose more kids to the art form, she quickly shot into the national spotlight. As a teen, she studied at the prestigious San Francisco Ballet School and American Ballet Theatre’s Summer Intensive. She joined American Ballet Theatre in 2000 and was promoted to principal just five years later, becoming the first Black woman ever to earn the title in the company’s 75-year history.


    Talking Volumes: Misty Copeland












    Copeland stepped away from the stage in 2020, after an injury and then the pandemic forced a pause. She officially retires this October, but as she told Kerri Miller at Talking Volumes in September, she’s eager to enter the next chapter of her life where she can focus on giving back.


    “Bunheads,” her book series for young dancers, is just one example. At Talking Volumes, a warm and playful Copeland talked about her love of ballet, how dance transformed her life and what comes next.


    Musical guests for this special Sunday matinee Talking Volumes were Aby Wolf and Eric Mayson.


    Kate DiCamillo marvels at 25 years of 'Because of Winn-Dixie' Oct 10, 2025
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    Twenty-five years ago this fall, a generation of readers met 10-year-old India Opal Buloni and her loveable, scruffy dog, Winn-Dixie — so named because Opal found the canine while he was causing chaos in the produce aisle of the local grocery store.


    Winn-Dixie transformed Opal’s life, as only a dog can do.


    And their story changed those who read it, as only a book can do.


    “Because of Winn-Dixie” received a Newbery Honor the year it was published — a significant award for a debut children’s book. Since then, it has been translated into almost 30 language and been made into a major motion picture.


    It also catapulted Minneapolis author Kate DiCamillo into the national spotlight and launched her remarkable career.


    To celebrate the 25th anniversary of this modern classic, DiCamillo joined Big Books and Bold Ideas host Kerri Miller in the studio to reflect on what “Because of Winn-Dixie” meant to her.


    Between bouts of laughter and teasing, DiCamillo and Miller talked about the transformative experience of writing for children, which DiCamillo believes makes her a better, more hopeful person.


    “I didn't know how much that hope was a part of me until I started to write books for children,” she tells Miller. “So that's part of how ‘Winn-Dixie’ changed the whole of my life — not just by letting me become a writer, but by letting me see myself a little bit better.”


    Talking Volumes: Patricia Lockwood's new novel is a COVID-induced fever dream Oct 03, 2025
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    When Patricia Lockwood contracted COVID-19 in the spring of 2020, she lost touch with reality. For months, she floated through her days, dealing with constant migraines and visions of gorillas lurking in the trees.


    Ironically, she was mostly aware that she was cut loose from humanity. She kept notebooks filled with her wonderings and ramblings.


    And when she got better, she gathered her shattered experiences into a sharp new novel, “Will There Ever Be Another You.”


    Talking Volumes: Patricia Lockwood












    Not exactly a memoir, because Lockwood wanted to be freed from the structure of facts, she describes the wild and often psychedelic experience of a long illness “stealing people from themselves.”


    “You might look the same to others,” she writes, “but you had been replaced.”


    Lockwood joined Kerri Miller at the Fitzgerald Theater for Talking Volumes on Sept. 25 for a funny, unpredictable and profound conversation about how any long illness can take you apart and put you back together. Minneapolis-based singer-songwriter Sarah Morris provided music for the evening.


    Patrick Ryan's 'Buckeye' is a sweeping drama set in a small town in Ohio Sep 26, 2025
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    The fictional Bonhomie, Ohio, where Patrick Ryan’s new novel, “Buckeye,” is set, will be familiar to anyone who grew up in a small town.


    Children ride their bikes freely. Mom-and-pop stores thrive. And sooner or later, everyone crosses paths with each other.


    That sense of closeness is charming — until you have a secret to hide. Such is the case with the two couples at the center of Ryan’s sweeping saga. Cal Jenkins is born with one leg two inches shorter than the other and, thus, is unable to fight in the war. His wife, Becky, is a seer who can bridge the human and spirit worlds for those mourning their lost loved ones. Across town, Margaret is married to Felix Salt. But he doesn’t know she grew up an orphan. She doesn’t know he’s a closeted gay man.


    As the years pass and the secrets deepen and unspool, Ryan takes readers on a journey to another era, where nostalgia can’t hide the pain of unrequited love and the devastating effects of war.


    Guest:


    • Patrick Ryan is the editor in chief of the monthly literary journal, One Story. His new novel is “Buckeye.”

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    Kerri Miller talks with David French about politics, democracy and 'the exhausted majority' Sep 25, 2025
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    The final ballots were still being counted in the presidential election last fall when David French recorded a podcast with fellow opinion writer Patrick Healy. The theme? “It’s time to admit America has changed.”


    Kerri Miller welcomed the chance to ask French to expound on what he meant then and what he’s learned since when he came to Red Wing last Thursday night as part of the Philip S. Duff Jr. Civic Lecture Series.


    French is a conservative commentator, a constitutional lawyer, former senior editor at The Dispatch and an regular opinion columnist for the New York Times. His most recent book is “Divided We Fall: America’s Secession Threat and How to Restore Our Nation.” He also is a veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom, where he was awarded the Bronze Star.


    Journalist Brian Goldstone talks about America's homeless problem in his new book Sep 19, 2025
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    When the Wilder Foundation set out on a cool night in October of 2023 to count how many people in Minnesota were without shelter, the number came in at more than 10,000.


    Even more sobering, if national statistics apply: Many of those unhoused people have jobs. Some even work 40 or more hours a week. But they still can’t afford to rent an apartment, buy a house or even pay the fees for a long-term motel room.


    In his new book, journalist Brian Goldstone writes that there is “something scandalous” about the very concept of the working homeless in a country where hard work and determination are supposed to lead to success.


    He joins Kerri Miller on Big Books and Bold Ideas this week to talk about what he learned as he followed five working homeless families in Georgia over many years. His book, “There is No Place for Us” is a sobering, heart-breaking and urgent call for action to solve this national crisis.


    Guest:


    • Brian Goldstone has written for a number of national publications, including The New York Times, Harper’s and The New Republic. His new book is “There is No Place for Us: Working and Homeless in America.”

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    Talking Volumes: Stacey Abrams talks about democracy, the power of of reading and her new novel, 'Coded Justice' Sep 12, 2025
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    The Fitzgerald Theater was filled to the rafters Wednesday night for the season launch of Talking Volumes. Activist and novelist Stacey Abrams joined Kerri Miller on stage and began the evening with a moment of silence to mark the political assassination of Charlie Kirk, who had been shot and killed only hours earlier.


    Abrams, herself a national political figure, said dark moments such as these need to be met with determined unity — to stand for and with one another. She got those values from her parents, she said, who always emphasized the need to be in church, in school and in service to others.


    She also reflected on how failure has worked in her life as a catalyst for growth and how books have led her to develop a deep moral consciousness.


    It’s no surprise to readers who love her novels — including “Coded Justice,” the latest thriller in the Avery Keene series, which finds Avery relying on her friends to investigate the morally murky world of AI-powered medicine. Abram’s books are filled with memorable characters who exhibit the same kind of determination and hope that Abram’s embodies.


    Don’t miss Abram’s warm and inspiring conversation with Kerri Miller, rounded out by the musical styles of Minneapolis’ own Lady Midnight, as the 2025 Talking Volumes season begins.


    Video of Talking Volumes with Stacey Abrams

    And get your tickets for future shows, which include Patricia Lockwood on Sept. 25, Misty Copeland on Sept. 28, John Grisham on Oct. 23 and Kate Baer on Nov. 17.


    Guest:


    • Stacey Abrams is an activist, an entrepreneur, a political leader and a bestselling author. Her new novel, the third in the Avery Keene series, is “Coded Justice.”

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    Mike Osterholm reflects on lessons from the pandemic in 'The Big One' Sep 06, 2025
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    When the next pandemic hits, will we be ready?


    That’s the question at the center of University of Minnesota epidemiologist Mike Osterholm’s new book, “The Big One.” And his answer is sobering.


    Osterholm joined Kerri Miller on this week’s Big Books and Bold Ideas for a blunt and personal assessment of what went right and what went wrong during the COVID-19 pandemic. He’s insistent that if we don’t learn the lessons of the last pandemic, we will be even less prepared for the next one.


    Here are five key takeaways from their conversation.


    1. Public health communication can’t just be factual.


    Osterholm is the founding director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota and has decades of experience tracking and researching outbreaks. He said the big lesson for public health leaders is that kindness and humility have to be forefront as they communicate.


    Humility is important, he told Miller, because “people mistakenly think that science is truth. It’s not. Science is the pursuit of truth.” He said the scientific community needs to do a better job explaining what we know now and how that might change as research continues.


    But the bigger lesson, for him, was that a “just the facts, ma’am” approach isn’t effective. Public health messages need to resonate with people on a personal level.


    Early in the pandemic, he broke down crying on his own podcast after a close colleague’s death. That human moment ended up being a connection point for people.


    “It wasn’t about the factual stuff I talked about,” Osterholm said. “It was about relating to people on that emotional level of what we were experiencing and how we reach out to each other. So the podcast became more and more of a blending of the science — what’s in the head — with concern for what’s in the heart.”


    2. When we know what stops transmission, go all-in on that.


    Once we knew that COVID-19 was an aerosol, Osterholm said, it should have shifted how we thought about transmission.


    “We spent millions of dollars on useless things like Plexiglass shields. I kept telling people: If you can put a cigarette on this side of it and smell it, you’re getting hit.”


    The only thing that really stops COVID-19 is a well-fitting N95 mask, said Osterholm. Instead of wasting time and money on hygiene theater and cloth masks, we should have “initiated a Manhattan Project-like activity to find the same kind of respiratory protection in something that’s wearable, something that could be washed and reused over and over again, something that people could communicate in and not feel claustrophobic.”


    “And do you know how much we’ve invested in that?” he asked. “Zero.”


    3. Mandates aren’t a magic solution.


    While he absolutely believes the COVID vaccines saved lives and are safe, Osterholm isn’t sold on the efficacy of mandates.


    “In some cases, I think we set ourselves back with a mandate,” he told Miller. “If you want to turn someone off so you never have a chance to reach them, tell them they have to do it.”


    A better way, he believes, is to give people agency.


    “What you find is, that if you actually work with people and say, ‘OK, you’re not going to get it now, but let me give you more information,’ you actually get more people vaccinated. And the whole point for me is: I want the most number of people vaccinated.”


    4. The lack of a nonpartisan reports to examine the errors made during COVID-19 is glaring.


    Osterholm strongly believes there should be a federal, 9/11 Commission-style report that looks back at COVID-19. He and his coauthor, Mark Olshaker, wrote “The Big One” because there isn’t one.


    “We wanted to make certain there was a record somewhere of what happened or didn't happen and what … could have made a difference,” he told Miller.


    One example: Osterholm contends widespread lockdowns were ineffective and crude.


    “The most important thing was having good medical care, and how are you going to get good medical care if your hospital is at 140 percent capacity? You can’t.”


    Instead, he said, we should have used strategic “snow days” with the goal to keep hospital beds under 90 to 95 percent occupancy.


    “If we could do that, we could get good medical care that would make a difference” in saving lives, he said, without stalling the economy or forcing kids to do school at home.


    5. We are going backward on preparedness for the next pandemic.


    But as sobering as the past is, Osterholm was most dire about what comes next.


    “We are living in the most dangerous time that public health has experienced,” he told Miller. “[The current administration] has taken the public health system as we know it and gutted it in this country. [Look at] what's happened at the CDC this past week, with the firing of the new director who has been there a month, the loss of the senior people there, the fact that the one redeeming, hopeful lesson we learned during the pandemic is how important vaccines could be. And now we have stopped all research on the one vaccine that holds the best future for us with influenza pandemics and COVID pandemics. We live in a very anti-science world right now. And I never thought that I would see the day that the CDC, the NIH and the FDA are enemies of public health, as opposed to the protectors of it.”


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    What being a mailman taught Stephen Grant about work, belonging and going the extra mile Aug 29, 2025
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    Stephen Grant was laid off from his job at a boutique marketing agency in March 2020, right when COVID took the world hostage.


    Newly diagnosed with cancer, he needed health insurance, fast — plus, he was the primary financial supporter of his wife and daughters. Which is how he found himself becoming a mail carrier, back in his hometown in rural Appalachia.


    It was a tough transition. Grant was bad at his job — “deeply incompetent,” he writes in his new memoir, “Mailman.” He is shaken by his lack of real-life skills, by his inability to feel at home in the mountains where he grew up, by his uncertainty in what it means to be in community during a time of isolation.


    But “Mailman” rarely lingers on the malcontent. Instead, what Grant learned about himself, his fellow Appalachians and our country as a whole propel his new book. He joins host Kerri Miller on this week’s Big Books and Bold Ideas to share stories about working as a rural mail carrier, about blue collar versus white collar work, and about the overlooked importance of public service in a fractured nation.


    Guest:


    • Stephen Starring Grant is a writer and brand strategist. His new memoir is “Mailman: My Wild Ride Delivering the Mail in Appalachia and Finally Finding Home.”

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