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    As The Money Burns

    All they want is love. Everyone else wants their fortune. Based on historical research, As The Money Burns is a deep exploration into the lives of actual heirs and heiresses to some of America’s most famous fortunes and what happens when the Great Depression hits. A narrative podcast that explores history, psychology, and finance.

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    Big Dame Hunters - 1 Year Anniversary Special Apr 03, 2021
    Show notes

    All they want is love. Everyone else wants their fortune.

    Male fortune hunters will pursue young heiresses even more aggressively after the Wall Street Crash of 1929 and the Great Depression. This is a special episode commemorating the 1 year anniversary of As The Money Burns podcast. There will be some recapping past storylines and teasing future ones.

    Other people and subjects include: Doris Duke, Barbara Hutton, big game hunters, Bridgerton, The Crown, and Downton Abbey.

    Extra Notes / Call to Action:
    Mark Bowden from YouTube’s Behavioral Panel had a great remark – Money can often get you a better standard of misery. At 46:10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYyEx20DiKU

    Past Perfect Vintage Music, www.pastperfect.com

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    Archival Music provided by Past Perfect Vintage Music, www.pastperfect.com.
    Opening Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands
    Section 1 Music: These Foolish Things by Benny Carter, Album Perfect Blues
    Section 2 Music: Fascinating Rhythm by The Savoy Orpheans, Album Fascinating Rhythm – Great Hits of the 20s
    Section 3 Music: I Guess I Will Have To Change My Plan by Ambrose & His Orchestra, Album The Great British Dance Bands
    End Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands


    Prodigal Sons Apr 01, 2021
    Show notes

    As family fortunes are lost, wayward sons learn they might need to make some adjustments in their lifestyles. That is unless they can find the right young heiress to marry.

    Two male heirs and recently divorced Walker Inman and Jimmy Cromwell return to their mothers Nanaline Duke and Eva Stotesbury for pampering before they re-enter the dating market. Walker twice won his Reno divorce from his showgirl ex-wife, whom Nanaline pays off to stop the ongoing scandalous press. Jimmy considers entering a career in politics if his stepfather Ned Stotesbury will fund the venture.

    Other people and subjects include: Doris Duke, con artist Dapper Dan Collins, Ned Stotesbury, Evalyn Walsh McLean, Reno divorce, Whitemarsh Hall, Dodge fortune, Anna Dodge, Delphine Dodge, Christine Cromwell, Louise Cromwell, General Douglas MacArthur, Ziegfeld Follies, Great Gatsby, British royals, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Al Smith, Buck Duke, Nanaline Holt Inman Duke families, Count Victor Lustig, and second sons or lesser heir in dysfunctional family dynamics.

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    Archival Music provided by Past Perfect Vintage Music, www.pastperfect.com.
    Opening Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands
    Section 1 Music: Organ Grinder’s Song by Jack Payne, Album The Great British Dance Bands
    Section 2 Music: On The Air by Carroll Gibbons, Albums More Sophistication & Tea Dance 2
    Section 3 Music: Turkish Towel by The Savoy Havana Band, Album Fascinating Rhythm
    End Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands


    Contagion Mar 18, 2021
    Show notes

    The Crash has come, and the doom it brings will consume many. As the holidays approach, many wrestle with their new circumstances. For some, their despair will become far too much.

    When banker J.J. Riordan commits suicide, those around him work to protect the bank from a run by depositors. A large crowd gathers for the funeral to see which famous people attend. Others try to determine their own financial futures.

    Other people and subjects include: Vincent Astor, Cobina Wright, Bill Wright, Franklyn Delano Roosevelt, NY Governor Al Smith, Ned Stotesbury, Nanaline Duke, butler Fred, suicides, embezzlements, bank robberies, bank runs, Robert Benchley, Jesse Livermore, Empire State Building, FOBI (fear of being included), and Oprah Winfrey interview with Meghan Markle & Prince Harry, and concerns of suicides during pandemic.

    Extra Notes / More suicide related information:
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/slightly-blighty/202103/reporting-suicidal-ideation-why-piers-morgan-was-wrong
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/why-bad-looks-good/202008/why-suicides-may-increase-post-pandemic
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/why-bad-looks-good/202008/3-reasons-living-cited-suicide-survivors
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-mind-body-connection/202009/the-myths-and-warning-signs-suicide
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppSAlO9pmPA
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/patient-zero/202008/you-can-prevent-suicide-in-someone-close-you

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    Archival music provided by Past Perfect Vintage Music, www.pastperfect.com.
    Opening Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands
    Section 1 Music: A Foggy Day by Carroll Gibbons, Album Sophistication 3
    Section 2 Music: Lost In A Fog by Coleman Hawkins & His Orchestra, Album Nightfall – Sophisticated Jazz Classics
    Section 3 Music: These Foolish Things by Benny Carter, Album Perfect Blues
    End Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands


    Unlucky Stars Mar 04, 2021
    Show notes

    Their fates have changed, but somethings will always remain the same. Every year birthdays come and go. Will our heiresses celebrate and make a wish for a better tomorrow?

    Away at their boarding schools, Barbara Hutton and Doris Duke are ignored and forgotten on their birthdays. Eventually, Barbara celebrates with her loyal servants, while Doris gets a visit with her brother Walker Inman. Meanwhile both girls are unaware that several classmates won’t be returning after the holidays.

    Other people and subjects include: November 1929, Fermata, Prince Alexis Mdivani, governess Ticki, famous births of rich heirs and heiresses, Jakey Astor, Evalyn Walsh McLean, William Randolph Hearst, Louise Van Alen, complication of sorting out historical dates, zodiac & astrology, horoscope, Catherine de Medici & Nostradamus, birthday song copyright, and the desire to predict the future during unstable times.

    Extra Notes / Call to Action:
    The Eff Your Fears podcast by Ashley Menard https://www.effyourfears.com/

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    Archival Music provided by Past Perfect Vintage Music, www.pastperfect.com.
    Opening Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands
    Section 1 Music: Sweet Sixteen And Never Been Kissed by Blue Mountaineers, Albums The Great Dance Bands & Play Hits of the 30s
    Section 2 Music: You Started Something by Billy Ternent & Sam Browne, Album Elegance 2
    Section 3 Music: The Very Thought of You by Al Bowlly, Album More Sophistication
    End Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands


    The Last Party Feb 18, 2021
    Show notes

    As the long perfect Indian summer ends, there is one final party to attend. Only the Wall Street Crash takes out more than stocks, and all that is known will soon be questioned.

    Supreme hostess and opera singer Cobina Wright throws another fabulous party all the while wondering who among her guests have lost their fortunes in the Crash all the while trying to keep her own secret.

    Other people and subjects include: Bill Wright, Lil Cobina Wright Jr, Eve Curie, Prince Serge Obolensky, Ava Alice Astor, Doris Duke, Walter Damrosch, reversals of fortune, boom to bust, Waldorf-Astoria two hotels, Doris Duke, Barbara Hutton, Jakey Astor, Vincent Astor, Louise Van Alen, Huntington Hartford, Jimmy Cromwell, Alice Vanderbilt, butlers Bruce & Fred, money problems both too much & losses, and GameStop stock trades.

    Extra Notes / Call to Action:
    The Eff Your Fears podcast by Ashley Menard https://www.effyourfears.com/
    New York Adventure Club webinars www.nyadventureclub.com

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    Archival Music provided by Past Perfect Vintage Music, www.pastperfect.com.
    Opening Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands
    Section 1 Music: Top Hat, White Tie and Tails by Carroll Gibbons & Boy Friends, Album Sophistication – Songs of the Thirties
    Section 2 Music: Nightfall by Benny Carter & His Orchestra, Album Nightfall – Sophisticated Jazz Classics
    Section 3 Music: These Foolish Things by Benny Carter, Album Perfect Blues
    End Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands


    Lessons Not Learned Feb 04, 2021
    Show notes

    The summer is over, and for our young heirs and heiresses that means returning to school. Money doesn’t guarantee popularity, especially when even the wealthy resent the wealthier.

    Doris Duke, Barbara Hutton, Huntington Hartford, and Jakey Astor all return to their individual private and boarding schools. Isolated and alone, the heirs and heiresses must contend with their disapproving classmates. Frank Shields plans to transfer to a Connecticut private school near Barbara, and Louise Van Alen preps for her ongoing debutante activities.

    Other people and subjects include: Brearley, St. Paul’s in Concord NH, Miss Porter’s in Farmington CT, Roxbury School, Cheshire Academy, St. Georges in Newport, elite education, private school, old money vs. new money, famous alumni, and a summer school experience in Rhode Island.

    Extra Notes / Call to Action:
    Upcoming New York Adventure Webinars by Nicki Woodard – the original Waldorf-Astoria on Feb 4th and Waldorf-Astoria NY on Feb 11th. Only $10 each, live presentation with access for a week later. Information can also be located in the News & Events section of https://asthemoneyburns.com as well as at www.nyadventureclub.com.

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    Archival Music provided by Past Perfect Vintage Music, www.pastperfect.com.
    Opening Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands
    Section 1 Music: Plain Mary Jane by Mrs. Jack Hylton, Album The Great British Dance Bands
    Section 2 Music: Ain’t She Sweet by Piccadilly Revels Band, Album Charleston – Great Stars Of the 20s
    Section 3 Music: Sweet Sixteen And Never Been Kissed by Blue Mountaineers, Albums The Great Dance Bands & Play Hits of the 30s
    End Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands


    Hottest On Record Jan 22, 2021
    Show notes

    As the heat wave continues to soar, so does the stock market. A new peak brings hope for an even better tomorrow and clouds judgement for the dangers ahead.

    The heat of Labor Day weekend causes many to flee the city only to cause traffic jams upon return. But it’s the heat on Wall Street that really has everyone excited. The ever ambitious Nanaline Duke invests heavily with stockbroker Bill Wright. To celebrate the summer’s profits, Bill whisks his wife & opera singer Cobina Wright off to Paris.

    Other people and subjects include: September 1929 heatwave, stock market record peak, investing craze, zeppelins, early television set, early economic depression warnings, Ivar Krueger, Charles Ponzi, investment scams, lottery dreams, Savings and Loans real estate scam, and Arthur Andersen fraud, American Greed, and family business scam.

    Extra Notes / Call to Action:
    Upcoming New York Adventure Webinars by Nicki Woodard – the original Waldorf-Astoria on Feb 4th and Waldorf-Astoria NY on Feb 11th. Only $10 each, live presentation with access for a week later. Information can also be located in the News & Events section of https://asthemoneyburns.com as well as at www.nyadventureclub.com.

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    Archival Music provided by Past Perfect Vintage Music, www.pastperfect.com.
    Opening Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands
    Section 1 Music: Button Up Your Overcoat by Jack Hylton, Album Fascinating Rhythm – Great Hits of the 20s
    Section 2 Music: Just As Long As The World Goes Round And Around by Jay Wilbur, Album The Great British Dance Bands
    Section 3 Music: I Guess I Will Have To Change My Plan by Ambrose & His Orchestra, Album The Great British Dance Bands
    End Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands


    Rising Tides Jan 08, 2021
    Show notes

    The summer is ending, but there’s one last activity before everyone heads off for the fall. This one requires shovels and buckets, no fancy dresses nor jewels needed.

    After all the glitz and glamour, it’s time to get a little dirty.

    Over a hot Labor Day weekend, the preferred activity is crabbing. Amongst the waves and rocks, Louise Van Alen worries about her secret romance with Prince Alexis Mdivani, and her concerns are valid when looking at older couple Grace Wilson Vanderbilt and her husband Neily Vanderbilt. Doris Duke with Jimmy Cromwell and Barbara Hutton with Frank Shields have various success with their buckets, hinting at their own situations.

    Other people and subjects include: Cobina Wright, Bill Wright, Lil Cobina Wright Jr, Alice Vanderbilt, forbidden love, RT Wilson, Gertrude Vanderbilt Whitney, Austrian Prince Henry, Gloria Vanderbilt, and crabs in a bucket mentality.

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    Archival Music provided by Past Perfect Vintage Music, www.pastperfect.com.
    Opening Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands
    Section 1 Music: Red Sails In The Sunset by Casani Club Orchestra, Album The Great Dance Bands Play Hits of the 30s
    Section 2 Music: Stars Fell On Alabama by Lew Stone, Album The Great British Dance Bands
    Section 3 Music: Sunshine by Jack Hylton, Album Fascinating Rhythm – Great Hits of the 20s
    End Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands


    Belle Of The Ball Dec 24, 2020
    Show notes

    After a small dinner party of nearly 50, the real attraction of a debutante’s coming out is an elaborate dance with a few more hundred attending.

    The whirl of partners and romantic intrigue is only beginning.

    Reigning It Girl Louise Van Alen finally has her debutante ball. It’s a fairy tale night especially with her royal escort and secret lover Prince Alexis Mdivani. Barbara Hutton and Doris Duke both scored last minute invites but nearly ruin the night. Will there be a happily ever after?

    Other people and subjects include: Daisy Van Alen, Henry Van Alen, Sam Van Alen, William Vanderbilt, Nanaline Duke, Franklyn Hutton, Irene Hutton, Jakey Astor, Huntington Hartford, Frank Shields, Cobina Wright, Bill Wright, debutante ball traditions, international debutante balls (Australia, Vienna, Harlem, Georgia, Latin quinceanera), King George III & Queen Charlotte , Queen Victoria, Prince of Wales plume, white dresses & gloves, stag lines, pop culture debutantes (Gossip Girl, Sandra Dee, the O.C., Gilmore Girls, Law & Order SVU, CSI: NY, Cold Case), popular actual debutantes, and fairy tale illusions of happily ever afters.

    Extra Notes / Call to Action:
    The Eff Your Fears podcast by Ashley Menard https://www.effyourfears.com/
    I’m Kind of a Big Deal by Christophe Zajak-Denek https://pod.link/1484411273
    Armchair Historians by Anne-Marie Cannon www.armchairhistorians.com

    New York Adventure Club www.nyadventureclub.com

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    Archival Music provided by Past Perfect Vintage Music, www.pastperfect.com.
    Opening Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands
    Section 1 Music: I Guess I Will Have To Change My Plan by Ambrose & His Orchestra, Album The Great British Dance Bands
    Section 2 Music: In the Mood for Love by Freddy Gardner, Album Elegance
    Section 3 Music: If This Is Only The Beginning by Billy Ternent, Album Elegance
    End Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands


    Dinner Is Served Dec 10, 2020
    Show notes

    A debutante’s coming out is a never ending list of nonstop activities. Before the big dance, dinner is served for the most exclusive guests.

    Wanna see what the fuss is all about?

    Henry Van Alen officially presents his sister Louise Van Alen as debutante at a private dinner at Wakehurst before the big ball. Finally invited to the dance only, Doris Duke and Barbara Hutton rush to get ready for the big event. Louise’s secret relationship with Prince Alexis Mdivani seems to follow a long Astor and Van Alen history of complicated romances.

    Other people and subjects include: Doris Duke, Barbara Hutton, Daisy Van Alen, Sam Van Alen, Frank Shields, Irene Hutton, governess Ticki, Newport cottage Wakehurst, Caroline Astor, unapproved marital alliances, Emily Astor, Prohibition, Prince Serge Obolensky, Ava Alice Astor, International Debutante Ball, Waldorf Astoria NY, Vera Wang, and recent debutantes Princesses Obolensky.

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    Archival Music provided by Past Perfect Vintage Music, www.pastperfect.com.
    Opening Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands
    Section 1 Music: One In A Million by Brian Lawrance, Album The Great British Dance Bands
    Section 2 Music: The Girl Friend by Savoy Orpheans, Album Charleston – Great Stars Of The 1920s
    Section 3 Music: Just As Long As The World Goes Round And Around by Jay Wilbur, Album The Great British Dance Bands
    End Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands


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