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Food Freedom, MAHA and the State-by-State Fight Over Food Safety | Doug Farquhar Oct 20, 2026

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Why do some states embrace “food freedom” while others stick with strict regulation? And why do red and blue states often end up facing the exact same food safety problems?
Doug Farquhar, JD, Director of Government Affairs for the National Environmental Health Association (NEHA), joins Cameron Garrison live from the WAFDO / CEHA / Rocky Mountain Food Safety Conference Mega Conference in Denver.
With more than 30 years working with state legislatures, Doug breaks down:
Why there’s no single federal environmental health law
How and why states adopt (or don’t adopt) the FDA Food Code
The rise of Food Freedom laws and unregulated food sales
MAHA-style legislation showing up in unexpected states
The difference between a cottage-food cupcake exemption and retail raw milk or unregulated meat
How state budgets and healthcare costs are quietly reshaping public health priorities
This is a clear-eyed look at the real policy landscape environmental health professionals, regulators, and industry are navigating right now.
Featured guest: Doug Farquhar, JD — NEHA
CHAPTERS
0:00 Cold Open: Red States, Blue States, Same Problems
0:34 Podcast Opening
0:46 Live from the Denver Mega Conference
1:24 Why Environmental Health Organizations Need to Collaborate
2:53 Finding Common Ground Across a Fragmented Field
4:19 Doug Farquhar’s Path into Environmental Health Policy
5:24 How Environmental Health Became Its Own Field
5:45 AFDO Midroll: Free E-News and Quick Bites
7:13 The Patchwork of Federal Environmental Health Authority
8:00 Why States Do Not Use the Same Food Code
9:02 Political Support, Budgets, and Delayed Adoption
9:52 How State Political Systems Shape Public Health Law
11:01 Mississippi and Iowa Lead on the EPA Lead Rule
11:49 Why the Real Policy Action Happens in the States
12:30 MAHA Laws, Food Dyes, and Nutrition Training
14:33 Red and Blue States Confront the Same Health Problems
15:03 Mississippi Tackles Childhood Obesity
15:54 How Health Costs Changed State Priorities
17:11 Michelle Obama, RFK Jr., and Overlapping Messages
18:32 Why New York Still Uses the 2001 Food Code
19:27 The State Backlash to FSMA
21:15 Federal Funding as a Policy Lever
22:15 Adoption of the 2026 Food Code
23:30 Food Freedom and the Growth of Unregulated Sales
24:17 The Michigan Cupcake Bill
24:50 Raw Milk and Unregulated Meat in Retail Stores
26:04 Food Sovereignty and Political Role Reversals in Maine
27:23 Why Political Alliances Shift by Issue
28:01 Closing and Doug’s Second Keynote of the Day
Learn more about NEHA: https://www.neha.org
AFDO E-News & Quick Bites: https://www.afdo.org
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A Mouse Baked Into Sliced Bread | and 170 Other Things Environmental Health Handles. Oct 16, 2026

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Special Friday drop and the first full check flight from the new permanent studio. Cameron sits down with Adam Smith of HS GovTech for a look at the show heading into 2027, the rebuilt HSGovTech site, and why environmental health is set up to lead the next wave of regulatory tech.
They open on three studios in two years, the road sets from NEHA Phoenix and Kansas City, and the elevator moment in Denver with Rebecca from Garfield County. The show is past 8,000 subscribers. Adam walks through the new story form so inspectors can submit what they have seen, on camera or anonymous. The example that still sticks: a mouse baked into a loaf of bread, then sliced. The fingertip in the salad is the runner-up.
Then the site. Adam quarterbacked a rebuild that is a resource, not a sales wall. The catalog shows more than 170 regulatory program areas on HS Cloud Suite, each clickable. Cameron on why EH workflows are more complex than building and planning, and how Maine’s agriculture work led the Gaming Commission to the same platform. Implementation lessons from neighboring agencies. More than 1,100 agencies on the suite. Coming on the blog: a plain-English guide to the new FDA Food Code and the NEHA Retail Flexible Funding Model grants.
They close on AI. The site was built in six weeks instead of three to six months. AI-assisted mobile inspections are in flight. Adam’s daughter Theo just turned one. His first appearance on the show never aired.
Beyond Data Management is powered by HS GovTech. Recorded in the new studio.
Links
HSGovTech resources: https://www.hsgovtech.com/resources
Beyond Data Management: https://www.hsgovtech.com/bdmpodcast
Submit a story: Beyond@HSCloudSuite.com
Chapters
0:00 A special Friday episode from the new studio
1:04 Meet Adam Smith
2:20 Three studios in two years
4:13 Conspiracies, road shows, and taking the podcast on tour
6:33 Meeting the environmental health community
7:39 8,000 subscribers and what is coming in 2027
8:25 How to submit your environmental health story
9:08 Why the public needs to hear inspector stories
10:36 The mouse baked into sliced bread
12:15 Why HSGovTech rebuilt its website
13:56 Why environmental health is more complex than it looks
15:13 How EH workflows expanded into gaming
16:36 More than 170 supported regulatory programs
18:28 A searchable catalog of real agency use cases
19:31 Transparent resources instead of a sales wall
20:32 Podcasts, webinars, blogs, and customer stories
21:31 Implementation lessons from neighboring agencies
22:37 More than 1,100 agencies on HS Cloud Suite
23:33 FDA Food Code and Retail Flexible Funding Model resources
24:33 Making grant funding easier to use
26:56 AI at HSGovTech and a website built in six weeks
28:00 AI-assisted mobile inspections
28:31 Parenthood, sleep, and travel gifts
30:44 Adam’s unreleased first appearance
32:21 Closing and a preview of season three

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AI Food Safety Audits: PathSpot, Chopt and the End of Clipboards Oct 13, 2026

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Can artificial intelligence replace million-dollar restaurant audit programs—and make food safer at the same time?
Recorded at the 2026 WAFDO, CEHA and Rocky Mountain Food Safety Conference Mega Conference in Denver, Cameron Garrison sits down with PathSpot co-founder and CEO Christine Schindler and Chopt Creative Salad Company co-founder Colin McCabe.
Colin shares how he and Tony Shure grew Chopt from one New York City restaurant into a major fast-casual brand—and how an outbreak involving a product Chopt did not even serve still damaged sales because consumers associated the problem with salad generally.
The conversation then moves into the future of restaurant food safety: connected temperature monitoring, handwashing verification, digital labeling, AI-powered spot audits, photographic evidence and real-time coaching.
Christine explains how PathSpot is working to replace fragmented checklists and expensive, infrequent third-party audits with a continuous food-safety operating system. Colin offers the operator’s perspective: new technology only works if it is easy to use, saves labor and gives restaurant teams actionable information.
Chapters
0:00 Opening from the Denver Mega Conference
0:54 Meet Christine Schindler and Colin McCabe
1:07 Building Chopt into a 100-restaurant brand
1:39 How a lettuce outbreak hurt an unrelated brand
3:45 The origins of fast casual
4:24 A restaurant founder obsessed with food safety
4:59 How Colin found PathSpot
6:40 The complete food-safety cockpit
7:37 Overcoming cost and operator mindspace
9:51 PathSpot adoption across the food industry
10:31 AI spot audits and major cost savings
11:09 Photos, standardization, and continuous oversight
12:43 Technology must be easy and save time
13:30 Replacing seven-figure audit programs
14:34 Turning audit time into targeted training
16:27 Restaurant staffing, turnover, and training
17:07 Why Chopt employees stay
18:59 Food safety as a predictor of restaurant performance
20:21 Technology as a recruiting and culture advantage
21:32 Restaurants, health departments, and data sharing
23:09 The next PathSpot innovations
25:13 How AI changes product development
26:18 Closing remarks
They also discuss:
• Why traditional inspections provide only a snapshot
• How photographic evidence reduces disagreement and auditing bias
• The potential to save restaurant brands seven figures in audit and travel costs
• Turning inspection findings into targeted employee training
• Restaurant staffing, retention and food-safety culture
• Why strong food-safety performance can predict overall restaurant performance
• How technology can become a recruiting and retention advantage
• Whether restaurants should share internal safety data with health departments
• Why AI allows technology companies to build requested features much faster
Learn more:
PathSpot: https://pathspot.com
Chopt Creative Salad Company: https://www.choptsalad.com
WAFDO: https://wafdo.wildapricot.org
Beyond Data Management is hosted by Cameron Garrison and powered by HSGovTech.
#FoodSafety #RestaurantTechnology #ArtificialIntelligence #EnvironmentalHealth #PathSpot #Chopt #RestaurantManagement #PublicHealth #FoodService #BeyondDataManagement

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He Teaches Food Safety to Future Doctors - Almost No Med School Does - BDMP ep 57 Oct 06, 2026

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Description
Dr. Ben Ryan joins Cameron at GEHA 2026 on Lake Lanier, about a half hour outside Atlanta. Ryan is a professor at the Frist College of Medicine at Belmont University in Nashville, where he is putting environmental health into a brand-new medical school. He previously helped stand up a master’s of public health and environmental health program at Baylor, and he is in his first year as NEHA Region 7 representative (Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, the Carolinas, and Florida).
They get into why first-year med students light up over toxicology and food safety, why an MD running a health department often has almost no environmental health training, and the Bureau of Labor Statistics estimate of about 27,000 environmental science and occupational health jobs a year for the next decade. Ryan on the salary gap pulling people out of local government, Tennessee’s tuition package as a retention tool, and why a five-to-ten-year pipeline may be the realistic model.
Episode Timeline:
0:00 Opening and Introduction
0:22 Meet Dr. Ben Ryan
0:55 Bringing Environmental Health into Medical School
2:50 Environmental Health Careers and Workforce Demand
4:26 Recruiting and Retaining Government Professionals
5:24 What a NEHA Regional Representative Does
6:46 Teaching Future Physicians at Belmont
8:54 Why Build a Brand-New Medical School Program?
10:38 From Australia to the United States
11:52 Environmental Health in Australia vs. the U.S.
14:36 Pandemic Response and Geographic Isolation
16:58 Adapting to American Culture
18:06 NEHA Growth and the Next Generation
18:34 AI, Surveillance, and the Human in the Loop
20:12 Turning Data into Faster Public-Health Action
22:03 How Students Should Use AI
23:04 Measuring Environmental Health’s Impact
24:46 Closing Remarks
Also on the table: Australia vs. the U.S. He grew up in Canberra, trained at Griffith in Brisbane, and has been in the States about nine years. Australia is only now opening a CDC and has no National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences equivalent. Dengue, cyclones, and local environmental health officers look familiar. The pandemic timeline did not. Friends back home were still locked down while he was at a Rangers game.
They close on NEHA’s 7,000-plus members, 1,300 at the Kansas City AEC, 150 of them students, and using AI on inspection and surveillance data with a registered environmental health specialist still in the loop. Georgia’s new system lands in November. Same rule as everywhere else: storing the data is not the same as acting on it.
Beyond Data Management is powered by HS GovTech.
Recorded live at the Lake Lanier Islands Resort for GEHA 2026.

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“The Cats Will Handle Our Rodent Problem” - A Health Inspector’s Life | Chase Boddicker ep 56 Sep 29, 2026

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Chase Boddicker never planned to be a health inspector. He trimmed trees and sprayed pesticides for Grand Junction Parks and Rec. His wife Kyla saw the Mesa County posting and said try it. Three years later he’s on the western slope talking food, air, and why the job is almost never the hammer people think it is.
Recorded live at the CEHA + WAFDO Mega Conference in Lakewood, Colorado.
In this episode:
Iowa cornfields to 1.5 million acres of public land on the western slope
Why “thank God you’re here” is the sentence that makes an inspector pay attention
Cat food in the kitchen — “obviously, to feed the cats” that were the pest-control plan
The operator closed on their very first routine inspection
The mobile unit that kept selling because “the freezer still works”
The guy who called every inspector an expletive… then roasted Chase for temping chicken wrong… then decided Chase was his favorite
Colorado’s certified nose: Nasal Ranger, opacity, burn bans
Advice for day-one inspectors: be curious, drop the acronyms, say “I don’t know”
Yellow gloves on the ready-to-eat line, and why humility in someone else’s kitchen matters
Why asking about the brisket is better enforcement than writing the ticket
“¿Cómo se dice?” and the Mesa County team behind him
Chase’s rule before he writes anything down: what are they trying to do?
Beyond Data Management — powered by HS GovTech.

Chapters
text0:00 Episode Preview
0:32 Opening
0:45 Live from the Colorado Mega Conference
1:26 Meet Chase Boddicker of Mesa County
2:52 From Tree Work to Environmental Health
3:52 A Wife’s Nudge Changes a Career
5:11 AFDO
6:07 From Iowa to Colorado
7:23 The Relational Side of Inspections
10:38 Cats as Pest Control
12:44 Memorable Inspection Stories
17:32 Air Quality and the Certified Nose
19:15 Advice for New Inspectors
21:13 Curiosity as a Career Advantage
24:17 Seizing Unexpected Opportunities
26:20 Humility and Respect Inside Kitchens
28:07 Education Over Enforcement
29:58 The Team Behind the Inspector
31:26 Closing Thoughts
Guest: Chase Boddicker, Mesa County Public Health, Colorado

AFDO Fresh Take Friday Webinar Series: https://AFDO.org/fresh-take-Fridays
Recorded at: CEHA and WAFDO Mega Conference, Lakewood, CO

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The Only Inspector in the County | Danielle Hurst Wraps GEHA 2026 Sep 22, 2026

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Danielle Hurst, MPH, is Cook County’s only environmentalist — 87 food services, septic, land use, billing, the whole door. She also emceed every session at GEHA 2026. Recorded as the conference wrapped at Lake Lanier.
She spent 10 years as an X-ray tech, started an undergrad for PA school, and applied for this job when epi didn’t have an opening. She stayed because she does not like sitting in an office.
In this conversation:
What it means to be the only EHS in a 10-county South Georgia district’s smallest county
Mom-and-pop consistency vs. corporate turnover — and restaurants that never came back after COVID
Regulating people you see in the grocery store and whose kids go to school with yours
Why she calls people like Tim Callahan “hidden heroes”
Food trucks, sister agencies, and why Georgia’s Health–Ag relationship is stronger than most states
Rolling into president-elect and running the conference again next year
How she booked the guests before the podcast even unpacked
Live from GEHA 2026, Lake Lanier, Georgia.
Beyond Data Management, powered by HS GovTech.
Chapters
00:00 Wrap-up at Lake Lanier
00:53 She booked Food Truck Matt off an episode
01:00 Emcee of every session
01:16 Cook County — 87 facilities, one environmentalist
02:34 Mom and pop vs. turnover
03:18 COVID, staffing, restaurants that closed
04:05 Neighbors in the grocery store
05:37 Was the conference a success?
07:54 Tim Callahan’s award
08:08 Hidden heroes
09:13 X-ray tech to environmentalist
12:20 President-elect next
13:10 The food truck session
13:49 Health and Ag in the same room
15:14 Find your Danielle
16:38 Tear-down / thanks
Links
AFDO Meaningful Metrics — https://www.afdo.org/training/

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An Inspector’s Camera Roll: Sewage in Neighbor’s Yard, Dentures in a Bowl, and a creepy Pizza Place Sep 16, 2026

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Joseph Addison (Fayette County, Georgia) has placed in the NEHA photo contest three years running. Recorded live at GEHA 2026, he walks Cameron through 12 photos from the field — the funny ones, the filthy ones, and the one he did not put on the report.
In this episode:
-“Biscuitus” and other kitchen personality that isn’t in the code
-A septic repair that got dumped into the neighbor’s yard (2nd place, NEHA general category)
-The pizza-place back room that looked like a lab — and why he pocketed the phone and left
-Dentures in a mixing bowl
A septic tank that floated out of the ground after a pump-out and a downpour
-Bloodshot googly eyes over a prep sink
-A hibachi floor so greasy it looked black — and why that still wasn’t an automatic close
-The difference between “gross” and “will put someone in the ER”
-Joseph’s point the whole hour: this is not a gotcha job. Inspectors are guests in someone else’s house. Call your inspector before the floor turns into sludge.
Beyond Data Management — powered by HS GovTech. Recorded at GEHA 2026, Lake Lanier. Special thanks to Danielle, Austin and the entire GEHA team for their invitation and hospitality.
Be sure to subscribe for free to AFDO's Quick Take Friday's: https://AFDO.org/fresh-take-fridays
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:23 Live from GEHA + the NEHA photo contest
1:48 Why some departments won’t let inspectors take photos
2:34 Fayette County, Georgia
3:09 Photo 1: World Famous Biscuitus
4:07 Photo 2: Septic repair dumped into the neighbor’s yard
7:11 Photo 3: The pizza-place back room
10:25 Why he didn’t write it up — or call the cops
11:17 The roadside fish box with one prop fillet
12:03 The dentures
21:00 The septic tank that floated out of the ground
21:45 Googly eyes over the prep sink
23:42 Dishwasher grease + the same facility’s floors
26:00 Hibachi grease measured in inches
28:20 Gross vs. what actually shuts you down
30:10 They volunteered to close — then pressure-washed the building
31:15 Recurring segment: Life on the Road with Joseph Addison
32:10 Advice to operators: call your inspector
33:14 Close
This episode captures the unvarnished side of public health work. Cameron walks through an actual inspector actual camera roll, showing the bizarre and challenging scenarios that inspectors encounter daily. It is a raw look at what really happens when you walk into a site and find a pizza place that defies all logic.
Subscribe for weekly public health and safety breakdowns. Let us know in the comments: what is the strangest thing you have ever found on an inspection?
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LA Has 15,000 Unpermitted Vendors — And 119 Free Carts Sitting in a Warehouse | Matt Geller Sep 08, 2026

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Matt Geller is back — National Food Truck Association, Best Food Trucks, Revolution Carts — recorded live at GEHA 2026 at Lake Lanier.
This one is not a “how to start a food truck” episode. It’s a field report from the biggest mobile-vending mess in the country.
LA County paid for 125 permitted carts to get unpermitted vendors into the formal economy. Most of them are still sitting in a warehouse. An NGO was paid $1.2 million to get paperwork signed. Eight vendors made it through. Enforcement of unpermitted vending was paused. Meanwhile 15,000–30,000 unpermitted vendors are operating every day — no sinks, no commissary, no A grade — and permitted operators are competing against people who follow none of the rules.
Matt also breaks:
Kansas City’s 300-foot “no trucks near restaurants” rule
Home Depot’s national push to put permitted carts in front of stores
How ChatGPT sent Apple to Best Food Trucks
Feeding Boeing’s Everett plant (the building that spans two counties)
A new app that lets permitted trucks photo-report unpermitted vendors and heat-map problem corridors for health departments
Plus the advice he actually gives people who want to start a cart: know your numbers, test throughput with 20 friends, and don’t price off pre-cook weight.
If you work in environmental health, this is the episode that explains why “just give them a cart” fails without enforcement, education, and a real path into the formal economy.
Recorded at the Georgia Environmental Health Association 2026 conference.
Afdo.org/training
0:00 Intro
0:20 Live from GEHA 2026 with Matt Geller
1:03 National Food Truck Association + Kansas City’s 300-foot rule
2:04 Georgia laws, Home Depot, and the tamale-to-six-figures story
3:19 Revolution Carts: what they’re building
3:40 125 permitted carts for LA — most still in a warehouse
5:12 $1.2 million to hand out paperwork (8 vendors processed)
6:32 Enforcement pause, ICE, and competing with unpermitted vendors
8:29 Why vendors won’t take a free permitted cart
9:08 “Are we waiting until someone gets sick and dies?”
9:45 Two food systems: Venice gets an A, East LA gets whatever shows up
11:28 The pendulum: too strict in 2010, too loose now
13:06 Pop-up tents, no sinks, and outbreaks as a when not an if
13:52 The carrot: Home Depot, LA Metro, and county buildings
24:54 How ChatGPT sent Apple to Best Food Trucks
25:52 Feeding Boeing Everett — the building that spans two counties
28:29 What actually wins catering work (photos, signatures, not “sent from iPhone”)
30:21 From food-truck mania to part of the landscape
30:28 The operator who kept one truck unpermitted on purpose
31:33 The new app: permitted trucks report unpermitted vendors + heat maps
33:16 Advice if you want to start a cart: know your numbers
35:23 The pastrami-shrink math that killed a $5.99 sandwich
37:08 Wrap + what’s next
Shorter set if you don’t want 18 markers:
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From IBM Statistician to Kroger Food Safety Chef | Chef John live at GEHA 2026 Sep 03, 2026

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Chef John does food safety and regulatory compliance for Kroger’s Atlanta division — 182 stores across Georgia, Alabama, and South Carolina. Recorded live at GEHA 2026 on Lake Lanier.
He started at IBM as a statistician, took a buyout, and IBM paid for Johnson & Wales. Now he’s the chef who still cooks for TV — and the guy who trains store leaders as Certified Food Protection Managers.
In this conversation:
How Kroger’s FAST system (Food at Safe Temperatures) puts sensors every four feet and alerts when a case goes above 41°F
Freezing day-of-expiration product for Second Harvest instead of throwing it away.
A mobile grocery store for food deserts, built with the Georgia Department of Agriculture
Why Chipotle, Blue Bell, and Boar’s Head still sit in the back of consumers’ minds
Wet-aging a ribeye in cryovac, sear hot, finish at 250°F to 133
Feeding 3,500 people at South Beach Food & Wine — with food safety first
What industry should actually do at state EH associations instead of treating inspectors like “the cops”
Live from GEHA 2026, Lake Lanier, Georgia.
Beyond Data Management, powered by HS GovTech.
Chapters
00:00 Intro — live at GEHA
00:40 “If I told them my last name…”
01:45 182 stores, three states
04:12 IBM statistician → Johnson & Wales
06:32 Shrink, food banks, Second Harvest
09:19 FAST sensors every 4 feet
11:35 Chipotle, Blue Bell, Boar’s Head
13:49 CFPM training for every store leader
15:47 Mobile grocery store / food deserts
23:50 How Chef John cooks a ribeye
28:13 King’s Hawaiian / 3,500 covers
29:17 Super Bowl and World Cup food safety
33:41 Everybody has a camera
35:02 Recipe on the front, food safety on the back
Links
AFDO Crucial Conversations — https://www.afdo.org/training/
GEHA 2026

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He Walked Away From a PhD. Now He’s GEHA’s President | Austin Haney at Lake Lanier | Ep51 Sep 02, 2026

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Austin Haney is EHS-5, district standard trainer, data specialist — and president of the Georgia Environmental Health Association. Recorded live at GEHA 2026 on Lake Lanier.
He did not take the lunch-table path. Bachelor’s and master’s at Valdosta State. Two years of a PhD at Oregon State. One year at UF’s Whitney Marine Lab. Then 2020 hit, and he asked what he actually wanted: a job that let him come home and still matter. His old office mate at the health department said there were no openings. Called back the next day. The job had been vacant a year.
In this conversation:
The interview question he actually asked: what does a day in the life of an EHS look like?
Why the job is ServSafe + CPO + Level 2 soil classifier + chief rabies officer + mosquito ID under a microscope
12 to 15 mosquito species you see in a gravid trap — and the weird ones that show up in a light trap
The memorable inspection isn’t the disaster. It’s the third visit to a troubled restaurant when he walked in and said “fantastic” before he started
Why manager turnover broke the relationship that used to create that change
GEHA’s travel-restriction year vs. this year’s rebound — and why he’s serving a second term as president
Testing Georgia’s new statewide EHIS with 60–70 people on the call, going live in November
Live from GEHA 2026, Lake Lanier, Georgia.
Beyond Data Management, powered by HS GovTech.
Chapters
00:00 Live from Lake Lanier
00:54 EHS-5, trainer, data specialist
01:18 GEHA president
03:32 The non-traditional path
04:16 Oregon State, UF, and 2020
05:22 The office-mate phone call
06:06 “What does an EHS actually do?”
07:13 How you ID a mosquito
09:13 Rabies, septic, and every cert in the book
10:37 GEHA, travel cuts, second term
16:00 The inspection story that isn’t gory
18:31 Turnover and lost relationships
19:50 Statewide data conversion
24:02 Thanks / next guest
Links
AFDO eNews & Quick Bites — https://www.afdo.org/newsletter-updates/

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