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Back On The Grind

A podcast exploring life, music, people & the stories that bring us closer.

Episodes are published on the 1st & 15th every month.

With intimate interviews, folk punk & my own personal experiences, I explore how we can show up for the story of life. There’s no reason to do this alone, we can learn from each other, even if we make some mistakes along the way. Join me as I embark on a journey to figure out how to find meaning & balance, navigate relationships & culture, all while growing with you. We can survive our failures, learn from them & celebrate the victories we also achieve when we put in the work.

I have a strong connection to the folk punk & DIY, underground music community in general, so expect to hear about that too. Some other common themes on the show are, creativity, prison, addiction/recovery, spirituality, personal authority & relationships. I hope to become a valuable part of your life through my efforts here at Back On The Grind as I bring you closer to myself & the guests I converse with.

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Latest Episodes:

Love As Resistance Behind Bars w/ Eric King #44 Feb 15, 2025

Show notes

In this conversation, former political prisoner Eric King shares his experience of incarceration & the profound impact of relationships during his time in prison. He discusses the journey that led him to federal prison, the challenges of maintaining connections with loved ones, & the unique bond he formed with his wife, Rochelle. He highlights the importance of emotional support & understanding in navigating the complexities of love behind bars. Eric emphasizes the need for vulnerability & the significance of being valued as a person, despite the dehumanizing nature of the prison system. The conversation also touches on the societal perceptions of relationships with incarcerated individuals. Eric discusses the fleeting moments of joy that allowed him to escape the harsh realities of incarceration & the transformative power of love that helped him navigate his difficult journey. He reflects on the emotional complexities of his release day, the struggles of adjusting to life outside prison, & the importance of community support. Eric emphasizes the significance of finding joy & maintaining a smile as acts of resistance against the trauma of his past, while also highlighting the impact of art & connection in the healing process...particularly through seeing Myles Bullen perform live.

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HIGHLIGHTS:

What led Eric into prison
Prison relationships often face skepticism from the outside world
Emotional vulnerability is essential for maintaining connections
Visits from loved ones can be emotionally taxing & scrutinized
Women often bear the emotional burden of supporting incarcerated partners
Exploring how love can transform one's experience in prison
The complexities and challenges of getting married in prison
Moments of joy can provide relief from the harsh realities of incarceration
The emotional turmoil leading up to release day.
Navigating the challenges of the halfway house experience
Finding joy & resistance in the aftermath of incarceration
The power of a smile as an act of defiance against trauma
Thoughts on Myles Bullen & the importance of community & art in the healing process

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Recalling The Early Pat The Bunny / Johnny Hobo Days (part 3) w/ Brook Pridemore #43 Feb 01, 2025

Show notes

For the final installment of our Johnny Hobo Q&A, Brook Pridemore joins Pepe to offer some more perspectives on the questions listeners sent in. They also discuss some of the general happenings of the folk punk scene from the mid to late 2000's. Enjoy! (There will be some additional Pat The Bunny questions answered by Pepe on our Patreon feed)

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HIGHLIGHTS:

Brook's first show with Johnny Hobo/Pat The Bunny
What was the average Johnny hobo show like at the time? Was it a solid consistent line up or mostly pat showing up with a guitar?
What was the farthest pat toured during that period?
Some differences between the Pan-It-X crew & the DIY Bandits crew
The role of "place" & how it influences music & scenes
How much did the Johnny Hobo songs actually reflect Pat's real life at the time & how much was just him singing in character?
Were things like hitchhiking & riding freight trains stuff Pat actually did?
Thoughts on the tinder Box in Brattleboro VT.
Brook taking people to Harmony Parking Lot
How do you all feel about being so popular with train hoppers & homeless kids, particularly those who take inspiration from Pat's early nihilistic, self-destructive lyrics to be nihilistic and self-destructive themselves?
Does an artist have a responsibility to their listeners. Eg glorifying drugs, suicide, violence, crime etc or is the first responsibility to the art itself?
How do you feel about fans putting people like Pat & Benjamin Tod on pedestals? Seemingly holding them solely responsible for their recoveries?
"These days folk-punk is suffering because the artists aren't". It seems like the music was better when the people involved were "worse". Can you speak to that idea?
Can I become rich & pay off my student loans with my old CDs. Asking for a friend :) + What’s that most yall have seen these albums go for?
Did he ever give a reason for the disbanding of Johnny Hobo? If so what was it?

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Listen to Johnny Hobo & The Freight Trains music

open.spotify.com/artist/7Mv8pqnyBgJGpNTRwbi7kl?si=my2hVoEARMiILPtdwUQyjg

Listen to part 1 of this series

Spotify open.spotify.com/episode/0eLXoYgmbVI3XiBCZcRrvo?si=aac159d382414ccb
Apple podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/back-on-the-grind/id1681556943?i=1000680412865

Listen to part 2 of this series

Spotify open.spotify.com/episode/5IzB3AHtsMhsGp75bacHxY?si=b8e3cc3f85ec4f24
Apple podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/back-on-the-grind/id1681556943?i=1000684064945

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Friends In Real Life discussed by April (Apes Of The State) & Ceschi (Codefendants) Bonus Episode!!! Jan 20, 2025

Show notes

Wondering what the upcoming Friends In Real Life album will be like? Well, here's a sneak peek...

The day after Pat (fka Pat The Bunny) announced he will be releasing music for the first time in 10 years, Pepe decided to chat with friends April Hartman of Apes Of The State & Julio "Ceschi" Ramos of Codefendants about the new album. Expect to hear what Pat's return means to them & the scene overall, April's top 3 picks from the album, Ceschi's break down about how the song (& upcoming video) "Surf Rock Anthem" came to be & much more. This one got emotional...

REMEMBER THERE IS STILL HOPE LEFT IN THIS WORLD

A longer version of this interview is available through our Patreon

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Listen to Friends In Real life

open.spotify.com/artist/6k9PWB6N0siXTYtRn6hV6s?si=KTNJHKAOTHSmnPDx49KqRw

Listen to Ceschi & Codefendants

Codefendants - open.spotify.com/artist/6HBfXt98QpP7QVDPLHjHTe?si=d4BAH4nYQSm0oyALZotM9w
Ceschi - open.spotify.com/artist/78t5ObID5m0cLVrpZernKV?si=2l6QbrF5SOaTPpC6KBV5qA

Listen to Apes Of the State

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Recalling The Early Pat The Bunny / Johnny Hobo Days (part 2) w/ Pepe Bandit #42 Jan 15, 2025

Show notes

***Please take the poll in the Spotify show notes & tell us what Johnny Hobo music we should repress on vinyl***

Pepe answers questions you all sent in, largely about Pat The Bunny during the Johnny Hobo days while also reflecting on his own journey through the folk punk scene. He shares personal stories of struggle, inspiration, & the DIY ethos that defined the era. Pepe emphasizes the importance of following one's dreams, even in the face of adversity, & the organic development of the folk punk scene without the constraints of commercial expectations. He discusses lost & unreleased music & the potential for future represses. He touches on the importance of community and personal growth, while also addressing the disbanding of Johnny Hobo and the choices that led to it & much more. Enjoy!

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HIGHLIGHTS

Reading from an old letter Pat wrote
What Pat said about remembering the early days
Was Love Songs For The Apocalypse really recorded on a phone?
Did you have a contract when you released music by Johnny Hobo & the Freight Trains?
A question from John Warmb of the band Rent Strike
What's the most you've seen this music sell for?
Represses ever?
Why & how the hell did Pat go to Australia?
Any interesting stories with Pat & the authorities?
How do you feel reflecting on yourselves back then compared to now?
What is the lasting impact Pat's music had on your life personally?
Did Pat give a reason for disbanding Johnny Hobo & The Freight Trains
Do you relate to the person you were back then?
Pepe's children recall being young kids & experiencing the early Johnny Hobo/folk punk days

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Listen to Johnny Hobo & The Freight Trains

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Back On The Grind Records - For DIY, Folk Punk, Rap & Merch:

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Matt Pless on Creativity & Living Between Worlds #41 Jan 01, 2025

Show notes

Matt Pless & Pepe explore many engaging topics. Expect to hear about music & creativity from the time of early humans to the age of social media. Matt shares his extensive journey through the music scene & his time hanging out with Pat The bunny. The discussion also touches on the challenges of navigating between different musical worlds & environments & the impact it has. Matt & Pepe delve into personal experiences of betrayal & rebuilding trust, particularly in the context of addiction. The conversation concludes with insights into Matt's upcoming projects & we play a track of his.

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HIGHLIGHTS:

Hitting the road coast to coast
What helped Matt spread his music around the country
Folk punk french toast tips
Why small towns can have the best shows
Childhood interest in The Monkees
How Matt was perceived as a kid in school
What it's like to live between worlds in prison & music
The songwriting process for Matt involves a mix of chaos & order
Creativity in prison
Does an artist have a responsibility to the listener first or the art first?
Audience capture, social media & monetized art
Birds & their connection to the origins of music
Music was more impactful & felt differently for pre-civilized peoples
Pepe connects Dante's Inferno, Pat The Bunny & betrayal
Matt's views on addiction & betrayal with his brother
Trimming weed
Upcoming projects
"Comin' through the Rye" played

Connect w/ Matt Pless:

instagram.com/mattplessmusic/
open.spotify.com/artist/3yQ3jD3d0ytK5DdnsiM2e5?si=RlSXrc81Seq4rFl5D9__gQ

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Recalling The Early Pat The Bunny / Johnny Hobo Days (part 1) w/ Dani Chaoflux & Mark Leonard #40 Dec 15, 2024

Show notes

In this informative episode, Pepe takes us on a journey to revisit the early days of folk punk with a focus on Pat the Bunny (Johnny Hobo) & the DIY Bandits label that released much of his music. He enlists the support of longtime friends Dani ChaoFlux & Mark Leonard who also spent time with Pat during those days. Together they explore a fascinating origin story that sparked a local community that eventually helped ignite a country wide scene. This is part 1...stay tuned for parts 2 & 3!

Support the podcast to get bonus episodes + goods

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HIGHLIGHTS:

"What were you thinking?" during the early Bandit days
Creating the Love Songs For The Apocalypse layout
What was a typical day like at Bandits HQ back then?
What happened to the DIY Bandits website?
Who were the DIY Bandits?
Remembering the first Johnny Hobo shows
Escaping security story
Favorite memory about Pat The Bunny
Did the Johnny Hobo music actually reflect who Pat was?
What was the scene like?
Would you do it all again if you knew how it ended up going?
We didn't use the term "folk punk" in the early days
Folk punk bands then & now
Touring with Johnny Hobo & the Freight Trains
What was the folk punk scene like in CT. in the early-mid 2000's?
What was the difference between the early shows and current day shows?
We like ska!
Reflecting on Pat The Bunny during the Johnny Hobo era
Some Thoughts on the podcast

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COFFEE BREAK - Homeless Gospel Choir on The Song Writing Process Dec 01, 2024

Show notes

Todays COFFEE BREAK features The Homeless Gospel Choir discussing the song writing process & touring.

Listen to the full interview here:

Spotify open.spotify.com/episode/6a0xC8MZqfVjEzwAnOAtGN?si=c0dad602914d42b8

Apple podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/homeless-gospel-choir-a-hopeful-conversation-around/id1681556943?i=1000618989421

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We Are All Haunted By What Resides In The Shadows (part 2) w/ Pepe Bandit #39 Nov 15, 2024

Show notes

In part two of this shadow work series, Pepe explores examples & thoughts about the shadow through Apes Of The State, Rent Strike, Carl Jung & his own personal journey in prison & more. Expect to learn what you can gain from doing shadow work yourself & some practical action steps to help you begin the process as well as a couple book recommendations to start with. No longer let the ghosts of your past rule your life in the present.

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Listen to part 1 here:

Spotify open.spotify.com/episode/2e8o5zHHCWDNcU65yWQ4Mo?si=318ea54398634f6b

Apple podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/we-are-all-haunted-by-what-resides-in-the-shadows/id1681556943?i=1000673130662

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RENT STRIKE - Words Are Spells, Concept Albums & Planning Our Escape #38 Nov 01, 2024

Show notes

John Warmb of the band Rent Strike returns to the show & talks to Pepe about recording their latest album Möbius Strip Mall & why they often makes concept albums. A large portion of the conversation focuses on the power of words & the magic that flows through & out of them. Together, Pepe & John explore some practical of examples of how we cast a spell with the words we speak & how that can affect the very fabric of reality for better or for worse.

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HIGHLIGHTS:

Thoughts on concept albums
The story of the Möbius Strip Mall
Advertising is like sorcery
Laurel Airica word alchemy
Words as spells
A snitch spoke magic words that led Pepe to prison
The liberating value of using or not using certain words
Language & perception
Dr. Emoto water experiment
Does John have any new beliefs since recording the latest album
Covid, collapse & the time for liberating acts
Exploring our escape plans through music

Connect w/ Rent Strike:

instagram.com/rent__strike/
rentstrikenow.com/

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We Are All Haunted By What Resides In The Shadows (part 1) w/ Pepe Bandit #37 Oct 15, 2024

Show notes

In this episode of Back on the Grind, Pepe Bandit discusses the transformative power of the shadow. Drawing from his background in life coaching, cognitive behavioral therapy, trauma recovery & more, he aims to help others understand the shadow correctly. He discusses the differences between repression & suppression & how shadow material can accumulate over time & unconsciously influence our behavior & relationships.

Pepe delves into the concept of exploring the parts of ourselves that we often deny or refuse to acknowledge. He shares his own journey & personal anecdotes to illustrate how these shadow aspects actually manifest in our thoughts & behaviors, highlighting the duality of human nature—our capacity for both compassion & cruelty. The episode emphasizes the importance of self-awareness & acceptance of all facets of our identity for personal growth & healthier interactions with others. The episode also touches on the relevance of these themes in the context of Halloween, a time traditionally associated with hauntings & the unseen.

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HIGHLIGHTS

We all have hauntings that we can never fully escape
Your shadow contains unwanted or “unhelpful” parts of ourselves we deny
The shadow is not inherently evil; it's part of us
Shadow material often stems from childhood experiences
Repression vs. suppression
How shadow material can manifest unconsciously in our lives
Shadow work requires confronting uncomfortable truths about ourselves
Engaging in shadow work is essential for personal and societal growth
"Demon Song" by PT Burnem is played

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