Stay ConnectedFrom the Appalachian Trail to the Pacific Crest and everything in between. Backpacker Radio is a show all about the wonderful world that is thru-hiking and long distance backpacking.
Co-hosts, Zach “Badger” Davis and Juliana “Chaunce” Chauncey muse on the backpacking life and the latest from the trail every other week. Topics include but are not limited to news, trail culture, interviews, gear, advice, and all you can eat buffets.
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In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by the Daley Family. Marketa and David Daley have been avid backpackers for many years, and have not let the addition of their three kids Sequoia (age 6), Joshua (age 4), and Standa (age 3) slow them down in the slightest. Their recent treks include thru-hikes of the Tahoe Rim Trail, 1,300 miles of the Pacific Crest Trail, and 250 miles of the Appalachian Trail this year. Although we've interviewed thru-hiking families in the past, we cover some new ground here, including managing breastfeeding while backpacking, an honest portrayal of the challenges that come along with backpacking with three young kids and how that gets more challenging as the family grows, the events that are most likely to trigger meltdowns, dealing with critiques from the online community, and why they still wouldn't have it any other way. This is an insightful chat for anyone who's curious what it's like to backpack with multiple youngsters.
We wrap the show with a story of a woman who was bitten by a black bear on the Appalachian Trail, the triple crown of backpacking-specific compliments, and an impromptu interview with a Patreon Chuck Norris Award Winner about backpacking on the Centennial Trail.
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Interview with Marketa and David Daley
Time stamps & Questions
00:02:48 - QOTD: Rank who gets the most excited when a pregnancy is announced
00:07:25 - Support us on Patreon to get bonus content!
00:11:20 - The TrovaTrip is happening!
00:13:30 - Introducing the Daley family
00:14:33 - What are everyone's trail names?
00:16:22 - How did you two get into backpacking?
00:18:19 - Where did you move to America from?
00:20:31 - What was it like growing up in a PCT town?
00:22:22 - How did you both get into trail work?
00:23:14 - What was your thought process when you first got pregnant with Sequoia?
00:24:18 - What is the toughest age of kid to backpack with?
00:25:23 - We Love Love: tell us more about how you met and fell in love
00:31:00 - Was Sequoia a surprise?
00:32:03 - Walk us through the evolution from not wanting kids to having 3 of them
00:34:22 - Have all three of the kids adapted to the outdoors easily?
00:35:56 - At what point did the prospect of a long backpacking trip become feasible?
00:37:41 - What is it like to adopt a child and did backpacking play a role?
00:40:00 - How did Sequoia adapt to gaining a sibling?
00:42:40 - What was the main difference between backpacking with one kid versus two?
00:43:40 - Tell us about water crossings with kids
00:45:45 - Tell us about the Tahoe Rim Trail
00:47:40 - What does your backpacking schedule look like?
00:48:56 - How has hiking with kids changed your relationship with each other?
00:50:25 - Does any part of you feel like you're sacrificing the way you want to hike?
00:52:31 - How do you gauge whether your kids are enjoying the hiking or not?
00:55:18 - Relative to their peers, what attributes do you think your kids have gained?
00:56:35 - Have you ever freaked out on trail about the kids?
00:58:02 - Tell us about breastfeeding and food on trail
01:00:30 - Tell us about hiking the PCT in 2022
01:03:00 - What is your gear setup?
01:04:50 - How did you ration water?
01:06:29 - Are the kids comfortable with night hiking?
01:07:28 - How do you prepare kids for dealing with rattlesnakes?
01:09:17 - At what age did you feel like you can cohesively communicate dangers to them?
01:10:22 - Tell us your best kid poop stories
01:12:32 - Is there a common meltdown trigger, and how do you deal with them?
01:15:40 - Tell us about your experiment on the last day of the AT
01:17:52 - What caused you to get off the AT?
01:20:25 - What has the feedback been on social media versus in real life?
01:25:37 - What's the most common question you get?
01:28:22 - Do you feel pressure to set records as a hiking family?
01:30:00 - Would say either the PCT or AT is more kid friendly?
01:31:06 - How do you handle the threat of ticks on the AT?
01:32:00 - What's next?
01:33:19 - Is there a non-obvious question related to kids hiking that we haven't asked?
SEGMENTS
Chuck Norris Award Winner Interview
Trek Propaganda
Triple Crown of backpacking-specific compliments
Mail Bag
5 Star Review
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In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Alina Drufovka aka Abstract. In addition to being a thru-hiker and adventurer, you're likely already familiar with the name Abstract because of her incredible and unique outdoor-themed artwork. We learn all about Alina's transformation from thru-hiker to now full-time artist, her time on the AT, PCT, and Israel National Trail, her current gig as an Ambassadors on the Get Outside Tour where she travels the country in a van alongside her boyfriend, attending outdoor events, leading clinics, and overall spreading joy to the people. Abstract is nothing but good vibes and this is a spirited interview that will elicit smiles.
We wrap the show with a chat about why cell phones don't appear in dreams (or do they?), a story about a PCT hiker who was bit by a rattlesnake, a triple crown of people who are probably serial killers, and more!
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Interview with Alina "Abstract" Drufovka
Time stamps & Questions
00:04:01 - QOTD: Have cell phones ever appeared in your dreams?
00:09:55 - Reminders: Is it or is it not Rachel's birthday?
00:13:25 - Introducing Alina
00:14:20 - Tell us about hiking the AT 1.5 times
00:17:20 - We Love Love!
00:22:16 - Discussion about being half Colombian, half Jewish
00:24:52 - How did your love blossom along the trail?
00:26:10 - How did you learn about the AT at age 13?
00:27:57 - What was it like retracing your steps two years after being injured?
00:28:40 - Tell us about the St. Patty's party trail magic
00:34:00 - Does your mom fit the stereotype of a nervous Jewish mom?
00:37:40 - What are the cornerstones of your grandma's book?
00:41:10 - What was it like to get past the point where you got off trail the first time?
00:43:10 - Discussion about expressing interest in someone without being creepy
00:44:22 - What's the story behind the Wonder Woman outfit?
00:46:15 - At what point did art intersect with thru-hiking?
00:48:00 - Discussion about Abstract's art style
00:51:28 - Tell us about hiking the Israel National Trail in 2018
00:54:35 - What are towns like on the Israel National Trail?
00:55:44 - Discussion about making Aliyah and Birthright
00:58:02 - Did you feel safe on the Israel National Trail?
00:59:50 - What advice do you have for people interested in the Israel National Trail?
01:02:30 - Interlude: Rachel's birthday!
01:05:15 - Tell us about the PCT in 2019
01:08:24 - What was it like to live in Colombia?
01:10:30 - What were the biggest differences between Colombia and Israel?
01:11:15 - How did you turn your art into a business?
01:15:45 - Tell us about the Embark program
01:16:27 - Have you experienced imposter syndrome?
01:19:57 - How do you decide when to release something new and price your art?
01:20:55 - What's been your biggest business challenge?
01:22:53 - How do you deal with having your designs ripped off?
01:28:21 - What's your inspiration for a new painting these days?
01:29:29 - What is the Get Outside tour?
01:33:58 - How many events will you attend?
01:35:01 - Did you get to customize the van?
01:38:40 - What events are coming up on the tour?
01:39:40 - Fuck Marry Kill: Appalachian Trail, Pacific Trail, Israel National Trail
01:40:10 - What piece of art are you most proud of?
01:41:31 - Describe your art to the listeners
01:43:30 - Where can people follow you?
01:44:14 - Tell us about living on a commune
01:50:37 - Are you interested in polyamory?
01:51:30 - If you could bring an aspect of commune life into your regular life, what would it be?
SEGMENTS
Trek Propaganda
Stupid Thing of the Week
Listener Voicemail
Triple Crown of people who might be serial killers
Mail Bag
5 Star Review
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In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are re-joined by friend of the show, Renee "She-ra" Patrick. She-ra is a triple crowner whose backpacking experience you heard all about in episode 44, today we catch up on all she's been up to since last being on the show, including hikes on the Blue Mountains Trail, the Corvallis to Sea Trail, re-visiting the AT as a southbounder, and more. Renee also walks us through her latest endeavor and mission to help long-distance organizations improve the trail experience for hikers and to bring awareness to conservation efforts on trails across the country.
We wrap the show with things our parents told us that we're now pretty sure is a lie, the triple crown of ways we're turning into our parents, a few ways to save money in town as a thru-hiker, and more.
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Interview with Renee "She-ra" Patrick
Time stamps & Questions
00:03:28 - QOTD: What's something your parents used to tell you that you're now pretty sure is a lie?
00:06:30 - Introducing She-ra
00:07:05 - Catch us up on your last 4 years
00:08:48 - Tell us about the Wallowa Mountains in Oregon
00:10:20 - Discussion about managing the Oregon Desert Trail
00:12:30 - What kind of issues occur in that area?
00:14:11 - What is the number one challenge with building a trail?
00:16:00 - What's your trail resume?
00:18:00 - What was it like hiking on the AT 20 years after your first thru-hike?
00:20:30 - What is your favorite thing about route hiking?
00:21:40 - Fuck Marry Kill: Trails, Routes, Consulting
00:22:28 - Do you have suggestions for approachable routes?
00:26:00 - What does the research look like for the first person to hike a route?
00:28:30 - What are common mistakes people make when starting routes?
00:32:10 - Tell us about the Corvallis to Sea Trail
00:37:20 - Discussion about the Three Sisters Trail and the Up North Loop
00:41:38 - If someone wanted to start their own trail, what roles do they need to fill?
00:47:16 - Can you estimate how long it takes to make a trail based on the mileage?
00:49:09 - What is a National Recreation Trail?
00:51:30 - Tell us about your consulting business
00:56:00 - Do you work with both trail organizations and hikers?
00:58:15 - What practical things can organizations recommend to hikers?
01:04:08 - Zach's pitch idea for Renee
01:04:55 - Where can people fill out your survey?
01:05:56 - How do you narrow down your focus?
01:09:00 - Tell us about your logo design work
01:12:00 - Tell us about the dabbling you've done in GIS
01:15:28 - What parting messages do you have for the listeners?
SEGMENTS
Trek Propaganda
Stupid Thing of the Week
Triple Crown of ways you're turning into your parents
Mail Bag (artist mentioned)
5 Star Review
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In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Briana DeSanctis aka Rocky Mountain High. Briana is currently hiking the 6,800 mile American Discovery Trail and upon completing this trail, she will be the first solo woman to ever accomplish this feat. We obviously swan dive deep on everything to do with hiking the ADT, including the specifics of the route, how much of it is on single track vs road, some of the highlight stops along the trail, how she manages resupply and water, what's to love and hate about the trail, and more. Briana is a riot and has no shortage of fun stories from this very wild endeavor. Grab your popcorn, strap in, and enjoy.
We wrap the show with a story about a mom hiking the AT alongside her 15 kids, the triple Crown of people who ought to be on the first rocket to Mars, and we opine if people without inner monologues actually exist.
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Interview with Briana DeSanctis
Time stamps & Questions
00:05:04 - QOTD: Are people without internal monologues more likely to quit thru-hikes?
00:09:07 - Reminders: Check out updates from the PCTA here!
00:10:00 - Introducing Briana
00:11:15 - What got you into the outdoors?
00:13:40 - Where should people visit in Maine?
00:15:30 - Are you a lobster snob?
00:17:30 - Tell us about starting the AT
00:21:00 - Did you feel prepared for the AT?
00:23:07 - How did the hike compare with your expectations?
00:25:01 - What were your best meltdowns on the AT?
00:31:00 - How did you adjust your interactions with strangers after that?
00:31:57 - What are your tips for hitchhiking?
00:35:22 - Give us the highlights of what you did between the AT and ADT
00:41:05 - What are the basic fun facts of the ADT?
00:46:41 - What are the selling points of either the northern or southern routes?
00:50:57 - Discussion about walking through cities
00:54:39 - Tell us about how you navigate the trail
00:56:20 - What drew you to hiking the ADT?
00:59:50 - Will you be the first woman to thru-hike the ADT?
01:02:30 - What kind of carts do people push?
01:04:20 - How many people have hiked the ADT?
01:04:54 - How much of the hike is on road versus single-track?
01:08:19 - Why did you almost die from heat exhaustion?
01:13:02 - What is cell reception like on the ADT?
01:14:09 - Fill us in on your timeline?
01:16:39 - How often do you resupply?
01:18:20 - What keeps you motivated to continue on this trail?
01:20:40 - Are you taking notes or journaling?
01:23:00 - What's a good story that will definitely be included in your book?
01:24:45 - Tell us about shitting your pants
01:32:05 - Zach's AT poop story
01:33:05 - Briana's creative shits
01:40:08 - Discussion about sleeping in bathrooms
01:42:35 - Discussion about planning mileage and places to camp
01:45:04 - Discussion about Briana's interactions with police
01:50:00 - Discussion about people giving Briana things
01:52:22 - If you could pick one chain to eat at for the rest of the trail, what would you pick?
01:54:51 - What one town stands out to you?
02:01:30 - Fuck Marry Kill: the states you've been through thus far
02:05:55 - Fuck Marry Kill: road trails, rail trails, trail trails
02:06:53 - Is there one restaurant experience that stands out to you?
02:12:15 - Discussion about staying with people in towns
02:15:04 - Discussion about the common questions people ask
02:18:14 - What sort of takeaway do you think you'll leave the ADT with?
02:19:24 - How has this experience changed your perspective on our country?
02:25:03 - What's the deal with your flip flops?
02:31:30 - What's your best elevator pitch for the American Discovery Trail?
02:34:05 - Where can people follow you?
SEGMENTS
Trek Propaganda
Triple Crown of people who should be on the first rocket to Mars
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In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Warren Doyle. Warren is a legend. With 18 traverses of the entire Appalachian Trail accounting for more than 38,000 miles, no one on earth has completed the AT more times than Warren. In addition to his vast knowledge and infatuation with this trail, Warren is a fascinating character, with outspoken beliefs on culture, disobedience, and philosophy. Chaunce and I really enjoyed our chat with Warren and we think you will too.
We wrap the show with a triple crown of things that are better than sex, thru-hiking artists you need to know about, and a few of our most nerve-wracking hitchhikes.
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Interview with Warren Doyle
Time stamps & Questions
00:04:25 - QOTD: What is a boring fact about you?
00:08:30 - Reminders: Listen to our Patreon-exclusive Q&A episodes by becoming a supporter!
00:10:17 - Introducing Warren
00:11:22 - What is the full origin story for you and the AT?
00:12:16 - What was the trail like in the 1970s?
00:14:43 - What is your approach to teaching prospective AT hikers?
00:17:20 - What made you return to the AT over and over?
00:20:25 - Discussion about questioning authority
00:22:48 - What are some examples of laws protecting us from the land?
00:24:30 - Discussion about the ferry service
00:31:56 - Are there other stories of trail changes?
00:38:06 - What was the better way to go about that?
00:42:30 - What do you attribute to your group trips' 100% success rates?
00:45:05 - What are the keys for prospective AT hikers?
00:49:17 - What litmus test can people use to know if they're prepared?
00:56:25 - What were some of the advantages and disadvantages of hiking the trail at different ages?
00:58:32 - Was there a particular age where you crossed that threshold?
01:02:03 - Did any injury play into that decision?
01:04:48 - What is one of your favorite stories from one of your trips?
01:09:04 - Is it upsetting to you to see the hikers of today?
01:11:26 - What's the meaning behind the Circle Hikes?
01:14:30 - Walk us through your very first day on trail
01:20:21 - What message do you want to convey to the listeners?
01:21:40 - Where can people learn more about you?
01:22:22 - What do you want your legacy to be?
01:24:48 - What's your strategy when someone wants to quit?
SEGMENTS
Trek Propaganda
Stupid Thing of the Week
Triple Crown of things that are better than sex
Mail Bag
5 Star Review
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A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jake Landgraf, Jeanne Latshaw, Jeff LaFranier, Joann Menzer, Keith Dobie Jr, Kelly Heikkila, and Peter.
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Sawyer Products, we are bringing you a certified smorgasbord of backpacking goodness. We kick off the show with a somewhat impromptu interview with Instagram and YouTube sensation, Little Skittle. We learn about the last leg of her triple crown, how she embraced the brutality of the CDT, and of course the requisite fuck, marry, kill of the triple crown trails. We then catch up with Travis Avery of Sawyer Products to geek out on all things related to insect repellants, water filter technology, and how a Chicago Bears running back played a crucial role in Sawyer's early success.
We wrap the show with a series of AT Hiker submissions for "Stupid Thing of the Week", with a very natural slant toward shit stories guaranteed to entertain. As if that weren't enough, Chaunce and I give a rundown on our favorite moments from Trail Days, what adventure plans we have on the docket for this summer, and the typical chaos.
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Interview with Little Skittle
Interview with Travis Avery
Time stamps & Questions
00:05:02 - QOTD: What summer hiking/backpacking/adventuring plans do you have?
00:12:48 - Reminders: Listen to exclusive Q&A episodes on Patreon!
00:15:08 - Introducing Little Skittle
00:17:33 - How's it feel to be in the middle of your Triple Crown?
00:17:55 - How is the AT after completing the PCT and CDT already?
00:19:34 - How have you enjoyed the AT culture?
00:22:00 - Have you gotten backlash for your pace?
00:23:15 - What sketchy moments stand out from the CDT?
00:25:37 - Do you have any standout scary animal stories?
00:30:00 - Fuck Marry Kill: AT, PCT, CDT
00:31:20 - Little Skittle's Stupid Thing of the Week
00:35:45 - What's luxurious about your quilt?
00:37:03 - What has been your favorite thing about your AT experience so far?
00:38:10 - What's been the most epic trail magic you received?
00:39:20 - What do you hope for at trail magic and what don't you want?
00:40:35 - What's after the Triple Crown?
00:43:13 - Introducing Travis Avery
00:46:02 - Tell us about the company history of Sawyer Products
00:47:28 - What is an extractor?
00:49:58 - How exactly does permethrin work?
00:51:47 - Can dogs get Lyme?
00:54:11 - If you were hiking the AT, how often would you apply permethrin?
00:58:50 - Can you spray permethrin on your underwear?
01:00:10 - Does permethrin present any risk when directly touching human skin?
01:01:10 - Do you have any tips and tricks for applying permethrin?
01:02:32 - What else is effective against ticks?
01:04:41 - Does picaridin help protect against flies?
01:05:41 - Describe the difference between DEET and picaridin against mosquitoes
01:08:00 - Are you uneasy using DEET?
01:08:56 - Discussion about mosquitos preferring different blood types
01:10:15 - Discussion about using permethrin around cats
01:11:55 - What are some other non obvious suggestions for using permethrin?
01:13:17 - Can you lock in the treatment using a hotel hair dryer?
01:14:14 - How do you know if your Sawyer Squeeze is broken?
01:16:10 - When did the Sawyer Squeeze come out?
01:16:50 - Tell us about the decision to make the filter compatible with standard water bottles
01:20:27 - Give us the elevator pitch on what makes the Squeeze superior to the competition
01:23:14 - Fuck Marry Kill: Lyme Disease, Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, Alpha-gal Syndrome
SEGMENTS
Stupid Thing of the Week: AT Thru-Hiker Edition
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In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Sawyer Products, we are joined once again by Darwin Rakestraw, of Darwin on the Trail YouTube fame. We catch up on the past year of Darwin's adventures, including learning all about his new gear company, Evolved Supply Co., the inspiration for how he builds products, which products he chooses, what offerings might be in the pipeline, and more. We also learn about a brand new documentary featuring Brew and Jennifer Pharr Davis and their kiddos, which chronicles Sawyer's initiative to bring clean water to the non-resort portions of Fiji. We wrap the chat with a preview of the forthcoming chapter in Darwin's thriving media career, one all fans of adventure should be excited to learn more about.
We wrap the show with a triple crown of "you might be a new hiker if...", an overview of a new inclusive product line from REI, and quite possibly the most off the rails ad read of all time at the end of the episode.
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Interview with Darwin
Time stamps & Questions
00:05:20 - QOTD: If you could redo your bachelor party, where would you have it?
00:13:06 - Reminders: Support us on Patreon!
00:16:14 - Introducing Darwin
00:18:33 - Fill us in on what you've been up to for the past year!
00:21:08 - Tell us about your gear company
00:23:12 - What about your gear separates you from the other products available?
00:28:20 - Walk us through your backpack design
00:32:04 - What have you learned about gear that you didn't know while hiking?
00:36:12 - Are there concerns about people trying to steal your business information?
00:39:57 - Tell us more about your sun hoodie
00:46:00 - Give us the full rundown on your project with Jennifer Pharr Davis
00:53:30 - Discussion about Sawyer's philanthropy work
00:55:50 - What is your role in the project?
00:58:10 - What is Jenn and her family's role in the project?
01:01:05 - Do Fijians know it's Sawyer providing the filter?
01:04:45 - Where can people watch the film?
01:10:35 - How do you manage your busy schedule?
01:12:40 - Fuck Marry Kill: Thru-hiking, your media company, and your gear company
01:14:38 - What else are you up to that you want people to know about?
01:19:30 - Discussion about Darwin's travels to Nepal
01:20:52 - Are you going to start adding more travel content to your Youtube?
01:25:40 - Thank you!
SEGMENTS
Trek Propaganda
Stupid Thing of the Week
Triple Crown of you might be a new hiker if…
Leave No Trace Ne-ne-nes
Listener Voicemail (and leave us your own!)
5 Star Review
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A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jake Landgraf, Jeanne Latshaw, Jeff LaFranier, Joann Menzer, Keith Dobie Jr, Kelly Heikkila, and Peter.
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Anna McKinney. Anna is an AT thru-hiker (where she met her fiancé), a hiking guide in the Smokies, a Trek Writer, and an all around giver of good vibes. We get the full scoop on how her budding trail romance evolved to impending wedding bells- and Chaunce gives us a detailed breakdown on the stages of love on trail, we learn about some of the more interesting flora and fauna in the Smokies, battling imposter syndrome, and her recent LASH on the Arizona Trail.
We wrap the show with me getting angry about spiders and octopi, a triple crown of things serious thru-hikers don't compromise on, and also other stuff!
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Interview with Anna McKinney
Time stamps & Questions
00:06:07 - QOTD: Excluding water, what's the difference between spiders and octopus?
00:08:40 - Reminders: Suggest a guest! Fill out our listener survey by June 15!
00:09:35 - Introducing Anna
00:10:35 - What's your trail name and origin story?
00:12:53 - Do you have any standout trail magic stories?
00:15:06 - What got you into the outdoors?
00:16:30 - What was your big girl job?
00:17:30 - What was it like going through your own backyard on the AT for the first time?
00:20:20 - How steep was your backpacking learning curve?
00:22:23 - Discussion about losing people on the trail
00:24:29 - Did a zero degree bag with a liner prove to be excessive?
00:26:11 - What was your process of working your pack weight down?
00:29:00 - What's your base weight nowadays?
00:32:35 - We love love - tell us about meeting your fiance on the AT!
00:36:45 - When you're into someone, how do you let them know without creeping you out?
00:39:27 - When did the physical aspect come into play?
00:41:27 - How did he ask you to be his girlfriend?
00:44:08 - What was finishing the trail like for your relationship?
00:45:50 - Did you ever feel like the relationship was in jeopardy after the trail?
00:47:09 - What did you learn about him off-trail that you didn't learn on-trail?
00:49:19 - Ask your on-trail romance these questions!
00:52:43 - What are the stages of a trail relationship?
00:54:07 - Chaunce's stages of a trail relationship
00:59:22 - Tell us about working with Blue Ridge Hiking Company
01:01:53 - Tell us about caretaking the AT bunkhouse in Hot Springs
01:04:05 - What was the vibe when it's not only thru-hikers but some thru-hikers?
01:05:31 - Tell us about your experience with imposter syndrome
01:08:38 - Tell us about underrated sections of the AT
01:12:50 - What is it like to guide in the Smokies?
01:15:55 - Discussion about interacting with thru-hikers within the National Park on guiding trips
01:19:14 - What are some fun facts about the Smokies flora and fauna?
01:23:21 - What are some trail highlights in the Smokies that aren't on the AT?
01:25:57 - Tell us your engagement story!
01:29:13 - Where did you get your rings made?
01:31:32 - Tell us about the Arizona Trail!
01:35:22 - Discussion about the snow on the AZT
01:38:00 - Did you know at the beginning things could change due to the snow?
01:39:19 - Tell us about how your travel plans changed
01:41:01 - Which day of your National Parks trip would you revisit?
01:42:11 - What differences did you notice hiking with a partner between the AT and AZT?
01:44:45 - Did you get in any major fights?
01:46:54 - Have you lost any fights?
01:49:44 - Where can people go to follow you?
01:51:45 - What's next?
SEGMENTS
Trek Propaganda
Triple Crown of things serious thru-hikers don't compromise on
Pupdate
Twin Update
Mail Bag
5 Star Review
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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.
A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Brent Stenberg, Cameron Brown, Christopher Marshburn, Dayne, Greg McDaniel, Matt Soukup, Mike Poisel, Morgan Luke, Patrick Cianciolo, Sawyer Products, Timothy Hahn, and Tracy "Trigger" Fawns.
A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Dcnerdlet, Jake Landgraf, Jeanne Latshaw, Jeff LaFranier, Joann Menzer, Keith Dobie Jr, Kelly Heikkila, Liz Seger, and Peter.
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Rue McKenrick. Rue is an accomplished long-distance hiker and the Executive Director of the American Perimeter Trail Conference, an ambitious project to create a 14,000 mile loop that circumnavigates the continental U.S. We learn all about Rue's scouting of this trail- as he's hiked 12,000 miles of the route in search of the best course already, his inspiration for this project, the challenges he anticipates in completing this, the role partnering with other trail organizations will play, and more.
We wrap the show with Chaunce's very stupid thing of the week, additional details of our attendance at Trail Days, and the hikers we would most like to eliminate from the trail.
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Interview with Rue McKenrick
Time stamps & Questions
00:05:15 - QOTD: If you could eliminate hikers from the trail, who would they be?
00:12:36 - Reminders: We're going to Trail Days! Come visit us on Saturday (you might see Elise there too)! Guest Recommendation form, bonus points if you're local.
00:15:35 - Introducing Rue McKenrick
00:16:15 - Tell us about growing up near the AT
00:17:28 - When did you realize you wanted to make backpacking a focus in your life?
00:19:16 - How have hikers changed over the years?
00:29:35 - What hikes have you completed?
00:34:36 - What attributed to the lack of enthusiasm? And what brought you back?
00:37:50 - What were your roles with the non-profit organizations and how did it lead to creating your own trail?
00:40:52 - Any insider stories you have from working with AMC or ATC?
00:48:51 - Give us the fast facts on the American Perimeter Trail
01:01:00 - Could you go through the flow of the American Perimeter Trail map?
01:14:30 - What is the undertaking of this project?
01:24:14 - How do you legally secure corridors for the American Perimeter Trail?
01:30:00 - Have you encountered anyone that has interest in thru-hiking the trail?
01:33:03 - Wrap up
SEGMENTS
Trek Propaganda
Stupid Thing of the Week
Mail Bag
5 Star Review
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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.
A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Brent Stenberg, Cameron Brown, Christopher Marshburn, Dayne, Greg McDaniel, Matt Soukup, Mike Poisel, Morgan Luke, Patrick Cianciolo, Sawyer Products, Timothy Hahn, and Tracy "Trigger" Fawns.
A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Dcnerdlet, Jake Landgraf, Jeanne Latshaw, Jeff LaFranier, Joann Menzer, Keith Dobie Jr, Kelly Heikkila, Liz Seger, and Peter.
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Dr. Brian Fallon and Noah Johnston of Project Lyme to discuss all things deer ticks and Lyme disease. We dive into just about everything one would want to know including Lyme disease prevalence, prevention strategies, treatment for Lyme and chronic Lyme, the latest in medical advancements including prospects for future vaccines, where Lyme is most problematic geographically, how to manage your pet on trail, and much more.
We wrap the show with a Backpacker Radio update regarding a certain AT festival, the triple crown of animals you'd let murder you, some news for PCT and JMT hikers, and also Zach had twins.
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Interview with Dr. Brian Fallon and Noah Johnston
Time stamps & Questions
00:05:22 - QOTD: Have you heard of soft hiking?
00:07:56 - Reminders: We're going to Trail Days (author page link here)! Take our Listener Survey!
00:15:25 - Introducing Dr. Brian Fallon and Noah Johnston
00:16:34 - Can you explain the basics of Lyme disease as if we're in fifth grade?
00:19:37 - Does everyone get some form of a rash when infected?
00:20:20 - What are the most common regions of the body for tick bites?
00:20:56 - What's the timeframe between a tick climbing onto you and biting you?
00:22:24 - How do you know that a tick hasn't already bit you?
00:23:50 - What's the prevalence of that particular virus?
00:24:20 - Discussion about the timeline of Lyme infection
00:26:20 - Are there ever instances when someone's immune system fights off the infection?
00:28:00 - Tell us more about chronic Lyme disease
00:32:42 - Is a vaccine for Lyme disease on the horizon?
00:34:14 - What was the reaction to the previous vaccine?
00:36:52 - In what regions of the country should people be the most vigilant about Lyme?
00:39:53 - What would your recommendation be for someone struggling with chronic Lyme?
00:41:04 - Is there a particular set of medications or supplements that help these people?
00:45:45 - Would it make sense to include antibiotics in your first aid kit as a thru-hiker?
00:48:44 - Can someone get Lyme disease more than once?
00:49:32 - How do you differentiate between chronic Lyme disease and post-treatment Lyme disease syndrome?
00:50:25 - What's up with the red meat thing?
00:53:15 - Are there any other medical advances that you see coming related to Lyme?
00:59:00 - What's the best estimate of the prevalence of Lyme disease?
01:01:44 - What eats ticks?
01:03:25 - Discussion about a vaccine to prevent tick attachment
01:04:39 - What about the vaccine makes the tick unable to attach?
01:05:32 - What other methods of prevention would you recommend?
01:09:45 - Can animals get Lyme?
01:11:39 - Discussion about the Lyme disease vaccine for dogs
01:11:56 - If dogs can get Lyme disease, don't bears all have Lyme disease?
01:16:35 - Is there any risk in eating venison that's been infected with Lyme disease?
01:19:22 - How intelligent are ticks?
01:21:52 - Where do ticks hibernate?
01:23:45 - What happens when a tick comes in contact with permethrin?
01:26:00 - Do you know the efficacy of oil of lemon?
01:27:24 - What role does hair play in terms of the likelihood of tick attachment?
01:29:20 - Discussion about tick prevention while camping
01:31:19 - Are ticks active at night?
01:34:00 - Project Lyme resources
01:36:27 - What type of outlook is there for someone with chronic Lyme?
01:42:54 - Tell us more about your background and how you came to be at Project Lyme
01:49:04 - Where should people go to get more information?
SEGMENTS
Trek Propaganda
Stupid Thing of the Week
Triple Crown of animals you'd let murder you
Mail Bag
5 Star Review
[divider]
Check out our sound guy @paulyboyshallcross.
Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play.
Support us on Patreon to get bonus content.Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram.
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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.
A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Brent Stenberg, Cameron Brown, Christopher Marshburn, Dayne, DoGoodPantry, Greg McDaniel, Kristina Diaz, Matt Soukup, Mike Poisel, Morgan Luke, Patrick Cianciolo, Sawyer Products, Timothy Hahn, and Tracy "Trigger" Fawns.
A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Dcnerdlet, Jacob Northrup, Jeff LaFranier, Keith Dobie Jr, Liz Seger, and Peter.
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